Re: [libreoffice-users] re. paperless groups ...
good points. I was neither pro- nor con- - merely saw this and thought the list might be interested, or not, in another PR opportunity, or not, ;-) On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I do not understand the reference? Are you saying that TDF/LO should promote the green issues of reducing the consumption of paper in offices? Are you saying that LO will help reduce the amount of paper since the files can be directly exported as PDF files and other electronic formats so you do not need to print and pass paper copied of the documents? Yes, a paper reduction is a good idea but I do not know if that marketing idea is something we want to get involved in promoting, or at least for now. Most office and other packages can have their printing done by using a PDF printing client. CUPS-PDF for Linux and doPDF for Windows. Then you do not need to print to paper to save the documents. Right now, I am promoting LO as a free alternative to MSO. I want to promote the abilities of using a free and open source package and not rely on what type of packages and uses the giants companies tell the users that the user want, and not really asking. LO users ask for what they need and our developers try to provide it. MSO tell users that there is a need for only a few supported languages, while LO is now at about 100 languages and adding more every few months [it seems]. As for paperless, or paper reduction in my home/office. . . . I personally print web pages to PDF before I make a paper copy, since many sites do not print properly and there is a lot of pages printed in the PDF file that does not contain usable information. At that point I only print to paper the pages that has the needed data/information and not waste paper. Also, is there a benefit using LO over MSO for the reduction of paper? Or is it just the user's mindset not to print out everything, every document and its edits, every web page or news article, etc., etc.. On 03/17/2013 10:40 PM, anne-ology wrote: ... just wondering if LO might be more promotable if they joined with this paperless idea ;-) ** The Nitro Blog: We’re tossing paper this year—join us!http://blog.nitropdf.com -- We’re tossing paper this year—join us!http://feedproxy.google.**com/~r/TheNitroPdfBlog/~3/** dkgHEXCqXqo/?utm_source=**feedburnerutm_medium=emailhttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheNitroPdfBlog/~3/dkgHEXCqXqo/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=email Posted: 15 Mar 2013 07:00 AM PDT *Announcing Nitro’s partnership with Paperless2013 * In 2010, the average amount of paper waste generated by each person living in the US was *334 pounds*.1 The average office worker uses *10,000 sheets of copy paper* each year.2 The “paperless office” has remained a fantasy for about 20 years. It’s time to make it a reality and bring these numbers down! That’s why we’re very excited to partner with the Paperless2013 coalitionhttp://www.**paperless2013.org/ http://www.paperless2013.org/ , a group of like-minded companies working to take the “paper” out of paperwork. With our backgroundhttp://blog.**nitropdf.com/2013/01/whats-** preventing-the-paperless-**office/http://blog.nitropdf.com/2013/01/whats-preventing-the-paperless-office/ in digital documents, it’s a no-brainer. Along with the other sponsors http://www.paperless2013.org/**sponsors.phphttp://www.paperless2013.org/sponsors.phpof Paperless2013, like Google Drive, Fujitsu, and Eventbrite, we can offer our users a truly complete solution to help make their lives paperless. In the coming months, we’ll be participating in some exciting promotions to make this dream world a reality. Take the pledgehttp://www.**paperless2013.org/http://www.paperless2013.org/ to go paperless in 2013 by subscribing to the coalition’s monthly newsletter with the latest tips tools, and by following us on Twitterhttps://twitter.com/**Paperless2013https://twitter.com/Paperless2013 and Facebookhttps://www.facebook.**com/Paperless2013https://www.facebook.com/Paperless2013 . 1 American Forest Paper Association 2 US Environmental Protection Agency Related posts: 1. Using Your Print Settings to Save Paperhttp://blog.nitropdf.**com/2008/05/using-your-print-** settings-to-save-paper/http://blog.nitropdf.com/2008/05/using-your-print-settings-to-save-paper/ 2. PDF Annotation Tools: bridging the gap between paper and digital documentshttp://blog.**nitropdf.com/2010/10/**annotation-tools/http://blog.nitropdf.com/2010/10/annotation-tools/ 3. New Year, New Job: Make your resume pop with PDFhttp://blog.nitropdf.com/**2012/01/new-year-new-job-make-** your-resume-pop-with-pdf/http://blog.nitropdf.com/2012/01/new-year-new-job-make-your-resume-pop-with-pdf/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail
Re: [libreoffice-users] re. paperless groups ...
Hi :) From looking at files generated by other people i think it's easier to generate Pdfs in LibreOffice/OpenOffice. From actually playing with various programs they seem to be just as easy but LO/AOO/OOo/and the rest seem to have easier access to more options and better defaults. Regards from Tom :) From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013, 5:57 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] re. paperless groups ... I do not understand the reference? Are you saying that TDF/LO should promote the green issues of reducing the consumption of paper in offices? Are you saying that LO will help reduce the amount of paper since the files can be directly exported as PDF files and other electronic formats so you do not need to print and pass paper copied of the documents? Yes, a paper reduction is a good idea but I do not know if that marketing idea is something we want to get involved in promoting, or at least for now. Most office and other packages can have their printing done by using a PDF printing client. CUPS-PDF for Linux and doPDF for Windows. Then you do not need to print to paper to save the documents. Right now, I am promoting LO as a free alternative to MSO. I want to promote the abilities of using a free and open source package and not rely on what type of packages and uses the giants companies tell the users that the user want, and not really asking. LO users ask for what they need and our developers try to provide it. MSO tell users that there is a need for only a few supported languages, while LO is now at about 100 languages and adding more every few months [it seems]. As for paperless, or paper reduction in my home/office. . . . I personally print web pages to PDF before I make a paper copy, since many sites do not print properly and there is a lot of pages printed in the PDF file that does not contain usable information. At that point I only print to paper the pages that has the needed data/information and not waste paper. Also, is there a benefit using LO over MSO for the reduction of paper? Or is it just the user's mindset not to print out everything, every document and its edits, every web page or news article, etc., etc.. On 03/17/2013 10:40 PM, anne-ology wrote: ... just wondering if LO might be more promotable if they joined with this paperless idea ;-) ** The Nitro Blog: We’re tossing paper this year—join us!http://blog.nitropdf.com -- We’re tossing paper this year—join us!http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheNitroPdfBlog/~3/dkgHEXCqXqo/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=email Posted: 15 Mar 2013 07:00 AM PDT *Announcing Nitro’s partnership with Paperless2013 * In 2010, the average amount of paper waste generated by each person living in the US was *334 pounds*.1 The average office worker uses *10,000 sheets of copy paper* each year.2 The “paperless office” has remained a fantasy for about 20 years. It’s time to make it a reality and bring these numbers down! That’s why we’re very excited to partner with the Paperless2013 coalitionhttp://www.paperless2013.org/, a group of like-minded companies working to take the “paper” out of paperwork. With our backgroundhttp://blog.nitropdf.com/2013/01/whats-preventing-the-paperless-office/in digital documents, it’s a no-brainer. Along with the other sponsors http://www.paperless2013.org/sponsors.phpof Paperless2013, like Google Drive, Fujitsu, and Eventbrite, we can offer our users a truly complete solution to help make their lives paperless. In the coming months, we’ll be participating in some exciting promotions to make this dream world a reality. Take the pledgehttp://www.paperless2013.org/ to go paperless in 2013 by subscribing to the coalition’s monthly newsletter with the latest tips tools, and by following us on Twitterhttps://twitter.com/Paperless2013and Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/Paperless2013. 1 American Forest Paper Association 2 US Environmental Protection Agency Related posts: 1. Using Your Print Settings to Save Paperhttp://blog.nitropdf.com/2008/05/using-your-print-settings-to-save-paper/ 2. PDF Annotation Tools: bridging the gap between paper and digital documentshttp://blog.nitropdf.com/2010/10/annotation-tools/ 3. New Year, New Job: Make your resume pop with PDFhttp://blog.nitropdf.com/2012/01/new-year-new-job-make-your-resume-pop-with-pdf/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail
Re: [libreoffice-users] re. paperless groups ...
Hi :) Errr, this Nitro thing seems to be just a 3rd party product for reading/writing Pdfs, which LibreOffice does very well on it's own. It also seems to be able to take scanned images (Ocr = Optical Character Recognition) and convert into editable Pdfs and allows editing words inside such Pdfs and others. But you have to buy it and there are a LOT of other 3rd party products out there that do the same thing. Foxit for example. Do we know if Nitro is OpenSource or proprietary? Regards from Tom :) From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk To: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013, 15:03 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] re. paperless groups ... Hi :) From looking at files generated by other people i think it's easier to generate Pdfs in LibreOffice/OpenOffice. From actually playing with various programs they seem to be just as easy but LO/AOO/OOo/and the rest seem to have easier access to more options and better defaults. Regards from Tom :) From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013, 5:57 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] re. paperless groups ... I do not understand the reference? Are you saying that TDF/LO should promote the green issues of reducing the consumption of paper in offices? Are you saying that LO will help reduce the amount of paper since the files can be directly exported as PDF files and other electronic formats so you do not need to print and pass paper copied of the documents? Yes, a paper reduction is a good idea but I do not know if that marketing idea is something we want to get involved in promoting, or at least for now. Most office and other packages can have their printing done by using a PDF printing client. CUPS-PDF for Linux and doPDF for Windows. Then you do not need to print to paper to save the documents. Right now, I am promoting LO as a free alternative to MSO. I want to promote the abilities of using a free and open source package and not rely on what type of packages and uses the giants companies tell the users that the user want, and not really asking. LO users ask for what they need and our developers try to provide it. MSO tell users that there is a need for only a few supported languages, while LO is now at about 100 languages and adding more every few months [it seems]. As for paperless, or paper reduction in my home/office. . . . I personally print web pages to PDF before I make a paper copy, since many sites do not print properly and there is a lot of pages printed in the PDF file that does not contain usable information. At that point I only print to paper the pages that has the needed data/information and not waste paper. Also, is there a benefit using LO over MSO for the reduction of paper? Or is it just the user's mindset not to print out everything, every document and its edits, every web page or news article, etc., etc.. On 03/17/2013 10:40 PM, anne-ology wrote: ... just wondering if LO might be more promotable if they joined with this paperless idea ;-) ** The Nitro Blog: We’re tossing paper this year—join us!http://blog.nitropdf.com -- We’re tossing paper this year—join us!http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheNitroPdfBlog/~3/dkgHEXCqXqo/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=email Posted: 15 Mar 2013 07:00 AM PDT *Announcing Nitro’s partnership with Paperless2013 * In 2010, the average amount of paper waste generated by each person living in the US was *334 pounds*.1 The average office worker uses *10,000 sheets of copy paper* each year.2 The “paperless office” has remained a fantasy for about 20 years. It’s time to make it a reality and bring these numbers down! That’s why we’re very excited to partner with the Paperless2013 coalitionhttp://www.paperless2013.org/, a group of like-minded companies working to take the “paper” out of paperwork. With our backgroundhttp://blog.nitropdf.com/2013/01/whats-preventing-the-paperless-office/in digital documents, it’s a no-brainer. Along with the other sponsors http://www.paperless2013.org/sponsors.phpof Paperless2013, like Google Drive, Fujitsu, and Eventbrite, we can offer our users a truly complete solution to help make their lives paperless. In the coming months, we’ll be participating in some exciting promotions to make this dream world a reality. Take the pledgehttp://www.paperless2013.org/ to go paperless in 2013 by subscribing to the coalition’s monthly newsletter with the latest tips tools, and by following us on Twitterhttps://twitter.com/Paperless2013and Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/Paperless2013. 1 American Forest Paper Association 2 US Environmental Protection Agency Related posts: 1
Re: [libreoffice-users] re. paperless groups ...
Export to PDF is easy for LO users, but for Windows users, I always install doPDF as a PDF document printer driver so the other packages can also generate PDF files. I have CUPS-PDF [Linux] and doPDF [Windows] set up as my default printer for every system I own. Then I do not waste paper printing out pages I do not need. Also, having the PDFs in folders for warranty, and other printouts, with the manuals, drivers, and setup files, for my devices [computer and non] works well for me. On 03/18/2013 11:03 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) From looking at files generated by other people i think it's easier to generate Pdfs in LibreOffice/OpenOffice. From actually playing with various programs they seem to be just as easy but LO/AOO/OOo/and the rest seem to have easier access to more options and better defaults. Regards from Tom :) From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013, 5:57 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] re. paperless groups ... I do not understand the reference? Are you saying that TDF/LO should promote the green issues of reducing the consumption of paper in offices? Are you saying that LO will help reduce the amount of paper since the files can be directly exported as PDF files and other electronic formats so you do not need to print and pass paper copied of the documents? Yes, a paper reduction is a good idea but I do not know if that marketing idea is something we want to get involved in promoting, or at least for now. Most office and other packages can have their printing done by using a PDF printing client. CUPS-PDF for Linux and doPDF for Windows. Then you do not need to print to paper to save the documents. Right now, I am promoting LO as a free alternative to MSO. I want to promote the abilities of using a free and open source package and not rely on what type of packages and uses the giants companies tell the users that the user want, and not really asking. LO users ask for what they need and our developers try to provide it. MSO tell users that there is a need for only a few supported languages, while LO is now at about 100 languages and adding more every few months [it seems]. As for paperless, or paper reduction in my home/office. . . . I personally print web pages to PDF before I make a paper copy, since many sites do not print properly and there is a lot of pages printed in the PDF file that does not contain usable information. At that point I only print to paper the pages that has the needed data/information and not waste paper. Also, is there a benefit using LO over MSO for the reduction of paper? Or is it just the user's mindset not to print out everything, every document and its edits, every web page or news article, etc., etc.. On 03/17/2013 10:40 PM, anne-ology wrote: ... just wondering if LO might be more promotable if they joined with this paperless idea ;-) ** The Nitro Blog: We’re tossing paper this year—join us!http://blog.nitropdf.com -- We’re tossing paper this year—join us!http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheNitroPdfBlog/~3/dkgHEXCqXqo/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=email Posted: 15 Mar 2013 07:00 AM PDT *Announcing Nitro’s partnership with Paperless2013 * In 2010, the average amount of paper waste generated by each person living in the US was *334 pounds*.1 The average office worker uses *10,000 sheets of copy paper* each year.2 The “paperless office” has remained a fantasy for about 20 years. It’s time to make it a reality and bring these numbers down! That’s why we’re very excited to partner with the Paperless2013 coalitionhttp://www.paperless2013.org/, a group of like-minded companies working to take the “paper” out of paperwork. With our backgroundhttp://blog.nitropdf.com/2013/01/whats-preventing-the-paperless-office/in digital documents, it’s a no-brainer. Along with the other sponsors http://www.paperless2013.org/sponsors.phpof Paperless2013, like Google Drive, Fujitsu, and Eventbrite, we can offer our users a truly complete solution to help make their lives paperless. In the coming months, we’ll be participating in some exciting promotions to make this dream world a reality. Take the pledgehttp://www.paperless2013.org/ to go paperless in 2013 by subscribing to the coalition’s monthly newsletter with the latest tips tools, and by following us on Twitterhttps://twitter.com/Paperless2013and Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/Paperless2013. 1 American Forest Paper Association 2 US Environmental Protection Agency Related posts: 1. Using Your Print Settings to Save Paperhttp://blog.nitropdf.com/2008/05/using-your-print-settings-to-save-paper/ 2. PDF Annotation Tools: bridging the gap between paper and digital documentshttp://blog.nitropdf.com/2010/10/annotation-tools/ 3. New Year, New Job: Make your resume pop with PDFhttp
Re: [libreoffice-users] re. paperless groups ...
I do not understand the reference? Are you saying that TDF/LO should promote the green issues of reducing the consumption of paper in offices? Are you saying that LO will help reduce the amount of paper since the files can be directly exported as PDF files and other electronic formats so you do not need to print and pass paper copied of the documents? Yes, a paper reduction is a good idea but I do not know if that marketing idea is something we want to get involved in promoting, or at least for now. Most office and other packages can have their printing done by using a PDF printing client. CUPS-PDF for Linux and doPDF for Windows. Then you do not need to print to paper to save the documents. Right now, I am promoting LO as a free alternative to MSO. I want to promote the abilities of using a free and open source package and not rely on what type of packages and uses the giants companies tell the users that the user want, and not really asking. LO users ask for what they need and our developers try to provide it. MSO tell users that there is a need for only a few supported languages, while LO is now at about 100 languages and adding more every few months [it seems]. As for paperless, or paper reduction in my home/office. . . . I personally print web pages to PDF before I make a paper copy, since many sites do not print properly and there is a lot of pages printed in the PDF file that does not contain usable information. At that point I only print to paper the pages that has the needed data/information and not waste paper. Also, is there a benefit using LO over MSO for the reduction of paper? Or is it just the user's mindset not to print out everything, every document and its edits, every web page or news article, etc., etc.. On 03/17/2013 10:40 PM, anne-ology wrote: ... just wondering if LO might be more promotable if they joined with this paperless idea ;-) ** The Nitro Blog: We’re tossing paper this year—join us!http://blog.nitropdf.com -- We’re tossing paper this year—join us!http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheNitroPdfBlog/~3/dkgHEXCqXqo/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=email Posted: 15 Mar 2013 07:00 AM PDT *Announcing Nitro’s partnership with Paperless2013 * In 2010, the average amount of paper waste generated by each person living in the US was *334 pounds*.1 The average office worker uses *10,000 sheets of copy paper* each year.2 The “paperless office” has remained a fantasy for about 20 years. It’s time to make it a reality and bring these numbers down! That’s why we’re very excited to partner with the Paperless2013 coalitionhttp://www.paperless2013.org/, a group of like-minded companies working to take the “paper” out of paperwork. With our backgroundhttp://blog.nitropdf.com/2013/01/whats-preventing-the-paperless-office/in digital documents, it’s a no-brainer. Along with the other sponsors http://www.paperless2013.org/sponsors.phpof Paperless2013, like Google Drive, Fujitsu, and Eventbrite, we can offer our users a truly complete solution to help make their lives paperless. In the coming months, we’ll be participating in some exciting promotions to make this dream world a reality. Take the pledgehttp://www.paperless2013.org/ to go paperless in 2013 by subscribing to the coalition’s monthly newsletter with the latest tips tools, and by following us on Twitterhttps://twitter.com/Paperless2013and Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/Paperless2013. 1 American Forest Paper Association 2 US Environmental Protection Agency Related posts: 1. Using Your Print Settings to Save Paperhttp://blog.nitropdf.com/2008/05/using-your-print-settings-to-save-paper/ 2. PDF Annotation Tools: bridging the gap between paper and digital documentshttp://blog.nitropdf.com/2010/10/annotation-tools/ 3. New Year, New Job: Make your resume pop with PDFhttp://blog.nitropdf.com/2012/01/new-year-new-job-make-your-resume-pop-with-pdf/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
