Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-10-02 Thread Douglas Ferguson
Added this field and notice that it writes additional params to the  
url for pagemap.

Preliminary testing indicated that the page map url parameter doesn't  
have to exist.

Are there any concerns with using this option?

Douglas

On Oct 1, 2009, at 7:14 PM, Douglas Ferguson wrote:

 What are the implications of turning this one?

 D/


 On Sep 30, 2009, at 1:23 AM, Igor Vaynberg wrote:

 the javadoc in the later versions mentions that it is enabled by
 default, however if you are using the default secondlevel caching  
 page
 store it will be disabled...

 -igor

 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Carlo Camerino
 carlo.camer...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,

 actually i'm able to make it work some how using this setting

 getPageSettings().setAutomaticMultiWindowSupport(true);

 it creates a new page map everytime i open a page in a new tab or
 new window.
 however in the wicket documentation it says that it is enabled by
 default. but upon checking it seems that it is not enabled by  
 default
 that's why i'm confused.

 any recommendations regarding this?

 i can now check the page map name for each page and throw a redirect
 if a new page map is encountered other than the default.

 carlo

 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Phil Housley undeconstruc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 2009/9/29 Carlo Camerino carlo.camer...@gmail.com:
 Hi everyone,

 We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to
 copy
 paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
 browser. For example in a different tab or in a new window. This
 can
 easily be done in Wicket Framework since the url has a
 corresponding
 page attached to it. For example if i get
 http://localhost/wicket:interface=1 appearing in the address  
 bar, I
 can open anew tab paste the url and I could get into the same  
 page.
 The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such
 a way
 that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to
 copy and
 paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
 after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
 one.


 I've been playing with the ideas from
 http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/2008/10/wicket-extreme-consistent-urls.html
 for something of my own, which might fit the bill in a way.
 Following
 that you can convince wicket to serve up every instance of a  
 mounted
 page from exactly the same URL.  That means if you copy the url,  
 you
 get a brand new instance of the page.  You lose the ability to
 refresh, but if you are being strict on that sort of thing, I guess
 you will have a refresh button on the page when and only when it is
 appropriate.

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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-10-02 Thread Douglas Ferguson
Are there no pros and cons of using this?


On Oct 2, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Douglas Ferguson wrote:

 Added this field and notice that it writes additional params to the
 url for pagemap.

 Preliminary testing indicated that the page map url parameter doesn't
 have to exist.

 Are there any concerns with using this option?

 Douglas

 On Oct 1, 2009, at 7:14 PM, Douglas Ferguson wrote:

 What are the implications of turning this one?

 D/


 On Sep 30, 2009, at 1:23 AM, Igor Vaynberg wrote:

 the javadoc in the later versions mentions that it is enabled by
 default, however if you are using the default secondlevel caching
 page
 store it will be disabled...

 -igor

 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Carlo Camerino
 carlo.camer...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,

 actually i'm able to make it work some how using this setting

 getPageSettings().setAutomaticMultiWindowSupport(true);

 it creates a new page map everytime i open a page in a new tab or
 new window.
 however in the wicket documentation it says that it is enabled by
 default. but upon checking it seems that it is not enabled by
 default
 that's why i'm confused.

 any recommendations regarding this?

 i can now check the page map name for each page and throw a  
 redirect
 if a new page map is encountered other than the default.

 carlo

 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Phil Housley undeconstruc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 2009/9/29 Carlo Camerino carlo.camer...@gmail.com:
 Hi everyone,

 We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to
 copy
 paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
 browser. For example in a different tab or in a new window. This
 can
 easily be done in Wicket Framework since the url has a
 corresponding
 page attached to it. For example if i get
 http://localhost/wicket:interface=1 appearing in the address
 bar, I
 can open anew tab paste the url and I could get into the same
 page.
 The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such
 a way
 that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to
 copy and
 paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
 after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
 one.


 I've been playing with the ideas from
 http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/2008/10/wicket-extreme-consistent-urls.html
 for something of my own, which might fit the bill in a way.
 Following
 that you can convince wicket to serve up every instance of a
 mounted
 page from exactly the same URL.  That means if you copy the url,
 you
 get a brand new instance of the page.  You lose the ability to
 refresh, but if you are being strict on that sort of thing, I  
 guess
 you will have a refresh button on the page when and only when it  
 is
 appropriate.

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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-10-01 Thread Douglas Ferguson
What are the implications of turning this one?

D/


On Sep 30, 2009, at 1:23 AM, Igor Vaynberg wrote:

 the javadoc in the later versions mentions that it is enabled by
 default, however if you are using the default secondlevel caching page
 store it will be disabled...

 -igor

 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Carlo Camerino
 carlo.camer...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,

 actually i'm able to make it work some how using this setting

 getPageSettings().setAutomaticMultiWindowSupport(true);

 it creates a new page map everytime i open a page in a new tab or  
 new window.
 however in the wicket documentation it says that it is enabled by
 default. but upon checking it seems that it is not enabled by default
 that's why i'm confused.

 any recommendations regarding this?

 i can now check the page map name for each page and throw a redirect
 if a new page map is encountered other than the default.

 carlo

 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Phil Housley undeconstruc...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 2009/9/29 Carlo Camerino carlo.camer...@gmail.com:
 Hi everyone,

 We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to  
 copy
 paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
 browser. For example in a different tab or in a new window. This  
 can
 easily be done in Wicket Framework since the url has a  
 corresponding
 page attached to it. For example if i get
 http://localhost/wicket:interface=1 appearing in the address bar, I
 can open anew tab paste the url and I could get into the same page.
 The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such  
 a way
 that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to  
 copy and
 paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
 after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
 one.


 I've been playing with the ideas from
 http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/2008/10/wicket-extreme-consistent-urls.html
 for something of my own, which might fit the bill in a way.   
 Following
 that you can convince wicket to serve up every instance of a mounted
 page from exactly the same URL.  That means if you copy the url, you
 get a brand new instance of the page.  You lose the ability to
 refresh, but if you are being strict on that sort of thing, I guess
 you will have a refresh button on the page when and only when it is
 appropriate.

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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-09-30 Thread Carlo Camerino
hi,

actually i'm able to make it work some how using this setting

getPageSettings().setAutomaticMultiWindowSupport(true);

it creates a new page map everytime i open a page in a new tab or new window.
however in the wicket documentation it says that it is enabled by
default. but upon checking it seems that it is not enabled by default
that's why i'm confused.

any recommendations regarding this?

i can now check the page map name for each page and throw a redirect
if a new page map is encountered other than the default.

carlo

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Phil Housley undeconstruc...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/9/29 Carlo Camerino carlo.camer...@gmail.com:
 Hi everyone,

 We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
 paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
 browser. For example in a different tab or in a new window. This can
 easily be done in Wicket Framework since the url has a corresponding
 page attached to it. For example if i get
 http://localhost/wicket:interface=1 appearing in the address bar, I
 can open anew tab paste the url and I could get into the same page.
 The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such a way
 that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to copy and
 paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
 after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
 one.


 I've been playing with the ideas from
 http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/2008/10/wicket-extreme-consistent-urls.html
 for something of my own, which might fit the bill in a way.  Following
 that you can convince wicket to serve up every instance of a mounted
 page from exactly the same URL.  That means if you copy the url, you
 get a brand new instance of the page.  You lose the ability to
 refresh, but if you are being strict on that sort of thing, I guess
 you will have a refresh button on the page when and only when it is
 appropriate.

 --
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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-09-30 Thread Igor Vaynberg
the javadoc in the later versions mentions that it is enabled by
default, however if you are using the default secondlevel caching page
store it will be disabled...

-igor

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Carlo Camerino
carlo.camer...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,

 actually i'm able to make it work some how using this setting

 getPageSettings().setAutomaticMultiWindowSupport(true);

 it creates a new page map everytime i open a page in a new tab or new window.
 however in the wicket documentation it says that it is enabled by
 default. but upon checking it seems that it is not enabled by default
 that's why i'm confused.

 any recommendations regarding this?

 i can now check the page map name for each page and throw a redirect
 if a new page map is encountered other than the default.

 carlo

 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Phil Housley undeconstruc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 2009/9/29 Carlo Camerino carlo.camer...@gmail.com:
 Hi everyone,

 We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
 paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
 browser. For example in a different tab or in a new window. This can
 easily be done in Wicket Framework since the url has a corresponding
 page attached to it. For example if i get
 http://localhost/wicket:interface=1 appearing in the address bar, I
 can open anew tab paste the url and I could get into the same page.
 The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such a way
 that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to copy and
 paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
 after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
 one.


 I've been playing with the ideas from
 http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/2008/10/wicket-extreme-consistent-urls.html
 for something of my own, which might fit the bill in a way.  Following
 that you can convince wicket to serve up every instance of a mounted
 page from exactly the same URL.  That means if you copy the url, you
 get a brand new instance of the page.  You lose the ability to
 refresh, but if you are being strict on that sort of thing, I guess
 you will have a refresh button on the page when and only when it is
 appropriate.

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Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-09-29 Thread Carlo Camerino
Hi everyone,

We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
browser. For example in a different tab or in a new window. This can
easily be done in Wicket Framework since the url has a corresponding
page attached to it. For example if i get
http://localhost/wicket:interface=1 appearing in the address bar, I
can open anew tab paste the url and I could get into the same page.
The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such a way
that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to copy and
paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
one.

Thanks

Carlo

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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-09-29 Thread Pedro Santos
We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
browser.
Crazy thing. How about to include an request counter to your url
encode/decode strategy?


On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Carlo Camerino carlo.camer...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi everyone,

 We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
 paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
 browser. For example in a different tab or in a new window. This can
 easily be done in Wicket Framework since the url has a corresponding
 page attached to it. For example if i get
 http://localhost/wicket:interface=1 appearing in the address bar, I
 can open anew tab paste the url and I could get into the same page.
 The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such a way
 that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to copy and
 paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
 after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
 one.

 Thanks

 Carlo

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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-09-29 Thread Matej Knopp
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Pedro Santos pedros...@gmail.com wrote:
 We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
 paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
 browser.
 Crazy thing. How about to include an request counter to your url
 encode/decode strategy?

That wouldn't work. Or it would prevent refresh as well. This is not
really doable. If you need this kind of control web applications
simply aren't what you should be doing.

-Matej



 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Carlo Camerino 
 carlo.camer...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi everyone,

 We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
 paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
 browser. For example in a different tab or in a new window. This can
 easily be done in Wicket Framework since the url has a corresponding
 page attached to it. For example if i get
 http://localhost/wicket:interface=1 appearing in the address bar, I
 can open anew tab paste the url and I could get into the same page.
 The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such a way
 that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to copy and
 paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
 after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
 one.

 Thanks

 Carlo

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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-09-29 Thread nino martinez wael
could'nt he just have a page map with a size of 0? Of course reloads
would'nt work and probably a bunch of other stuff too.. Seems like at
strange thing to limit on though.

2009/9/29 Matej Knopp matej.kn...@gmail.com

 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Pedro Santos pedros...@gmail.com wrote:
  We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
  paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
  browser.
  Crazy thing. How about to include an request counter to your url
  encode/decode strategy?

 That wouldn't work. Or it would prevent refresh as well. This is not
 really doable. If you need this kind of control web applications
 simply aren't what you should be doing.

 -Matej

 
 
  On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Carlo Camerino 
 carlo.camer...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
  paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
  browser. For example in a different tab or in a new window. This can
  easily be done in Wicket Framework since the url has a corresponding
  page attached to it. For example if i get
  http://localhost/wicket:interface=1 appearing in the address bar, I
  can open anew tab paste the url and I could get into the same page.
  The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such a way
  that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to copy and
  paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
  after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
  one.
 
  Thanks
 
  Carlo
 
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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-09-29 Thread Carlo Camerino
ya it's sort of our requirement i don't think i would set my pagemap to 0.

i'm thinking of a control i could use in order to determine that this
page is accessed. i'm thinking of the best way to do it though.
i could maybe include a hidden field in each of my form that i have to
check each time and check each request.
i don't know if this is possible.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:29 AM, nino martinez wael
nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 could'nt he just have a page map with a size of 0? Of course reloads
 would'nt work and probably a bunch of other stuff too.. Seems like at
 strange thing to limit on though.

 2009/9/29 Matej Knopp matej.kn...@gmail.com

 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Pedro Santos pedros...@gmail.com wrote:
  We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
  paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
  browser.
  Crazy thing. How about to include an request counter to your url
  encode/decode strategy?

 That wouldn't work. Or it would prevent refresh as well. This is not
 really doable. If you need this kind of control web applications
 simply aren't what you should be doing.

 -Matej

 
 
  On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Carlo Camerino 
 carlo.camer...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
  paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
  browser. For example in a different tab or in a new window. This can
  easily be done in Wicket Framework since the url has a corresponding
  page attached to it. For example if i get
  http://localhost/wicket:interface=1 appearing in the address bar, I
  can open anew tab paste the url and I could get into the same page.
  The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such a way
  that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to copy and
  paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
  after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
  one.
 
  Thanks
 
  Carlo
 
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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-09-29 Thread Clint Checketts
I'm guessing they are trying to limit users from taking a test in one window
and seeing the previous answers in another.

-Clint

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:29 PM, nino martinez wael 
nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 could'nt he just have a page map with a size of 0? Of course reloads
 would'nt work and probably a bunch of other stuff too.. Seems like at
 strange thing to limit on though.

 2009/9/29 Matej Knopp matej.kn...@gmail.com

  On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Pedro Santos pedros...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
   paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
   browser.
   Crazy thing. How about to include an request counter to your url
   encode/decode strategy?
 
  That wouldn't work. Or it would prevent refresh as well. This is not
  really doable. If you need this kind of control web applications
  simply aren't what you should be doing.
 
  -Matej
 
  
  
   On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Carlo Camerino 
  carlo.camer...@gmail.comwrote:
  
   Hi everyone,
  
   We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
   paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
   browser. For example in a different tab or in a new window. This can
   easily be done in Wicket Framework since the url has a corresponding
   page attached to it. For example if i get
   http://localhost/wicket:interface=1 appearing in the address bar, I
   can open anew tab paste the url and I could get into the same page.
   The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such a way
   that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to copy
 and
   paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
   after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
   one.
  
   Thanks
  
   Carlo
  
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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-09-29 Thread nino martinez wael
Ahh good example for usage :)

2009/9/29 Clint Checketts checke...@gmail.com

 I'm guessing they are trying to limit users from taking a test in one
 window
 and seeing the previous answers in another.

 -Clint

 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:29 PM, nino martinez wael 
 nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com wrote:

  could'nt he just have a page map with a size of 0? Of course reloads
  would'nt work and probably a bunch of other stuff too.. Seems like at
  strange thing to limit on though.
 
  2009/9/29 Matej Knopp matej.kn...@gmail.com
 
   On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Pedro Santos pedros...@gmail.com
  wrote:
We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to
 copy
paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
browser.
Crazy thing. How about to include an request counter to your url
encode/decode strategy?
  
   That wouldn't work. Or it would prevent refresh as well. This is not
   really doable. If you need this kind of control web applications
   simply aren't what you should be doing.
  
   -Matej
  
   
   
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Carlo Camerino 
   carlo.camer...@gmail.comwrote:
   
Hi everyone,
   
We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to
 copy
paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
browser. For example in a different tab or in a new window. This can
easily be done in Wicket Framework since the url has a corresponding
page attached to it. For example if i get
http://localhost/wicket:interface=1 appearing in the address bar, I
can open anew tab paste the url and I could get into the same page.
The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such a
 way
that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to copy
  and
paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
one.
   
Thanks
   
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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-09-29 Thread nino martinez wael
Okay in that case you should be able to use some of the stuff that are used
in apps that are supposed be *cross*-*site* request *forgery proof*, search
the list for that.

2009/9/29 Carlo Camerino carlo.camer...@gmail.com

 ya it's sort of our requirement i don't think i would set my pagemap to
 0.

 i'm thinking of a control i could use in order to determine that this
 page is accessed. i'm thinking of the best way to do it though.
 i could maybe include a hidden field in each of my form that i have to
 check each time and check each request.
 i don't know if this is possible.

 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:29 AM, nino martinez wael
 nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com wrote:
  could'nt he just have a page map with a size of 0? Of course reloads
  would'nt work and probably a bunch of other stuff too.. Seems like at
  strange thing to limit on though.
 
  2009/9/29 Matej Knopp matej.kn...@gmail.com
 
  On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Pedro Santos pedros...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
   paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
   browser.
   Crazy thing. How about to include an request counter to your url
   encode/decode strategy?
 
  That wouldn't work. Or it would prevent refresh as well. This is not
  really doable. If you need this kind of control web applications
  simply aren't what you should be doing.
 
  -Matej
 
  
  
   On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Carlo Camerino 
  carlo.camer...@gmail.comwrote:
  
   Hi everyone,
  
   We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to
 copy
   paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
   browser. For example in a different tab or in a new window. This can
   easily be done in Wicket Framework since the url has a corresponding
   page attached to it. For example if i get
   http://localhost/wicket:interface=1 appearing in the address bar, I
   can open anew tab paste the url and I could get into the same page.
   The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such a
 way
   that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to copy
 and
   paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
   after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
   one.
  
   Thanks
  
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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-09-29 Thread Matej Knopp
Your options here are rather limited. Wicket or not, it is still a web
application. HTTP is a stateless protocol. There are ways/hacks to
detect opening page in new window/tab but they require javascript and
are not 100% bullet proof. If you need real solution for this forget
about web applications. Do it as java applet or flash or silverlight
or something similar.

-Matej

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Carlo Camerino
carlo.camer...@gmail.com wrote:
 ya it's sort of our requirement i don't think i would set my pagemap to 0.

 i'm thinking of a control i could use in order to determine that this
 page is accessed. i'm thinking of the best way to do it though.
 i could maybe include a hidden field in each of my form that i have to
 check each time and check each request.
 i don't know if this is possible.

 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:29 AM, nino martinez wael
 nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 could'nt he just have a page map with a size of 0? Of course reloads
 would'nt work and probably a bunch of other stuff too.. Seems like at
 strange thing to limit on though.

 2009/9/29 Matej Knopp matej.kn...@gmail.com

 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Pedro Santos pedros...@gmail.com wrote:
  We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
  paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
  browser.
  Crazy thing. How about to include an request counter to your url
  encode/decode strategy?

 That wouldn't work. Or it would prevent refresh as well. This is not
 really doable. If you need this kind of control web applications
 simply aren't what you should be doing.

 -Matej

 
 
  On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Carlo Camerino 
 carlo.camer...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
  paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
  browser. For example in a different tab or in a new window. This can
  easily be done in Wicket Framework since the url has a corresponding
  page attached to it. For example if i get
  http://localhost/wicket:interface=1 appearing in the address bar, I
  can open anew tab paste the url and I could get into the same page.
  The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such a way
  that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to copy and
  paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
  after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
  one.
 
  Thanks
 
  Carlo
 
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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-09-29 Thread Andreas Petersson
I am not aware that Wicket has direct support for this kind of 
(mis-)behavior.
You can, however employ some kind of cheating here. if you set the http 
headers to no-cache with the help of a servlet filter, the browser will 
not allow the page to be copy-pasted from local cache, and will 
re-request the page. if you include a (crypted) counter as one of the 
page parameters, you can easily check if this page was already served 
(if the counter is lower or equal than the last served url) and redirect 
to an error page accordingly.


to fully disable the browser-cache use:
response.addHeader(“Pragma”, “no-cache”);
response.addHeader(“Cache-Control”, “no-cache”);
response.addHeader(“Cache-Control”, “must-revalidate”);
response.addHeader(“Expires”, “Mon, 8 Aug 2006 10:00:00 GMT”); // some 
date in the past


BR
Andreas

The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such a way
that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to copy and
paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-09-29 Thread Matej Knopp
What happens if the user (perhaps accidentally) refreshes page?

-Matej

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Andreas Petersson
andr...@petersson.at wrote:
 I am not aware that Wicket has direct support for this kind of
 (mis-)behavior.
 You can, however employ some kind of cheating here. if you set the http
 headers to no-cache with the help of a servlet filter, the browser will not
 allow the page to be copy-pasted from local cache, and will re-request the
 page. if you include a (crypted) counter as one of the page parameters, you
 can easily check if this page was already served (if the counter is lower or
 equal than the last served url) and redirect to an error page accordingly.

 to fully disable the browser-cache use:
 response.addHeader(“Pragma”, “no-cache”);
 response.addHeader(“Cache-Control”, “no-cache”);
 response.addHeader(“Cache-Control”, “must-revalidate”);
 response.addHeader(“Expires”, “Mon, 8 Aug 2006 10:00:00 GMT”); // some date
 in the past

 BR
 Andreas

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 paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-09-29 Thread Andreas Petersson

Matej Knopp schrieb:

What happens if the user (perhaps accidentally) refreshes page?

-Matej
he would get an error page using the described approach. clearly not 
what you would want in a general-purpose web app.

BR
Andreas

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Re: Preventing Copy Pasting URL's In Same Browser Session

2009-09-29 Thread Phil Housley
2009/9/29 Carlo Camerino carlo.camer...@gmail.com:
 Hi everyone,

 We have this requirement in which we cannot allow the customer to copy
 paste the url that's appearing in the address bar into the same
 browser. For example in a different tab or in a new window. This can
 easily be done in Wicket Framework since the url has a corresponding
 page attached to it. For example if i get
 http://localhost/wicket:interface=1 appearing in the address bar, I
 can open anew tab paste the url and I could get into the same page.
 The users don't want this behavior. Could I make it work in such a way
 that I copy http://localhost/wicket:inteface=1, when i try to copy and
 paste it, it will redirect me to an error page? This happens even
 after the user has already logged in. Really need help on this
 one.


I've been playing with the ideas from
http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/2008/10/wicket-extreme-consistent-urls.html
for something of my own, which might fit the bill in a way.  Following
that you can convince wicket to serve up every instance of a mounted
page from exactly the same URL.  That means if you copy the url, you
get a brand new instance of the page.  You lose the ability to
refresh, but if you are being strict on that sort of thing, I guess
you will have a refresh button on the page when and only when it is
appropriate.

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