Re: [dgplug-users] [SUMMERTRAINING] Watch a talk on "The Future of Programming"

[Farhaan Bukhsh]

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Kushal Das  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Here is the link for the talk:
>
> https://vimeo.com/71278954
>
> After you watched the talk, please share your views in the this thread.

Okay first thing first I am huge fan of Bret, his ideas and his thought
process is crazy and out of the box.
For people who don't know about him check out his website[1]. The next
thing is he goes on to talk about
Alan Kay's ideas and the way he approached programming. The funny part is a
lot of us are good programmers but
we think that it is monotonous. Let me tell you programming is an art, the
way you think decides what kind of and what
quality of things you make.

I think we are very reluctant to evolve to accept new ideas, to fail. We
shouldn't be that and I like that about Bret he goes into
the depth of it. More over I love that fact the he started with 1963 and
was trying us to show the picture that we are still stuck back in time.

[1]: worrydream.com
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Re: [dgplug-users] [SUMMERTRAINING] Watch a talk on "The Future of Programming"

[Robin Schubert]

Hi Kushal and all,
I try to resend from Icedove now, maybe there's something not correctly 
configured with my mutt yet.


On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 09:45:30AM +0530, Kushal Das wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Here is the link for the talk:
>
> https://vimeo.com/71278954
>
> After you watched the talk, please share your views in the this thread.

A fantastic talk, thanks for sharing!
Concerning what we've learned so far, I feel like a Dinosaur. The job I 
have right now, I do have it in order to think differently. I do,
however, but I realize how much I'm constraining myself with the 
structure that's given to me. Even though many things Bret Victor talks

about are things I've been looking for before.

I watched this video and immediately went over to the next one about 
dynamic drawing, which is awesome as well. This is hacking in its 
original intention.


Another thought I had; I switched to a completely libre OS now, but I do 
not feel a big difference concerning my freedom. I realize that the
reason for that is, that I'm still not free to change everything to my 
desires, just because my lack of knowledge. True, I do have the chance
to modify the source code, re-compile and be more happy than before with 
my custom feature, but what if I can't understand the source code in
the first place? Richard Stallman calls minified javascript non-free, 
because it's not readible, just like binary code. However, almost every
software code is not readible for someone that can not code (or doesn't 
know the language/module/API/etc). So to create free software, that
is free for every user (not developer), it should be visualized in a 
more intuitive way, ideally independent of the language it gets

interpreted in.

I'll continue watching the other videos, great stuff, maybe even a 
life-changer.


Best regards,
Robin

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