Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Why such large svg files in LibreOffice (Linux)?
Hi :) Thanks :) Without clicking on those links i suspect that the 2 wiki ones https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design are the important ones. The others are probably suggestions that may not have reached the Design Team yet (or they may have been rough drafts that did reach the wiki eventually) Regards from Tom :) From: chimak111 chimak...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2013, 11:32 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Why such large svg files in LibreOffice (Linux)? Tom wrote Hi :) I think the Design Team's mailing list address is des...@global.libreoffice.org... Tom, thanks for your response. I threw libreoffice design team menu icons into a Google search and came up with several useful links which I'm including below: http://user-prompt.com/portfolio/libreoffice/ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/threads.html Plus, there is: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Design-f1935996.html which I'll try at the risk of being ignored. Designers are artists and artists aren't concerned with trivial things such as file sizes ;) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Why-such-large-svg-files-in-LibreOffice-Linux-tp4056944p4057287.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Why such large svg files in LibreOffice (Linux)?
2013/5/22 chimak111 chimak...@gmail.com On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 8:57 PM, M Henri wrote: It is only when we come to the scalable apps, which are saved as .svg files, that we see the sizes you mentioned ; under usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/apps, I find, just as you mentioned, that storing libreoffice-calc.svg requires some 1.3 MB. *My question is - what would happen if the LO apps were simply removed from this folder* ; would that influence use of the programme in any important way ?... Henri Hi, and thank you for confirming what I saw regarding the scalable apps... Now, I did not remove those files. Instead, I made smaller svg files, ~ 700 *bytes* each for base, calc, draw, impress, and writer files and ~ 450 bytes for the start-center-related files. I gave them the corresponding file names and replaced the bloated ones with the smaller ones. And, so far, I can still open LibreOffice just fine. So I still don't know what part those files play and why they're there. If you're interested, here's my replacement code for the calc svg file :) Obviously, it doesn't look the same but it gets the point across ;) svg width=166 height=205 xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; rect ry=9 rx=9 id=svg_21 height=194 width=156 y=5.5 x=5 stroke-width=5 stroke=#91E185 fill=#7f7f7f/ path fill=#91E185 stroke-width=5 d=m83,7l76,1l0,68l-76,-69z id=svg_22 stroke-linejoin=round/ path stroke=#999 id=svg_24 d=m81,5.5l7,-0.5l73.5,67.5l0,7l-81,-74l0.5,0z stroke-width=5 fill=#999/ text font-weight=bold xml:space=preserve text-anchor=middle font-family=Monospace font-size=134 id=svg_1 y=155 x=83 fill=#91E185C/text /svg To view it as an svg file, paste the code into a text editor, and save the file with any prefix but the *suffix must be .svg*. You can then view the file with your default image viewer. Hullo, Hitesh/chimak111 ! And thanks for posting your code for replacing those bloatted .svg files ! The point is, precisely as you write above, that we «still don't know what part those files play and why they're there» - or for that mattter, why they are so large. Hope some knowledgeable user or developer can contribute to our enlightenment !... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Why such large svg files in LibreOffice (Linux)?
2013/5/22 chimak111 chimak...@gmail.com M Henri Day wrote ... Hullo, Hitesh/chimak111 ! And thanks for posting your code for replacing those bloatted .svg files ! The point is, precisely as you write above, that we «still don't know what part those files play and why they're there» - or for that mattter, why they are so large. Hope some knowledgeable user or developer can contribute to our enlightenment !... Henri ... Hi Henri, I've also posted here: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg05867.html That mailing list seems more appropriate. Let us hope someone answers :) In that case, could you please post back to this thread, so that interested parties can see the reply ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Why such large svg files in LibreOffice (Linux)?
Hi :) The linked-to thread seems to only have 1 post? It links to a Nabble thread that also only has 1 post. I think there is a bit of confusion here. Whichever system you use to make posts they all go into the same back-end. Then whichever front-end people use they all get to see all those messages that are stored in the backend. This means you can view the list and post to the list using Nabble as the front-end but people using GMane or normal emails also get to see all those posts (and are able to respond using their front-end). This whole back-end - front-end thing really confuses a lot of people. It's one of the main blockers that prevents people from realising just how much easier it would be to use Base instead of Calc (or Access instead of Excel (if you don't mind the vendor lock-in)) for all sorts of things. Ideally people would use Base instead of Excel, obviously, but that is 2 hurdles to cross. Just lately i got into Ssh'ing and that uses the term server, vs client to mean much the same thing server ~ back-end client ~ front-end Of course it's not quite that simple but it helped me understand it. Regards from Tom :) From: M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com To: chimak111 chimak...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2013, 17:09 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Why such large svg files in LibreOffice (Linux)? 2013/5/22 chimak111 chimak...@gmail.com M Henri Day wrote ... Hullo, Hitesh/chimak111 ! And thanks for posting your code for replacing those bloated .svg files ! The point is, precisely as you write above, that we «still don't know what part those files play and why they're there» - or for that mattter, why they are so large. Hope some knowledgeable user or developer can contribute to our enlightenment !... Henri ... Hi Henri, I've also posted here: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg05867.html That mailing list seems more appropriate. Let us hope someone answers :) In that case, could you please post back to this thread, so that interested parties can see the reply ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted