F28 system-config-date?

2018-05-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
What happened to system-config-date? I just installed F28 (jumped from F24), and am trying to find how I control things like what time zone I am in?  Always used the gui system-config-date... thanks ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: F28 system-config-date?

2018-05-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 05/25/2018 01:33 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: The trend has been to move away from the Redhat GUI tools and to rely on each individual desktop to have their own app... Are you running Gnome, KDE or one of the others? Xfce I have not found its timezone control. thanks __

Re: F28 system-config-date?

2018-05-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 05/25/2018 01:44 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 13:19 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: What happened to system-config-date? I just installed F28 (jumped from F24), and am trying to find how I control things like what time zone I am in? Always used the gui system-config

Re: F28 system-config-date?

2018-05-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 05/25/2018 01:33 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: The trend has been to move away from the Redhat GUI tools and to rely on each individual desktop to have their own app... Are you running Gnome, KDE or one of the others? And system-config-printer replacement?  I installed that  so I could get pr

F28 and Android mounting

2018-05-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
In the past all I need: dnf install libmtp gvfs-mtp libmtp was already installed.  Adding gvfs-mtp is not enough, it seems. Or do I have to restart? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@l

Re: F28 and Android mounting

2018-05-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 05/25/2018 03:11 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 05/25/2018 11:20 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: In the past all I need: dnf install libmtp gvfs-mtp libmtp was already installed.  Adding gvfs-mtp is not enough, it seems. To do what? Sorry.  I only stated it in the subject line.  Mounting my

Re: F28 system-config-date?

2018-05-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 05/25/2018 03:07 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 05/25/2018 11:00 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 05/25/2018 01:44 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 13:19 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: What happened to system-config-date? I just installed F28 (jumped from F24), and am trying

Re: F28 system-config-date?

2018-05-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 05/25/2018 03:13 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 14:00 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 05/25/2018 01:44 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 13:19 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: What happened to system-config-date? I just installed F28 (jumped from F24

Re: F28 system-config-date?

2018-05-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 05/25/2018 03:07 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 05/25/2018 11:00 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 05/25/2018 01:44 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 13:19 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: What happened to system-config-date? I just installed F28 (jumped from F24), and am trying

F28 Backlight does not turn off

2018-05-28 Thread Robert Moskowitz
This is Fedora 28 with Xfce. I have set power manager to blank and lock the screen after 15 min. This is a change from the default 10min. Now the screen is black, but staying on.  It is no longer turning off. What do I need to set so that the screen turns off? thanks ___

F28 selinux policy problem with logwatch?

2018-05-28 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am getting the following security alert.  If I am reading it right, logwatch is the culprit, so I am surprised.  The message does tell me how to allow this activity, but again if this is logwatch, why is it not setting policy right? SELinux is preventing mktemp from write access on the direc

F28 - K3b failure on image copy

2018-05-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
First time using K3b on this system.  Plugged the DVD/RW in.  Copied the CD no problem but the write failed: Devices --- SONY DVD RW DRU-840A SS01 (/dev/sr0, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL) [DVD-ROM, DVD-R Sequential, DVD-R Du

Re: F28 - K3b failure on image copy

2018-05-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Seems the error is that my user needs to be added to group cdrom. This was not the case in the past... On 05/29/2018 04:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: First time using K3b on this system.  Plugged the DVD/RW in.  Copied the CD no problem but the write failed: Devices

Re: F28 - K3b failure on image copy

2018-05-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
enabled during build. Please rebuild the package with the Permission helper enabled or contact your distribution. Me in groups is: grep rgm group wheel:x:10:rgm cdrom:x:11:rgm rgm:x:1000: On 05/29/2018 05:13 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Seems the error is that my user needs to be added to group

Re: F28 - K3b failure on image copy

2018-05-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 05/29/2018 05:17 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Seems the error is that my user needs to be added to group cdrom. This was not the case in the past... That should not be required now either. Mind filing a bug? I will work on getting into bugzilla.  Also got the

Re: F28 - K3b failure on image copy

2018-05-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
But gdhadow did get updated: grep rgm gshadow wheel:::rgm cdrom:::rgm rgm:!:: More confusion.  :( On 05/29/2018 05:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 05/29/2018 05:17 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Seems the error is that my user needs to be added to group cdrom. This was

bug filed: Re: F28 - K3b failure on image copy

2018-05-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
*Bug 1583845* <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1583845> On 05/29/2018 05:31 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But gdhadow did get updated: grep rgm gshadow wheel:::rgm cdrom:::rgm rgm:!:: More confusion.  :( On 05/29/2018 05:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 05/29/2018 05

Re: F28 - K3b failure on image copy

2018-05-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 05/29/2018 06:41 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 05/29/2018 02:19 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: added to the cdrom group disconnected the DVD/RW, restarted K3B and still get the error.  In device settings I see the message: In order to give K3b full access to the writer device the current user

Re: F28 - K3b failure on image copy

2018-05-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 05/29/2018 08:13 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/30/18 05:31, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But gdhadow did get updated: grep rgm gshadow wheel:::rgm cdrom:::rgm rgm:!:: More confusion.  :( I've added the following comment to the BZ. FWIW, you can workaround the problem by doing sudo chm

F28 more SElinux warnings this with Wireshark?

2018-05-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I just did: dnf install gftp fping mplayer wireshar* youtube-dl And got: SELinux is preventing pool from getattr access on the file /etc/gshadow. *  Plugin catchall (100. confidence) suggests ** If you believe that pool should be allowed getattr access on the gshad

Re: F28 - K3b failure on image copy

2018-05-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 05/30/2018 08:55 AM, Rex Dieter wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 05/29/2018 06:41 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Are you using the lightdm desktop manager and pam-kwallet? This may be related to the other issues this combination causes (seems like it's poking its nose into a lot of t

Re: F28 Backlight does not turn off

2018-05-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Branko, On 05/30/2018 03:34 PM, Branko Grubic wrote: On Mon, 28 May 2018 07:34:59 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: This is Fedora 28 with Xfce. I have set power manager to blank and lock the screen after 15 min. This is a change from the default 10min. Now the screen is black, but staying on

SOLVED: Re: F28 Backlight does not turn off

2018-05-31 Thread Robert Moskowitz
on,  Then at 15min it turns off. Adjust the timers as desired. On 05/30/2018 03:34 PM, Branko Grubic wrote: On Mon, 28 May 2018 07:34:59 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: This is Fedora 28 with Xfce. I have set power manager to blank and lock the screen after 15 min. This is a change from t

F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-05-31 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Yesterday, I had no problem writing to a USB device. Today, with the latest batch of updates (including selinux-policy-targeted), I could not write to a USB drive.  I was under the gun to get something out, so I rebooted and USB writing worked. Just a bit of a glitch, but an inconvenience.  I

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-01 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 05/31/2018 11:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/01/18 11:10, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Yesterday, I had no problem writing to a USB device. Today, with the latest batch of updates (including selinux-policy-targeted), I could not write to a USB drive.  I was under the gun to get something out

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-01 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/01/2018 07:32 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2018-05-31 at 23:10 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Yesterday, I had no problem writing to a USB device. Today, with the latest batch of updates (including selinux-policy-targeted), I could not write to a USB drive. I was unde

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-01 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/01/2018 02:30 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 05/31/2018 08:10 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Today, with the latest batch of updates (including selinux-policy-targeted), I could not write to a USB drive.  I was under the gun to get something out, so I rebooted and USB writing worked. Just a

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-01 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/01/2018 03:59 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/01/2018 11:33 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 06/01/2018 02:30 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: You did online updates?  This is the reason why offline updates is the default now, because doing updates without a reboot can cause weird situations like

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/02/2018 12:45 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/01/2018 09:32 PM, John Morris wrote: On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 11:30 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: You did online updates?  This is the reason why offline updates is the default now, because doing updates without a reboot can cause weird situations li

Where is tracer

2018-06-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
So I decided to look into tracer. When I did my system build I did a 'dnf list > dnf.lst' to get a listing of all rpms in the repos (at least at that point it time). I have found this an easy way to go look for things of interest.  So I did: # grep tracer dnf.lst traceroute.x86_64 3:2.1.0-6.f

Re: Where is tracer

2018-06-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Thanks On 06/03/2018 12:13 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/03/18 11:37, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So I decided to look into tracer. When I did my system build I did a 'dnf list > dnf.lst' to get a listing of all rpms in the repos (at least at that point it time). I have found this an

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/03/2018 12:43 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/02/2018 02:28 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Also, I usually have a VM running (Windows 10) that I prefer not to have to restart just because I updated one of Linux's libraries that the VM doesn't depend on. This might even mean restarting my de

F28 audacity-free crashing with passthrough monitoring enabled

2018-06-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Anyone here using Audacity? I am recording some records through an amp to usb converter (ADS Tech Instant Music).  Been having problems with one Bach Concerti album getting stuck.  So after a couple tries, I tried enabling passthrough mode in recording so I could listen to the record and nudge

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/03/2018 01:16 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/03/2018 06:29 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 06/03/2018 12:43 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: By default, libvirt and qemu will pause the VM and save it when you reboot.  On startup, it resumes from where it left off. This has NOT been my experience

Lenovo 120e speakers stop

2018-06-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz
At least with F28/Xfce, so far, I am getting SOMETHING from the builtin speakers.  F24/Xfce got nothing... I am listening to a session in Audacity.  Stopping and starting to get the track points so I can split it up into separate tracks. Internal speakers stop playing.  I have to plug in a lit

Re: F28 audacity-free crashing with passthrough monitoring enabled

2018-06-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Added comment to bug 1541330 <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1541330> On 06/03/2018 12:44 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Anyone here using Audacity? I am recording some records through an amp to usb converter (ADS Tech Instant Music).  Been having problems with one Bach Co

xml2rfc rpm

2018-06-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I see the following rpms in the repo: # grep xml2rfc dnf.lst python2-xml2rfc.noarch 2.5.2-4.fc28    fedora python3-xml2rfc.noarch 2.5.2-4.fc28    fedora yet: # dnf install xml2rfc Last metadata expiration check: 2:22:41 ago on Sun 03 Jun 2018 05:33:23 PM EDT. N

Done - Re: xml2rfc rpm

2018-06-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz
From the xml2rfc list: pip install xml2rfc And that got me the latest version. On 06/03/2018 08:07 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I see the following rpms in the repo: # grep xml2rfc dnf.lst python2-xml2rfc.noarch 2.5.2-4.fc28    fedora python3-xml2rfc.noarch 2.5.2-4.fc28

Re: xml2rfc rpm

2018-06-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Ed, On 06/03/2018 08:42 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/04/18 08:07, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I see the following rpms in the repo: # grep xml2rfc dnf.lst python2-xml2rfc.noarch 2.5.2-4.fc28    fedora python3-xml2rfc.noarch 2.5.2-4.fc28    fedora yet: # dnf

Re: xml2rfc rpm

2018-06-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/04/2018 07:55 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/04/18 18:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2018-06-03 at 20:07 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I see the following rpms in the repo: # grep xml2rfc dnf.lst python2-xml2rfc.noarch 2.5.2-4.fc28fedora py

Re: xml2rfc rpm

2018-06-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/04/2018 07:55 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/04/18 18:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2018-06-03 at 20:07 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I see the following rpms in the repo: # grep xml2rfc dnf.lst python2-xml2rfc.noarch 2.5.2-4.fc28fedora py

Re: OT: Annoying List Behavior....

2018-06-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/04/2018 12:27 PM, Danny Horne via users wrote: On 04/06/18 16:55, Mike Wright wrote: What I'd like to know is: what does my sender address look like to other recipients? is it "Mike Wright", or is it some generic Fedora address? What does THIS post display on your thunderbird client as t

Re: network-manager-applet

2018-06-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/04/2018 06:04 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: Good to know, thanks. If you could, I'd appreciate the output form rpm -qi # rpm -qi -f /usr/bin/nm-applet Name    : network-manager-applet Version : 1.8.10 Release : 2.fc28.2 Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: Thu 24 May 2018 09:27:5

QEMU suspend works - Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Finally rebooted last night after a kernel update... On 06/03/2018 01:16 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/03/2018 06:29 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 06/03/2018 12:43 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: By default, libvirt and qemu will pause the VM and save it when you reboot.  On startup, it resumes from

Re: QEMU suspend works - Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/10/2018 08:50 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2018-06-10 at 08:02 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Finally rebooted last night after a kernel update... On 06/03/2018 01:16 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/03/2018 06:29 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 06/03/2018 12:43 AM, Samuel

Re: QEMU suspend works - Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/10/2018 10:21 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2018-06-10 at 09:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Assuming you were logged into the guest when doing the host shutdown, then if you had to log back in, the guest can't have been suspended and resumed from where it left o

Re: Changing the timezone in a GUI

2018-06-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/11/2018 05:57 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: I expect to be moving to a different time zone in a few months, and wanted to make sure that I can easily change the time zone on my desktop, running F 25 and Xfce.  The Time and Date program on my Settings menu didn't run, but I was able to look in wit

Re: Changing the timezone in a GUI

2018-06-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/11/2018 07:21 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/11/2018 04:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: dnf install system-config-date  I used it through tons of versions and works perfectly fine with Xfce. It has been dropped in F28. Not listed as a package for F 25. Bad. I jumped from F24 to F28

Re: Changing the timezone in a GUI

2018-06-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/12/2018 03:17 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/11/2018 11:39 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote: You can pick latest version here: https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/system-config-date/1.10.9/3.fc25/noarch/ Don't know though if it works :-) Perfect!  Just what I was looking for, and I've upd

Re: Changing the timezone in a GUI

2018-06-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/12/2018 12:01 PM, Garry Williams wrote: Take a look at timedatectl(1). It will save a lot of trouble. Look at the subject line:  GUI Know all about timedatectl, but want a simple world map.  Command line does not save a lot of trouble if the city you landed in is not one of the choi

Re: Screen goes dark when booting latest kernel

2018-06-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Is it to get the log session or is it F6? On 06/12/2018 05:09 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/12/2018 01:58 PM, Alex wrote: Hi, I should add that I tried to boot into runlevel 3 and it made no difference. How do I determine at what point it went to a black screen and just stopped booting? Can y

Re: Screen goes dark when booting latest kernel

2018-06-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz
No.  During boot, on the main session shows what is transpiring, but one of the other screens shows all the messages. On 06/12/2018 06:00 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/12/2018 02:44 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Is it to get the log session or is it F6? What log session?  Are you thinking of

Uninstalling {972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}.xpi

2018-06-13 Thread Robert Moskowitz
It seems I picked this up when I built this F28 system in both /usr/lib64/firefox/browser/extensions/{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}.xpi /usr/lib64/thunderbird/extensions/{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}.xpi Seems to be an unpleasant Ads thing.  I noticed it because how I run Thund

Getting rpm update history with wildcarding

2018-06-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I want to get history for all the pulseaudio components (to update my audacity bug report at rpmfusion). #rpm -q pulseaudio --last produces pulseaudio-11.1-18.fc28.1.x86_64  Thu 24 May 2018 09:59:34 PM EDT but # rpm -q pulseaudio* --last results in: package   

Re: Getting rpm update history with wildcarding

2018-06-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/14/2018 09:08 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 14 June 2018 at 14:27, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I want to get history for all the pulseaudio components (to update my audacity bug report at rpmfusion). #rpm -q pulseaudio --last produces pulseaudio-11.1-18.fc28.1.x86_64 Thu 24 May

Re: Getting rpm update history with wildcarding

2018-06-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/14/2018 09:57 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 8:55 AM Robert Moskowitz <mailto:r...@htt-consult.com>> wrote: On 06/14/2018 09:08 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: > On 14 June 2018 at 14:27, Robert Moskowitz mailto:r...@htt-consult.com>> wrote: >&g

Re: Getting rpm update history with wildcarding

2018-06-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/14/2018 10:54 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/14/18 22:23, Tony Nelson wrote: That is not what he means.  Would one of you please look at the RPM man page? Sure    --last Orders the package listing by install time such  that  the  latest   packages are at the top.

F28 suspend to RAM seems to be broken

2018-07-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Using Xfce desktop.  I have been having flaky suspend activity since shortly after I installed F28 and it is getting worst. I have noticed that sometimes on suspend, it right-away unsuspends then I log in, suspend again and it 'keeps'.  I thought it might be because of libvirt-guests taking to

Re: F28 suspend to RAM seems to be broken

2018-07-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/15/2018 07:51 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Using Xfce desktop.  I have been having flaky suspend activity since shortly after I installed F28 and it is getting worst. I have noticed that sometimes on suspend, it right-away unsuspends then I log in, suspend again and it 'keeps

SELinux problems with logwatch?

2018-07-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I get these messages regularly: Jul 15 03:31:15 lx121e rsyslogd[602]: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="8.36.0" x-pid="602" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com";] rsyslogd was HUPed Jul 15 03:31:17 lx121e setroubleshoot[5780]: SELinux is preventing mktemp from write access on the directory .es

System hung over night

2018-07-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
When I woke up this morning  at 5:30 to head to the airport, I heard my system fan going at full speed.  I tried to log in to the locked system, but no response.  I had to power cycle.  Looking back in messages, the last messages were right after 4am: # grep "Jul 15 04" messages Jul 15 04:01:0

Re: F28 suspend to RAM seems to be broken

2018-07-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
lx121e systemd-sleep[6150]: Suspending system... Jul 15 08:50:19 lx121e kernel: PM: suspend entry (deep) On 07/15/2018 08:05 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/15/2018 07:51 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Using Xfce desktop.  I have been having flaky suspend activity since shortly after I installe

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/15/2018 01:37 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote: On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 6:19 PM, Tim Evans <mailto:tkev...@tkevans.com>> wrote: On 07/15/2018 08:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: When I woke up this morning  at 5:30 to head to the airport, I heard my system fan

Re: F28 suspend to RAM seems to be broken

2018-07-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/15/2018 10:23 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/15/18 21:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Locked again. I had done a number of suspends then resumes.  They worked.  Even with QEMU and my VM running. Then I restarted Libre writer and worked for a while.  I went to suspend and it locked.  Thought

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/15/2018 01:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2018-07-15 at 12:20 -0500, SternData wrote: On 07/15/2018 11:19 AM, Tim Evans wrote: On 07/15/2018 08:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: When I woke up this morning at 5:30 to head to the airport, I heard my system fan going at

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/16/2018 01:24 AM, Norman Gaywood wrote: I've been getting these hangs on all 4.17 kernels that I've tried (up to 4.17.6) kernel 4.16 works like a charm. Might be this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1598462 hmmm.  I did have an SD card in my laptop's SD slot and it

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/16/2018 04:46 AM, Tom Yates wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Where do I set how many kernels to keep? If I have to fall back to 17.3, I am going to have more than 3 available... As I understand it, it's installonly_limit=3 in /etc/yum.conf . Thanks.  I

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/16/2018 07:23 AM, Tom Yates wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/16/2018 04:46 AM, Tom Yates wrote:   As I understand it, it's   installonly_limit=3   in /etc/yum.conf . Thanks.  In F28 that is:  /etc/dnf/dnf.conf Thanks, you're of co

Re: F28 suspend to RAM seems to be broken

2018-07-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
know that next is nm-dispactcher.  I wonder that with QEMU running and all it has to do to support its virtual network interface if this is where the hangup is happening? Bob On 07/15/2018 02:39 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/15/2018 10:23 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/15/18 21:25, Robert

F28 suspend to ram bounce

2018-07-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have seen this for some time (perhaps since install) on F28.  I suspend to ram and the system seems to suspend then immediately restarts by itself.  I unlock and suspend again and this 2nd attempt 'takes'. It seems this happens one the 1st suspend after a powerup and login.  I don't believe

Re: F28 suspend to ram bounce

2018-07-17 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/17/2018 05:18 AM, Tim via users wrote: Allegedly, on or about 16 July 2018, Robert Moskowitz sent: I have seen this for some time (perhaps since install) on F28. I suspend to ram and the system seems to suspend then immediately restarts by itself. I unlock and suspend again and this

Re: F28 suspend to ram bounce

2018-07-17 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/17/2018 06:50 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 06:25:40 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/17/2018 05:18 AM, Tim via users wrote: Allegedly, on or about 16 July 2018, Robert Moskowitz sent: I have seen this for some time (perhaps since install) on F28. I suspend to ram

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-17 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/17/2018 09:22 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: Probably a completely different problem, but my system also crashed last night, and my router crashed as well. In fact I suspect the router crash took down my system. The last thing in the log was a message I've never seen before about networkd service

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-17 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/17/2018 10:36 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 22:04:49 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: Could it have been a simple case of a spike on mains power? I suppose, but there were no messages from my UPS which generally whines about stuff like that. Maybe it was a test of an alien EMP devi

Fixed? - Re: F28 suspend to RAM seems to be broken

2018-07-17 Thread Robert Moskowitz
il contact.  And more progress from the Keccak team.  Plus lots of other good crypto progress.  Apple seems to be really serious in their participation. On 07/16/2018 11:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/16/18 21:46, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Just hung again on suspending.  I came up this time o

Re: F28 suspend to ram bounce

2018-07-17 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Still had the suspend bounce on 1st suspend only with the new kernel, 4.17.6 I will work up a bug report on it. On 07/17/2018 07:21 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/17/2018 06:50 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 06:25:40 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/17/2018 05:18 AM

Not - Re: Fixed? - Re: F28 suspend to RAM seems to be broken

2018-07-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Locked up on suspending on leaving my room for breakfast.  Just rebooted and I will file a bug report on this. Back to the 17.3 kernel for now.  :( On 07/17/2018 09:29 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am running the new kernel, 4.17.6.  I have carefully started tasks and suspended.  With 17.5

Re: Not - Re: Fixed? - Re: F28 suspend to RAM seems to be broken

2018-07-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I just filed *Bug 1602808* <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1602808> On 07/18/2018 10:18 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/18/18 22:00, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Locked up on suspending on leaving my room for breakfast.  Just rebooted and I will file a bug report on this. Back

Re: Not - Re: Fixed? - Re: F28 suspend to RAM seems to be broken

2018-07-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/18/2018 10:48 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/18/18 22:18, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/18/18 22:00, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Locked up on suspending on leaving my room for breakfast.  Just rebooted and I will file a bug report on this. Back to the 17.3 kernel for now.  :( As I mentioned

Re: Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
If you want a fairly well packaged Linux Microsoft alternative, check out ClearOS which is Centos based. I use it, but then my needs are rather small. On 07/18/2018 11:07 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Good evening from Singapore, I am torn between deploying Microsoft Exchange 201

Re: Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/18/2018 11:58 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Hi, You mean I have to pay for using Exchange as well, in addition to Windows Server? And it is getting worst as MS moves to monthly service fee model. And schools are not given a summer vacation break on the monthly fees (

And F28 - Re: Update problem: soundtouch (F27)

2018-07-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Looks like today is a day to skip updating... On 07/19/2018 06:29 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 17:55:11 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: [ ... ] You could either wait a day or so or do the following State "waiting" entered. Thanks. Cheers, Frank __

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/19/2018 07:42 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 10:36:30 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: I guess I'll see if it happens again, or was just a one time thing. It did OK for 1 night, then I found it crashed again this morning, and the router crashed the same way as well. I'm booted bac

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/19/2018 08:55 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:12:12 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: What model router? It is an ASUS RT-AC5300 https://tomhorsley.com/hardware/rt-ac5300/rt-ac5300.html (from the way the router is positioned you can also deduce I'm not married :-).

Re: EFI

2018-07-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/19/2018 03:15 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 07/19/2018 10:38 AM, Greg Woods wrote: It is possible to get yourself in trouble if you have more than one EFI partition. My two were on the same drive; I don't know if that makes a difference. But what happened to me was, after the first time I b

Re: suspends shutdowns system instead of suspending

2018-07-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/20/2018 12:34 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 07/19/2018 11:52 PM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: And the issue is back again. I can't suspend on battery. Suspend, hibernate, hybrid sleep, etc. work just fine on power. Only suspend doesn't work on battery but hibernate and hybrid-sleep do. It's amb

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/20/2018 06:35 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 07/16/2018 05:37 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 06:26 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/16/2018 04:46 AM, Tom Yates wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Where do I set how many kernels to keep? If I

Re: Not - Re: Fixed? - Re: F28 suspend to RAM seems to be broken

2018-07-23 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/23/2018 05:47 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 11:30:00 +0200 Frank Elsner wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 22:18:28 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: [ ... ] As I mentioned elsewhere, the 17.7 kernel may resolve some thorny issues. It isn't yet in updates-testing but it has been bu

Suspend working?

2018-07-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Lost the thread on this suspend problem.  Tried to find it, so I started anew So far the 4.17.7 kernel is working.  I did a lot of suspends as I opened each new app.  Then I let things run for 1/2 a day.   This latest suspend did that double thing, with the system coming right out of susp

Re: Not - Re: Fixed? - Re: F28 suspend to RAM seems to be broken

2018-07-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/25/2018 07:59 PM, Tony Nelson wrote: On 18-07-23 10:08:50, Ed Greshko wrote:   ... Just jamming in here to report that my Acer Aspire E15 that on F25 would suspend to disk and shut down, after upgrade to F28 with the 4.17.7 kernel, suspends to disk but does not shut down.  After forcible

Re: Not - Re: Fixed? - Re: F28 suspend to RAM seems to be broken

2018-07-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/26/2018 06:54 AM, Mark C. Allman wrote: On 07/25/2018 09:04 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/25/2018 07:59 PM, Tony Nelson wrote: On 18-07-23 10:08:50, Ed Greshko wrote:   ... Just jamming in here to report that my Acer Aspire E15 that on F25 would suspend to disk and shut down

Kernel 4.17.11 suspend seems to work

2018-08-07 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I just upgraded to the new kernel.  I will say that I believe that even kernel 4.17.7 was good. I have everything running and suspend works.  The first suspend resulted in that double suspend, but since then I have been good. The messages at the time of the 'failed' suspend were: Aug  7 11:4

Re: Kernel 4.17.11 suspend seems to work

2018-08-07 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 08/07/2018 12:48 PM, Tim Evans wrote: On 08/07/2018 12:10 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> I just upgraded to the new kernel. I will say that I believe that >> even kernel 4.17.7 was good. > > But the overnight lockups have returned with 4.17.11. > Well I guess I

F28 Parole needs H.264 (High Profile) Decoder

2018-08-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have an iPhone .mov quick time video I need to play for my wife. I get this message from Parole.  When I click on install, nothing seems to happen. How do I get this decoder installed? Meanwhile, VLC will play the audio, but the video stays on the first frame.  What's with that? Or maybe s

Re: F28 Parole needs H.264 (High Profile) Decoder

2018-08-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 08/21/2018 09:59 AM, stan wrote: On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 07:59:07 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have an iPhone .mov quick time video I need to play for my wife. I get this message from Parole.  When I click on install, nothing seems to happen. How do I get this decoder installed

Re: new kernel?

2018-08-23 Thread Robert Moskowitz
For me, it is good to be out of the 'Kernel of the week club'. A little peace and quite is a good thing. :) On 08/21/2018 11:58 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Thanks! I guess that I am just surprised that we have not had a new kernel for a while. We are at 4.17.14 and there is nothing on updates-te

Weirdness with new kernel

2018-09-01 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I *think* I did a shutdown Friday instead of a suspend, as I had to powerup this evening instead of resume.  I will check back into the logs. So given this was a fresh boot (kernel 4.17.144), I did a dnf update and got a new kernel (4.17.19).  I rebooted, and it would not boot up.  I was seein

Re: Noveau crashes / How to restart automatically

2018-09-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 09/02/2018 10:40 AM, Javier Perez wrote: Hi Noveau is crashing frequently, mostly whenever I run Civ 4 under wine. The error looks like "nouveau :01:00.0: Xorg[5268]: nv50cal_space: -16" I have seen something similar in bugzilla so I hope they solve it. Meanwhile, each time it happ

Re: preferred desktop environment for MS Surface Pro 3

2018-09-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Do any of the Fedora desktops support touch screens?  We had this discussion ~1 year ago on the fedora-arm list about touch screens. On 09/03/2018 09:24 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Hi, I would like to install Fedora on my MS Surface Pro 3. I do not have much experience with tablets so I was wo

vncserver with Xfce?

2018-09-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Anyone have vncserver working on Fedora with Xfce? Granted I am trying it on F29-arm-beta, but I followed the processes I have for Centos7-arm with Gnome. systemctl set-default multi-user.target dnf install tigervnc-server Went to my user id and ran vncpasswd cp /lib/systemd/system/vncserve

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