Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Tobias Ringström
On 02/12/2010 08:47 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: I'm trying in vain to get Twinview to work with NVIDIA's proprietary drivers. You know, images that show in a 5x4 format on my Viewsonic monitor showing fullscreen in 5x4 format on my Sony TV and images that are 16x9 filling up all the TV screen.

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Why do people repeatedly get this so wrong?  (Users and those making the systems.)  The pixel count and resolution should be set to match the display card and the monitor, it's the FONT SIZE and graphics sizes that you

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread birger
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 07:39 +0100, Tobias Ringström wrote: Why would anyone even want user specific display settings? Are users expected to move monitors around between logging in? Per user settings might be useful as a feature, but it's a very unfriendly default, or am I missing something?

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread g
Suvayu Ali wrote: So my question is how are hardlinks so different from softlinks? back in 70's when i first started with unix, linking took several times of rereading of manual before i really understood what and why. have a look at these 2 links and see if it clears up for you.

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread birger
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 00:27 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: GnuStep isn't supported on Fedora because of some manner of Political Insanity. Cocoa and GnuStep software is always packaged in small directory trees known as bundles; all of the files that on a traditional *NIX box are

Re: PySolFC-2.0.fc11?

2010-02-12 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:09:40 -0500, Kevin wrote: I see updates for PySolFC-cardsets-2.0 for F11, but no PySolFC-2.0 package? I've left feedback for that in the Fedora Updates System, https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/PySolFC after noticing the issue in the broken deps report.

Hard-Wire GDM X11 Resolution?

2010-02-12 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
I have a problem with my IOGear DVI/USB KVM switch, in which it fails to correctly emulate the connected monitor on DVI ports that aren't selected for display. That is, if my monitor is showing my MacBook Pro's screen, then Fedora gets the wrong display info from the KVM. If it is displaying

Re: Zen kernel, what are advantages if any?

2010-02-12 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Greg Woods wrote: I am not a kernel developer, but I know a little about this indirectly. Whether a project gets accepted into mainline depends on a lot of things, but one of the big ones is how intrusive it is. If it requires changes to many drivers and many places in the kernel, it is much

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Ed Greshko
Marcel Rieux wrote: 2010/2/12 Tobias Ringström tob...@ringis.se: I'm using two 1280x1024 displays rotated 90 degrees with an Nvidia graphics card, and I was very impressed by Fedora 12, because it was the first Fedora release where I could get this setup working without using Nvidia's

Re: Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access

2010-02-12 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Mike McCarty wrote: Can anyone give me advice on how to proceed with diagnostics? Nothing in /var/log/messages? What do you get when running hdparm -t a few times? Stable numbers? -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access

2010-02-12 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
All of the hard drive vendors provide disk drive diagnostic tools, that are able to access vendor-specific - and undocumented - firmware in their drives. This diagnostic firmware is able to diagnose drive hardware problems in a much more thorough way than the vendor-neutral S.M.A.R.T. is able to.

Re: setting up the android SDK on fedora

2010-02-12 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: Robert, On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:  i mentioned this before, but i plan on documenting how to get the android SDK up and running on fedora, and i've started documenting the process

Re: Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access

2010-02-12 Thread Mike McCarty
Alan Cox wrote: /dev/hda5 on / type ext3 (rw) /dev/hdb1 on /home type ext3 (rw) /dev/hda3 on /boot type ext3 (rw) That looks like a truely ancient Fedora ? Yes. You also want to avoid two disks on one cable as the IDE interface only allows one of them to be active at a time so its a good

Re: Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access

2010-02-12 Thread Mike McCarty
Alan Cox wrote: [...] You also want to avoid two disks on one cable as the IDE interface only allows one of them to be active at a time so its a good way to cripple performance. My previous reply may not have been quite motivational enough. There is a physical constraint as to where the

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: What I've been looking for, for a long time, yet am unable to find, is a very large, yet LOW resolution LCD display. What I would like to see are great big fat square sharp pixels, with great big, sharply defined and completely non-antialiased text. if you

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Tom H
A hard link is a directory entry that references an inode. Every property of the file is represented in the inode, including its type, ownership, permissions, size and pointers to the actual data, i.e. the directory entry is simply a (name, inode) pair. As such, there can be multiple

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 07:04:58 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha quix...@dulcineatech.com wrote: Not just no other user, but no other process of any kind - not even your own processes - will be able to locate the deleted files that you are holding open. It will be very difficult for naive

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: The ln -s command requires the path of the file to which the link will point, and the path of the link itself. But it doesn't care one whit whether the linked-to file actually exists. If you can supply a path to it, you could symbolically link to anywhere.

Re: latest F12 quckly unusable after restart

2010-02-12 Thread Tom Diehl
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 20:21 -0800, Ulrich Drepper wrote: Since I updated my F12 workstation on Tuesday (haven't done it for two weeks before that) my machine becomes unusable pretty quickly after every restart. Sometimes after 30 mins, sometimes after

Re: Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access

2010-02-12 Thread Mikkel
On 02/12/2010 05:40 AM, Alan Cox wrote: You also want to avoid two disks on one cable as the IDE interface only allows one of them to be active at a time so its a good way to cripple performance. Dumb question - what happens if you have a slow interface on the CD/DVD drive? Does the driver

Re: latest F12 quckly unusable after restart

2010-02-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:28:01 -0500 (EST) Tom Diehl wrote: KVM seems to aggravate the problem in that if I have virtual machines running the problem happens sooner. IOW I get longer uptimes between lockups if the virt machines are shutdown. I am not sure if that is relevant or not. Just have

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 07:04 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: Actually that is not quite true. A seemingly bizarre and just about always surprising but well-documented and surprisingly useful requirement of UNIX filesystem symantics is that a file does not actually disappear until *two*

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Mikkel
On 02/12/2010 09:29 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: lsof would allow you to find the processes that have the files open. And then you could kill those processes to release the space. It looks like you should be able to get size infomation of these files from lsof as well. So one could script

Re: latest F12 quckly unusable after restart

2010-02-12 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 11:28 -0500, Tom Diehl wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 20:21 -0800, Ulrich Drepper wrote: Since I updated my F12 workstation on Tuesday (haven't done it for two weeks before that) my machine becomes unusable pretty quickly after

Re: latest F12 quckly unusable after restart

2010-02-12 Thread Paolo Galtieri
On 02/12/2010 10:01 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:28:01 -0500 (EST) Tom Diehl wrote: KVM seems to aggravate the problem in that if I have virtual machines running the problem happens sooner. IOW I get longer uptimes between lockups if the virt machines are shutdown. I

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Andrew Haley
On 02/12/2010 12:17 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: What I've been looking for, for a long time, yet am unable to find, is a very large, yet LOW resolution LCD display. What I would like to see are great big fat square sharp pixels, with great big, sharply defined

Re: F12 and SyncMaster 2443 and 1920x1200 resolution?

2010-02-12 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Paul Erickson va...@telus.net writes: Has anyone been able to successfully configure F12 to support 1920x1200 resolution with the Samsung SyncMaster 2443? You might also want to check that your hardware can do 1920x1200. Some chips will stop at 1600x1200. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

Re: compiz click to focus

2010-02-12 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes: Maybe you are seeing this bug? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532229 Could be, but the solution from the bug comments it seemed I needed to install compizconfig-backend-gconf, but that was a big noop. I'm not sure I understand what

expunge in evolution is no longer working

2010-02-12 Thread Aaron Konstam
On my machine expunge in evolution-2.28.2-1.fc12.i686 is no longer working so the deleted messages are building up. What does one do in this case to fix this problem? -- === Make it right before you make it faster.

expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-12 Thread Aaron Konstam
Forwarded Message From: Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net To: users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: expunge in evolution is no longer working Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:00:10 -0600 On my machine expunge in evolution-2.28.2-1.fc12.i686 is no longer working so the deleted

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Marcel Rieux
2010/2/12 Tobias Ringström tob...@ringis.se: On 02/12/2010 08:47 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: I'm trying in vain to get Twinview to work with NVIDIA's proprietary drivers. You know, images that show in a 5x4 format on my Viewsonic monitor showing fullscreen in 5x4 format on my Sony TV and images

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: 2010/2/12 Tobias Ringström tob...@ringis.se: Thanks for the trouble but see my answer to Tobias Ringström. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote: I use the big Dell WFP3008, which doubles up pixels quite nicely to 1280 x 800.  Mind you, are you sure you don't just need new glasses? It's not that I can't focus. It's that I don't want to have to. Focussing all day

F12: Thunderbird account creation problems

2010-02-12 Thread Daniel Thurman
I noticed that Thunderbird has added the smart feature that gets too smart by not allowing one to add accounts for two different servers, serving DNS and Email, and with the same user accounts. For example, let's say that you have MX records: mail1.domain.com (a Windows email system/server)

Re: [389-users] Multiple sync aggrements between Ad and DS?

2010-02-12 Thread Rich Megginson
Theodotos Andreou wrote: Hi Rich, Thanks for the reply! On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 08:19 -0700, Rich Megginson wrote: Theodotos Andreou wrote: Guys I' ve seen this warning on the 8.1 Administration Guide: WARNING There can only be a single sync agreement between the Directory Server

Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication

2010-02-12 Thread Sean Carolan
If you're going to start mixing local and LDAP stuff that way, you're going to run into some fun-to-debug strangeness if you're not careful about them all being identical. Thanks again for your help, I have this working now. I had a comma in my AllowGroups line instead of a space. We're

Converting efax .efx files

2010-02-12 Thread John Poelstra
Has anyone figured out a way to convert the files created by the free faxing services from efax.com (efx format) to another format like PDF or tiff? I'm also trying to run the Windows program provided by efax under wine on Fedora 12 (i686), but the windows installer doesn't finish. John --

Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication

2010-02-12 Thread patrick . morris
Hi Sean! On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Sean Carolan wrote: I have UsePAM turned on, and getent group shows me in the operations group.  I wonder why sshd is not seeing that I'm in the operations group? Ok, never mind. On this particular server there was one entry in /etc/group with my username

Re: expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-12 Thread John Mellor
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 14:08 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: On my machine expunge in evolution-2.28.2-1.fc12.i686 is no longer working so the deleted messages are building up. What does one do in this case to fix this problem? +++ Expunge works in all

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 09:19 AM, Mikkel wrote: On 02/12/2010 09:29 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: lsof would allow you to find the processes that have the files open. And then you could kill those processes to release the space. It looks like you should be able to get size infomation of these

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 12 February 2010 23:40, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 09:19 AM, Mikkel wrote: On 02/12/2010 09:29 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: lsof would allow you to find the processes that have the files open. And then you could kill those processes to release

Re: expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 18:32 -0500, John Mellor wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 14:08 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: On my machine expunge in evolution-2.28.2-1.fc12.i686 is no longer working so the deleted messages are building up. What does one do in this case to fix this problem?

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 06:06 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 07:23:02 Suvayu Ali wrote: $ ln muse test ln: `muse': hard link not allowed for directory So I did a little searching and found its not exactly a forbidden. So far the closest to an understandable

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 15:40 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 09:19 AM, Mikkel wrote: On 02/12/2010 09:29 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: lsof would allow you to find the processes that have the files open. And then you could kill those processes to release the space. It

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 04:07 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 15:40 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 09:19 AM, Mikkel wrote: On 02/12/2010 09:29 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: lsof would allow you to find the processes that have the files open. And

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 04:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 04:07 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Editors can do funny things with backup files in the interests of preserving your work. An easier test would be: cat foo rm foo lsof +L1 -s When I do this the cat process

Re: expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-12 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: BTW the OP didn't say whether his mail is on an IMAP server or not. This could possibly be relevant. poc I doubt it. I'm on POP3 (Google) and I've seen this bug one why or the other since F10... Move emails between

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:02 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 05:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 23:23 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: [...] Okay, I now understand the aspect of . and .. being the only two hardlinks allowed for directories. However in the

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:42 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 04:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 04:07 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Editors can do funny things with backup files in the interests of preserving your work. An easier test would be:

Video Problems In F12

2010-02-12 Thread RGH
With a fresh install (now) of F12, I am having serious video problems, both in text mode and in X. I'm getting all these flashing lines shooting across the screen. It seems like some kind of timing problem, but I did not see this with F11 or any previous version. This was originally with the

Re: expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-12 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 03:31 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: BTW the OP didn't say whether his mail is on an IMAP server or not. This could possibly be relevant. poc I doubt it. I'm on POP3 (Google) and I've seen

error messages from named.

2010-02-12 Thread reg
I have just setup the nameserver (named) in FC11. During the startup of the nameserver (from init.d), there is the error message: the working directory is not writable (I assume this is an error). What is it complaining about (what directory) and should I change some permissions

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread jdow
From: Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, 2010/February/12 16:07 On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 15:40 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 09:19 AM, Mikkel wrote: On 02/12/2010 09:29 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: lsof would allow you to find the processes that have

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 05:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:02 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 05:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 23:23 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: [...] Okay, I now understand the aspect of . and .. being

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:20 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 05:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:42 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 04:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 04:07 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 13 February 2010 00:09:38 Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 06:06 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Now, hard links are not allowed for directories since they would allow for creation of loops (a directory containing itself), which is a Bad Idea, since it breaks recursion.

can I use preupgrade w/out a wired ethernet connection via internet sharing?

2010-02-12 Thread S. Robert Cube
I'm trying to use preupgrade to upgrade my desktop FC10 installation. I only have a wireless network connection available in my apartment. Should I be able to do this via network sharing? IOW, can I connect my desktop to a laptop with a crossover cable, and use the laptop's wireless connection?

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 07:45 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:20 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: $ fg %1 cat foo testing deleted files ^Z [1]+ Stopped cat foo $ lsof +L1 -s COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NLINK NODE NAME cat 3843

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 08:12 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Saturday 13 February 2010 00:09:38 Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 06:06 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Now, hard links are not allowed for directories since they would allow for creation of loops (a directory containing

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread g
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: cat foo rm foo lsof +L1 -s When I do this the cat process shows up (and foo is marked as deleted). You can then reconnect to cat (using fg) and write stuff into the non-existent file. 'cat foo ', will create a file 'foo' in directory and in background,

preupgrade reboot, won't complete upgrade, same old FC, etc: solution

2010-02-12 Thread S. Robert Cube
Multiple threads appear to have run into a similar problem with preupgrade: it seems to run fine, but won't complete the install upon reboot. This might work for you. I'm running a multiboot system, and I have the /boot file on a separate partition. Preupgrade seems to assume you're using the

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread jdow
From: Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, 2010/February/12 20:12 On Saturday 13 February 2010 00:09:38 Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 06:06 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Now, hard links are not allowed for directories since they would allow for creation of loops (a

Re: expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-12 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:28 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 03:31 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: BTW the OP didn't say whether his mail is on an IMAP server or not. This could possibly be relevant.

mcelog error messages.

2010-02-12 Thread reg
On 64bit Fedora 11, I see the error message /etc/cron.hourly/mcelog.cron: mcelog: warning: record length longer than expected. Consider update. hourly. Is there an update for the program /usr/sbin/mcelog somewhere??? I see on google that the record length is 88 rather than

Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication

2010-02-12 Thread patrick . morris
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Sean Carolan wrote: For example, we might have a group called db-ssh that defines a user group allowed to access database servers.  Then we just make sure DB hosts get AllowGroups db-ssh added to their SSH configs.  Plopping a user into the db-ssh group in LDAP then