openswan is unusable

2010-10-30 Thread David A. De Graaf
key? Google can't. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines

Re: openswan is unusable

2010-10-30 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 01:45:14PM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:08:38 -0400 David A. De Graaf wrote: Can anyone give a clue how to access this very well hidden private key? Google can't. A substitute for documentation can sometime be found by running the program

DISPLAY is not exported, sometimes

2011-07-23 Thread David A. De Graaf
) The only responder seems to have run out of ideas. Can anyone help? -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us Computers are like airconditioners: They stop working properly if you open windows. -- users mailing list users

Progress?

2011-07-31 Thread David A. De Graaf
the assurance of never having to reboot. Give us back the legendary reliability that was the hallmark of Linux and Fedora. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us If I were two-faced, would I be wearing this one

Re: f14 and xfce 4.8

2011-04-13 Thread David A. De Graaf
pretend to understand why it would or wouldn't. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us A: Because people read from top to bottom Q: Why is top posting bad? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: f14 and xfce 4.8

2011-04-14 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 09:34:13AM +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: On 13/04/11 20:23, suvayu ali wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:10 AM, David A. De Graaf d...@datix.us wrote: I note that a script, /usr/local/bin/touchpadfix: /usr/bin/synclient TapButton1=1 /usr/bin/synclient

Re: how to type special characters?

2012-05-23 Thread David A. De Graaf
| SessionandStartup under ApplicationAutostart to ensure that it runs with startxfce4. It can also be run manually. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

F17 - no network

2012-05-29 Thread David A. De Graaf
loaded? Does anyone have an idea how to dig out? I'm leaving for a trip in three days and need this netbook to work. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us Flint must be an extremely wealthy town: I see that each of you bought

Re: F17 - no network

2012-05-29 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 03:24:26PM -0400, David A. De Graaf wrote: Upon first boot after a fresh installation, there's no network; no way to continue the installation, to say nothing of useability. NEVERMIND!:-) It's fixed. Don't ask me why or how. But grub.cfg was screwed up worse than

Pulseaudio strikes again!

2012-06-26 Thread David A. De Graaf
incantation is now required that I may be permitted to use my x86_64 sound system fully? -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options

Re: Pulseaudio strikes again!

2012-06-27 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 08:24:05PM -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/26/2012 02:22 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: Does anyone know how to allow root and users other than me to use the sound system? Ever since pulseaudio

Installer inadequacies

2013-01-17 Thread David A. De Graaf
: # mount /dev/mapper/f17enc /f17 I don't know yet how to accomplish this automatically on a reboot. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us Having children is like having a bowling alley installed in your brain. -- users

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-18 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 01:26:36PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: David A. De Graaf wrote: Fedora 18. What a disaster! What were they thinking when they threw away a perfectly good installer and inflicted this new User Interface on us? Despite the obstacles presented by the new installer User

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-19 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 05:13:44PM -0500, David A. De Graaf wrote: On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 01:26:36PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: David A. De Graaf wrote: Fedora 18. What a disaster! What were they thinking when they threw away a perfectly good installer and inflicted this new User

Re: Pulseaudio strikes again!

2012-06-29 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:59:30PM -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/27/2012 10:57 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 08:24:05PM -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: You may want to look into running PA as a system

No grub2 menu display; can't boot F17

2012-07-03 Thread David A. De Graaf
contruction of menuitems that cannot possibly work. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. (Pablo Picasso) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: No grub2 menu display; can't boot F17

2012-07-03 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 11:45:06PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 03.07.2012, David A. De Graaf wrote: There are so many major faults with grub2 it's hard to see where to begin. The most egregious are these: [] Do you have any proof for your statements? Yes, as I think I described

Re: No grub2 menu display; can't boot F17

2012-07-04 Thread David A. De Graaf
j...@zeff.us wrote: On 07/03/2012 04:31 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: As I also mentioned, this problem occurs on only one of four machines on which I've installed F17. The other three work properly. There is no difference in the way I installed F17, that I'm

Re: Pulseaudio strikes again!

2012-07-04 Thread David A. De Graaf
With both packages removed, both root and I (and presumeably all users) can generate sounds, including a login tune generated in rc.local. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Euro symbol under Fedora-17/KDE

2012-09-05 Thread David A. De Graaf
, and so on. A comprehensive list can be found in file /usr/share/X11/locale/iso8859-15/Compose -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math. -- users mailing list users

Re: So has anyone gotten their sound to work since it broke a few days ago?

2014-06-02 Thread David A. De Graaf
/rc.local a line like /usr/bin/play /usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Log-In.ogg for a pleasing audible alert that systemd is finally done. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us Wagner's music is better than it sounds

SATA II causes system freeze

2014-09-19 Thread David A. De Graaf
experienced a system freeze such as mine? Can you attribute it to connecting a SATA II hard drive to a SATA II socket? -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us Q: Why do programmers confuse Halloween and Christmas? A: Because OCT 31

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-09-19 Thread David A. De Graaf
-the-wall solution, and in hopes that I'm not alone in the universe. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:18 AM, David A. De Graaf d...@datix.us wrote: When the system freezes, if X is lit (not screen-saved) the LCD

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-09-24 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 08:10:51PM +0200, Louis Lagendijk wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 08:43 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: On 22 September 2014 03:37, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:08 PM, David A. De Graaf d...@datix.us wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-10-03 Thread David A. De Graaf
. However, experiments are slow. More later. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed, there are many rewards; if you disgrace yourself, you can always write a book

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-10-19 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 02:19:55PM -0400, David A. De Graaf wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 04:01:30AM +0930, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 02 October 2014, Chris Murphy sent: Cables are often the source of weird problems. Specifically it's the connectors that are flakey, not the cable

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-11-18 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 06:12:36PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: David A. De Graaf wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 02:19:55PM -0400, David A. De Graaf wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 04:01:30AM +0930, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 02 October 2014, Chris Murphy sent

Re: man sections

2014-12-26 Thread David A. De Graaf
with some other niceties that make Linux more friendly. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic

Re: Terminal bell/beep in XFCE

2014-12-28 Thread David A. De Graaf
of AUDIODEV=hw:0 setting for the /bin/play command. That causes play (or sox) to send output directly to the alsa device, bypassing pulseaudio. That allows root, or any user, to run it. Depending on your audio hardware, you might have to alter hw:0. Check with aplay -l. -- David A. De

F21 - Huge icons

2014-12-29 Thread David A. De Graaf
questions to you all: Does anyone see these huge icons in the example programs? Can anyone guess the problem with the Theme? Am I the only one with the problem? On three machines, so far? -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us

Re: F21 - Huge icons

2014-12-30 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 03:41:04PM -0500, David A. De Graaf wrote: In a few F21 GUI panels the icons are grotesquely large - 1.75 inches square on a 15 inch wide monitor. Normal size would be ~0.25 in. This makes the panel nearly incomprehensible. This occurs in, eg, system-config

Re: F21 - Huge icons [SOLVED]

2015-01-01 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 03:41:04PM -0500, David A. De Graaf wrote: Icons are taking over the World! In Fedora 21, that is. I've always been afraid that the GUI generation would eventually make Linux completely unusable, and now they've almost succeeded. :-) In a few F21 GUI panels

Re: checkboxes in f21 gnome apps

2015-03-22 Thread David A. De Graaf
. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic. -- Dave Barry -- users mailing list

Re: checkboxes in f21 gnome apps

2015-03-26 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 10:47:25PM -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote: On 03/22/2015 02:47 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 04:41:34PM -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote: I just installed Fedora-21 and xfce. Install was from the regular live x64 download, not the xfce spin. I have

Re: RFC: Multiboot Guide

2015-06-07 Thread David A. De Graaf
on a trip till July 4 with only sporadic internet connections, so I can't interact very much. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us In opera, there is always too much singing. -Claude Debussy -- users mailing list

Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-17 Thread David A. De Graaf
or akmods --force 4) If this fails and an error message says why, the new kernel must NOT be used. Edit /boot/grub2/grub.cfg to change the default from 0 to 1. Wait for a solution. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us God tells

Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-17 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 02:52:01PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 08/17/2015 02:45 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: When an nvidia card is present, the akmod-nvidia package is present, and a new kernel is installed, it is necessary to ensure that a new nvidia.ko module is created. One might

Excessive verbosity

2015-07-18 Thread David A. De Graaf
? -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us Those who hear not the music, think the dancers mad. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org

httpd fails to start

2016-06-28 Thread David A. De Graaf
" Could it just be that the network isn't up yet? Why isn't httpd more patient and persistent? This seems like yet another systemd problem. Can anyone suggest how to fix this? -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us "Flint must be

nvidia-304xx broken with new kernel

2016-01-29 Thread David A. De Graaf
rr_add (err 0) -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first. - Ronald Reagan -- users maili

Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-07-28 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 02:53:34PM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 14:37:41 -0400 > David A. De Graaf wrote: > > > Have I overlooked something obvious? Is there a way to make systemd > > perform the simple function 'shutdown' smoothly, reliably and quickly?

Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-08-02 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 06:34:55PM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > David A. De Graaf wrote: > > > systemd and autofs/nfs are at war and have been ever since systemd > > appeared. > > > > Specifically, if machine A has an open connection to machine B > > an

Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-08-02 Thread David A. De Graaf
gitated them below (in your somewhat inconsiderate top-posting). The locate-user-daemons program is kindly provided by Tom Horsley at his website, also listed below. It's all here, for a careful reader. > > > -Peace! > > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:26 PM, David A. De Graaf <d..

systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-07-28 Thread David A. De Graaf
obvious? Is there a way to make systemd perform the simple function 'shutdown' smoothly, reliably and quickly? If anyone knows how, I would love to hear it. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us "Tolerance becomes a

Re: httpd fails to start

2016-07-01 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 06:38:17AM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > David A. De Graaf writes: > > > On a newly installed F24 ... > > > > However, when the machine boots (quiet, without rhgb) the messages > > include > > [FAILED] Failed to start The Apac

Re: httpd fails to start

2016-07-01 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 12:37:16PM +0200, Jose Maria Terry Jimenez wrote: > El 28/6/16 a las 11:28, David A. De Graaf escribió: > > On a newly installed F24 ... > > > > However, when the machine boots (quiet, without rhgb) the messages > > include > >[FAILED

r8712u driver fails in F25

2017-02-07 Thread David A. De Graaf
lan1: link is not ready and, of course, the new interface never becomes available to NetworkManager. What's gone wrong? Why does the same driver work in Fedora 24 but not in Fedora 25? How do I regain operability? -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d..

Re: r8712u driver fails in F25

2017-02-08 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 02/07/17 16:09, Rick Stevens wrote: On 02/07/2017 12:54 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: The r8712u driver from the staging area has stopped working in Fedora 25. I've monitored dmesg while plugging the DLink adapter in and it's apparent that 1 - it is detected with proper vendor and product

Re: r8712u driver fails in F25

2017-02-09 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 02/08/17 16:50, poma wrote: On 07.02.2017 21:54, David A. De Graaf wrote: The r8712u driver from the staging area has stopped working in Fedora 25. The r8712u driver works just fine in Fedora 24 and it seems to be substantially unchanged. You can try the following two options

Re: r8712u driver fails in F25

2017-02-11 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 02/11/17 06:53, poma wrote: On 10.02.2017 22:44, David De Graaf wrote: On 02/10/17 11:59, poma wrote: These days it seems that the entire Internet is at a party at https://github.com, howsoever I guess you can ask the Fedora custodians for the Fedora part. Bugzillas filed: Bug 1421383

New kernels won't boot

2016-11-10 Thread David A. De Graaf
can be so different about these newer kernels? -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le

Re: New kernels won't boot

2016-11-11 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 11/10/16 21:27, stan wrote: On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 16:24:31 -0500 "David A. De Graaf" <d...@datix.us> wrote: My trusty old IBM T30 laptop will no longer boot with the latest kernel-4.7.9-200.fc24.i686 kernel-4.8.4-200.fc24.i686 kernel-PAE-4.8.4-200.fc24.i6

Re: New kernels won't boot

2016-11-21 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 11/21/16 12:16, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/20/2016 03:43 PM, Jeffrey Ross wrote: On 11/10/2016 04:24 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: My trusty old IBM T30 laptop will no longer boot with the latest kernel-4.7.9-200.fc24.i686 kernel-4.8.4-200.fc24.i686 kernel-PAE-4.8.4-200.fc24

Re: googleearth

2016-10-14 Thread David A. De Graaf
stead of the correct lat and lon for a geographic place. Sorry, that's the limit of my diagnostic skills -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us ___ users mailing list --

autofs and ssh fail over ipsec tunnel

2017-08-11 Thread David A. De Graaf
hy is ping more clever in finding the route? Any advice or insight gratefully received. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedorap

Re: autofs and ssh fail over ipsec tunnel

2017-08-11 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 08/11/17 14:28, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 08/11/2017 11:12 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: What's the problem here? Why is ping more clever in finding the route? One problem you might have is that your ipsec gateway may have firewall rules that allow ICMP but not other traffic

Re: autofs and ssh fail over ipsec tunnel

2017-09-28 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 09/24/17 16:44, Cameron Simpson wrote: David, Is this still broken? I'd like to trade some debugging attention for a primer on setting up IPSec, which i've never gotten around to. On 11Aug2017 14:12, David A. De Graaf <d...@datix.us> wrote: I use an ipsec tunnel to connect

Re: cups-browsed regression?

2017-11-28 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 11/25/17 14:18, David A. De Graaf wrote: On 11/25/17 11:20, Richard Shaw wrote: On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:03 PM, David A. De Graaf <d...@datix.us <mailto:d...@datix.us>> wrote: I've freshly installed Fedora 27 on two machines;  neither have a printer directly connect

Re: cups-browsed regression?

2017-11-25 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 11/25/17 11:20, Richard Shaw wrote: On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:03 PM, David A. De Graaf <d...@datix.us <mailto:d...@datix.us>> wrote: I've freshly installed Fedora 27 on two machines;  neither have a printer directly connected, but rely on cups-browsed to display

cups-browsed regression?

2017-11-24 Thread David A. De Graaf
much less useful than the previous totally automatic availability of all printers across the LAN. Is this a regression? -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us ___ users mailing lis

pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-22 Thread David A. De Graaf
es. Sound now works perfectly - just the way it should. I cannot discern any important loss of function from the deleted 34 packages so far.  aplay, vlc, xmms, mythfrontend and even skypeforlinux all work fine with alsa. pulseaudio should just go away! -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 11/22/17 21:59, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 22 November 2017, David A. De Graaf sent: I've fought with this miserable pulseaudio creation for several years, trying to get sound to work *properly*, but this is the last straw. I can't say I've had any real problems with it. I used

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 11/22/17 19:38, Sam Varshavchik wrote: David A. De Graaf writes: Today I held an exorcism and have slain the damned thing:     dnf remove pulseaudio which, amazingly, took out 34 packages. Sound now works perfectly - just the way it should. I cannot discern any important loss of function

Re: Thunderbird freezes machine [SOLVED]

2018-01-17 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 01/15/18 17:02, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/16/18 05:04, David A. De Graaf wrote: If only there were a way to make thunderbird use the native email files, as mutt does, this problem wouldn't occur. For your IMAP accounts, explore the "Storage and Synchronization"  settings Thank you

Re: Thunderbird freezes machine [SOLVED]

2018-01-15 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 01/14/18 17:57, David A. De Graaf wrote: I have a weird and puzzling problem with thunderbird on my main computer, running Fedora 26 (waiting for resolution before updating). If I so much as touch an attachment to a received email, the machine freezes. My problem is solved, sort

Thunderbird freezes machine

2018-01-14 Thread David A. De Graaf
in Fedora 25. I strongly suspect I have some odd plugin or addon on this machine only.  But before I start a massive witchhunt, I want to ask the experts here: Has anyone experienced a similar breakdown? -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us

Re: Home Routers (Totally OT)

2018-08-18 Thread David A. De Graaf
    sed -e "s/.*inet addr://" -e "s/ *Bcast.*//" Now I can bang on 'getip' as often as I like without upsetting the internet. Thanks. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us __

Re: cups sucks!!! Epilogue

2018-03-05 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 03/03/18 20:20, Stephen Morris wrote: On 3/3/18 9:01 am, David A. De Graaf wrote: The cups system in Fedora 27 has taken a giant step backward from prior versions in that browsing no longer works automatically.  In F26, if the cups-browsed service was enabled and started, all

Re: cups sucks!!! Epilogue

2018-03-02 Thread David A. De Graaf
inting has traditionally been so successful and reliable and are hell-bent on "fixing" it. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread David A. De Graaf
at insists that Gnome is the One True Way.  They're wrong. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email t

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 11/7/18 3:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: I did find one place:   https://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/download/index.html that offers to "Download Fedora 29 Xfce Desktop", and I have done so. However, there's no checksum that I've

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-09 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 11/7/18 8:11 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: When a new Fedora is released, I immediately fetch the Live Xfce Spin .iso.  As a Gnome hater, I want to avoid that entrapment. I've always found Xfce perfectly suited for me. This crucial piece of the release

Re: remind

2020-04-08 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 07:12:45PM -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > On 2020-04-07 17:29, David A. De Graaf wrote: > > What's happened to the remind and tkremind packages? > > > > I just discovered, to my horror, they're not available in Fedora 31. > > I'm go

remind

2020-04-07 Thread David A. De Graaf
What's happened to the remind and tkremind packages? I just discovered, to my horror, they're not available in Fedora 31. I'm going to have to contend with a lot of unhappy birthday celebrants. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us