[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
We all have had favorite packages for doing documentation over the years. I am an avid user for LO, but I remember the days before LO/OOo came out. I used different packages for different applications, and use MSO only when I had to. I use to use word processors that looked more like text

[libreoffice-users] Re: Insert/Overwrite in Status Bar

2013-11-03 Thread Tinkerer
I do not look at either. I am one of those poor unfortunates who still have to look at the keyboard. Tink. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Insert-Overwrite-in-Status-Bar-tp4081011p4081116.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --

Re: [libreoffice-users] Save as html file [UPDATE]

2013-11-03 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz
(2013/10/30 21:27), Virgil Arrington wrote: Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Good evening from Japan Maybe I did ask a similar question before ... I wrote a book using Writer which I am now trying to upload to Kindle. The instructions say, I must save the file as html and then create a zip file from

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Ken, Le Sat, 02 Nov 2013 09:07:57 -0600, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com a écrit : On 11/2/13 3:48 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Le Fri, 1 Nov 2013 22:59:33 +, e-letter inp...@gmail.com a écrit : On 01/11/2013, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread Paul
Hi Ken, Let's start with some general points to start with. First, the user. For most home users, who probably are not as experienced or knowledgeable of Word and LO as you and I, the advanced features are not needed. So something simpler to use, like Kingsoft Office Free, are more

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread Valter Mura
In data sabato 2 novembre 2013 17:11:55, Fred James ha scritto: Urmas wrote: Jay Lozier: Microsoft did not develop the first office productivity packages. There were no 'office packages' before Microsoft Office. Several predated any MS offerings and were available before the IBM-PC

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread Valter Mura
In data sabato 2 novembre 2013 17:38:27, Jay Lozier ha scritto: On Sat, 2013-11-02 at 15:20 -0400, James Knott wrote: Urmas wrote: Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft Office? Microsoft mostly. IIRC, they bought what became Excel and I believe

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread P NIKOLIC
On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 03:57:16 +0700 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: Jay Lozier: They didn't design the first, but they have designed the best. You trying to be funny read some spam before now but that take the biscuit Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.11.6-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Oct 18

[libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread Ken Springer
Good morning, Charles, On 11/3/13 5:29 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello Ken, Le Sat, 02 Nov 2013 09:07:57 -0600, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com a écrit : On 11/2/13 3:48 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Le Fri, 1 Nov 2013 22:59:33 +, e-letter inp...@gmail.com a écrit : On 01/11/2013,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread jonathon
On 11/03/2013 12:56 PM, Paul wrote: For something more specific: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46986 Working around these issues creates more work for the user than doing the same things in Word. Would you switch

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread James Knott
Valter Mura wrote: Seems to be the same story as Netscape vs. Internet Exploder... oops Explorer... MS was also late to the game for the Internet. Apparenly BG didn't think much of it. IIRC, they bought another app to make IE. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

[libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread Urmas
P NIKOLIC: You trying to be funny Which one is (or was) better then? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette

[libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread Urmas
Charles-H. Schulz: Many people who contribute to the LibreOffice project discussed the need for us to understand how we could enroll regular users (whatever that means) to the LibreOffice project. The LO project is suffering from rock star syndrome: through all those years there is a bunch of

[libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread Urmas
jonathon: That must be a reference to the fact that the mean time between starting MSO on Windows, and seeing the Blue Screen of Death is under sixty seconds. /yawn Or maybe it is a reference to the fact that MSO 2013 is so completely, utterly, and absolutely incompatible with MSO 2013, FUD

[libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread Ken Springer
On 11/3/13 5:56 AM, Paul wrote: Hi Ken, Let's start with some general points to start with. First, the user. For most home users, who probably are not as experienced or knowledgeable of Word and LO as you and I, the advanced features are not needed. So something simpler to use, like

[libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread Ken Springer
On 11/3/13 9:05 AM, Urmas wrote: Charles-H. Schulz: Many people who contribute to the LibreOffice project discussed the need for us to understand how we could enroll regular users (whatever that means) to the LibreOffice project. Just FYI here, I would consider regular users those who still

[libreoffice-users] vlookup with cell reference for range

2013-11-03 Thread yahoo-pier_andreit
using libreoffice Version 4.0:build-305 on my opensuse 12.3 I would like to have a reference in the VLOOKUP function for range: the VLOOKUP formula is: =VLOOKUP(criteria,range,index,sort) if I write the function: =VLOOKUP(1,$A$1:$D$5,2,0) function works but if J1 is $A$1:$D$5 and the formula:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
Sure, LO does not have as many modules as the professional version of MSO. That said, since there are already FOSS packages to do many of those missing modules, why should LO have their developers work on those as well as the basic office suite modules? Word --LO Writer

Re: [libreoffice-users] vlookup with cell reference for range

2013-11-03 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi, Am 03.11.2013 18:19, schrieb yahoo-pier_andreit: the VLOOKUP formula is: =VLOOKUP(criteria,range,index,sort) if I write the function: =VLOOKUP(1,$A$1:$D$5,2,0) function works but if J1 is $A$1:$D$5 and the formula: =VLOOKUP(1,J1,2,0) the formula doesn't works Try the function

[libreoffice-users] Re: vlookup with cell reference for range

2013-11-03 Thread Urmas
yahoo-pier_andreit: but if J1 is $A$1:$D$5 and the formula: =VLOOKUP(1,J1,2,0) the formula doesn't works You probably want INDIRECT function to create a reference from string. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi, Am 03.11.2013 18:36, schrieb Kracked_P_P---webmaster: Access --LO Base Base does not replace Access and it´s not meant to do so. ;-) Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

[libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread Ken Springer
To shorten up this message, I've deleted all but Kracked's reply. On 11/3/13 10:36 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Sure, LO does not have as many modules as the professional version of MSO. That said, since there are already FOSS packages to do many of those missing modules, why should LO

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 11:14:08PM +0700, Urmas wrote: jonathon: That must be a reference to the fact that the mean time between starting MSO on Windows, and seeing the Blue Screen of Death is under sixty seconds. /yawn Or maybe it is a reference to the fact that MSO 2013 is so

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread Upscope
On Saturday, November 02, 2013 12:46:43 PM Urmas wrote: Les Howell: Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft Office? Microsoft mostly. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread Dale Erwin
On 11/2/2013 12:46 AM, Urmas wrote: Les Howell: Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft Office? Microsoft mostly. BS!!! The only thing MS ever developed from scratch without stealing anything was Bob. -- Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread Virgil Arrington
With all of the posts in all of the threads, it is not unusual that things would get confusing. I only point out that I was not the source of the quote in the following email. At this point, I don't know who wrote it. Virgil -Original Message- From: James Knott Sent: Saturday,

[libreoffice-users] Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread Mario Splivalo
Hi, all. Once in the past I stumbled upon a blog where owner explained how one can create a Calc document from the data that's in the XML file. I'm not sure if XML contained only the data which then populated the Calc template, or the whole Calc data was in that XML (not even sure if the source

Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread Paul
Hi Mario, I'm sure others on this list can advise you more completely, but I'll have a quick stab at it. As I understand it, the LO document format is a zipped file consisting of XML files for the contents. One way of doing what you need should be to create a file with the layout you need and

Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Mario, Mario Splivalo schrieb: Hi, all. Once in the past I stumbled upon a blog where owner explained how one can create a Calc document from the data that's in the XML file. I'm not sure if XML contained only the data which then populated the Calc template, or the whole Calc data was in

Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread Les Howell
On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 21:16 +0100, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Mario, Mario Splivalo schrieb: Hi, all. Once in the past I stumbled upon a blog where owner explained how one can create a Calc document from the data that's in the XML file. I'm not sure if XML contained only the data

[libreoffice-users] Re: Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread Urmas
Mario Splivalo: Once in the past I stumbled upon a blog where owner explained how one can create a Calc document from the data that's in the XML file. You may try XSLT to get a Flat ODS file. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread Mario Splivalo
On 11/03/2013 09:13 PM, Paul wrote: Hi Mario, I'm sure others on this list can advise you more completely, but I'll have a quick stab at it. As I understand it, the LO document format is a zipped file consisting of XML files for the contents. One way of doing what you need should be to

Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread Mario Splivalo
On 11/03/2013 09:16 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: I need to create several daily reports on some processes I'm overseeing, and entering all that data into the Calc spreadsheet is cumbersome - the report resembles of a tax-return/invoice sheet, where various fields need to be populated - and I'm

Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread Mario Splivalo
On 11/03/2013 09:20 PM, Les Howell wrote: I have done this for some special logging I do, by simplying creating my own template, saving the data in a csv (comma separated value format) and then loading the data into the template. I do this manually, but a macro could be created to do it as

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread Paul
Hi Ken, Before you can say any program *is* serious competition, you have to determine which products, or product levels, you are going to compare. Office is available in many forms, similar to the different levels of comfort/convenience packages in automobiles. LO comes in just one

Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread Paul
Hi Mario, Sorry, by your description I understood you to mean you *did* want to poke into the ods file directly. I would consider scripting something to create the files automatically the best option, but then again, I'm a programmer, so it would be my first thought :) I see a few possible menu

Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Mario, Mario Splivalo schrieb: On 11/03/2013 09:16 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: I need to create several daily reports on some processes I'm overseeing, and entering all that data into the Calc spreadsheet is cumbersome - the report resembles of a tax-return/invoice sheet, where various

Re: [libreoffice-users] vlookup with cell reference for range

2013-11-03 Thread greg.a.sm...@oracle.com
What I have done that works is first name the region. Then I place the region name in a cell, then us indirect(cell with range name). hth gs On 11/3/2013 11:19 AM, yahoo-pier_andreit wrote: using libreoffice Version 4.0:build-305 on my opensuse 12.3 I would like to have a reference in the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread Mario Splivalo
On 11/03/2013 09:29 PM, Urmas wrote: Mario Splivalo: Once in the past I stumbled upon a blog where owner explained how one can create a Calc document from the data that's in the XML file. You may try XSLT to get a Flat ODS file. Is there a standard library that provides such XSLT

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread Steve Edmonds
Hi. On 2013-11-04 10:40, Mario Splivalo wrote: On 11/03/2013 09:29 PM, Urmas wrote: Mario Splivalo: Once in the past I stumbled upon a blog where owner explained how one can create a Calc document from the data that's in the XML file. You may try XSLT to get a Flat ODS file. Is there a

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Calc fails to load spreadsheets after upgrade to Windows 8.1

2013-11-03 Thread Alan242
Hi Gabriel,   I have LibreOffice 4.1.3.2 Calc opening and printing spreadsheets again a short time ago.  I might have had 2 or 3 problems causing this.  The last problem I solved this afternoon was PDFs did not print.  I found this out using the Gnumeric spreadsheet program which can open .ods

Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 20:47:09 PM +0100, Mario Splivalo wrote: Hi, all. Once in the past I stumbled upon a blog where owner explained how one can create a Calc document from the data that's in the XML file. Hi Mario, not sure if it's **my** blog you stumbled upon, but here it is:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread e-letter
On 03/11/2013, Mario Splivalo ma...@splivalo.hr wrote: Hi, all. Once in the past I stumbled upon a blog where owner explained how one can create a Calc document from the data that's in the XML file. I'm not sure if XML contained only the data which then populated the Calc template, or the

[libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread Ken Springer
Hi, Paul, On 11/3/13 1:53 PM, Paul wrote: Hi Ken, Before you can say any program *is* serious competition, you have to determine which products, or product levels, you are going to compare. Office is available in many forms, similar to the different levels of comfort/convenience packages in

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread jonathon
On 11/03/2013 06:53 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: FUD and absurd statements will take LO nowhere. FUD you say? Pot meet kettle. What he does not want to admit is that I am speaking from personal experience. jonathon * English - detected * English * English javascript:void(0); --

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread jonathon
On 11/03/2013 06:32 PM, Stefan Weigel wrote: Access --LO Base Base does not replace Access and it´s not meant to do so. The dBase 3 clone was not removed when Base was added to LO. I reinstalled LO and AOO earlier this week. When doing my usual customizations, I noticed that

Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread Steve Edmonds
On 2013-11-04 11:57, M. Fioretti wrote: On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 20:47:09 PM +0100, Mario Splivalo wrote: Hi, all. Once in the past I stumbled upon a blog where owner explained how one can create a Calc document from the data that's in the XML file. Hi Mario, not sure if it's **my** blog you

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread jonathon
On 11/03/2013 04:32 PM, Ken Springer wrote: Using a feature by feature comparison, there is no way LO or Kingsoft is serious competition for Office Pro. A point you are missing, is that even in a corporate environment, all of the parts offered by MSO Pro are not needed by all of the employees

[libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

2013-11-03 Thread Ken Springer
On 11/3/13 6:49 PM, jonathon wrote: On 11/03/2013 04:32 PM, Ken Springer wrote: Using a feature by feature comparison, there is no way LO or Kingsoft is serious competition for Office Pro. A point you are missing, is that even in a corporate environment, all of the parts offered by MSO Pro

[libreoffice-users] Pivot table style Pivot Table Field

2013-11-03 Thread LeroyTennison
What does this style apply to, I have determined through experimentation what the other five Pivot Table ... styles apply to but modifying this one doesn't seem to affect anything. -- View this message in context:

[libreoffice-users] Re: Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 03/11/2013 20:47, Mario Splivalo a écrit : Hi Mario, It is unfortunate, but Excel does a far better job of importing/opening random XML files than LO. I download XML files from a public administration I work with, and in Excel I can just open them by double-clicking on them. Excel

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks)

2013-11-03 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 25/10/2013 14:35, Ken Springer a écrit : Hi Ken, I have Mountain Lion installed with two boot partitions. I wonder if, destroying one by Mavericks would also destroy the ability to boot from the other partition. No, it doesn't and this is what saved me in the end. On my Mac mini I had

Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)

2013-11-03 Thread Mario Splivalo
On 11/03/2013 11:57 PM, M. Fioretti wrote: On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 20:47:09 PM +0100, Mario Splivalo wrote: Hi, all. Once in the past I stumbled upon a blog where owner explained how one can create a Calc document from the data that's in the XML file. Hi Mario, not sure if it's **my** blog