Re: [OMPI users] relocating an installation

2019-04-10 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via users
To be clear, --prefix and OPAL_PREFIX do two different things:

1. "mpirun --prefix" and "/abs/path/to/mpirun" (both documented in mpirun(1)) 
are used to set PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH on remote nodes when invoked via 
ssh/rsh.  It's a way of not having to set your shell startup files to point to 
a specific Open MPI installation on remote nodes.  This is helpful for users 
who tend to swap between multiple Open MPI installations.

2. OPAL_PREFIX overrides the compiled-in location in Open MPI binaries and 
libraries for where it should find things like plugins and help files.  It is 
intended for use when you relocate Open MPI installations.

These two can be used in conjunction with each other, if desired, but they are 
intended for two different purposes.



> On Apr 10, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Reuti  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Am 10.04.2019 um 14:57 schrieb Dave Love :
>> 
>> In fact, setting OPAL_PREFIX doesn't work for a relocated tree (with
>> OMPI 1.10 or 3.0).  You also need $OPAL_PREFIX/lib and
>> $OPAL_PREFIX/lib/openmpi on LD_LIBRARY_PATH (assuming 
>> $MPI_LIB=$MPI_HOME/lib):
>> 
>> $ OPAL_PREFIX=$(pwd)/usr/lib64/openmpi3 ./usr/lib64/openmpi3/bin/mpirun 
>> mpirun true
>> ./usr/lib64/openmpi3/bin/mpirun: error while loading shared libraries: 
>> libopen-rte.so.40: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> Does export this OPAL_PREFIX also to all child processes? For me using export 
> OPAL_PREFIX=… beforehand worked up to now.
> 
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Re: [OMPI users] relocating an installation

2019-04-10 Thread Reuti

> Am 10.04.2019 um 14:57 schrieb Dave Love :
> 
> In fact, setting OPAL_PREFIX doesn't work for a relocated tree (with
> OMPI 1.10 or 3.0).  You also need $OPAL_PREFIX/lib and
> $OPAL_PREFIX/lib/openmpi on LD_LIBRARY_PATH (assuming $MPI_LIB=$MPI_HOME/lib):
> 
>  $ OPAL_PREFIX=$(pwd)/usr/lib64/openmpi3 ./usr/lib64/openmpi3/bin/mpirun 
> mpirun true
>  ./usr/lib64/openmpi3/bin/mpirun: error while loading shared libraries: 
> libopen-rte.so.40: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Does export this OPAL_PREFIX also to all child processes? For me using export 
OPAL_PREFIX=… beforehand worked up to now.

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Re: [OMPI users] relocating an installation

2019-04-10 Thread Dave Love
In fact, setting OPAL_PREFIX doesn't work for a relocated tree (with
OMPI 1.10 or 3.0).  You also need $OPAL_PREFIX/lib and
$OPAL_PREFIX/lib/openmpi on LD_LIBRARY_PATH (assuming $MPI_LIB=$MPI_HOME/lib):

  $ OPAL_PREFIX=$(pwd)/usr/lib64/openmpi3 ./usr/lib64/openmpi3/bin/mpirun 
mpirun true
  ./usr/lib64/openmpi3/bin/mpirun: error while loading shared libraries: 
libopen-rte.so.40: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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Re: [OMPI users] relocating an installation

2019-04-10 Thread Dave Love
"Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via users"  writes:

> Reuti's right.
>
> Sorry about the potentially misleading use of "--prefix" -- we
> basically inherited that CLI option from a different MPI
> implementation (i.e., people asked for it).  So we were locked into
> that meaning for the "--prefix" CLI options.

Reading more closely, I see it's only for remote hosts anyhow, but I'd
be surprised if only binaries and libraries were relocated from one
tree, and only hosts that somehow were distinguished from the one
invoking mpirun (et al).

Regardless, is there some problem just documenting the relevant
variables in the obvious places?
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Re: [OMPI users] relocating an installation

2019-04-10 Thread Dave Love
Reuti  writes:

>> It should be documented.
>
> There is this FAQ entry:
>
> https://www.open-mpi.org/faq/?category=building#installdirs

For what it's worth, I looked under "running" in the FAQ, as I was after
a runtime switch.  I expect FAQs to point to the actual documentation,
though, and an environment variables section of the man pages seems the
right place.  [I know you're only providing info, thanks.]
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Re: [OMPI users] relocating an installation

2019-04-09 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via users
Reuti's right.

Sorry about the potentially misleading use of "--prefix" -- we basically 
inherited that CLI option from a different MPI implementation (i.e., people 
asked for it).  So we were locked into that meaning for the "--prefix" CLI 
options.



> On Apr 9, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Reuti  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Am 09.04.2019 um 14:52 schrieb Dave Love :
>> 
>> Reuti  writes:
>> 
>>> export OPAL_PREFIX=
>>> 
>>> to point it to the new location of installation before you start `mpiexec`.
>> 
>> Thanks; that's now familiar, and I don't know how I missed it with
>> strings.
>> 
>> It should be documented.
> 
> There is this FAQ entry:
> 
> https://www.open-mpi.org/faq/?category=building#installdirs
> 
> -- Reuti
> 
> 
>> I'd have expected --prefix to have the same
>> effect, and for there to be an MCA variable.  Would there be some
>> problem with either of those?
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Re: [OMPI users] relocating an installation

2019-04-09 Thread Reuti


> Am 09.04.2019 um 14:52 schrieb Dave Love :
> 
> Reuti  writes:
> 
>> export OPAL_PREFIX=
>> 
>> to point it to the new location of installation before you start `mpiexec`.
> 
> Thanks; that's now familiar, and I don't know how I missed it with
> strings.
> 
> It should be documented.

There is this FAQ entry:

https://www.open-mpi.org/faq/?category=building#installdirs

-- Reuti


>  I'd have expected --prefix to have the same
> effect, and for there to be an MCA variable.  Would there be some
> problem with either of those?
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Re: [OMPI users] relocating an installation

2019-04-09 Thread Gilles Gouaillardet
Dave,

Can you please  post the configure command line of the Open MPI you are trying 
to relocate ?

Cheers,

Gilles

Dave Love  wrote:
>Reuti  writes:
>
>> export OPAL_PREFIX=
>>
>> to point it to the new location of installation before you start `mpiexec`.
>
>Thanks; that's now familiar, and I don't know how I missed it with
>strings.
>
>It should be documented.  I'd have expected --prefix to have the same
>effect, and for there to be an MCA variable.  Would there be some
>problem with either of those?
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Re: [OMPI users] relocating an installation

2019-04-09 Thread Dave Love
Reuti  writes:

> export OPAL_PREFIX=
>
> to point it to the new location of installation before you start `mpiexec`.

Thanks; that's now familiar, and I don't know how I missed it with
strings.

It should be documented.  I'd have expected --prefix to have the same
effect, and for there to be an MCA variable.  Would there be some
problem with either of those?
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Re: [OMPI users] relocating an installation

2019-04-09 Thread Reuti
Hi,

> Am 09.04.2019 um 13:31 schrieb Dave Love :
> 
> Is it possible to use the environment or mpirun flags to run an OMPI
> that's been relocated from where it was configured/installed?  (Say
> you've unpacked a system package that expects to be under /usr and want
> to run it from home without containers etc.)  I thought that was
> possible, but I haven't found a way that works.  Using --prefix doesn't
> find help files, at least.

export OPAL_PREFIX=

to point it to the new location of installation before you start `mpiexec`.

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Re: [OMPI users] Relocating an Installation

2006-12-16 Thread Jeff Squyres

Greetings Allen.

This problem has not yet been resolved, but I'm quite sure we have an  
open ticket about this on our bug tracker.  I just replied to Patrick  
on-list about a related issue (his use of --prefix); I'd have to  
think about this a bit more, but a solution proposed by one of the  
other OMPI developers in internal conversations may fix both issues.   
It only hasn't been coded up because we didn't prioritize it high.


So my question to you is -- how high of a priority is this for you?   
Part of what makes it into each OMPI release is driven by what users  
want/need, so input like this helps us prioritize the work.


Thanks!


On Dec 13, 2006, at 10:37 AM, Allen Barnett wrote:


There was a thread back in November started by Patrick Jessee about
relocating an installation after it was built (the subject was:  
removing
hard-coded paths from OpenMPI shared libraries). I guess I'm in the  
same
boat now. I would like to distribute our OpenMPI-based parallel  
solver;

but I can't really dictate where a user will install our software. Has
any one succeeded in building a version of OpenMPI which can be
relocated?


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