Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal] Comparing XWiki to MediaWiki and Confluence on xwiki.org
Useful comparisons, but I wasn't sure who the expected reader would be. The XWiki vs Confluence comparison feels rather biased so wouldn't be very helpful to someone trying to make a rational decision. The table makes them seem identical (perhaps it would be useful to highlight the actual differences) aside from license. Both are listed as having a ticketing plugin, but last time I checked (admittedly over a year ago) I couldn't find a robust plugin anywhere close to Confluence's offerings. The extensions in XWiki really vary in quality, whereas Confluence has a lot of very polished plugins. That's at least been my experience, and I think there's a need to distinguish between high-quality maintained extensions vs. the more hacky ones. The lack of a markup editor in Confluence is a big difference. Might be worth illustrating further. I think the page hierarchy model is rather difference. Confluence makes chaining of child pages very easy, and access restrictions to child pages is simple to manage. XWiki was a bit clunky by comparison, but that was for 7.1 and maybe the addition of sub-spaces in more recent versions makes this easier to manage. The other big difference, to me, is in documentation. XWiki has changed a lot over the years, particularly in the API, and a lot of the material discoverable on the web is out of date. My perception is that Confluence's API has been more stable over successive releases and more effort has been invested in keeping documentation up to date. Much of this difference is just a natural outcome of the proprietary vs. open source backgrounds of each system. > -Original Message- > From: Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) [mailto:vali...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, 14 May 2016 1:05 AM > To: XWiki Mailinglist; XWiki Mailinglist > Subject: [xwiki-users] [Proposal] Comparing XWiki to MediaWiki and > Confluence on xwiki.org > > Hi, > > Since we had users asking on the IRC what are the differences between > XWiki and other solutions, it would be a good idea to provide such pages on > the > website: > > - XWiki and MediaWiki > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/XWiki-vs-MediaWiki > > - XWiki and Confluence > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/XWiki-vs-Confluence > > It would be great to know if you agree with the listed content and if you find > other similarities or distinctions between the above solutions. > > Additionally, what other solutions would you be interested in seeing > comparison with? > > Thanks, > Caty ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal] Comparing XWiki to MediaWiki and Confluence on xwiki.org
I notice under extras it indicates: Ticket system: plugin I looked around and searched the extensions but I couldn't find this feature. Am I missing something? Regards, Jesse > On May 13, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > wrote: > > Hi, > > Since we had users asking on the IRC what are the differences between XWiki > and other solutions, it would be a good idea to provide such pages on the > website: > > - XWiki and MediaWiki > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/XWiki-vs-MediaWiki > > - XWiki and Confluence > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/XWiki-vs-Confluence > > It would be great to know if you agree with the listed content and if you > find other similarities or distinctions between the above solutions. > > Additionally, what other solutions would you be interested in seeing > comparison with? > > Thanks, > Caty > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Comparing XWiki to MediaWiki and Confluence on xwiki.org
Any way to make it look better? Why are the features with a name before in each column? Also, the "Source: Wikimatrix" statement is not clearly attached to the section above it or below it. If there are extra softwares to aim at, would it make sense to add SharePoint, Office365 and Google Apps? Paul > > It would be great to know if you agree with the listed content and if you > find other similarities or distinctions between the above solutions. > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Deleting my wiki and starting fresh
Hi, > On 13 May 2016, at 22:16, A A wrote: > > I think I've made a mistake on my wiki. Since I don't have much content yet, > I'd like to delete my wiki and start a new one. However, there are some pages > that seem to not exist, yet exist in the sense that they don't show up on any > list, but redirect me to the home page when I access them rather than present > me with a screen for making a new page, so I can't make new pages under their > name. What would be the easiest way to restore my wiki to the state it was in > when I first installed XWiki? You delete your database and remove the permanent directory. You’ll get the Distribution Wizard that will show up. Hope it helps, -Vincent ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] Deleting my wiki and starting fresh
I think I've made a mistake on my wiki. Since I don't have much content yet, I'd like to delete my wiki and start a new one. However, there are some pages that seem to not exist, yet exist in the sense that they don't show up on any list, but redirect me to the home page when I access them rather than present me with a screen for making a new page, so I can't make new pages under their name. What would be the easiest way to restore my wiki to the state it was in when I first installed XWiki? ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] Overriding skin for a class sheet
Hello: I have an app within minutes that is a collection of procedures. I want the procedures to display differently than the rest of the wiki, specifically I want to override the title of the pages. So each page is named with a number like "QP-001"; there is also a field in the class called "title", which is the actual title of the procedure. By keeping the page name separate from the title, I can allow the user to change the title without changing the procedure number (which once created should never change). So What I want to do is combine the page name and title into one and display it as the page name, like "QP-001 Procedure of all things". How do I override the skin for any page that is displayed with the Class Sheet? is there a worked out example somewhere? I've been reading the wiki pages on overriding the skin, but I'm not sure how to apply it to my need. Dan -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Overriding-skin-for-a-class-sheet-tp7599436.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Comparing XWiki to MediaWiki and Confluence on xwiki.org
+1, they looks good On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > Hi, > > Since we had users asking on the IRC what are the differences between XWiki > and other solutions, it would be a good idea to provide such pages on the > website: > > - XWiki and MediaWiki > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/XWiki-vs-MediaWiki > > - XWiki and Confluence > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/XWiki-vs-Confluence > > It would be great to know if you agree with the listed content and if you > find other similarities or distinctions between the above solutions. > > Additionally, what other solutions would you be interested in seeing > comparison with? I think having Dokuwiki would be nice since it's often one of the first used wiki in Open Source. > > Thanks, > Caty > ___ > devs mailing list > d...@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs -- Thomas Mortagne ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Comparing XWiki to MediaWiki and Confluence on xwiki.org
Hi Caty, > On 13 May 2016, at 17:05, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > > Hi, > > Since we had users asking on the IRC what are the differences between XWiki > and other solutions, it would be a good idea to provide such pages on the > website: > > - XWiki and MediaWiki > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/XWiki-vs-MediaWiki > > - XWiki and Confluence > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/XWiki-vs-Confluence > > It would be great to know if you agree with the listed content and if you > find other similarities or distinctions between the above solutions. +1, I think those are 2 well know wiki solutions and it’s interesting to know how XWiki compares to them. FTR Gregory Gueneau had started something like this a very long time ago but we never finalised it: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/XWiki+competitors I haven’t fully read the 2 pages yet but form what I’ve seen so far, it looks of good quality. There are some little stuff to improve here and there but we can do that easily. > Additionally, what other solutions would you be interested in seeing > comparison with? I think it’s already good to start with. Thanks -Vincent > Thanks, > Caty ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [Proposal] Comparing XWiki to MediaWiki and Confluence on xwiki.org
Hi, Since we had users asking on the IRC what are the differences between XWiki and other solutions, it would be a good idea to provide such pages on the website: - XWiki and MediaWiki http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/XWiki-vs-MediaWiki - XWiki and Confluence http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/XWiki-vs-Confluence It would be great to know if you agree with the listed content and if you find other similarities or distinctions between the above solutions. Additionally, what other solutions would you be interested in seeing comparison with? Thanks, Caty ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] relation Code and Translation key's App-Within-Minutes
Renaming an app might be a bit tricky, as the generated code contains the name
of the space / classes / properties in quite a few places.
Maybe global search & replace over the exported pages might work. If there is
no much customizations recreating the App from scratch might be simpler.
Anyway, about the questions:
What the "$doc.displayPrettyName('date1', false, false)" does, it the following:
- take the property "date1" from the "current" class (the sheet picks what the
'current class' is a few lines above; it should be the data structure you have
defined)
- it looks up a translation key of the property name for the "current
language" (whatever the current user has as current language when viewing the
page)
the translation key is constructed as:
_
the Reference-to-class is the "full path" to the data structure, i.e
including the space where it is located.
- if it does not find such a key, it looks the content of the "pretty name"
field defined on the property itself in the class definition, as a fallback
- returns whatever is found for display
you can find out what else is available in the "Scripting Reference
Documentation"
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/API
(look up the $doc and scroll ...) ... but that is full reference, not a
tutorial ;)
The translations come from plain wiki pages with a special "marker object", see:
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Localization+Module#HRegisterawikitranslation
Finally the $escapetool.xml makes sure special HTML-characters like '"' and '&'
in the display title are properly escaped / encoded and do not break the layout.
(There used to be an $escapetool.html but that one the one escaped too much, on
the other hand did no escape single quotes due to a literal understanding of
the spec ... thus $escapetool.xml it is.)
Do not remove it, even if it seems to work for you now ... you never know what
translations etc might happen
This should all work without client side javascript involved.
Hth
Clemens
> Hi
>
> I'm struggling to understand the relationship between the code generated by
> App-With-Minutes for the Sheet and the Generated translation files;
> Especially if I want to rename application, page, class) (or copy it to
> another wiki)
>
> #set ($discard = $services.localization.use('document',
> 'WaihonaCode.qbgTranslations'))
> (% class="xform" %)
> (((
> ; for="WaihonaCode.qbgClass_0_date1">$escapetool.xml($doc.displayPrettyName('date1',
> false, false))
> : $doc.display('date1')
> ...
> )))
>
> The space WaihonaCode is where class, sheet and template are located
> 'date1' is the class attribute we need a translated text
>
> This is what is generated in the translation file:
> # Class fields
> WaihonaCode.qbgClass_date1=Date
>
> Since we do not see any $services.localization.render("date1") i'm uncertain
> how the key is created? (what logic is applied?)
> Why is there: $escapetool.xml($doc.displayPrettyName('date1', false, false))?
> Why escape tool?
> what is the function of the method displayPrettyName('date1', false, false))?
>
>
> Is there any client side functionality (JavaScript) required for this to work?
>
>
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