Re: Using Eclipse Wicket for Modular Webapps

2009-02-09 Thread Richard Allen
That is very interesting. We have divided our web applications into
modules, which are essentially mini WARs that are merged in the build
process to make the final deployed WAR. This allows us to share these
modules among various web applications, which helps with code reuse and
maintainability. However, the build process and development cycle is
cumbersome, and the modules are not as decoupled as I would like them to
be; meaning they can't be dropped-in as easy as an Eclipse plugin.

I've been looking for a solution, and thought that Wicket plus OSGi would be
the way to go. Unfortunately, solving that problem is not at the top of my
priorities right now. I wonder what, if anything useful, Spring dm Server (
http://www.springsource.com/products/suite/dmserver) brings to the table in
trying to make this work.

Thank you for your contribution!

-Richard

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Thomas Mäder
thomas.mae...@devotek-it.chwrote:

 Hi Folks,

 I've been experimenting with getting the Eclipse plugin engine up inside a
 wicket application. The idea is to build Wicket applications out of
 plugins.
 You can find an article about my experiences (+sample code) here:
 http://devotek-it.ch/stuff.html
 I'm grateful for any feedback, both concerning the Eclipse/OSGI and the
 Wicket part.

 enjoy the weekend

 Thomas

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Re: Using Eclipse Wicket for Modular Webapps

2009-02-07 Thread Thomas Mäder
I don't know. What's the class loader model the Netbeans uses?

Thomas

 BTW, I'm trying to understand why I didn't have to deal with the
 IClassResolver for bookmarkable pages...





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Re: Using Eclipse Wicket for Modular Webapps

2009-02-07 Thread Fabrizio Giudici

Thomas Mäder wrote:

I don't know. What's the class loader model the Netbeans uses?
  
It should be similar to Eclipse, but I must confess my ignorance about 
Eclipse. I'm investigating about this detail, thanks to the stuff you 
pointed out in your interesting paper.

Thomas

 BTW, I'm trying to understand why I didn't have to deal with the
  

IClassResolver for bookmarkable pages...







  



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Using Eclipse Wicket for Modular Webapps

2009-02-06 Thread Thomas Mäder
Hi Folks,

I've been experimenting with getting the Eclipse plugin engine up inside a
wicket application. The idea is to build Wicket applications out of plugins.
You can find an article about my experiences (+sample code) here:
http://devotek-it.ch/stuff.html
I'm grateful for any feedback, both concerning the Eclipse/OSGI and the
Wicket part.

enjoy the weekend

Thomas

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Wicket  Eclipse Consulting
www.devotek-it.ch


Re: Using Eclipse Wicket for Modular Webapps

2009-02-06 Thread Thijs Vonk
Looks really interresting, I've read the pdf. but it seems that there is 
a part missing at the end...



On 2/6/09 6:02 PM, Thomas Mäder wrote:

Hi Folks,

I've been experimenting with getting the Eclipse plugin engine up inside a
wicket application. The idea is to build Wicket applications out of plugins.
You can find an article about my experiences (+sample code) here:
http://devotek-it.ch/stuff.html
I'm grateful for any feedback, both concerning the Eclipse/OSGI and the
Wicket part.

enjoy the weekend

Thomas

   



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Re: Using Eclipse Wicket for Modular Webapps

2009-02-06 Thread Thomas Mäder
Hi Thijs,

You are right, the last sentence is garbled. It really is the last sentence,
thought, so You didn't miss anything relevant, though. I'll fix it tomorrow
morning.

thanks for the find

Thomas

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Thijs Vonk vonk.th...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks really interresting, I've read the pdf. but it seems that there is a
 part missing at the end...


 On 2/6/09 6:02 PM, Thomas Mäder wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 I've been experimenting with getting the Eclipse plugin engine up inside a
 wicket application. The idea is to build Wicket applications out of
 plugins.
 You can find an article about my experiences (+sample code) here:
 http://devotek-it.ch/stuff.html
 I'm grateful for any feedback, both concerning the Eclipse/OSGI and the
 Wicket part.

 enjoy the weekend

 Thomas





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Re: Using Eclipse Wicket for Modular Webapps

2009-02-06 Thread Thomas Mäder
fixed.





 On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Thijs Vonk vonk.th...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks really interresting, I've read the pdf. but it seems that there is a
 part missing at the end...





Re: Using Eclipse Wicket for Modular Webapps

2009-02-06 Thread Fabrizio Giudici

The conclusion says:

But most important: it would be really interesting to actually build a 
real Wicket application
with Eclipse. Only real world experience can show whether itʻs worth the 
hassle in the end.


I think it's definitely possible. I'm running two customizations of a 
Wicket application based on the NetBeans Platform (I posted a few weeks 
ago a link about that: 
http://netbeans.dzone.com/articles/using-netbeans-platform-server) and 
so far everything works fine, in spite of the application being 
relatively complex. I was worried about some potential issues with the 
classloaders, which is a constant risk every time you deal with modular 
frameworks such as Eclipse Platform or NetBeans platform, but none 
manifested so far. BTW, I'm trying to understand why I didn't have to 
deal with the IClassResolver for bookmarkable pages...




Thijs Vonk wrote:
Looks really interresting, I've read the pdf. but it seems that there 
is a part missing at the end...



On 2/6/09 6:02 PM, Thomas Mäder wrote:

Hi Folks,

I've been experimenting with getting the Eclipse plugin engine up 
inside a
wicket application. The idea is to build Wicket applications out of 
plugins.

You can find an article about my experiences (+sample code) here:
http://devotek-it.ch/stuff.html
I'm grateful for any feedback, both concerning the Eclipse/OSGI and the
Wicket part.

enjoy the weekend

Thomas






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