Re: Rant time: F12 rocks !

2010-01-18 Thread Andrew Haley
On 01/17/2010 08:33 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 14:45 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:18:50 -0700 Linuxguy123 wrote: I can't believe how great everything works these days. You must happen to have a video card that works :-). It's a good result for me: for

Re: chromium issue

2010-01-26 Thread Andrew Haley
On 01/26/2010 06:51 AM, François Patte wrote: What to do? Report the bug to http://code.google.com/p/chromium/ Andrew. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: Difference between g++ and c++?

2010-01-27 Thread Andrew Haley
On 01/27/2010 11:34 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: Maybe for the 64bit binaries, but not for the 32bit binaries: file /usr/bin/g++ /usr/bin/c++ /usr/bin/g++: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, stripped

Re: gdb trouble

2010-01-28 Thread Andrew Haley
On 01/27/2010 08:12 PM, Neal Becker wrote: gdb-7.0.1-29.fc12.x86_64 From time to time, I need to use gdb. Today it's giving me a real hard time. Breakpoint 3, 0x0044f487 in ACMTxboost::random::mersenne_twisterunsigned int, 32, 624, 397, 31, 2567483615u, 11, 7, 2636928640u, 15,

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Andrew Haley
On 02/12/2010 12:17 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: What I've been looking for, for a long time, yet am unable to find, is a very large, yet LOW resolution LCD display. What I would like to see are great big fat square sharp pixels, with great big, sharply defined

Re: abrt + updates-testing

2010-02-17 Thread Andrew Haley
On 02/17/2010 01:37 PM, Neal Becker wrote: What controls where abrt looks for debuginfo? I installed packages from updates-testing, and it seems abrt did not find debuginfo for them. I then tried enabling by default updates-testing-debuginfo in yum config. Then I told abrt to refresh,

Re: Routing problems

2010-02-18 Thread Andrew Haley
On 02/18/2010 10:01 AM, Rick Sewill wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 07:31 +0100, j.halifax . wrote: Hi All, Could you please help me with routing in the LAN default GW box? I have eth0 connected to Internet eth2 to internal LAN 10.255.250.0 LAN default GW is 10.255.250.37 eth3 connected

Re: Routing problems

2010-02-18 Thread Andrew Haley
: 172.17.0.0192.168.180.100 255.255.0.0UG 000 eth3 192.168.0.0 192.168.180.100 255.255.0.0UG 000 eth3. Please post * Full details of your network * The routing table, uncensored Původní zpráva Od: Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com

Re: change HDD without Re-installing Fedora 12 ..!!!!

2010-02-20 Thread Andrew Haley
On 02/20/2010 09:34 AM, Jatin K wrote: On 02/20/2010 03:00 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 02/20/2010 06:46 AM, Jatin K wrote: Dear list I'm using FC 12 x86_64 on my dell vostro 1520 notebook with 160GB hdd installed in it , now I want to upgrade the hdd from 160GB to 320GB 7200 RPM

Re: ssh tunneling client settings

2010-02-24 Thread Andrew Haley
On 02/24/2010 06:23 PM, Christoph Höger wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 24.02.2010, 15:57 + schrieb Andrew Haley: On 02/24/2010 02:41 PM, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi guys, are there any special client settings one needs to have for ssh tunneling? I have the classical setup: machines A1 and A2

Re: Emacs has very large characters

2010-03-01 Thread Andrew Haley
On 03/01/2010 01:16 PM, Chris Rouch wrote: Or use the menus: Options-Set default font. That doesn't work. Try it, then C-x 5 2 . The new window is still in the old font. Andrew. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: rt2860 and Fedora 12 x64?

2010-03-16 Thread Andrew Haley
On 03/15/2010 09:22 PM, Kevin Martin wrote: I've installed a wireless nic that is rt2860 based. I've downloaded, compiled, and installed the latest rt2860koa driver on my Fedora 12 x64 machine. It loads (lsmod shows it), lspci shows that the RealTek nic is using the driver, but I can't get

Re: semantics

2010-04-12 Thread Andrew Haley
On 04/02/2010 02:18 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 23:56 -0600, charles zeitler wrote: Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On 4/1/10, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/02/2010 05:27 AM, charles zeitler wrote: 1) free and open source software

Re: New video card

2010-04-13 Thread Andrew Haley
On 04/13/2010 07:30 PM, Michael Miles wrote: On 04/13/2010 11:08 AM, Sam Sharpe wrote: On 13 April 2010 18:50, Gene Heskettgene.hesk...@verizon.net wrote: Greets all; I have a PNY, PCI-e, GForce 9400 GT card still in the box. What sort of support will it have with the neauvou (sp)

Re: is there an ieee handler in Linux?

2010-04-24 Thread Andrew Haley
On 04/23/2010 08:49 PM, r...@dwf.com wrote: There must be a handler for ieee arithmetic errors under Linux for C and for Fortran, but my search with man and google don't turn up anything. Can someone point me at the correct subroutine names. See fgetenv(3). Here's an example for C. Andrew.

Re: is there an ieee handler in Linux?

2010-04-24 Thread Andrew Haley
On 04/24/2010 10:30 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 04/23/2010 08:49 PM, r...@dwf.com wrote: There must be a handler for ieee arithmetic errors under Linux for C and for Fortran, but my search with man and google don't turn up anything. Can someone point me at the correct subroutine names. See

Screensaver weirdness with nvidia/nouveau

2010-05-19 Thread Andrew Haley
I wonder if anyone else has seen this. This is F12, gnome, nouveau video driver. I have my screensaver setup as Regard computer as idle after 1 minute Power management: Put display to sleep when inactive for 5 minutes Sometimes the screen blanks, sometimes it doesn't. I can't find any real

Re: How does F13 work with nvidia hardware ?

2010-05-27 Thread Andrew Haley
On 05/26/2010 05:37 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: I run the proprietary, closed source nvidia driver in F12. What happens when I upgrade to F13 ? The short answer is that you may have to boot in vesafb mode and install the driver using that. If that doesn't work booting in

Re: How does F13 work with nvidia hardware ?

2010-05-27 Thread Andrew Haley
On 05/27/2010 10:15 AM, Chris Kloiber wrote: nouveau does work fine... If you have one screen, or two screens and like spanning desktops (with the second to the right of the first). If you (like I) prefer separate desktops (so I can put a virtual machine on the second monitor) and the second

Re: Status of SSDs under Fedora ?

2010-06-11 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/10/2010 11:19 PM, Phil Meyer wrote: On 06/10/2010 03:56 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 14:50 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: On 06/10/2010 01:53 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: I'm thinking of getting an Intel 160 GB SSD. How would it work under Linux ? I'm using

Re: Flash 10.1 uses 90%+ CPU

2010-06-11 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/11/2010 11:40 AM, Clodoaldo Neto wrote: For me Flash 10.1 CPU utilization is very intense. Some videos have many dropped frames. Right now this is almost unwatchable with more than 95% CPU utilization: http://worldcup.vevo.com/ This is H.264 video, which is notoriously CPU intensive

Re: Flash 10.1 uses 90%+ CPU

2010-06-11 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/11/2010 01:01 PM, Clodoaldo Neto wrote: 2010/6/11 Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com: On 06/11/2010 11:40 AM, Clodoaldo Neto wrote: For me Flash 10.1 CPU utilization is very intense. Some videos have many dropped frames. Right now this is almost unwatchable with more than 95% CPU utilization

Re: Flash 10.1 uses 90%+ CPU

2010-06-12 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/11/2010 03:16 PM, Clodoaldo Neto wrote: 2010/6/11 Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com: On 06/11/2010 01:01 PM, Clodoaldo Neto wrote: 2010/6/11 Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com: On 06/11/2010 11:40 AM, Clodoaldo Neto wrote: For me Flash 10.1 CPU utilization is very intense. Some videos have many

Re: F13 OpenJDK bugs ?

2010-06-17 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/15/2010 07:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 17:59 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: On 06/15/2010 05:26 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 15:26 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: On 06/15/2010 02:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 12:53

Re: F13 OpenJDK bugs ?

2010-06-17 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/17/2010 10:41 AM, Eric Tanguy wrote: I have also a bug opened against openJDK plugins : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=542318 I'm looking for how to help to solve this one ... I don't think there's anything we can do about that one. We can't fix bugs we can't reproduce.

Re: F13 OpenJDK bugs ?

2010-06-17 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/17/2010 12:21 PM, Eric Tanguy wrote: Le 17/06/2010 11:52, Andrew Haley a écrit : On 06/17/2010 10:41 AM, Eric Tanguy wrote: I have also a bug opened against openJDK plugins : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=542318 I'm looking for how to help to solve this one

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/18/2010 02:00 PM, Kwan Lowe wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Monty wig monty...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gurus, Can someone please point me the right direction on the difference between 32bit and 64bit OS? For almost all situations, I don't see any benefit to staying with 32-bit

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/18/2010 02:51 PM, Kwan Lowe wrote: The areas where 64-bit apps is not a good idea is on some applications, in particular Java-based apps. In most cases that's not really true any more, because of compressed OOPs. I just saw that.. Interesting and looks to eliminate those niche

Re: OpenOffice Crash - bad Java JRE

2010-06-18 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/18/2010 04:14 PM, Smith, Herb wrote: I have a new F13 install, fully updated. OpenOffice crashes saying that the Java JRE is bad and that I should install a new one and point OpenOffice to it. The only JRE that I have on the machine is what came with the F13 install. Is this a

Re: Top posting

2010-06-25 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/25/2010 09:18 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 25 June 2010 12:52 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: If there are posts you don't like think killfile. I keep hearing about this, how does one do that in Thunderbird? ToolsMessage FiltersNew Move message to trash -- users mailing list

Re: Top posting

2010-06-25 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/25/2010 01:50 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 25 June 2010 03:16 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 06/25/2010 09:18 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 25 June 2010 12:52 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: If there are posts you don't like think killfile. I keep hearing about this, how does one do

Re: Gnash cannot play YouTube movies

2010-06-25 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/25/2010 11:49 AM, Paul Smith wrote: On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: I have just installed Gnash on F13 x86_64, but I cannot play YouTube movies on Firefox. Any advice? Use Adobe Flash, gnash hasn't kept pace iirc. Thanks, Frank. I have just

Re: Gnash cannot play YouTube movies

2010-06-25 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/25/2010 02:53 PM, Paul Smith wrote: On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote: I have just installed Gnash on F13 x86_64, but I cannot play YouTube movies on Firefox. Any advice? Use Adobe Flash, gnash hasn't kept pace iirc. Thanks, Frank. I have just found

Re: Top posting

2010-06-30 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/29/2010 07:48 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: Fool. was deliberately ambiguous. That was its point. For goodness' sake, we have enough accidental ambiguousness on this list without people adding it deliberately! Please stop. Andrew. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Who's moderating this forum?

2010-07-18 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/16/2010 06:13 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote: I'm sure plenty of people think it's obvious nonsense. However, moderatiom rules don't forbid nonsense AFAIAA. Absolutely but since this nonsense often degenerates in a flood

Re: Who's moderating this forum?

2010-07-19 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/18/2010 09:48 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote: I think the best way for me to improve this list is to provide help where it's needed and try to avoid tedious arguments. I don't think that anyone made me the hall monitor

Re: X-chat question

2010-07-22 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/22/2010 02:40 PM, Steve Blackwell wrote: I wanted to join an IRC chat on irc.gnome.org so I fired up XChat-GNOME (v0.26.1) and got the list of servers. The problem is irc.gnome.org is not on the list! I was able to get to it by starting Firefox and entering irc://irc.gnome.org in the

Re: X-chat question

2010-07-22 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/22/2010 03:07 PM, Steve Blackwell wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:45:49 +0100 Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/22/2010 02:40 PM, Steve Blackwell wrote: I wanted to join an IRC chat on irc.gnome.org so I fired up XChat-GNOME (v0.26.1) and got the list of servers. The problem

Re: sun jdk vs java-1.6.0-openjdk

2010-07-26 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/25/2010 05:43 AM, Bob Hartung wrote: I have loaded Fedora13 without a hitch and am impressed by the improvements! However, I am just now beginning Java programming and I am wondering if there is any substantial difference between java-1.6.0-openjdk and the sun jdk. They are

Re: selinux throwing incomprehensible errors when trying to run GoogleEardh

2010-07-26 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/26/2010 06:27 AM, Claude Jones wrote: It seems to be saying that the directory access requested requires labeling as usr_t, but its current type is usr_t -- it requires usr_t but it's currently labeled usr_t -- there appears to confusion here on the part of Selinux, no? I've tried

Re: sun jdk vs java-1.6.0-openjdk

2010-07-26 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/26/2010 11:33 AM, Joerg Bergmann wrote: Am 26.07.2010 11:41, schrieb Andrew Haley: On 07/25/2010 05:43 AM, Bob Hartung wrote: I have loaded Fedora13 without a hitch and am impressed by the improvements! However, I am just now beginning Java programming and I am wondering

Re: Blue screen of death

2010-07-27 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/27/2010 04:16 PM, Alex wrote: that's kind of the point of fedora. if you want something stable, use CentOS (or RHEL) or maybe an ubuntu variant. I think the benefits of a cutting edge distro outweigh the drawbacks, but I agree that it is very frustrating when something fundamental stops

Re: Blue screen of death

2010-07-28 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/28/2010 12:12 AM, Alex wrote: Yes, frustrating, particularly when it's one fundamental thing after another, like ethernet detection, printing, and basic networking. Sure, but it works both ways: sometimes getting up-to-date software from upstream fixes bugs that in a more stable distro

Re: Best way to replace a drive with a clone

2010-07-31 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/31/2010 06:59 PM, Steven Stern wrote: According to the SMART stats, the single drive in my Fedora server is starting to fail. Rather than backup, do a clean install, and rebuild, I'd like to try to clone the existing drive to a new one, then swap in the new one. What are the

Re: Best way to replace a drive with a clone

2010-07-31 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/31/2010 08:16 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 07/31/2010 06:59 PM, Steven Stern wrote: According to the SMART stats, the single drive in my Fedora server is starting to fail. Rather than backup, do a clean install, and rebuild, I'd like to try to clone the existing drive to a new one

Re: Updating JRE (Java)

2010-08-03 Thread Andrew Haley
On 08/03/2010 03:31 PM, Deepak Bhole wrote: * Parshwa Murdia b330...@gmail.com [2010-08-03 05:29]: On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Deepak Bhole dbh...@redhat.com wrote: Out of curiosity -- if you don't mind me asking, why do you need the Sun JDK? Does the OpenJDK jre not work for what you are

Re: Updating JRE (Java)

2010-08-03 Thread Andrew Haley
On 08/03/2010 05:33 PM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Deepak Bhole dbh...@redhat.com wrote: * Parshwa Murdia b330...@gmail.com [2010-08-03 05:29]: On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Deepak Bhole dbh...@redhat.com wrote: Out of curiosity -- if you don't mind me asking,

Re: security

2010-08-12 Thread Andrew Haley
On 08/12/2010 01:40 PM, roland wrote: I would like to give someone a login on my server. But, I would like to limit access to his home dir. With Nautilus, Konqueror or from distance with p.e. Winscp, this person could see what he wants and do maybe the unexpected. Can I prevent him from

Re: Selinux beating up on Chromium

2010-08-14 Thread Andrew Haley
On 08/13/2010 09:24 PM, mike cloaked wrote: Has anyone found a solution yet? I'm not sure there's any need for a solution, since Chromium retries without the raw socket. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598796 Andrew. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Is swap really needed when RAM's aplenty

2010-08-20 Thread Andrew Haley
On 08/20/2010 03:36 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 16:15 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, JD wrote: Problem comes as Michael explains, that when a process needs a large physically contiguous chunk of memory, it might not be available. That said, usually,

Re: NetworkManager wont start eth0

2010-09-01 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/01/2010 12:15 PM, William John Murray wrote: I have a problem with my Network Manager. Its been broken for a couple of weeks, not sure when. The computer is static, but I use NM to run the pptp package. However, at the moment if I start NM it has the 'enable networking' box

Re: OT: linux clone() and errno

2010-09-07 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/07/2010 02:33 PM, T. Horsnell wrote: Apologies for the OT query - if you know a better place to ask, please tell me. If I use clone() to create a new thread in a process, the child thread has the same errno as the parent. Is there any way round this, or do I have to move to pthreads?

Re: upgrade gcc on fedora core 4

2010-09-09 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/09/2010 02:38 PM, Rossella Noschese wrote: I've a question. At work we have a fedore core 4 release on a 64-bit machine. We need now to upgrade the compiler. We have GNU Fortran 95 (GCC 4.0.0 20050519 (Red Hat 4.0.0-8)). We need at least gcc version 4.1.2 20071124 (Red Hat 4.1.2-42).

Re: upgrade gcc on fedora core 4

2010-09-10 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/09/2010 07:14 PM, JD wrote: On 09/09/2010 11:01 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 09/09/2010 02:38 PM, Rossella Noschese wrote: I've a question. At work we have a fedore core 4 release on a 64-bit machine. We need now to upgrade the compiler. We have GNU Fortran 95 (GCC 4.0.0 20050519

Re: upgrade gcc on fedora core 4

2010-09-11 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/10/2010 07:55 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:10:56 -0700 JD wrote: If you build it from gnu tarball, then you will not get the fixes that go into it from the community before it is used in a distro. But then, it might give the op what s/he wants. Of course the odds

Re: upgrade gcc on fedora core 4

2010-09-11 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/11/2010 05:24 PM, john wendel wrote: On 09/11/2010 01:33 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 09/10/2010 07:55 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:10:56 -0700 JD wrote: If you build it from gnu tarball, then you will not get the fixes that go into it from the community before

Re: no audio, crappy video

2010-09-14 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/14/2010 05:03 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: I haven't had audio since installing Fedora 13. It's possible that the problem is that I didn't have the speakers plugged in when doing the install. How do I make them work? For a while there was a

Re: VHS-DVD

2010-10-14 Thread Andrew Haley
On 10/14/2010 12:33 PM, Alan Cox wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 06:29:10 -0400 Tod Thomas fr33z...@gmail.com wrote: I remember reading some time ago that VHS was a proprietary standard and without special equipment it was difficult to transfer it to other media. I'm pretty sure I heard

Re: Proprietary or open source NVidia drivers?

2010-10-15 Thread Andrew Haley
On 10/14/2010 12:57 PM, Tim wrote: Geoffrey Leach: H ... I think I understand your problem. However, unless you wish to have the wrath of the Open Source community descend upon your head, Valent Turkovic: What is the wrath of the Open Source community ? ;) Please define this first so

Re: Mplayer equalizer doesn't work

2010-10-29 Thread Andrew Haley
On 10/29/2010 03:26 PM, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 21:06 -0500, D Wyatt wrote: If I wanted everything brighter, then the monitor level would obviously be the place to change settings. If anything, I would be more likely to *lower* the monitor's brightness. Generally, the whole video

Re: Why is Fedora continuing to propagate FF 3.5 on F12?

2010-11-01 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/01/2010 12:11 AM, Chris Smart wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: Afaik, they already are by default turned off. Ahh, well there you go :-) Not sure why Paolo got that update warning then, maybe there's a different setting for major

Re: problem sending/recieving mails

2010-11-02 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/02/2010 10:14 AM, ma...@linuxmail.org wrote: I ave setup a Fedora server as LAN gateway and also as a transparent proxy server but all client passing through that server are enable to send or receive mails. The mail server is hosted on the same LAN running mdaemon, both servers

Re: sun java plugin problem on Fedora 14

2010-11-04 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/04/2010 01:00 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/03/2010 11:49 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: Hopefully this will save other people time: if you can't get the Sun jre java plugin to work after upgrading from F13 to F14, try: setsebool allow_execstack 1 Bad code on Sun's part.

Re: sun java plugin problem on Fedora 14

2010-11-04 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/04/2010 12:33 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: On 11/04/2010 06:39 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: Hopefully this will save other people time: if you can't get the Sun jre java plugin to work after upgrading from F13 to F14, try: setsebool allow_execstack 1 Whoops, there should be a -P

Re: how to generate pi in (bash)

2010-11-09 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/08/2010 09:22 PM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: Hey I love this. Approximating pi by cannonball firing. http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/mathc.html#cannonref When I first saw this, it was throwing darts at a dartboard. But I'm British... Andrew. -- users mailing list

Re: Making space on an EeePC

2010-11-12 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/11/2010 07:16 PM, fred smith wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:58:03AM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: FWIW, I am currently running F13 on a eeepc 901 which, admittedly, has A LOT more disk space,... a 4 gig and a 16 gig SSD. Normal Gnome install, though made from the LIVE cd, and tweaked a

Re: Making space on an EeePC

2010-11-12 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/12/2010 04:38 PM, fred smith wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:41:33AM +, Andrew Haley wrote: On 11/11/2010 07:16 PM, fred smith wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:58:03AM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: FWIW, I am currently running F13 on a eeepc 901 which, admittedly, has A LOT more disk

Re: Building mplayer problems

2010-11-17 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/17/2010 05:05 PM, stan wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:30:39 -0800 JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to build mplayer from source rpm. mplayer-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.src.rpm The build seems to die at the last step of linking all the objects to produce the binary mplayer. The

Re: F14: how do I remove IcedTea plugin from FIreFox?

2010-12-03 Thread Andrew Haley
On 12/03/2010 01:27 AM, Tony Camuso wrote: I have an applet that will not work with IcedTea. This applet is a remote console applet spawned by the HP iLO web interface and is critical for my work. With F13, I was able to successfully install the Oracle jre and soft link the correct plugin.

Re: usb name in /dev

2010-12-15 Thread Andrew Haley
On 12/15/2010 12:23 PM, community help wrote: How can I know the name of my usb key (i have 2 ports, i want to know the name of the one that is pluged in), in the /dev directory. dmesg is probably the easiest. Plug in a usb device, and type dmesg:tail Like this: # dmesg|tail scsi 3:0:0:0:

Re: usb name in /dev

2010-12-15 Thread Andrew Haley
On 12/15/2010 12:51 PM, community help wrote: Hi, here is the output of lsusb Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0b05:170c ASUSTek Computer, Inc. WL-159g Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 002: ID

Re: sage

2010-12-15 Thread Andrew Haley
On 12/15/2010 04:58 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: I understand, but I am trying to install sage-4.6-linux-64bit-fedora_release_13_goddard_-x86_64-Linux.tar.lzma which seems to indicates that this is the right version !! How can I install GLIBCXX_3.4.14 without installing fedora 14 ? I

Re: sage

2010-12-15 Thread Andrew Haley
On 12/15/2010 05:13 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Andrew Haley wrote: On 12/15/2010 04:58 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: I understand, but I am trying to install sage-4.6-linux-64bit-fedora_release_13_goddard_-x86_64-Linux.tar.lzma which seems to indicates that this is the right

Re: About programing, a general question

2010-12-17 Thread Andrew Haley
On 12/17/2010 10:06 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Andras Simonsza...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:24 PM, John Haxbyjohn.ha...@gmail.com wrote: C++ is worse. I don't know but you only (the first person) who said me it is the worse! This shows

Re: Fedora x86_64 14 freeze up or reboot immediately, when running a guest in Virtualbox 3.2 or 4.0

2011-01-06 Thread Andrew Haley
On 01/06/2011 01:00 PM, Benjamin Weißenfels wrote: Fedora x86_64 14 freeze up or reboot immediately, when running Virtualbox 3.2 or 4.0. I have installed the repo from Virtualbox. And now it's the same problem like this guy had: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3t=36406start=15

Re: java problem

2011-01-10 Thread Andrew Haley
On 01/10/2011 07:22 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Peter Larsen plar...@famlarsen.homelinux.com wrote: I wonder what problem is preventing you from simply: yum install @java ?? openjdk/icedtea works fine. We can use either Sun java or the open JDK, but the

Re: Spamassassin behaving strangely

2011-01-13 Thread Andrew Haley
On 01/13/2011 03:41 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Spamassassin has recently started assigning SPAM qualification to perfectly respectable email. What can I do about it? Spamassassin tells you why it classified something in the headers. X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0

Re: 5-star Fedora experience

2011-06-20 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/20/2011 06:35 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 13:20 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: On Sunday, June 19, 2011 10:58:28 AM Fernando Cassia wrote: 73 year olds say how cool? I thought ´cool´ was a 1980s thing (sorry, English is not my native language :) In a local

Re: gnu linux update question

2011-06-28 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/28/2011 04:59 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: It is common knowledge that one does not need to reboot for updates to take effect in GNU Linux. However, in actual practice, this is not so. I could cite many examples, but this should suffice: On Sunday evening, I installed a new

Re: gnu linux update question

2011-06-28 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/28/2011 05:21 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Andrew Haley wrote: How could it be otherwise? If a file has been deleted, the proper thing would be for the running process to read the new copy into memory. That's not always possible. It's certainly not possible if one

Re: More RAM not recognized -

2011-07-29 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/29/2011 04:54 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 29/07/11 11:06, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:38:15 -0400, BG (Bob) wrote: This Dell DM4700 came with 2-256 mb strips, some time ago I added 2-1 gb strips for a total of 2.5 gb. This morning I replaced the 256 mb

Re: More RAM not recognized -

2011-07-29 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/29/2011 05:51 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 29/07/11 12:46, Alan Cox wrote: nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl cid cx That appears to be there ... Thats a 64bit capable processor yes, so you'll be able to run a 64bit kernel on it. Alan Ok, I will stop

Re: emacs won't start unless I speciffy font

2011-08-22 Thread Andrew Haley
On 08/22/2011 12:57 AM, Martín Marqués wrote: I'm trying to start emacs on a fresh F15 install and I get this: $ emacs Font `8x13' is not defined The only posible thing I found is to use --font to specify another font. Any ideas on why this happens? You're probably missing the

Re: emacs won't start unless I speciffy font

2011-08-22 Thread Andrew Haley
On 08/22/2011 12:51 PM, Martín Marqués wrote: 2011/8/22 Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com: On 08/22/2011 12:57 AM, Martín Marqués wrote: I'm trying to start emacs on a fresh F15 install and I get this: $ emacs Font `8x13' is not defined The only posible thing I found is to use --font

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-02 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/02/2011 12:43 PM, Łukasz Jagiełło wrote: 2011/9/2 Amadeus W.M. amadeu...@verizon.net: But it's a sin to take something good - granted, possibly not perfect - and turn it into something unusable for so many people. Why did the UI have to change to something that looks and feels like a

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-02 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/02/2011 05:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 09/02/2011 05:51 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: I hope that the GNOME developers will make good use of this feedback. Since when has there been the slightest sign of the Gnome devs giving a rats ass about what mere users think? I take your point

Re: Who supplies the information to configure Dell keyboards?

2011-09-06 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/06/2011 02:05 AM, nomnex wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:39:05 +0530 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/05/2011 04:13 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 12:27:46 +0200 Alexander Volovics wrote: Why does Fedora lag behind Ubuntu in this regard while usually

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-13 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/12/2011 07:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 09/12/2011 11:05 AM, Frederick N. Brier wrote: Wow. Thank you. I was hesitant to try KDE after reading about 4.x, but XFCE has brought most of the snappiness back to my machine. There's an old trick that most of the early window managers used that

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-26 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora developers have no responsibility to listen to user's complaints. However, the Fedora users provide a service to the

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-27 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/26/2011 11:59 PM, Roger wrote: On 26/09/11 19:38, Andrew Haley wrote: On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora developers have no responsibility to listen

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-27 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/27/2011 12:01 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 09/27/2011 11:59 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 09/26/2011 11:59 PM, Roger wrote: On 26/09/11 19:38, Andrew Haley wrote: On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them free and one

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-28 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/28/2011 03:58 AM, Kernel Guardian wrote: At the end, using of Free Software is liberty/freedom of choice. There are many opportunities: KDE, XFCE, LXDE They have been created as response from people who thought differently. This is a waste of energy, time, resources, even money.

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-28 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/28/2011 11:12 AM, Craig White wrote: Just look at the feedback on the new Macintosh OS X Lion or Windows 8 preview... there is a lot of griping about the changes to the UI. It's certain that regardless of the OS, changes to the UI will always raise a bunch of complaints and the more

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-28 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/28/2011 11:47 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:39:51AM +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: When Linus Torvalds says I want my sane interfaces back. I have yet to meet anybody who likes the unholy mess that is gnome-3 the problem has to be taken seriously. (It's not just

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-28 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/28/2011 12:37 PM, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 11:39 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: On 09/28/2011 11:12 AM, Craig White wrote: Just look at the feedback on the new Macintosh OS X Lion or Windows 8 preview... there is a lot of griping about the changes to the UI. It's certain

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/29/2011 02:02 AM, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 15:15 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: I think you're missing the point. A major goal of any leading-edge distro is to get feedback from users on new features. In other words, getting negative feedback from users isn't a bug, it's

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/29/2011 12:27 PM, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 10:46 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: On 09/29/2011 02:02 AM, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 15:15 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: I think you're missing the point. A major goal of any leading-edge distro is to get feedback

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

2011-10-11 Thread Andrew Haley
On 10/11/2011 02:17 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:09:29 -0500 Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Dienstag, den 11.10.2011, 19:25 +0800 schrieb Ed Greshko: I frankly (no pun intended) don't think Beefy Miracle is a name to be proud of. I do.

Re: Not a good month for computer pioneers

2011-10-28 Thread Andrew Haley
On 10/27/2011 11:52 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: I personally care most about James Gosling, Linus Torvalds, and Mike Cowlishaw, father of Rexx and NetRexx. Inventors of other languages / software that I don´t use, are irrelevant. ;-) Well, McCarthy was one of the designers of ALGOL, and in

Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-04 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/04/2011 02:05 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: I saw messages on the archives stating that OpenJDK 7 would be the default Java for Fedora, such as: http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-devel-list/2011-08/msg01586.html But the features page states that OpenJDK 6 will be the default, which

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