Re: deltarpms save almost no space

2017-01-15 Thread Andre Robatino 
With the latest push, it's creating drpms both between the 2 latest versions, 
and between release and latest. But it didn't create the drpms that were 
missing before. For example, in 
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/25/x86_64/drpms/ there's 
still only thunderbird-45.4.0-1.fc25_45.6.0-3.fc25.x86_64.drpm (there should 
have been one from 45.6.0-2 to 45.6.0-3, but that update was from before the 
fix) but for the just released 4.9.3 kernel there's both 
kernel-4.8.16-300.fc25_4.9.3-200.fc25.x86_64.drpm and 
kernel-4.8.6-300.fc25_4.9.3-200.fc25.x86_64.drpm. So should be good going 
forward, if you're already up to date.
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Re: deltarpms save almost no space

2017-01-14 Thread Bob Goodwin 

On 01/14/17 14:08, Andre Robatino wrote:

I'm not sure whether it will take effect on the next push or not, Kevin Fenzi 
made the change just after I asked about it on #fedora-releng . He said he 
wasn't sure whether it would make all the missing deltas, or just the new ones 
going forward.

+
Ok, I'll wait and see what happens ...

Thanks,

Bob

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Re: deltarpms save almost no space

2017-01-14 Thread Andre Robatino 
I'm not sure whether it will take effect on the next push or not, Kevin Fenzi 
made the change just after I asked about it on #fedora-releng . He said he 
wasn't sure whether it would make all the missing deltas, or just the new ones 
going forward.
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Re: deltarpms save almost no space

2017-01-14 Thread stan 
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:55:02 -
"Andre Robatino"  wrote:

> I think it's expected that the size of the update metadata grows
> after release. There have been some bugs filed in the past to delta
> the metadata (for example
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=850896 ), but it hasn't
> happened so far. ___

Thanks.
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Re: deltarpms save almost no space

2017-01-14 Thread Bob Goodwin 

On 01/14/17 12:29, stan wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 16:16:10 -
"Andre Robatino"  wrote:


Turns out that the F25 drpm settings weren't updated after release.
It's just been changed, see
http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ansible.git/commit/?id=db07e40  .

Thanks for pursuing this.  I noticed that deltarpms weren't
consistently happening, but I thought that someone had decided they were
not needed or something.  Part of those continuous Fedora changes.

+

I meant to ask about this too. My data 
usage is allocated by Viasat and I watch 
it carefully. I've noticed that there 
were very few drpms with fedora 25 upgrades.


Is the above page saying that this 
problem is fixed and things should work 
as in the past after today?


Bob

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Re: deltarpms save almost no space

2017-01-14 Thread Andre Robatino 
I think it's expected that the size of the update metadata grows after release. 
There have been some bugs filed in the past to delta the metadata (for example 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=850896 ), but it hasn't happened so 
far.
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Re: deltarpms save almost no space

2017-01-14 Thread stan 
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 16:16:10 -
"Andre Robatino"  wrote:

> Turns out that the F25 drpm settings weren't updated after release.
> It's just been changed, see
> http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ansible.git/commit/?id=db07e40 .

Thanks for pursuing this.  I noticed that deltarpms weren't
consistently happening, but I thought that someone had decided they were
not needed or something.  Part of those continuous Fedora changes.

Like an ISO 9001 factory, continuous improvement.

I've noticed something else, but haven't mentioned it.  It seems that
the updates repository grows constantly in size, and that dnf downloads
the whole thing every time.  Is that part of the deltarpm change, so it
will only download the differences now?  It seems a waste to download
all the information that is already here again.
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Re: deltarpms save almost no space

2017-01-14 Thread Andre Robatino 
Turns out that the F25 drpm settings weren't updated after release. It's just 
been changed, see 
http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ansible.git/commit/?id=db07e40 .
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