Re: [xwiki-users] Recycle bin /Trash
Hi Patrick, On 13 Jan 2014 at 19:10:01, Patrick Masson (mas...@opensource.org(mailto://mas...@opensource.org)) wrote: Vincent, I added a comment on the page with my thoughts (not sure of how the continue the discussion - in the users group or on the wiki page). My rationale is in the comment: I got your email and saw your edits, I am just thinking answering the question directly and pointing to the documentation would have been most helpful to me when I was looking. Interesting before I sent the note to the user's list, I searched for xwiki restore deleted document, xwiki recycle bin xwiki trash etc. and did not find the Index Application page. In addition, I also searched xwiki.org for restore deleted page and did not find anything. I think the challenge for me as a newbie is that I do not know the nomenclature of xwiki yet. I do not know how I (or other newbies) would have known to look for the Index Application? What do you think? Hope my merging of our efforts is OK? However your point about maintaining two sets of documentation would be a pain and not a good idea. Not sure I understood your point! :) Could you explain why it’s not a good idea to try to have to maintain documentation content in a single place? I understand that we need several ways to reach a documentation place and I agree with having a FAQ entry for this precise example for that reason. However, I really think we need to try to have all documentation about a given feature in a single location as much as possible. Maybe I am just addressing the wrong problem. My issue was that I could not find the existing documentation. I restored your version and just added on how to restore deleted pages/attachments.” I’ve also edited a bit the documentation page at http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Index+Application It’s now linked from 2 places I know of: - http://main.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment - http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/DocumentLifecycle#HRestore (which is the first entry I get in google when I search for “xwiki restore deleted attachment”) Hope it’s now easier to get that information from the onset! :) Thanks for your help! -Vincent Thanks, Patrick On 01/13/2014 01:02 PM, vinc...@massol.net(mailto:vinc...@massol.net) wrote: Hi Patrick, I see you’ve restored your content that I had moved to the Index Application’s documentation on: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment Do you really believe it’s better to have to maintain 2 places? My POV was that it’s always easier to maintain a single place and have the FAQ entry point to the right documentation. If you think the documentation isn’t good enough at http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Index+Application then I believe it might be better to edit that page and improve it, WDYT? Thanks -Vincent On 13 Jan 2014 at 18:22:28, vinc...@massol.net(mailto:vinc...@massol.net) (vinc...@massol.net(mailto://vinc...@massol.net)) wrote: On 13 Jan 2014 at 18:01:15, Patrick Masson (mas...@opensource.org(mailto:mas...@opensource.org)(mailto://mas...@opensource.org)) wrote: Thanks, I've added your answer to the XWiki.org FAQ at: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment+from+the+trash+or+recycle+bin%3F Thanks Patrick! Very nice initiative :) I’ve made some small modifications: * First I’ve renamed the page so that the page name isn’t too long and I’ve removed the ending question mark since a question mark is automatically added to the title when the FAQ entry is rendered * I’ve linked to the Index Application which is where the documentation is located. New location: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment Thanks -Vincent On 01/10/2014 04:46 PM, Maxime Sinclair wrote: Hi Patrick, Go to the index page of the wiki (Main.AllDocs) and select the deleted pages or deleted attchments tab. If these tabs don't appear, I suppose you must have admin rights to see them. On 10/01/2014 22:27, Patrick Masson wrote: I looked around a bit, but is there a way to list pages/attachments users have deleted? ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Recycle bin /Trash
Vincent, However your point about maintaining two sets of documentation would be a pain and not a good idea. Not sure I understood your point! :) Could you explain why it’s not a good idea to try to have to maintain documentation content in a single place? I understand that we need several ways to reach a documentation place and I agree with having a FAQ entry for this precise example for that reason. However, I really think we need to try to have all documentation about a given feature in a single location as much as possible. Hmm reading my comment I see how poorly it was written--I was agreeing with you. Let me try again... However your point about maintaining two sets of documentation [is a good one, that I had not considered and it ] would be a pain [to maintain redundant FAQ content as the technical aspects (and thus possibly the user interface) of XWiki changed] and [thus my approach is] not a good idea. Maybe I am just addressing the wrong problem. My issue was that I could not find the existing documentation. I restored your version and just added on how to restore deleted pages/attachments.” I’ve also edited a bit the documentation page at http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Index+Application It’s now linked from 2 places I know of: - http://main.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment - http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/DocumentLifecycle#HRestore (which is the first entry I get in google when I search for “xwiki restore deleted attachment”) Hope it’s now easier to get that information from the onset! :) Always happy to be the lowest common denominator. Thanks for your help! Sorry to be a pest. Patrick -- ||| | ||||| |||| ||| Patrick Masson General Manager, Director Secretary to the Board Open Source Initiative 855 El Camino Real, Ste 13A, #270 Palo Alto, CA 94301 United States Skype: massonpj sip: osi-mas...@ekiga.net Ph: (970) 4MASSON Em: mas...@opensource.org mailto:mas...@opensource.org Ws: www.opensource.org http://www.opensource.org ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Recycle bin /Trash
On 14 Jan 2014 at 16:06:25, Patrick Masson (mas...@opensource.org(mailto://mas...@opensource.org)) wrote: Vincent, However your point about maintaining two sets of documentation would be a pain and not a good idea. Not sure I understood your point! :) Could you explain why it’s not a good idea to try to have to maintain documentation content in a single place? I understand that we need several ways to reach a documentation place and I agree with having a FAQ entry for this precise example for that reason. However, I really think we need to try to have all documentation about a given feature in a single location as much as possible. Hmm reading my comment I see how poorly it was written--I was agreeing with you. Let me try again... However your point about maintaining two sets of documentation [is a good one, that I had not considered and it ] would be a pain [to maintain redundant FAQ content as the technical aspects (and thus possibly the user interface) of XWiki changed] and [thus my approach is] not a good idea.” ahah, ok, all is good then :) [snip] Always happy to be the lowest common denominator. Thanks for your help! Sorry to be a pest. Not at all. Documentation is very important for a project and the fact that you couldn’t find what you were looking for immediately is a concern to me. Please report any other thing you cannot find easily and I’ll try to help to improve the documentation. Also, if you have suggestion to improve documentation navigation please let us know (or even participate as you did, this is most welcome!) Thanks -Vincent ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Recycle bin /Trash
Thanks, I've added your answer to the XWiki.org FAQ at: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment+from+the+trash+or+recycle+bin%3F On 01/10/2014 04:46 PM, Maxime Sinclair wrote: Hi Patrick, Go to the index page of the wiki (Main.AllDocs) and select the deleted pages or deleted attchments tab. If these tabs don't appear, I suppose you must have admin rights to see them. On 10/01/2014 22:27, Patrick Masson wrote: I looked around a bit, but is there a way to list pages/attachments users have deleted? ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- ||| | ||||| |||| ||| Patrick Masson General Manager, Director Secretary to the Board Open Source Initiative 855 El Camino Real, Ste 13A, #270 Palo Alto, CA 94301 United States Skype: massonpj sip: osi-mas...@ekiga.net Ph: (970) 4MASSON Em: mass...@opensource.org mailto:mas...@opensource.org Ws: www.opensource.org http://www.opensource.org ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Recycle bin /Trash
On 13 Jan 2014 at 18:01:15, Patrick Masson (mas...@opensource.org(mailto://mas...@opensource.org)) wrote: Thanks, I've added your answer to the XWiki.org FAQ at: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment+from+the+trash+or+recycle+bin%3F Thanks Patrick! Very nice initiative :) I’ve made some small modifications: * First I’ve renamed the page so that the page name isn’t too long and I’ve removed the ending question mark since a question mark is automatically added to the title when the FAQ entry is rendered * I’ve linked to the Index Application which is where the documentation is located. New location: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment Thanks -Vincent On 01/10/2014 04:46 PM, Maxime Sinclair wrote: Hi Patrick, Go to the index page of the wiki (Main.AllDocs) and select the deleted pages or deleted attchments tab. If these tabs don't appear, I suppose you must have admin rights to see them. On 10/01/2014 22:27, Patrick Masson wrote: I looked around a bit, but is there a way to list pages/attachments users have deleted? ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Recycle bin /Trash
Hi Patrick, I see you’ve restored your content that I had moved to the Index Application’s documentation on: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment Do you really believe it’s better to have to maintain 2 places? My POV was that it’s always easier to maintain a single place and have the FAQ entry point to the right documentation. If you think the documentation isn’t good enough at http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Index+Application then I believe it might be better to edit that page and improve it, WDYT? Thanks -Vincent On 13 Jan 2014 at 18:22:28, vinc...@massol.net (vinc...@massol.net) wrote: On 13 Jan 2014 at 18:01:15, Patrick Masson (mas...@opensource.org(mailto://mas...@opensource.org)) wrote: Thanks, I've added your answer to the XWiki.org FAQ at: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment+from+the+trash+or+recycle+bin%3F Thanks Patrick! Very nice initiative :) I’ve made some small modifications: * First I’ve renamed the page so that the page name isn’t too long and I’ve removed the ending question mark since a question mark is automatically added to the title when the FAQ entry is rendered * I’ve linked to the Index Application which is where the documentation is located. New location: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment Thanks -Vincent On 01/10/2014 04:46 PM, Maxime Sinclair wrote: Hi Patrick, Go to the index page of the wiki (Main.AllDocs) and select the deleted pages or deleted attchments tab. If these tabs don't appear, I suppose you must have admin rights to see them. On 10/01/2014 22:27, Patrick Masson wrote: I looked around a bit, but is there a way to list pages/attachments users have deleted? ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Recycle bin /Trash
Hi, Vincent, I modified your doucument also. Due to the bug http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-9065 one might not see any deleted attachments. Понедельник, 13 января 2014, 19:02 +01:00 от vinc...@massol.net vinc...@massol.net: Hi Patrick, I see you’ve restored your content that I had moved to the Index Application’s documentation on: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment Do you really believe it’s better to have to maintain 2 places? My POV was that it’s always easier to maintain a single place and have the FAQ entry point to the right documentation. If you think the documentation isn’t good enough at http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Index+Application then I believe it might be better to edit that page and improve it, WDYT? Thanks -Vincent On 13 Jan 2014 at 18:22:28, vinc...@massol.net (vinc...@massol.net) wrote: On 13 Jan 2014 at 18:01:15, Patrick Masson (mas...@opensource.org(mailto://mas...@opensource.org)) wrote: Thanks, I've added your answer to the XWiki.org FAQ at: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment+from+the+trash+or+recycle+bin%3F Thanks Patrick! Very nice initiative :) I’ve made some small modifications: * First I’ve renamed the page so that the page name isn’t too long and I’ve removed the ending question mark since a question mark is automatically added to the title when the FAQ entry is rendered * I’ve linked to the Index Application which is where the documentation is located. New location: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment Thanks -Vincent On 01/10/2014 04:46 PM, Maxime Sinclair wrote: Hi Patrick, Go to the index page of the wiki (Main.AllDocs) and select the deleted pages or deleted attchments tab. If these tabs don't appear, I suppose you must have admin rights to see them. On 10/01/2014 22:27, Patrick Masson wrote: I looked around a bit, but is there a way to list pages/attachments users have deleted? ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users Kind regards, Dmitry ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Recycle bin /Trash
Vincent, I added a comment on the page with my thoughts (not sure of how the continue the discussion - in the users group or on the wiki page). My rationale is in the comment: I got your email and saw your edits, I am just thinking answering the question directly and pointing to the documentation would have been most helpful to me when I was looking. Interesting before I sent the note to the user's list, I searched for xwiki restore deleted document, xwiki recycle bin xwiki trash etc. and did not find the Index Application page. In addition, I also searched xwiki.org for restore deleted page and did not find anything. I think the challenge for me as a newbie is that I do not know the nomenclature of xwiki yet. I do not know how I (or other newbies) would have known to look for the Index Application? What do you think? Hope my merging of our efforts is OK? However your point about maintaining two sets of documentation would be a pain and not a good idea. Maybe I am just addressing the wrong problem. My issue was that I could not find the existing documentation. I restored your version and just added on how to restore deleted pages/attachments. Thanks, Patrick On 01/13/2014 01:02 PM, vinc...@massol.net wrote: Hi Patrick, I see you’ve restored your content that I had moved to the Index Application’s documentation on: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment Do you really believe it’s better to have to maintain 2 places? My POV was that it’s always easier to maintain a single place and have the FAQ entry point to the right documentation. If you think the documentation isn’t good enough at http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Index+Application then I believe it might be better to edit that page and improve it, WDYT? Thanks -Vincent On 13 Jan 2014 at 18:22:28, vinc...@massol.net (vinc...@massol.net mailto://vinc...@massol.net) wrote: On 13 Jan 2014 at 18:01:15, Patrick Masson (mas...@opensource.org(mailto://mas...@opensource.org)) wrote: Thanks, I've added your answer to the XWiki.org FAQ at: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment+from+the+trash+or+recycle+bin%3F Thanks Patrick! Very nice initiative :) I’ve made some small modifications: * First I’ve renamed the page so that the page name isn’t too long and I’ve removed the ending question mark since a question mark is automatically added to the title when the FAQ entry is rendered * I’ve linked to the Index Application which is where the documentation is located. New location: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+do+I+restore+a+deleted+page+or+attachment Thanks -Vincent On 01/10/2014 04:46 PM, Maxime Sinclair wrote: Hi Patrick, Go to the index page of the wiki (Main.AllDocs) and select the deleted pages or deleted attchments tab. If these tabs don't appear, I suppose you must have admin rights to see them. On 10/01/2014 22:27, Patrick Masson wrote: I looked around a bit, but is there a way to list pages/attachments users have deleted? -- ||| | ||||| |||| ||| Patrick Masson General Manager, Director Secretary to the Board Open Source Initiative 855 El Camino Real, Ste 13A, #270 Palo Alto, CA 94301 United States Skype: massonpj sip: osi-mas...@ekiga.net Ph: (970) 4MASSON Em: mass...@opensource.org mailto:mas...@opensource.org Ws: www.opensource.org http://www.opensource.org ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] Recycle bin /Trash
I looked around a bit, but is there a way to list pages/attachments users have deleted? -- ||| | ||||| |||| ||| Patrick Masson General Manager, Director Secretary to the Board Open Source Initiative 855 El Camino Real, Ste 13A, #270 Palo Alto, CA 94301 United States Skype: massonpj sip: osi-mas...@ekiga.net Ph: (970) 4MASSON Em: mass...@opensource.org mailto:mas...@opensource.org Ws: www.opensource.org http://www.opensource.org ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Recycle bin /Trash
Hi Patrick, Go to the index page of the wiki (Main.AllDocs) and select the deleted pages or deleted attchments tab. If these tabs don't appear, I suppose you must have admin rights to see them. On 10/01/2014 22:27, Patrick Masson wrote: I looked around a bit, but is there a way to list pages/attachments users have deleted? ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
