On 06/02/13 07:32, John Marino wrote:
The bigger question, of course, is *why* pkgsrc users are likely to build from source?
Could it be that they had lots of issues with that in the past? Who wouldn't want
something fast and quick if it were trustworthy? The indication alone is
telling.
On Sun, 2 Jun 2013, John Marino wrote:
Except you can't mix these systems.
This is misleading. If pkgsrc does not work when dports is used, then it
is a bug and should be fixed. Pkgsrc is designed to work when other
software is installed.
And if some are already using pkgsrc (with their
On 6/3/2013 14:48, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jun 2013, John Marino wrote:
Except you can't mix these systems.
This is misleading. If pkgsrc does not work when dports is used, then it
is a bug and should be fixed. Pkgsrc is designed to work when other
software is installed.
I've been
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:07 AM, John Marino dragonfly...@marino.st wrote:
On 6/3/2013 14:48, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jun 2013, John Marino wrote:
Theoretically the pkgsrc binary users are stuck on a version until a new
branch is built which normally coincides with a new release.
John Marino wrote:
On 6/1/2013 13:13, Chris Turner wrote:
On 05/30/13 01:59, Francois Tigeot wrote:
The pkgsrc trend is reinforced though, almost nobody downloads pkgsrc
packages.
This could be an indication that pkgsrc users are more likely
to build from source
Since Francois is saying
On Monday, June 03, 2013 07:48:07 Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
Is there an audience of pkgsrc users that use pkgin?
I do.
Pierre
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On 6/1/2013 13:13, Chris Turner wrote:
On 05/30/13 01:59, Francois Tigeot wrote:
The pkgsrc trend is reinforced though, almost nobody downloads pkgsrc
packages.
This could be an indication that pkgsrc users are more likely
to build from source
Since Francois is saying that pre-building
On 02.06.2013 16:32, John Marino wrote:
On 6/1/2013 13:13, Chris Turner wrote:
On 05/30/13 01:59, Francois Tigeot wrote:
The pkgsrc trend is reinforced though, almost nobody downloads pkgsrc
packages.
This could be an indication that pkgsrc users are more likely
to build from source
Since
On Sun, Jun 02, 2013 at 11:42:54AM -0400, Justin Sherrill wrote:
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 8:32 AM, John Marino dragonfly...@marino.st wrote:
The bigger question, of course, is *why* pkgsrc users are likely to build
from source? Could it be that they had lots of issues with that in the
On Sunday, June 02, 2013 14:32:44 John Marino wrote:
The bigger question, of course, is *why* pkgsrc users are likely to
build from source? Could it be that they had lots of issues with that
in the past? Who wouldn't want something fast and quick if it were
trustworthy? The indication alone
On 05/30/13 01:59, Francois Tigeot wrote:
In contrast to the first statistics from one week after the 3.4 release,
even more people seem to continue to use 32-bit systems.
This to me shows 32 bit users are more conservative
The pkgsrc trend is reinforced though, almost nobody downloads
On 5/7/2013 22:55, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
Less then 5% actually. I'm running my desktop with 567 installed
packages of which only 10 really require GCC to build (cd /usr/ports;
pkg query %o | sed 's|$|/Makefile|' | xargs -n1 grep -H USE_GCC | wc
-l). I have extra 6 overrides in configuration
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Francois Tigeot ftig...@wolfpond.org wrote:
* 98.55% of downloaded packages are pkgng/dports versions
This is going to be skewed to some extent because someone using pkgsrc
is probably not starting from scratch. A dports user will be
downloading everything, and
On 5/6/2013 14:52, Petr Janda wrote:
Now, the _very_ interesting (and unexpected) part is the less than 2% pkgsrc
packages usage.
Maybe it's just that pkgng is so much better, maybe it's that pkgsrc users
prefer to build software from source. Difficult to know.
In any case, I don't see a reason
On 5/6/2013 15:20, John Marino wrote:
On 5/6/2013 14:52, Petr Janda wrote:
Now, the _very_ interesting (and unexpected) part is the less than 2%
pkgsrc
packages usage.
Maybe it's just that pkgng is so much better, maybe it's that pkgsrc
users
prefer to build software from source. Difficult to
On Monday, May 06, 2013 14:13:59 Francois Tigeot wrote:
Now, the _very_ interesting (and unexpected) part is the less than 2% pkgsrc
packages usage.
Maybe it's just that pkgng is so much better, maybe it's that pkgsrc users
prefer to build software from source. Difficult to know.
In any
On 5/6/2013 18:58, Freddie Cash wrote:
Clang is the default compiler for FreeBSD 10, and pkgng is the default
package management tool as well. Thus, all packages for FreeBSD 10 are
built using Clang, in pkgng format.
No, not thus.
Clang is the compiler for base and world. There's no
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 11:27:47AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote:
On Monday, May 06, 2013 14:13:59 Francois Tigeot wrote:
Now, the _very_ interesting (and unexpected) part is the less than 2% pkgsrc
packages usage.
Maybe it's just that pkgng is so much better, maybe it's that pkgsrc users
On Monday, May 06, 2013 19:34:05 Francois Tigeot wrote:
And now that there are DragonFly-3.4 pkgsrc packages, do you use them ?
They weren't available (as far as I know) when I started upgrading the
packages, but I will use them now. I am keeping the old Postfix package in case
there is a bug
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:13 AM, Francois Tigeot ftig...@wolfpond.org wrote:
* 3436 pkgng/dports x86:32 downloads
* 14223 pkgng/dports x86:64 downloads
These are interesting numbers. It would be even more cool, if the 32-bit
versions could be broken down into can't run x64 and can run, but
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