Re: machine won't start

2012-07-04 Thread Carsten Mattner
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Edward M martinezedward...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/03/2012 02:15 PM, Carsten Mattner wrote: At that point I hit hard (cold) reset and since that time the machine won't leave the BIOS startup phase (POST?). Took out the CMOS battery for a minute to no avail.

Re: machine won't start

2012-07-04 Thread Carsten Mattner
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Sascha Wildner s...@online.de wrote: On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:15:47 +0200, Carsten Mattner carstenmatt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I tried to install dfly 3.0.2 on an old amd64 box. When setup was in the configuration phase it didn't allow setting passwords with

Re: machine won't start

2012-07-04 Thread Raimundo Santos
On 4 July 2012 06:25, Carsten Mattner carstenmatt...@gmail.com wrote: The most important questions are - will the installer always corrupt the hdd in this machine? Well, I have never seen this issue, but if it happened one time, may happen again. If you like some challenge, try to install by

Re: machine won't start

2012-07-04 Thread Sascha Wildner
On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 12:16:25 +0200, Carsten Mattner carstenmatt...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Sascha Wildner s...@online.de wrote: On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:15:47 +0200, Carsten Mattner carstenmatt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I tried to install dfly 3.0.2 on an old amd64

Re: machine won't start

2012-07-04 Thread Matthew Dillon
Normally this issue can be fixed by setting the BIOS to access the disk in LBA or LARGE mode. The problem is due to a bug in the BIOS's attempt to interpret the slice table in CHS mode instead of logical block mode. It's a BIOS bug. These old BIOS's make a lot of assumptions

Re: machine won't start

2012-07-04 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com wrote: Normally this issue can be fixed by setting the BIOS to access the disk in LBA or LARGE mode. The problem is due to a bug in the BIOS's attempt to interpret the slice table in CHS mode instead of

Re: machine won't start

2012-07-04 Thread Carsten Mattner
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com wrote: Normally this issue can be fixed by setting the BIOS to access the disk in LBA or LARGE mode. The problem is due to a bug in the BIOS's attempt to interpret the slice table in CHS mode instead of

Re: machine won't start

2012-07-04 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Thanks Matt for the explanation and tip. : :It did of course hang when I tried to DEL into the BIOS. :What worked is pulling out the sata connector, entering :the BIOS putting it back and then detecting the disk. :Interesting the auto detection then worked. I've explicitly :set it to LARGE and

Re: machine won't start

2012-07-04 Thread Carsten Mattner
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com wrote: :Thanks Matt for the explanation and tip. : :It did of course hang when I tried to DEL into the BIOS. :What worked is pulling out the sata connector, entering :the BIOS putting it back and then detecting the

Re: machine won't start

2012-07-04 Thread Carsten Mattner
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Carsten Mattner carstenmatt...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com wrote: :Thanks Matt for the explanation and tip. : :It did of course hang when I tried to DEL into the BIOS. :What worked is pulling out

Re: machine won't start

2012-07-04 Thread Raimundo Santos
On 4 July 2012 14:31, Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com wrote: I consider it almost a lost cause. Don't get it: trying to fix this is a lost cause? -- Raimundo A. P. Santos Bacharelando em Informática ICMC - USP

Re: machine won't start

2012-07-04 Thread Carsten Mattner
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Carsten Mattner carstenmatt...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Carsten Mattner carstenmatt...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com wrote: :Thanks Matt for the explanation and tip. : :It

Re: machine won't start

2012-07-04 Thread Matthew Dillon
: I consider it almost a lost cause. : : :Don't get it: trying to fix this is a lost cause? Yah, because if we fix it for one BIOS we break it for another. Hence, a lost cause. There is no single fix which covers all BIOSs. -Matt

Re: machine won't start

2012-07-04 Thread Tobias Weingartner
Been down that path, and almost lost my sanity. The code that probes for disks via the BIOS (in openbsd's boot loader) is just as sensitive, causing hangs, etc. Writing that was... interesting. The partition table entries are just about as sensitive (as you've found out), and the joy is all the