[libreoffice-users] Re: Call for testers - automatic migration of embedded hsqldb Base files to embedded Firebird Base files
Alex Thurgood wrote > If the back-out is complete, i.e. master has returned to the previous > status quo, this is unfortunate for those of us who would like to test > whether the migration works and report those issues to bugzilla... The back-out is not complete--and LO base is actually broken judging from last nights tinderbox build [1]. Seems like the Firebird driver support is not being found to drive the migration which is still active. Believe devs are going to have to readjust Firebird to allow us to get back to testing conversion--including new code to "offer" to do the conversion. > Can one still test the automatic migration or not ? At the moment seems not. =-ref-= [1] Version: 6.1.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) Build ID: 55e84652ae84bd2374462ee19afd359a8cc90b95 CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0; UI render: GL; TinderBox: Win-x86_64@42, Branch:master, Time: 2018-04-13_05:08:28 Locale: en-US (en_US); Calc: CL -- Sent from: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Users-f1639498.html -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Call for testers - automatic migration of embedded hsqldb Base files to embedded Firebird Base files
Le 13/04/2018 à 07:09, V Stuart Foote a écrit : > As of this evenings builds of master the FB3 driver is back to > experimental, so Tamás' request for Firebird data testing in Base is on hold > as this gets sorted. > As I understand it, the commit you link to refers to a revert of the removal of support for embedded hsqldb (and the corresponding change to Firebird as default). If the back-out is complete, i.e. master has returned to the previous status quo, this is unfortunate for those of us who would like to test whether the migration works and report those issues to bugzilla... Can one still test the automatic migration or not ? Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Call for testers - automatic migration of embedded hsqldb Base files to embedded Firebird Base files
Italo Vignoli-5 wrote > ... > > So, any "radical" deprecation of features should be evaluated not only > in technical terms, but also in marketing/communication terms. We cannot > get rid of a feature without giving users a reasonable amount of time to > migrate their data (and the fact that they are embedded in the zipped > file is not a solution for most users, who are not even aware that files > are zipped folders which include all document components). Covered at the weekly ESC meeting [1]. With some discussion in gerrit where the commit was backed out [2], and legacy HSQLDB support restored. Seems conversion to Firebird would become optional at 6.1, and new Base data likely being the Firebird engine. As of this evenings builds of master the FB3 driver is back to experimental, so Tamás' request for Firebird data testing in Base is on hold as this gets sorted. =-ref-= [1] http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-minutes-of-ESC-call-td4237769.html [2] https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/52731/ -- Sent from: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Users-f1639498.html -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Call for testers - automatic migration of embedded hsqldb Base files to embedded Firebird Base files
On 12/04/2018 12:22, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > I somehow doubt that this will be seen as a suitably satisfactory > solution for most users... I think that this specific announcement should be evaluated carefully to avoid a disruptive impact on the user base (although the number of Base users is small in comparison with the global number of users, the are people and organizations which do rely on Base for their data). So, any "radical" deprecation of features should be evaluated not only in technical terms, but also in marketing/communication terms. We cannot get rid of a feature without giving users a reasonable amount of time to migrate their data (and the fact that they are embedded in the zipped file is not a solution for most users, who are not even aware that files are zipped folders which include all document components). -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing & PR email italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - skype italovignoli hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Call for testers - automatic migration of embedded hsqldb Base files to embedded Firebird Base files
Le 11/04/2018 à 17:19, Robert Großkopf a écrit : > Hi all, > > have put the content of the mail I wrote to a bug-report: > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 > Thanks Robert. Tamas has indicated on the dev mailing list that the binary content of the hsqldb database remains stored in the ODB: "In the current state, the old HSQLDB data is also kept in the odb file after migration. You can revert the migration by unzipping the odb file and overwriting the URL in content.xml in tag . Besides that, the migration will be permanent only if you save the document and a red circle on the save button indicates that something has been changed." I somehow doubt that this will be seen as a suitably satisfactory solution for most users... Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
