Re: [xwiki-users] Doing a File Exchange App

2011-01-26 Thread Scardino, Leonard R Jr ERDC-ITL-MS Contractor
Ok, so I've talked to my people, and a limit of 20 megabytes isn't going to
cut it.  Looks like users will be uploading how-to video's and PowerPoints
that will exceed 20 megabytes.

I'm going to start researching alternatives, but I thought I'd ask this group
if you had any suggestions on how to proceed.  It's looking to me like I'll
need another system, but I'm not certain what would be best.  Any
suggestions?

Lenny




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From: users-boun...@xwiki.org [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of
Sergiu Dumitriu
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 6:08 PM
To: XWiki Users
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Doing a File Exchange App

On 01/24/2011 11:10 PM, Scardino, Leonard R Jr ERDC-ITL-MS Contractor wrote:
 I'm being asked to do a File Exchange application in XWiki.  Basically 
 giving the users the ability to upload and download files for each 
 others use.  My first thought was to simply use different pages for 
 collections and have people use the built in file attachment stuff.  
 However, I'm being told that isn't intuitive enough, so I'm looking to 
 do some sort of FTP like thing where paths can be created and files 
 uploaded to those paths to be later downloaded by others.

 I guess my question is, does anyone know of an existing app that does 
 this, or am I going to have to create this myself?

You can use WebDAV to access the wiki.
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Features/WebDAV

You can do some custom UI on top of the basic attachment feature.

But note that the current attachment storage is not that memory efficient, so
it won't work well if the attachments are big. If you have attachments less
than 10-20 megabytes, that's OK, but bigger than that requires a different
approach. This will improve in the near future (3.0 / 3.1 hopefully).

Another alternative is to implement the file exchange using another system,
maybe even plain old FTP, and only provide an UI for it in XWiki. How exactly
this can be done depends on the service you want to use and what remote
access APIs it provides.

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Re: [xwiki-users] Doing a File Exchange App

2011-01-26 Thread Paul Libbrecht
When are you willing to release?
The file-system-storage would avoid the 20 Mb limit I think but it'll only be 
in beta or alpha at next release.

paul


Le 26 janv. 2011 à 20:22, Scardino, Leonard R Jr ERDC-ITL-MS Contractor a 
écrit :

 Ok, so I've talked to my people, and a limit of 20 megabytes isn't going to
 cut it.  Looks like users will be uploading how-to video's and PowerPoints
 that will exceed 20 megabytes.
 
 I'm going to start researching alternatives, but I thought I'd ask this group
 if you had any suggestions on how to proceed.  It's looking to me like I'll
 need another system, but I'm not certain what would be best.  Any
 suggestions?
 
 Lenny
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: users-boun...@xwiki.org [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of
 Sergiu Dumitriu
 Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 6:08 PM
 To: XWiki Users
 Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Doing a File Exchange App
 
 On 01/24/2011 11:10 PM, Scardino, Leonard R Jr ERDC-ITL-MS Contractor wrote:
 I'm being asked to do a File Exchange application in XWiki.  Basically 
 giving the users the ability to upload and download files for each 
 others use.  My first thought was to simply use different pages for 
 collections and have people use the built in file attachment stuff.  
 However, I'm being told that isn't intuitive enough, so I'm looking to 
 do some sort of FTP like thing where paths can be created and files 
 uploaded to those paths to be later downloaded by others.
 
 I guess my question is, does anyone know of an existing app that does 
 this, or am I going to have to create this myself?
 
 You can use WebDAV to access the wiki.
 http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Features/WebDAV
 
 You can do some custom UI on top of the basic attachment feature.
 
 But note that the current attachment storage is not that memory efficient, so
 it won't work well if the attachments are big. If you have attachments less
 than 10-20 megabytes, that's OK, but bigger than that requires a different
 approach. This will improve in the near future (3.0 / 3.1 hopefully).
 
 Another alternative is to implement the file exchange using another system,
 maybe even plain old FTP, and only provide an UI for it in XWiki. How exactly
 this can be done depends on the service you want to use and what remote
 access APIs it provides.
 
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Re: [xwiki-users] Doing a File Exchange App

2011-01-26 Thread Scardino, Leonard R Jr ERDC-ITL-MS Contractor
Unfortunately they want to demo the wiki pretty soon.  It would depend on how
long before the next release.  My guess is, I don't have time.

Lenny


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From: users-boun...@xwiki.org [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of
Paul Libbrecht
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:30 PM
To: XWiki Users
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Doing a File Exchange App

When are you willing to release?
The file-system-storage would avoid the 20 Mb limit I think but it'll only be
in beta or alpha at next release.

paul


Le 26 janv. 2011 à 20:22, Scardino, Leonard R Jr ERDC-ITL-MS Contractor a
écrit :

 Ok, so I've talked to my people, and a limit of 20 megabytes isn't 
 going to cut it.  Looks like users will be uploading how-to video's 
 and PowerPoints that will exceed 20 megabytes.
 
 I'm going to start researching alternatives, but I thought I'd ask 
 this group if you had any suggestions on how to proceed.  It's looking 
 to me like I'll need another system, but I'm not certain what would be 
 best.  Any suggestions?
 
 Lenny
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: users-boun...@xwiki.org [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On 
 Behalf Of Sergiu Dumitriu
 Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 6:08 PM
 To: XWiki Users
 Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Doing a File Exchange App
 
 On 01/24/2011 11:10 PM, Scardino, Leonard R Jr ERDC-ITL-MS Contractor
wrote:
 I'm being asked to do a File Exchange application in XWiki.  
 Basically giving the users the ability to upload and download files 
 for each others use.  My first thought was to simply use different 
 pages for collections and have people use the built in file attachment
stuff.
 However, I'm being told that isn't intuitive enough, so I'm looking 
 to do some sort of FTP like thing where paths can be created and 
 files uploaded to those paths to be later downloaded by others.
 
 I guess my question is, does anyone know of an existing app that does 
 this, or am I going to have to create this myself?
 
 You can use WebDAV to access the wiki.
 http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Features/WebDAV
 
 You can do some custom UI on top of the basic attachment feature.
 
 But note that the current attachment storage is not that memory 
 efficient, so it won't work well if the attachments are big. If you 
 have attachments less than 10-20 megabytes, that's OK, but bigger than 
 that requires a different approach. This will improve in the near future
(3.0 / 3.1 hopefully).
 
 Another alternative is to implement the file exchange using another 
 system, maybe even plain old FTP, and only provide an UI for it in 
 XWiki. How exactly this can be done depends on the service you want to 
 use and what remote access APIs it provides.
 
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Re: [xwiki-users] Doing a File Exchange App

2011-01-26 Thread Ludovic Dubost


I don't think it exists.

But it should not be too much work. You can use the built in 
PARENT-CHILD relationship between pages for your folder structure and 
the built it file upload for adding files.
Each page would be a FolderClass and use a FolderSheet which would 
display all it's children and attachments in folder mode.


You can then have a tree view or a browsing view.

Ludovic

Le 25/01/11 15:52, Scardino, Leonard R Jr ERDC-ITL-MS Contractor a écrit :

Sorry, I realize the way I worded it I wasn't very clear.  I do want to do
this within XWiki, not a separate application.  Basically I'm curious if
there is an existing XWiki app that would work for me that I didn't see
perusing the extensions page, or some way within XWiki already that would
accomplish this.  So any suggestions along that lines would be most helpful.

I know I can write my own if necessary, but I'd like to not have to re-invent
the wheel if possible.

Thanks,

Lenny



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From: users-boun...@xwiki.org [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of
Paul Libbrecht
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 5:32 PM
To: XWiki Users
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Doing a File Exchange App

Outside of XWiki?
I doubt it's as intuitive as XWiki but jFM did a good job for us.
   http://jfm.dev.java.net/

paul


Le 24 janv. 2011 à 23:10, Scardino, Leonard R Jr ERDC-ITL-MS Contractor a
écrit :


I'm being asked to do a File Exchange application in XWiki.  Basically
giving the users the ability to upload and download files for each
others use.  My first thought was to simply use different pages for
collections and have people use the built in file attachment stuff.
However, I'm being told that isn't intuitive enough, so I'm looking to
do some sort of FTP like thing where paths can be created and files
uploaded to those paths to be later downloaded by others.

I guess my question is, does anyone know of an existing app that does
this, or am I going to have to create this myself?

Thanks,

Lenny
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Re: [xwiki-users] Doing a File Exchange App

2011-01-25 Thread Scardino, Leonard R Jr ERDC-ITL-MS Contractor
Sorry, I realize the way I worded it I wasn't very clear.  I do want to do
this within XWiki, not a separate application.  Basically I'm curious if
there is an existing XWiki app that would work for me that I didn't see
perusing the extensions page, or some way within XWiki already that would
accomplish this.  So any suggestions along that lines would be most helpful.

I know I can write my own if necessary, but I'd like to not have to re-invent
the wheel if possible.

Thanks,

Lenny



-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@xwiki.org [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of
Paul Libbrecht
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 5:32 PM
To: XWiki Users
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Doing a File Exchange App

Outside of XWiki?
I doubt it's as intuitive as XWiki but jFM did a good job for us.
  http://jfm.dev.java.net/

paul


Le 24 janv. 2011 à 23:10, Scardino, Leonard R Jr ERDC-ITL-MS Contractor a
écrit :

 I'm being asked to do a File Exchange application in XWiki.  Basically 
 giving the users the ability to upload and download files for each 
 others use.  My first thought was to simply use different pages for 
 collections and have people use the built in file attachment stuff.  
 However, I'm being told that isn't intuitive enough, so I'm looking to 
 do some sort of FTP like thing where paths can be created and files 
 uploaded to those paths to be later downloaded by others.
 
 I guess my question is, does anyone know of an existing app that does 
 this, or am I going to have to create this myself?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Lenny
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Re: [xwiki-users] Doing a File Exchange App

2011-01-24 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu
On 01/24/2011 11:10 PM, Scardino, Leonard R Jr ERDC-ITL-MS Contractor wrote:
 I'm being asked to do a File Exchange application in XWiki.  Basically giving
 the users the ability to upload and download files for each others use.  My
 first thought was to simply use different pages for collections and have
 people use the built in file attachment stuff.  However, I'm being told that
 isn't intuitive enough, so I'm looking to do some sort of FTP like thing
 where paths can be created and files uploaded to those paths to be later
 downloaded by others.

 I guess my question is, does anyone know of an existing app that does this,
 or am I going to have to create this myself?

You can use WebDAV to access the wiki.
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Features/WebDAV

You can do some custom UI on top of the basic attachment feature.

But note that the current attachment storage is not that memory 
efficient, so it won't work well if the attachments are big. If you have 
attachments less than 10-20 megabytes, that's OK, but bigger than that 
requires a different approach. This will improve in the near future (3.0 
/ 3.1 hopefully).

Another alternative is to implement the file exchange using another 
system, maybe even plain old FTP, and only provide an UI for it in 
XWiki. How exactly this can be done depends on the service you want to 
use and what remote access APIs it provides.

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