Re: Wicket with GWT

2008-11-13 Thread Johan Compagner
Personally i dont see an integration at all between GWT an Wicket.
Both are ui techs that do things completely different.

Give us an example how  you see flow (setResponsePage()) in wicket and
what GWT then should do

On 11/13/08, nitingupta183 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am working on a web application which makes use of GWT. I have not used
 GWT RPC majorly. We have made use of the JSON feeds and have used GWT just
 as a front end technology with almost no say in how we are transporting data
 between browser and the server.

 Now we are growing the application and more and more modules have to be
 added. There are now clear requirements which has forced us to think of
 using another web development framework. Got to know about Wicket and I am
 really impressed by seeing some presentations.

 My Question:

 Can I make use of Wicket and GWt together?

 The need to do is : Use of GWT ( GWT-Ext) widgets  use of Wicket to manage
 flow, sessions etc.

 Transport: So far we have relied on the JSON feeds. I think it will continue
 in the future as well. Newer data transports can be developed using forms in
 Wicket. I.e. a combination of these two is going to be there for a
 foreseeable future.

 Suggestions/Links/References are heartedly welcome.

 Regards,
 Nitin
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Re: Wicket with GWT

2008-11-13 Thread nitingupta183

By integration I meant that if I can make use of the server side features of
the Wicket  integrate the widgets of GWT just like someone would integrate
YUI with Wicket pages.

Both technologies are great. Just thinking of a possible marriage for a
faster, better app. Any issues seen in this?

By the way I know wicket only from the surface as of now.

Regards,
Nitin


Johan Compagner wrote:
 
 Personally i dont see an integration at all between GWT an Wicket.
 Both are ui techs that do things completely different.
 
 Give us an example how  you see flow (setResponsePage()) in wicket and
 what GWT then should do
 
 On 11/13/08, nitingupta183 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am working on a web application which makes use of GWT. I have not used
 GWT RPC majorly. We have made use of the JSON feeds and have used GWT
 just
 as a front end technology with almost no say in how we are transporting
 data
 between browser and the server.

 Now we are growing the application and more and more modules have to be
 added. There are now clear requirements which has forced us to think of
 using another web development framework. Got to know about Wicket and I
 am
 really impressed by seeing some presentations.

 My Question:

 Can I make use of Wicket and GWt together?

 The need to do is : Use of GWT ( GWT-Ext) widgets  use of Wicket to
 manage
 flow, sessions etc.

 Transport: So far we have relied on the JSON feeds. I think it will
 continue
 in the future as well. Newer data transports can be developed using forms
 in
 Wicket. I.e. a combination of these two is going to be there for a
 foreseeable future.

 Suggestions/Links/References are heartedly welcome.

 Regards,
 Nitin
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Re: Wicket with GWT

2008-11-13 Thread jWeekend

Nitin, 

I have spoken to several GWT experts about this as the idea does at first
seem very attractive. Although it is technically feasible (with some
significant effort to make a _decent_ integration of the two frameworks), we
have never managed to come up with a compelling use-case that would make it
worthwhile. Can you give a concrete example of an application/use-case where
we would benefit from this.

Regards - Cemal
http://www.jWeekend.co.uk http://jWeekend.co.uk 
OO, Wicket, JPA, Java, Swing, Spring training, consulting and devolpment



nitingupta183 wrote:
 
 By integration I meant that if I can make use of the server side features
 of the Wicket  integrate the widgets of GWT just like someone would
 integrate YUI with Wicket pages.
 
 Both technologies are great. Just thinking of a possible marriage for a
 faster, better app. Any issues seen in this?
 
 By the way I know wicket only from the surface as of now.
 
 Regards,
 Nitin
 
 
 Johan Compagner wrote:
 
 Personally i dont see an integration at all between GWT an Wicket.
 Both are ui techs that do things completely different.
 
 Give us an example how  you see flow (setResponsePage()) in wicket and
 what GWT then should do
 
 On 11/13/08, nitingupta183 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am working on a web application which makes use of GWT. I have not
 used
 GWT RPC majorly. We have made use of the JSON feeds and have used GWT
 just
 as a front end technology with almost no say in how we are transporting
 data
 between browser and the server.

 Now we are growing the application and more and more modules have to be
 added. There are now clear requirements which has forced us to think of
 using another web development framework. Got to know about Wicket and I
 am
 really impressed by seeing some presentations.

 My Question:

 Can I make use of Wicket and GWt together?

 The need to do is : Use of GWT ( GWT-Ext) widgets  use of Wicket to
 manage
 flow, sessions etc.

 Transport: So far we have relied on the JSON feeds. I think it will
 continue
 in the future as well. Newer data transports can be developed using
 forms in
 Wicket. I.e. a combination of these two is going to be there for a
 foreseeable future.

 Suggestions/Links/References are heartedly welcome.

 Regards,
 Nitin
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RE: Wicket with GWT

2008-11-13 Thread Nitin Gupta
Hi Cemal,

I have following use cases in my mind:

I want to use Wicket for all the server side goodies like Session, web flow
etc. At the same time, I want to embed certain GWT or GWT-Ext widgets in the
Wicket pages because they are really cool and would take a considerable
effort for any developer to implement them in javascript.

I don't use or want to use RPC. We make use of our custom data feeds.

If the above combination can work then we can have a traditional multi-page
web application with each page having great looking widgets and animations.

What I want to achieve can also be achieved if I don't use Wicket. Wicket
usage is desired for the server side goodies that it can provide to
individual page.

Regards,
Nitin

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Nitin, 

I have spoken to several GWT experts about this as the idea does at first
seem very attractive. Although it is technically feasible (with some
significant effort to make a _decent_ integration of the two frameworks), we
have never managed to come up with a compelling use-case that would make it
worthwhile. Can you give a concrete example of an application/use-case where
we would benefit from this.

Regards - Cemal
http://www.jWeekend.co.uk http://jWeekend.co.uk 
OO, Wicket, JPA, Java, Swing, Spring training, consulting and devolpment



nitingupta183 wrote:
 
 By integration I meant that if I can make use of the server side features
 of the Wicket  integrate the widgets of GWT just like someone would
 integrate YUI with Wicket pages.
 
 Both technologies are great. Just thinking of a possible marriage for a
 faster, better app. Any issues seen in this?
 
 By the way I know wicket only from the surface as of now.
 
 Regards,
 Nitin
 
 
 Johan Compagner wrote:
 
 Personally i dont see an integration at all between GWT an Wicket.
 Both are ui techs that do things completely different.
 
 Give us an example how  you see flow (setResponsePage()) in wicket and
 what GWT then should do
 
 On 11/13/08, nitingupta183 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am working on a web application which makes use of GWT. I have not
 used
 GWT RPC majorly. We have made use of the JSON feeds and have used GWT
 just
 as a front end technology with almost no say in how we are transporting
 data
 between browser and the server.

 Now we are growing the application and more and more modules have to be
 added. There are now clear requirements which has forced us to think of
 using another web development framework. Got to know about Wicket and I
 am
 really impressed by seeing some presentations.

 My Question:

 Can I make use of Wicket and GWt together?

 The need to do is : Use of GWT ( GWT-Ext) widgets  use of Wicket to
 manage
 flow, sessions etc.

 Transport: So far we have relied on the JSON feeds. I think it will
 continue
 in the future as well. Newer data transports can be developed using
 forms in
 Wicket. I.e. a combination of these two is going to be there for a
 foreseeable future.

 Suggestions/Links/References are heartedly welcome.

 Regards,
 Nitin
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Re: Wicket with GWT

2008-11-13 Thread Ladislav Thon

 At the same time, I want to embed certain GWT or GWT-Ext widgets in the
 Wicket pages because they are really cool and would take a considerable
 effort for any developer to implement them in javascript.


Sounds like an idea I also had before: using GWT to create rich JavaScript
components embeddable in any kind of HTML page (be it static, Wicket
generated or whatever). Not really a Wicket question, but still.

One can think of using GWT to produce highly optimized JavaScript which
exports some API to plain JavaScript you write -- gwt-exporter
http://code.google.com/p/gwt-exporter/ might be useful to do this. Maybe it
is possible to create standard GWT application consisting only of your
library and a few lines of code to actually export the API (which should
prevent GWT compiler from optimizing your library out :-) ). Not tested
that, though.

Hope that helps.

LT


Re: Wicket with GWT

2008-11-13 Thread Richard Allen
If ExtJS essentially gives you what you want in the way of widgets, why not
look into integration of ExtJS and Wicket? In the near future, we will be
migrating our applications that use ExtJS to Wicket. There has already been
some work done in this area. See the following links.

ExtJS 2.2: http://code.google.com/p/wicket-ext/
ExtJS 2.0: http://www.wickettools.org/index.php/extjs-integration

-Richard


On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Ladislav Thon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  At the same time, I want to embed certain GWT or GWT-Ext widgets in the
  Wicket pages because they are really cool and would take a considerable
  effort for any developer to implement them in javascript.


 Sounds like an idea I also had before: using GWT to create rich JavaScript
 components embeddable in any kind of HTML page (be it static, Wicket
 generated or whatever). Not really a Wicket question, but still.

 One can think of using GWT to produce highly optimized JavaScript which
 exports some API to plain JavaScript you write -- gwt-exporter
 http://code.google.com/p/gwt-exporter/ might be useful to do this. Maybe
 it
 is possible to create standard GWT application consisting only of your
 library and a few lines of code to actually export the API (which should
 prevent GWT compiler from optimizing your library out :-) ). Not tested
 that, though.

 Hope that helps.

 LT



Re: Wicket with GWT

2008-11-13 Thread Richard Allen
Also, can you share what you get from Wicket that you don't get from GWT?
That would be useful for those who venture on this list considering GWT
versus Wicket.

Thanks,
Richard

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Richard Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 If ExtJS essentially gives you what you want in the way of widgets, why not
 look into integration of ExtJS and Wicket? In the near future, we will be
 migrating our applications that use ExtJS to Wicket. There has already been
 some work done in this area. See the following links.

 ExtJS 2.2: http://code.google.com/p/wicket-ext/
 ExtJS 2.0: http://www.wickettools.org/index.php/extjs-integration

 -Richard



 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Ladislav Thon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  At the same time, I want to embed certain GWT or GWT-Ext widgets in the
  Wicket pages because they are really cool and would take a considerable
  effort for any developer to implement them in javascript.


 Sounds like an idea I also had before: using GWT to create rich JavaScript
 components embeddable in any kind of HTML page (be it static, Wicket
 generated or whatever). Not really a Wicket question, but still.

 One can think of using GWT to produce highly optimized JavaScript which
 exports some API to plain JavaScript you write -- gwt-exporter
 http://code.google.com/p/gwt-exporter/ might be useful to do this. Maybe
 it
 is possible to create standard GWT application consisting only of your
 library and a few lines of code to actually export the API (which should
 prevent GWT compiler from optimizing your library out :-) ). Not tested
 that, though.

 Hope that helps.

 LT