Re: how do people play with different versions of DBSD on the same system?

2005-09-26 Thread Bill Hacker
/ applications area, but should not have any OS-related files or needed resources on it. HTH, Bill Hacker

Re: how do people play with different versions of DBSD on the same system?

2005-09-26 Thread Bill Hacker
... and will change again, differently, next cycle. Any 'modern' OS is too big to keep the whole thing in view, and space is cheap. YMMV, Bill Hacker

Re: how do people play with different versions of DBSD on the same system?

2005-10-11 Thread Bill Hacker
walt wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: Bob Bagwill wrote: How are people playing with different versions of DBSD on the same system? [...] - partition and slice your media into many (preferably equal sized) portions... I like to point out at every opportunity that DragonFlyBSD is the *only

Re: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle *groan*

2005-12-01 Thread Bill Hacker
) to start at power-ON means it will usually be ready well before the MB BIOS and other devices have finished POST, so it is seldom an issue even with multiple hardware RAID. YMMV, Bill Hacker

Re: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle *groan*

2005-12-03 Thread Bill Hacker
] needs even a 1 second delay - most of it is reporting-in from silicon before system-board BIOS POST is complete. Motor spin-up is no longer the determinant. Bill Hacker [1] Discounting a still working pair of 20 MB beta Bernoulli II, a pair of Syquest Puma 88, an NEC 2X 'MultiSpin' CD reader

Re: Fwd: How do I instal Dragonfly BSD from a hard drive - rather than CD?

2005-12-17 Thread Bill Hacker
. That might yet be of value for debugging, and partly because the emulated machine is 'standardized'. Bill Hacker

Re: Fwd: How do I instal Dragonfly BSD from a hard drive - rather than CD?

2005-12-17 Thread Bill Hacker
Hiten Pandya wrote: Emiel Kollof wrote: Hi guys, Forwarded to the users list (The forwarded post is below) and also a reply to this guy. I know it's a troll, but I thought it was way too funny for you guys to miss. It nearly made me choke on my morning coffee. This guy owes me a new

Re: more dragonfly photos

2006-01-27 Thread Bill Hacker
Bob Bagwill wrote: Just in case you haven't seen this site: http://stephenville.tamu.edu/~fmitchel/dragonfly/index.html -- Bob Would that this one were Gates or Ballmer http://stephenville.tamu.edu/~fmitchel/dragonfly/photo/cw_drfly.htm ..ah, well. Dreaming is cheap enuf ;-)

Re: Argh, Stray interrupts 2006

2006-06-03 Thread Bill Hacker
Danial Thom wrote: My tech tried firing up 1.4 on an opteron MB with an HT1000 chipset and, although it seems to work, the console is literally flooding with stray irq 7 messages. Freebsd at least suppressed these after a few, but when is someone actually going to FIX this in BSD? Someone told

Odd News Server symptom?

2006-06-07 Thread Bill Hacker
such article number in this group Perhaps the article has expired [EMAIL PROTECTED] (5994) Click here to remove all expired articles === Wazzup? Bill Hacker

Re: NVIDIA FreeBSD Kernel Feature Requests, interesting info for dfly?

2006-07-13 Thread Bill Hacker
Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 05:04:22PM +0800, Bill Hacker wrote: Old or new branches of X are rooted in a very different architectural philosophy than Win vid, and would have to start over from a clean slate to even match the sort of performance of an Amiga, BeBox, Warp

Re: NVIDIA FreeBSD Kernel Feature Requests, interesting info for dfly?

2006-07-13 Thread Bill Hacker
Dimitri Kovalov wrote: --- Bill Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AMD-64 6.1-STABLE. Plus one Xeon using 6.1, i386. Talk about an expensive boat anchor! Dimitri Yes, boat anchors, at least for small craft, are considerably lighter and cheaper. But they don't support 2+ Terabyte fast

Re: Interview with Matt on bsdtalk about 1.6

2006-07-13 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: :On Thu, July 13, 2006 10:01 am, Dimitri Kovalov wrote: : : I listen to this. Very interesting. I only challange one : thing. You say that 1.6 is more stable than FreeBSD 4.x. : How can you make this claim? FreeBSD 4.x is installed in : 1000s of servers and network devices

Re: NVIDIA FreeBSD Kernel Feature Requests, interesting info for dfly?

2006-07-13 Thread Bill Hacker
Joseph Garcia wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: - the snappy browser interface included with the QNX demo floppy of many years ago. Are you talking about that QNX enviroment that fit on just a 1.44MB floppy? That was like 10 years ago wasn't it? I have to admit. That thing was freaking AWESOME

Re: What would you like in DF 1.8?

2006-07-18 Thread Bill Hacker
to some extent in the *BSD's in general - as with lessons learned from the 'trusted' and 'secure' *BSD efforts. IOW - DragonFly has already gone far enough that it cannot 'fail' - just succeed to a greater or lesser degree. ;-) Bill Hacker

Re: disk diagnostics

2006-07-25 Thread Bill Hacker
Pieter Dumon wrote: Hi, how can I diagnose my disk read/write throughput under DFLy ? my system runs well except that untarring even small tar files or deleting files takes a lot of time (e.g. the removal of /usr/obj/usr/src/world_i386 during a make buildworld takes about 25 minutes (I admit

Re: disk diagnostics

2006-07-25 Thread Bill Hacker
Freddie Cash wrote: On Tue, July 25, 2006 12:34 pm, Bill Hacker wrote: Pieter Dumon wrote: how can I diagnose my disk read/write throughput under DFLy ? my system runs well except that untarring even small tar files or deleting files takes a lot of time (e.g. the removal of /usr/obj/usr/src

Re: disk diagnostics

2006-07-25 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: Warren Hull 25 minutes delay comes in, and I/O tuning doesn't cover that. Too big a number for where it is being reported as happening. Either something else - probably something *basic* but simply overlooked - is placing demands

Re: disk diagnostics

2006-07-26 Thread Bill Hacker
sure. Thanks, Bill thanks already, Pieter On 7/26/06, Bill Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: Warren Hull 25 minutes delay comes in, and I/O tuning doesn't cover that. Too big a number for where it is being reported as happening. Either

Re: disk diagnostics

2006-07-26 Thread Bill Hacker
Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 08:06:57AM +0800, Bill Hacker wrote: softupdates? writing meta data with sync will be really slow. No, not *that* slow, not even on K6-2-500 with 256 MB of SDRAM, where I have done it on a production FreeBSD 4.8 web mx box for donkey's

Re: disk diagnostics

2006-07-26 Thread Bill Hacker
Bill Hacker wrote: *SNIP* *Especially so* if it has a filemanager view window open and is trying to keep it current and sorted. Also - are you perchance logging the progress and/or appending to a file? Bill

Re: Fwd: disk diagnostics

2006-07-26 Thread Bill Hacker
Pieter Dumon wrote: *snip* ... I get the same problem for instance when untarring an archive of some tens of MB: it takes ages. I haven't had a DragonFly install active for over a year, but using a tarball we all have access to - the 98.5 MB DFLY 1.6 iso, I get: === 2U server: time

Re: disk diagnostics

2006-07-27 Thread Bill Hacker
Pieter Dumon wrote: On 7/26/06, Bill Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: complete in *seconds* what you are reporting in *minutes*. that's what I thought too. Something just has to be wrong with your set up. yep, and I'd like to find out what. Below are some logs. Pieter *SNIP* time

Re: Asynchronous Console Messages?

2006-07-29 Thread Bill Hacker
and sequencing of ~/etc/rc.d scripts. HTH, Bill Hacker

Re: Default PATH in login.conf

2006-08-12 Thread Bill Hacker
* be removed unless/until one of those suicide-kits is actually installed? '~/games' as well, while we are cleaning up old mistakes. Bill Hacker

Re: System downtime wednesday for maintainance.

2006-08-17 Thread Bill Hacker
Peter Avalos wrote: On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 04:41:00PM +0800, W B Hacker wrote: Have you noticed any electrolytic capacitors - probably in VR section - with slightly bulged tops? Some of those have taken a *long* time to work thru the system and fail - long after the 'big wave' has largely

Re: Not sure how to do this tricky install...

2006-08-17 Thread Bill Hacker
. You may then use ssh to build a custom kernel, etc. Our rackmount servers typically go their entire lives this way, with MB changes HDD replacement, OS upgrades, etc. HTH, Bill Hacker

Re: Not sure how to do this tricky install...

2006-08-17 Thread Bill Hacker
Chris Csanady wrote: This is only somewhat related, but would it be possible to have the getty on ttyd0 enabled by default, at least for the install cd? I haven't tried to log into the installer account over the network, but this does sound like the best option if you have a dhcp server in

Re: question about sendmail

2006-08-27 Thread Bill Hacker
Saverio Iacovelli wrote: After the installation, DFly OS have got a active sendmail server. 1) Does it need to configure a DNS server for sending email with mail client and sendmail? Sendmail (any MTA) will ordinarily follow the internet 'food chain' to find a DNS. You need not run one

Re: DF-BSD on apple hardware

2006-08-31 Thread Bill Hacker
lap wrote: Justin C. Sherrill a écrit : *snip* (Your return email is a bad address, by the way.) Yes I know, I get bored of being spammed. If you are not running windows, you can send mail to me at laurent (at sign) chez (minus sign) le (minus sign) sourd dot name . :) LaP Cuts both

Re: The future of NetBSD by Charles M. Hannum

2006-09-02 Thread Bill Hacker
Jonathon McKitrick wrote: I'm starting to imagine the size of the Lisp image I could run on a cluster like the kind being discussed ;-) Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box. Go and wath out your mouth with thoap! ;-) Bill

Re: The future of NetBSD by Charles M. Hannum

2006-09-02 Thread Bill Hacker
it of browsers - particularly search engines. DFLY could be a better platform for many of these things than what is out there now. And it is a huge and growing market. That's what it is good for, IMNSHO. YOMD, Bill Hacker Note that

Re: users as blobs

2006-09-04 Thread Bill Hacker
Markus Hitter wrote: Am 04.09.2006 um 00:16 schrieb walt: Are you thinking about, say, pointers to my real blob which exists on one physical server, or actually migrating blob-walt to anywhere I'm actually needed? (Most likely to unplug the sink or the toilet.) This could be something

Re: users as blobs

2006-09-05 Thread Bill Hacker
Jeremy C. Reed wrote: By contrast, *n*x is often irritating in that one can be sitting in the same dir as a given binary, but if it is not on the PATH, still have to prepend at least a './' - if not the entire path - in order to invoke said binary. Even CP/M or DOS ain't *that* picky!

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Bill Hacker
Rahul Siddharthan wrote: I've long had a question on the shutdown process. Linux systems run a separate shutdown script for every process that was started at boot, and can take a minute or two to shutdown. FreeBSD and Dragonfly, as far as I can tell, just kill all processes, flush buffers,

Re: Hints on kernel config for a dula pII/450 system anyone?

2006-09-17 Thread Bill Hacker
Gergo Szakal wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: *BSD folk, unlike Penguins, are generally agnostic. Use whatever is the best 'fit for the purpose'. Using only 1 processor is not enough. An AMD K62/450 is not enough for the amount of traffic going through. theoretically, DF *should* run

Re: Hints on kernel config for a dula pII/450 system anyone?

2006-09-18 Thread Bill Hacker
Gergo Szakal wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: We've all been (still are) there w/r the economics. But when funds are needed elsewhere, and 'run what hardware you have' is mandatory, then DFLY would not be the best choice. For that to change sooner, rather than someday-maybe, best to leave

Re: Bridging again

2006-09-25 Thread Bill Hacker
Gergo Szakal wrote: Followed the advice here: http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2006-05/msg00148.html and tried to pass thru the traffic of the whole dormitory but it does not seem to pass packets (even with PF disabled). With OpenBSD 3.8, I have done the same

Re: boot problem, disk mess.. thinking of suicide.

2006-09-25 Thread Bill Hacker
Vladimir Mitiouchev wrote: *snip* PS2 Thanks God i wasn't running softupdates! Muhh... don't be too sure... 'Softupdates' have saved me far more grief than they have ever contributed to. Lot's of folk misunderstand what they do - and how quickly they can post if all the kit is properly

Re: Bridging again

2006-09-25 Thread Bill Hacker
Gergo Szakal wrote: *snip* WBH said: i.e. - what is the intended service? The intention is to transparently filter the traffic of a given department. I know it is appropriate, since our old bridge has been runnning for 17 months now. :-) Sidenote: The IPs are public, no proxying, and

Re: EuroBSDCon registration Open

2006-09-25 Thread Bill Hacker
Massimiliano Stucchi wrote: Hi all, we finally made it, the registration for EuroBSDCon 2006 - Milan is now open to everybody. Please register as soon as possible to ensure a seat for you at the event ! go to http://www.eurobsdcon.org/register/ and complete the registration process. It is

Re: How to disable the boot0 menu?

2006-09-26 Thread Bill Hacker
Justin C. Sherrill wrote: On Tue, September 26, 2006 2:59 pm, Thomas Schlesinger wrote: I there a way to disable the appearance of the boot0 menu completely? 'fdisk -B ad0' or maybe 'boot0cfg -B -b /boot/mbr' or maybe If you have a Windows boot floppy, boot from that and type 'fdisk

Re: How to disable the boot0 menu?

2006-09-27 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: The boot0 menu is run from /boot/loader.rc. You can pretty much do whatever you want there... in the forth language :-) Forth is a lot more than just a 'language'. It is an inherently virtual-memory, dual-stack, virtual machine and the operating system to run

Re: Is fc-cache broken on -current?

2006-09-27 Thread Bill Hacker
walt wrote: Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 03:05:44PM -0700, walt wrote: Can anyone confirm this error with the latest fontconfig from pkgsrc? # fc-cache -v /usr/pkg/xorg/lib/X11/fonts/TTF /usr/pkg/xorg/lib/X11/fonts/TTF: caching, 22 fonts, 0 dirs

Re: boot problem, disk mess.. thinking of suicide.

2006-09-27 Thread Bill Hacker
Vladimir Mitiouchev wrote: 26 Sep 2006 10:49:11 GMT, Oliver Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And if you did, you should newfs(8) the file system when you replaced the cables with good ones. Q: Why fsck is not enough? Then re-install from your backup. DragonFly's journaling feature allows for

Re: Is fc-cache broken on -current?

2006-09-27 Thread Bill Hacker
Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, Bill Hacker wrote: *snip* Ordinarily NOT by the 'update'. But by the 'updater', (person, not process...) On deinstallation of a package, the package's registered configurations are compared with the versions in the share/examples directory

Re: Is fc-cache broken on -current?

2006-09-27 Thread Bill Hacker
walt wrote: Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, Bill Hacker wrote: walt wrote: The problem was that those config files should have been replaced during the update! Ordinarily NOT by the 'update'. But by the 'updater', .. with care to preserve whatever customization

Re: boot problem, disk mess.. thinking of suicide.

2006-09-27 Thread Bill Hacker
walt wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: ...IBM-Hitachi are again safe to use... Hearsay, or personal experience? Experience. We've had our share of 'Deathstar' - even tracked down one of the faults that IBM, AFAIK, never published. Expect to find an ash-pit about 0.020 inches in diameter

Re: boot problem, disk mess.. thinking of suicide.

2006-09-27 Thread Bill Hacker
Justin C. Sherrill wrote: On Wed, September 27, 2006 3:53 pm, Bill Hacker wrote: OTOH, we have decided to buy no more 3.5 HDD *anyway*. 2.5 are now large enough, fast enough, and reasonably well priced enough to allow us to put the redundant arrays into 1U, and on less power, that we now

Re: dragonfly wine

2006-09-28 Thread Bill Hacker
David Aubril wrote: Well, unfortunately, I am not a developper ; just a french teacher. I would have love to help, but this is way too far for me. Thanks for your answers, though. And what is it that you have discovered that the French are willing to be taught? ;-) Yury Tarasievich

Re: bmake not killing childrens

2006-09-29 Thread Bill Hacker
Victor Balada Diaz wrote: Hi, some of you may have noticed that sometimes when you type Ctrl + C to stop bmake it doesn't stop. I find that behaviour annoying so i created this patch[1] to solve it. I find 'hard to stop' annoying enough in general to always have a second session open,

Re: bmake not killing childrens

2006-09-29 Thread Bill Hacker
Victor Balada Diaz wrote: On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 02:21:00AM +0800, Bill Hacker wrote: I find 'hard to stop' annoying enough in general to always have a second session open, uusally with 'top' in it... A 'kill -9 bmake's PID' or a 'killall bmake's executable name' - can cause just as much

Re: bmake not killing childrens (going way off-topic)

2006-09-30 Thread Bill Hacker
Martin P. Hellwig wrote: There are these times when things just go horribly wrong, yesterday my new boss (who barely touches a computer) saw me rebooting a old FBSD4 server and asked me what that devil was, ok after some explaining he more or less believed me. Now he came into my office and

Re: mailserver using dfbsd

2006-10-03 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: :Hi, : :I'm going to install dragonflybsd on two mail server proxies: primary and secondary MX with milter-greylist on. :I need to share greylist data on both of them, I can do it using a dbms and I'll modify milter source code to store :such data in dbms instead RAM. :

Re: Network Slowdowns?

2006-10-07 Thread Bill Hacker
Jamie wrote: *SNIP* (all details already posted) (I use 3Com on all machines) Without digressing into decades of *why*, I can just about guarantee that replacing the offending card with almost-anything-else, from el-cheapo Realtek to Gig-E Intel, probable exception of anything-SiS, will

Re: Network Slowdowns?

2006-10-08 Thread Bill Hacker
Freddie Cash wrote: Odd, we do the exact opposite, replacing all non-3Com NICs we come across with 3Com NICs, for the exact same reason you do: to get something that we know works, and works reliably. :) No doubt in an all-3Com environment it should do .. For Windows, Linux, and

Re: Network Slowdowns?

2006-10-08 Thread Bill Hacker
Justin C. Sherrill wrote: On Sun, October 8, 2006 1:39 pm, Jonas Trollvik wrote: We *always* replace 3Com on general principal when encountered, and at our own (not client) expense. Not about right or wrong, its about what works *always* and what doesn't always work. Odd, we do the exact

Re: Network Slowdowns?

2006-10-11 Thread Bill Hacker
Jamie wrote: Just to let anyone know.. As pr. sephe's instructions I did this: line 433 in /usr/src/sys/dev/netif/xl/if_xlreg.h Changed this: #define XL_MIN_FRAMELEN 60 To this:

Re: For the laughs :)

2006-10-12 Thread Bill Hacker
Sascha Wildner wrote: New predictions from our old friend Danial Thom: My prediction is that a year from now we'll all be using DragonflyBSD and you guys will be looking for a new bunch of beta-test guinea pigs. Thanks to Ancient on #dragonflybsd for noticing.

Re: Network Slowdowns?

2006-10-13 Thread Bill Hacker
Jamie wrote: * snip* The lights show 100mbs if that means anything. :-) Jamie It could. Dunno if Unix will even (still) DO this, but OS/2 was happy as a clam running 'ethernet protocol' point-to-point between two boxes. No need for the higher-level TCP/IP 'layer'. Lean, mean, and

Re: Network Slowdowns

2006-10-13 Thread Bill Hacker
Paul Allen wrote: See commit relating to revision 1.258 of if_fxp.c (in FreeBSD) There is some evidence that this problem is not localized to fxp but common to many driver implementations. - Forwarded message from John-Mark Gurney [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Jeremy Chadwick wrote this

Re: Cable internet

2006-10-17 Thread Bill Hacker
Bryan Berch wrote: It is about I get rid of dial-up and get something faster. My only other choice is Comcast broadband. My questions are: 1. Has any one used it and is it worth it? 2. What cable modem did you use? Thanks Bryan I've used Motorola on three different providers and

Re: Cable internet

2006-10-18 Thread Bill Hacker
David Cuthbert wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: Caveat: Use some other mx for your e-mail, not comcast. Our MX'en blacklist all of comcast, as they do nothing useful to block outbound to port 25, and are *infested* with Win-Zombies. I'm puzzled. Why block the Comcast SMTP server instead

Re: Xen vs VMware

2006-10-18 Thread Bill Hacker
Steve Mynott wrote: On 10/18/06, Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Generally speaking I prefer the VMWare concept over the Xen concept. Xen actually has to run two operating systems, one serving as the master and the other as the 'guest' OS, and this compounds the number

Re: [OT] Bonehead DNS question

2006-10-19 Thread Bill Hacker
JB wrote: This got a bit long. My apologies to those not interested. In [EMAIL PROTECTED], walt [EMAIL PROTECTED] shouted to everyone in earshot, Using a packet sniffer, I can see that my server fetches the names of at least four backup servers at BBC -- but then my server insists on

Re: Please help with NAT

2006-10-19 Thread Bill Hacker
Gergo Szakal wrote: Damn, sent too soon. :-) So it has altq. other undocumented feature is filtering by uid/gid (many people don't know about this hence they don't switch to pf from ipfw). That sounds good until I recall writing high-speed driver code (machine, asm, Forth) and shudder to

Re: Postgres81 and Tsearch2?

2006-10-20 Thread Bill Hacker
Petr Janda wrote: Hey, Does anyone know how to enable Tsearch2 full-indexing for postgresql-81? Cheers, Petr Google turns up a tarball to backport it from 8.2 to 8.1: http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/gist/tsearch/V2/

Re: help over rsync vs cvsupd perfmance

2006-12-31 Thread Bill Hacker
Justin C. Sherrill wrote: On Sat, December 30, 2006 2:22 pm, Saverio Iacovelli wrote: I have two questions about benchmark: 1) Must I use tools to measure net performance during updating operation with cvsup or rsync? 2) What are important informations which I must to weigh? What are

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-01 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: :Besides the finalization of vkernel, what else can we expect into 2.0? There are many long-awaited (not only by me) features and additions: :- ZFS I am seriously considering our options with regards to ZFS or a ZFS-like filesystem. We clearly need something to

Re: vkernel migration

2007-02-01 Thread Bill Hacker
Nigel Weeks wrote: Just an idea for thought over your next coffee... I'm if it would be to conceivably possible to move a vkernel process(and any sub-processes it had) to another host? It'd have to stop temporarily, or at least, slow down immensely while pumping all the userland data inside the

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-01 Thread Bill Hacker
Chris Csanady wrote: very well-thought-out post in re ZFS. Thanks! I'd only add that porting one or more 'foreign' fs in general seem to be a good idea - it is bound to show up things not yet covered well. In all of the published comparison tests, I have never seen a single 'always best' fs

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-18 Thread Bill Hacker
this anyway?' Bill Hacker

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Hacker
Robert Luciani wrote: *snip* (clustering discussion..) Jokingly: I think the notion of functional individual computers helping each other out sounds a bit like neourons in a brain. The technological singularity is coming, nothing can stop it! Oddly, they *are* - but not in the way

Gcc-ada errata?

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Hacker
error: unexpected *** Error code 2 Stop. bmake: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/lang/gcc34 *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/lang/gcc34 *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/lang/gcc34-ada Bill Hacker

Re: Installing Dragonfly 1.8 hangs BIOS completly

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Hacker
Michael Neumann wrote: Hi, Just a few minutes ago, I installed Dragonfly 1.8 onto my laptop. Then I rebooted, and the BIOS hung up completely after showing that it detected the harddisk and cdrom. I powered down and tried again, but that didn't worked either. I couldn't even boot a CD or

Re: Gcc-ada errata?

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Hacker
walt wrote: On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Bill Hacker wrote: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:34:37 +0800 From: Bill Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: dragonfly.users Subject: Gcc-ada errata? Anyone seen this (DFLY 1.8 REL, Celeron 1 GHz, 512MB SDRAM, IBM/Hitachi PATA 20GB HDD): = # cd /usr/pkgsrc

Re: Gcc-ada errata?

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Hacker
walt wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: . Joy! gcc 4.0 and later should be OK as-is? Well, corecode has imported just the bare-nekkid gcc/g++ parts, not the fancy stuff like ada. But -- maybe the native ada-4.1.2 code will compile without a bootstrap ada compiler, dunno. === From the DFLY

Re: Native jdk build - success

2007-02-20 Thread Bill Hacker
Francois Tigeot wrote: Hi, Today, I finally succeeded in building a native version of wip/jdk14. The big difference with my previous attempts was the DragonFly version: 1.4.5-RELEASE So, we have: 1.4.5 = success 1.6.2 = failure 1.8.0 = failure No matter what version of the pkgsrc system I

Re: 1.8.x: fdisk and disklabel fails to operate disk

2007-02-24 Thread Bill Hacker
Tero Mäntyvaara wrote: Hi! I have used Linux. I managed to install 1.8.x to my system (in one drive) and it boot as I expected. I headed to make my hard drive mirrored, 'Mirrored' by which means, of the several available? i.e. - are you on 'raw' ata / nata, 'psuedo-RAID' ata controller,

Re: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-09 Thread Bill Hacker
Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 01:28:10AM +, Helge Rohde wrote: Yeah, i would have thought so too. But apparently they do bend their rules when the see the need, atleast in Germany they *can* put you into jail until you tell them the passphrase and i have heard similar

Re: To be a new DFly commiter

2007-03-18 Thread Bill Hacker
Michel Talon wrote: *trimmed* work, and in particular they have understood the obvious, that is a ports system must be centered about binary packages, not recompiling source. This is true for at least two reasons: - first, today users don't want to lose time compiling Often true.

Re: Anyone got a trailer I can borrow?

2007-03-20 Thread Bill Hacker
Nigel Weeks wrote: Just wondering if DragonFly will ever support UltraSPARC platforms? It's a silly question, as I already know it depends entirely on manpower, but have a look at what showed up on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=220092087657 26 processors, 26GB ram,

Re: Need Reassurance for using DragonFly for Prodduction

2007-04-08 Thread Bill Hacker
Siju George wrote: *snip* Does it run quite Well on Intel's Core2Duo 1.8 Runs fine here on Core-D, both dual single core, 2.8 3.0 GHz, tested with 1 GB SDRAM, DDR 266, 2 GB DDR2 @ 800 MHz fsb. Tyan, Asus, MSi, et al. Should be no problem on Core-2 Duo 1024 MHz fsb with commodity

Re: rebuild DragonFly using gcc 4.1

2007-05-05 Thread Bill Hacker
are probably not needed for your project at all *unless* their newest features - not just Gcc 4.x - are specifically part of the project itself. HTH, Bill Hacker and Trevor Kendall advised this: If you are using 1.8.x: In /etc/make.conf uncomment WANT_GCC41=yes and rebuild. If you

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/disk/fd fd.c fdc.h

2007-05-22 Thread Bill Hacker
Petr Janda wrote: Matt Emmerton wrote: You may be interested to know that my primary DFly development machine is an AMD Sempron-based system with a BIOS date of late 2004. This machine could hardly be considered ancient, but yet it has ISA slots and numerous other devices that rely on the

Re: tty/pty/console wish

2007-06-05 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: I think the last time I used screen was 20 years ago. I just leave all my xterms open. Sometimes I have upwards of 30 windows open across four virtual screens in X. When people were describing the NATA bugs I had an xterm open in an unsaved vi for over a

Re: Weird issues with fdisk/dd

2007-06-08 Thread Bill Hacker
Joe Holden wrote: Matthew Dillon wrote: What are you running, the 1.8 release or 1.9 development? There are some very major differences in how storage is handled between the two. It kinda looks like you are running 1.9. I am indeed running 1.9. For 1.9 you are going to have

Re: Adding ad[4-6]s* to default devices

2007-10-28 Thread Bill Hacker
Chris Turner wrote: Any thoughts? More systems are coming out with 2 controllers - a PATA and a SATA, and as a result there might be more users using ad4 and so on.. Three or more is becoming more common now. - legacy IDE / PATA in bridge chipset - vanilla as to (emulated) bus, addr, etc.

Re: Qemu running on DragonFly

2007-12-02 Thread Bill Hacker
bridge0 up qemu -net nic -net tap,ifname=tap2,script=no -hda diskfile.img -m 256 -localtime Thank you for that! Bill Hacker

Re: renaming the current working directory (cwd)

2008-01-11 Thread Bill Hacker
Vincent wrote: Hi. If my cwd gets renamed by another process, it disappears out from under me. To reproduce: $ mkdir zzz1 $ cd zzz1 In another shell: $ mv zzz1 zzz2 Back in the first shell: $ ls ls: .: No such file or directory $ cd .. cd: no such file or directory: .. This seems to be

Re: renaming the current working directory (cwd)

2008-01-12 Thread Bill Hacker
Vincent Stemen wrote: On 2008-01-12, Bill Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent wrote: Hi. If my cwd gets renamed by another process, it disappears out from under me. To reproduce: $ mkdir zzz1 $ cd zzz1 In another shell: $ mv zzz1 zzz2 Back in the first shell: $ ls ls

Re: renaming the current working directory (cwd)

2008-01-12 Thread Bill Hacker
Vincent Stemen wrote: *snip* the name to stay the same, not just the inode. I also verified it was not a characteristic of the specific shell. I got the same behavior in Zshell as well as sh. I overlooked that, but I don't *think* the shell makes a difference on this issue. FWIW - I

Futures - HAMMER comparison testing?

2008-01-14 Thread Bill Hacker
], or are there benchmarks already appropriate? Bill Hacker [1] I don't know that ZFS *inherently* plays in the cluster yet - but Lustre was allegedly purchased in order to be worked in with ZFS so... 'maybe soon'. [2] Tracking ZFS from mailing lists gives me the impression that is has been

Re: USB stack

2008-01-16 Thread Bill Hacker
Hasso Tepper wrote: Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Then devices should be probed and if there is a better match than ugen and if the ugen device is not open, it should be detached from ugen and attached to the new driver. Do you think this would be possible? There is a lot of things that

Re: Futures - HAMMER comparison testing?

2008-01-17 Thread Bill Hacker
Michael Neumann wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: I'm guessing it will be a while yet before HAMMER is ready for this, but it seems to be moving fast - and cleanly - so... Sorry to hijack this thread. Just wanna mention a little write down of mine about HammerFS features (and sometimes comparing

Re: Futures - HAMMER comparison testing?

2008-01-17 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: :Sorry to hijack this thread. Not to worry! It was *intended* to be 'hijacked'. Welcome! Just wanna mention a little write down of :mine about HammerFS features (and sometimes comparing it with ZFS): : :http://www.ntecs.de/blog/articles/2008/01/17/zfs-vs-hammerfs :

Re: Futures - HAMMER comparison testing?

2008-01-18 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: :But - at the end of the day - how much [extra?] on-disk space will be :needed to insure mount 'as-of' is 'good enough' for some realisitic span :(a week?, a month?)? 'Forever' may be too much to ask. The amount of disk needed is precisely the same as the amount of

Re: cvsup

2008-01-18 Thread Bill Hacker
Vincent Stemen wrote: *snip* Unless I am overlooking something obvious, It is not likely so many projects would be using cvsup for as long as they have if the rsync advantage was that great, or that simple [1]. Have you: A) compared the loads and bandwidth as well as the time on BOTH

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: People shouldn't worry about server side overhead all that much. Cpu cycles are cheap and the cvs tree is completely cached in memory anyway. And the only effect that extra network bandwidth has is that it takes a little longer to run the operation. Now,

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Matthew Dillon wrote: One of the original reasons for using cvsup was so people could maintain local branches of the repository. I don't think people do this much anymore, if they do it all. Disk space is so cheap these days that keeping a master

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