Re: grub prompt
try doing the livecd boot, and then mount the /boot partition and unmount then retest and see if it then works. If this fixes it reply and tell me what fs /boot is and how fast you did the update and reboot. On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 8:37 AM Neal Becker wrote: > > I installed F32 on a laptop from Fedora-MATE_Compiz-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso. > Then updated. > It seem that if I try to boot I just get the dreaded grub> prompt. > But if I have the live-usb stick inserted it boots normally. > > Any ideas? > > -- > Those who don't understand recursion are doomed to repeat it > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade
This morning I got the dreaded grub prompt on boot. Took me 3 hours to understand what https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F30_bugs#GRUB_boot_menu_is_not_populated_after_an_upgrade was talking about. I did a bunch of searching and trying things out before I hit upon the configfile grub command. Note that grub> configfile /grub2/grub.cfg.rpmsave as shown in the common bugs is not appropriate on my machine, there was no /grub2 (see below). grub> insmod ext2 grub> insmod luks grub> insmod xfs grub> ls (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos5) # note: under (hd0,msdos1) is /boot # note: under (hd0,msdos3) is encrypted / # note: under (hd0,msdos5) is encrypted /home # note: cryptomount -a does not work!!! grub> cryptomount hd0,msdos3 grub> insmod lvm grub> ls (crypto0) (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos5) # note: did not need to decrypt / for this to work... grub> configfile (hd0,1)/grub/grub.cfg.rpmsave # got old boot menu :-) # boot into F29 # after boot... > su # /sbin/grub2-install /dev/sda # /sbin/reboot # reboot into F30 # good as new... On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:33 AM richard emberson wrote: > I got the dreaded grub prompt on boot this morning > Took me 3 hours to understand what > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F30_bugs#GRUB_boot_menu_is_not_populated_after_an_upgrade > was talking about. I did a bunch of searching and trying things out > before I hit upon > the configfile grub command. > Note that >grub> configfile /grub2/grub.cfg.rpmsave > as shown in the common bugs is not appropriate on my machine, there was > no /grub2 (see below). > > grub> insmod ext2 > grub> insmod luks > grub> insmod xfs > grub> ls >(hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos5) >(thunderbird:3111): libnotify-WARNING **: 10:29:55.823: Failed to > connect to proxy > # note: under (hd0,msdos1) is /boot > # note: under (hd0,msdos3) is encrypted / > # note: under (hd0,msdos5) is encrypted /home > # note: cryptomount -a does not work!!! > grub> cryptomount hd0,msdos3 > grub> insmod lvm > grub> ls >(crypto0) (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos5) > # note: did not need to decrypt / for this to work... > grub> configfile (hd0,1)/grub/grub.cfg.rpmsave > > # got old boot menu :-) > # boot into F29 > > # after boot... > > su > > # /sbin/grub2-install /dev/sda > # /sbin/reboot > > # reboot into F30 > # good as new... > > > > On 5/2/19 7:59 AM, David Dusanic wrote: > > Am 01.05.19 um 00:03 schrieb Chris Murphy: > >> Just a heads up that this can be an issue, but I'm not sure how common > >> it is. It applies to BIOS (not UEFI) firmware, and for systems that > >> originally had Fedora 20 or older installed and also never had > >> 'grub2-install' issued since then. Therefore it can be prevented just > >> by running 'grub2-install' before commencing the Fedora 30 upgrade. > >> > >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F30_bugs#GRUB_boot_menu_is_not_populated_after_an_upgrade > >> > >> > >> It's worth going through all the Common Bugs. > >> > > > > I am not entirely sure about this issue and now I have read all the > > posts about it and this Grub 'lesson' is just not getting into me. > > > > So far the upgrade went fine as usual in my case. And now why I am > > replying here. My legacy boot has Grub and instead of booting into the > > newest Fedora 30 kernel it boots by default into an older one from > > Fedora 29. I never saw this before. So I have to catch up before the > > Grub prompt automatically selects the second kernel in the boot menu. > > > > Anybody experiencing this? > > > > -- > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade
Am 01.05.19 um 00:03 schrieb Chris Murphy: Just a heads up that this can be an issue, but I'm not sure how common it is. It applies to BIOS (not UEFI) firmware, and for systems that originally had Fedora 20 or older installed and also never had 'grub2-install' issued since then. Therefore it can be prevented just by running 'grub2-install' before commencing the Fedora 30 upgrade. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F30_bugs#GRUB_boot_menu_is_not_populated_after_an_upgrade It's worth going through all the Common Bugs. I am not entirely sure about this issue and now I have read all the posts about it and this Grub 'lesson' is just not getting into me. So far the upgrade went fine as usual in my case. And now why I am replying here. My legacy boot has Grub and instead of booting into the newest Fedora 30 kernel it boots by default into an older one from Fedora 29. I never saw this before. So I have to catch up before the Grub prompt automatically selects the second kernel in the boot menu. Anybody experiencing this? -- David Dusanic ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade
On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 8:10 AM Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 5/1/19 8:24 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> It happens if the most recent 'grub2-install' happened with a Fedora >> 20 or older GRUB package. e.g. if you installed Fedora 20 clean, then >> did an OS upgrade every 6-12 months all the way through to Fedora 30, >> then you'd probably run into this bug. But if at any point from Fedora >> 21 and newer you ever did a 'grub2-install' you won't hit it. > > I am not sure if this applies in my case and don't have any possibility > to check for it anymore. > > The pecularity of my system, is it using a gpt formated boot disk though > it being a BIOS system (Using a 1M BIOS boot partition). > > Does Fedora's updater support this case? The installer does. The difference between dos- and gpt-labelled disks on bios firmware is that "core.img" is embedded in the MBR gap and in a bios-boot partition respectively. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:19 PM Charles R. Dennett wrote: > On 5/1/19 11:07 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 12:48 PM Charles R. Dennett >> wrote: >>> >>> Is there any way to tell just by looking for the presence or absence >>> of any particular file or directory that you would run into this >>> bug? >> >> Unless you're multi-booting and grub's managed by another >> distribution, you may as well run "grub2-install /dev/...". The bug >> report says that it's supposed to be fragile, but it last failed for >> me seven years ago (more or less) with "/boot" on mdraid1. Maybe I've >> just been lucky... > > I went ahead and run grub2-install /dev/sda and rebooted. All seems > well. No changes in the boot process that I could see. I still get the > kernel menu and then it boots and I get all the messages about what's > starting. (I removed the rhgb and quiet option years ago. As an old > retired Linux/Solaris admin I prefer to see things happening. It just > makes me feel better.) Good :) There shouldn't be a difference. BLS means that the grub menu's built from "/boot/loader/entries/*" instead of from a monolithic "/boor/grub2/grub.cfg". I had to use "grub2-switch-to-blscfg" for the switch to be made, for a new install using dnf instead of anaconda. The latter might set up BLS by default (does anyone know?). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade
On 5/1/19 8:24 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: It happens if the most recent 'grub2-install' happened with a Fedora 20 or older GRUB package. e.g. if you installed Fedora 20 clean, then did an OS upgrade every 6-12 months all the way through to Fedora 30, then you'd probably run into this bug. But if at any point from Fedora 21 and newer you ever did a 'grub2-install' you won't hit it. I am not sure if this applies in my case and don't have any possibility to check for it anymore. The pecularity of my system, is it using a gpt formated boot disk though it being a BIOS system (Using a 1M BIOS boot partition). Does Fedora's updater support this case? The installer does. Ralf ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade
On 5/1/19 11:07 AM, Tom H wrote: > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 12:48 PM Charles R. Dennett wrote: >> >> Is there any way to tell just by looking for the presence or absence >> of any particular file or directory that you would run into this >> bug? > > Unless you're multi-booting and grub's managed by another > distribution, you may as well run "grub2-install /dev/...". The bug > report says that it's supposed to be fragile, but it last failed for > me seven years ago (more or less) with "/boot" on mdraid1. Maybe I've > just been lucky... I went ahead and run grub2-install /dev/sda and rebooted. All seems well. No changes in the boot process that I could see. I still get the kernel menu and then it boots and I get all the messages about what's starting. (I removed the rhgb and quiet option years ago. As an old retired Linux/Solaris admin I prefer to see things happening. It just makes me feel better.) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 12:48 PM Charles R. Dennett wrote: > On 5/1/19 5:25 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 3:21 AM Todd Zullinger wrote: >>> >>> What I took from the prior wording is that if you installed Fedora >>> 20 or earlier and then only updated the OS since (and had not >>> manually run grub2-update), that you would hit this bug. >> >> "grub2-install" not "grub2-update". > > Is there any way to tell just by looking for the presence or absence > of any particular file or directory that you would run into this > bug? 1) The existence of "/boot/grub2/i386-pc/blscfg.mod" should be a good indication because it's an F29 addition (AFAIR). But I couldn't tell you whether the F29 version'll work correctly with the F30 version. Unless you're multi-booting and grub's managed by another distribution, you may as well run "grub2-install /dev/...". The bug report says that it's supposed to be fragile, but it last failed for me seven years ago (more or less) with "/boot" on mdraid1. Maybe I've just been lucky... Whether you're multi-booting or not, there's an invocation of "grub2-install" that doesn't update the MBR, "grub2-install --grub-setup=/bin/true /dev/...". In the early days of grub2 (v1.9[78]?), you could have boot problems if the versions of the modules embedded in the MBR/MBR-gap stages differed from the "/boot/grub/i386-pc" versions, but, AFAIK, this hasn't been an issue for a while. 2) You can compare the versions that are output by grep version /boot/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh and grub2-probe --version ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade
On 5/1/19 5:25 AM, Tom H wrote: > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 3:21 AM Todd Zullinger wrote: >> >> What I took from the prior wording is that if you installed Fedora >> 20 or earlier and then only updated the OS since (and had not >> manually run grub2-update), that you would hit this bug. > > "grub2-install" not "grub2-update". Is there any way to tell just by looking for the presence or absence of any particular file or directory that you would run into this bug? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 3:21 AM Todd Zullinger wrote: > > What I took from the prior wording is that if you installed Fedora > 20 or earlier and then only updated the OS since (and had not > manually run grub2-update), that you would hit this bug. "grub2-install" not "grub2-update". ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 2:49 AM Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 4:17 PM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: >> On Tue, 2019-04-30 at 16:03 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> >>> Just a heads up that this can be an issue, but I'm not sure how >>> common it is. It applies to BIOS (not UEFI) firmware, and for >>> systems that originally had Fedora 20 or older installed and also >>> never had 'grub2-install' issued since then. Therefore it can be >>> prevented just by running 'grub2-install' before commencing the >>> Fedora 30 upgrade. >>> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F30_bugs#GRUB_boot_menu_is_not_populated_after_an_upgrade >>> >>> It's worth going through all the Common Bugs. >> >> The text actually says: >> >> So if you have an installation that has been updated since Fedora >> 20 or before, it is recommended to execute the grub2-install >> command before doing a system upgrade. >> >> I assume that should say "... if you have an installation that has >> NOT been updated since Fedora 20 or before ..." > > Good catch. I fixed that, and made a few other clean ups, let me > know if you spot any other problems. Strictly speaking, grub has been updated if you've upgraded from F20 to F30. But the grub stages and the grub modules haven't been updated. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 7:21 PM Todd Zullinger wrote: > > Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 4:17 PM Patrick O'Callaghan > > wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, 2019-04-30 at 16:03 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >>> Just a heads up that this can be an issue, but I'm not sure how common > >>> it is. It applies to BIOS (not UEFI) firmware, and for systems that > >>> originally had Fedora 20 or older installed and also never had > >>> 'grub2-install' issued since then. Therefore it can be prevented just > >>> by running 'grub2-install' before commencing the Fedora 30 upgrade. > >>> > >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F30_bugs#GRUB_boot_menu_is_not_populated_after_an_upgrade > >>> > >>> It's worth going through all the Common Bugs. > >> > >> The text actually says: > >> > >>So if you have an installation that has been updated since Fedora 20 > >>or before, it is recommended to execute the grub2-install command > >>before doing a system upgrade. > >> > >> I assume that should say "... if you have an installation that has NOT > >> been updated since Fedora 20 or before ..." > > > > Good catch. I fixed that, and made a few other clean ups, let me know > > if you spot any other problems. > > I thing it was correct before, but perhaps it could still be > improved. (Obviously, the wording isn't as clear as it can > be or we wouldn't be having this conversation. ;) > > What I took from the prior wording is that if you installed > Fedora 20 or earlier and then only updated the OS since (and > had not manually run grub2-update), that you would hit this > bug. It happens if the most recent 'grub2-install' happened with a Fedora 20 or older GRUB package. e.g. if you installed Fedora 20 clean, then did an OS upgrade every 6-12 months all the way through to Fedora 30, then you'd probably run into this bug. But if at any point from Fedora 21 and newer you ever did a 'grub2-install' you won't hit it. -- Chris Murphy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade
Chris Murphy writes: On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 4:17 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-04-30 at 16:03 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Just a heads up that this can be an issue, but I'm not sure how common > > it is. It applies to BIOS (not UEFI) firmware, and for systems that > > originally had Fedora 20 or older installed and also never had > > 'grub2-install' issued since then. Therefore it can be prevented just > > by running 'grub2-install' before commencing the Fedora 30 upgrade. > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F30_bugs#GRUB_boot_menu_is_not_populated_after_an_upgrade > > > > It's worth going through all the Common Bugs. > > The text actually says: > >So if you have an installation that has been updated since Fedora 20 >or before, it is recommended to execute the grub2-install command >before doing a system upgrade. > > I assume that should say "... if you have an installation that has NOT > been updated since Fedora 20 or before ..." Good catch. I fixed that, and made a few other clean ups, let me know if you spot any other problems. Since grub2-install requires a parameter that specifies a boot device, it would be helpful to provide some pointers to figure out what your boot device is. pgp7ZdKvoedlm.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade
Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 4:17 PM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: >> >> On Tue, 2019-04-30 at 16:03 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> Just a heads up that this can be an issue, but I'm not sure how common >>> it is. It applies to BIOS (not UEFI) firmware, and for systems that >>> originally had Fedora 20 or older installed and also never had >>> 'grub2-install' issued since then. Therefore it can be prevented just >>> by running 'grub2-install' before commencing the Fedora 30 upgrade. >>> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F30_bugs#GRUB_boot_menu_is_not_populated_after_an_upgrade >>> >>> It's worth going through all the Common Bugs. >> >> The text actually says: >> >>So if you have an installation that has been updated since Fedora 20 >>or before, it is recommended to execute the grub2-install command >>before doing a system upgrade. >> >> I assume that should say "... if you have an installation that has NOT >> been updated since Fedora 20 or before ..." > > Good catch. I fixed that, and made a few other clean ups, let me know > if you spot any other problems. I thing it was correct before, but perhaps it could still be improved. (Obviously, the wording isn't as clear as it can be or we wouldn't be having this conversation. ;) What I took from the prior wording is that if you installed Fedora 20 or earlier and then only updated the OS since (and had not manually run grub2-update), that you would hit this bug. -- Todd signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 4:17 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-04-30 at 16:03 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Just a heads up that this can be an issue, but I'm not sure how common > > it is. It applies to BIOS (not UEFI) firmware, and for systems that > > originally had Fedora 20 or older installed and also never had > > 'grub2-install' issued since then. Therefore it can be prevented just > > by running 'grub2-install' before commencing the Fedora 30 upgrade. > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F30_bugs#GRUB_boot_menu_is_not_populated_after_an_upgrade > > > > It's worth going through all the Common Bugs. > > The text actually says: > >So if you have an installation that has been updated since Fedora 20 >or before, it is recommended to execute the grub2-install command >before doing a system upgrade. > > I assume that should say "... if you have an installation that has NOT > been updated since Fedora 20 or before ..." Good catch. I fixed that, and made a few other clean ups, let me know if you spot any other problems. -- Chris Murphy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade
On Tue, 2019-04-30 at 16:03 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > Just a heads up that this can be an issue, but I'm not sure how common > it is. It applies to BIOS (not UEFI) firmware, and for systems that > originally had Fedora 20 or older installed and also never had > 'grub2-install' issued since then. Therefore it can be prevented just > by running 'grub2-install' before commencing the Fedora 30 upgrade. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F30_bugs#GRUB_boot_menu_is_not_populated_after_an_upgrade > > It's worth going through all the Common Bugs. The text actually says: So if you have an installation that has been updated since Fedora 20 or before, it is recommended to execute the grub2-install command before doing a system upgrade. I assume that should say "... if you have an installation that has NOT been updated since Fedora 20 or before ..." poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org