[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-30 Thread Maurice
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:57:05 +0100, Brian Barker wrote: If you want to make life easier, it may be useful to leave an empty paragraph before using the three-symbol technique to create a border. Then the border is attached to a further empty paragraph and will be very much easier to delete if

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-30 Thread Brian Barker
At 17:07 30/06/2013 +, Maurice Noname wrote: On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:57:05 +0100, Brian Barker wrote: If you want to make life easier, it may be useful to leave an empty paragraph before using the three-symbol technique to create a border. Then the border is attached to a further empty

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-29 Thread Maurice
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:44:49 +0100, Brian Barker wrote: you will see one of a variety of borders attached to the preceding paragraph. This line is a property of that paragraph, not an entity by itself My problem with those is they seem impossible to delete! -- /\/\aurice -- To

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-29 Thread V Stuart Foote
@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:44:49 +0100, Brian Barker wrote: you will see one of a variety of borders attached to the preceding paragraph. This line is a property of that paragraph, not an entity by itself My

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-29 Thread Brian Barker
At 15:33 29/06/2013 +, Maurice Noname wrote: On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:44:49 +0100, Brian Barker wrote: you will see one of a variety of borders attached to the preceding paragraph. This line is a property of that paragraph, not an entity by itself My problem with those is they seem

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-29 Thread Denis J Navas
The style 'horizontal line' does exist. It format a paragraph with a double line of 0.3 pt height (or depth). You can modify the width to 3.05 pt to have a nice double horizontal line, coloured grey. If we use '---' or '___' or '~~~ will get wider lines, of grey color. Of course, this is

Triaging Competition, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-16 Thread Tom Davies
@gmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013, 17:54 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-15 Thread Tinkerer
When I want to draw horizontal line I use: Automatic lines in Writer 1. If you start a new line in a Writer text document by typing three or more hyphen characters and press the Enter key, the characters are removed and the previous paragraph gets a line as a bottom border. To create a single

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-14 Thread Tom Davies
-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing On 6/13/13 5:12 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Hmm, there are many reasons for preferring non-MS.  Backwards compatibility is just 1 of the issues.  Current compatibility with it's own current formats is another.  A third is whether

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-14 Thread Ken Springer
Hi, Tom, :-) On 6/14/13 5:46 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) You are making it sound more complicated than it really is. No, not really. Maurice's point is the abandonment of the horizontal rule breaks his older documents. Readable or not. Steve's point is the breaking of old documents by

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-14 Thread Joel Madero
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) It would be really great if more of us could learn how to mark as duplicate and other triaging stuff. Even just a few people here learnt what is in some of those drop-downs that would be good. I'm completely

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-14 Thread Maurice Batey
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 12:33:14 -0700, V Stuart Foote wrote: I have started a UX-Advise thread on design review of how Horizontal Rulers can be reintroduced to the Writer GUI. Great news, Stuart! Good hunting -- /\/\aurice -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-13 Thread Maurice
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:07:53 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Feel free to post a bug-report or wish-list item about it https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport There might already be one Could not see one - but there is one (53852) asking for an improvement to the now omitted function! (Last

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-13 Thread V Stuart Foote
Maurice, Simply reopen issue fdo#60858 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60858 , but you will need to make a strong case from a UX position as to why a horizontal rule direct style object is needed. Also, HTML styles and direct editing still support use of HR or HR / tagging so the

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-13 Thread V Stuart Foote
I've gone ahead and reopened the fdo#60858 bug. But, is it a regression or a needed enhancement? In either case, please make your usage case for needing horizontal rule as separators. Should address both direct styling (i.e. from the menu) as well as page styling (i.e. the horizontal rule

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-13 Thread Maurice Batey
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:32:49 +, Maurice wrote: I shall raise a bug report. Now raised, but I still don't have a bug report number. The gist of it is that the omission* of the Horizontal Rule option has created a problem for documents that already have such lines, i.e. it was an

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-13 Thread V Stuart Foote
Maurice, Your bug was fdo#65719 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65719 but that has been consolidated as a duplicate of fdo#60858 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60858 . Please comment against fdo#60858 Stuart -- View this message in context:

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-13 Thread Maurice Batey
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:45:40 +0100, I wrote: I still don't have a bug report number. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65719 (Marked as a duplicate of : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60858 -- /\/\aurice -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-13 Thread V Stuart Foote
I have started a UX-Advise thread on design review of how Horizontal Rulers can be reintroduced to the Writer GUI. How-to-provide-horizontal-rule-paragraph-separators http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/How-to-provide-horizontal-rule-paragraph-separators-tp4061353.html Stuart -- View this

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-13 Thread Tom Davies
for all his work.  Regards from Tom :)  From: Maurice Batey maur...@bcs.org.uk To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013, 20:01 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:45

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-13 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/13/13 3:10 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote: On 2013-06-14 02:48, Maurice Batey wrote: Having installed Mageia-3 on a trial basis, I have come across an omission in its LO 4.0.3.3 that I have been using on Mageia-2's LO 3.5.7.2, namely 'Insert: Horizontal rule' The result is that any document

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-13 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/13/13 5:12 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Hmm, there are many reasons for preferring non-MS. Backwards compatibility is just 1 of the issues. Current compatibility with it's own current formats is another. A third is whether it's current formats work with non-MS products that do follow