Re: Page Header Assistance

2016-09-21 Thread Rory O'Farrell 
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 01:06:09 +
toki  wrote:

> 
> Ponder on why, for what the OP wants, they have to create the page style
> for the last page first, and the page style for the first page, last.
> Then factor into consideration what happens, if they get the number of
> pages for a specific section wrong.
> 
> jonathon
> 

My advice in my earlier postings on this thread was directed to the OP.  I have 
not time or inclination to address the unfamiliarity with use of Page Styles in 
OpenOffice reflected by some of the other posters, who may continue to use or 
not use Page Styles as they in their confusion may think fit.  

As I am about to travel abroad to fill a long standing commitment to attend an 
overseas conference  I will be offline for about a week and shall make no 
further contribution to this thread.


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Re: Page Header Assistance

2016-09-20 Thread Martin Groenescheij 



On 21/09/16 4:18 AM, toki wrote:

On 20/09/2016 Rory wrote:


You need to use a different page style every time the page header changes.  
Details are given in this tutorial

Whether or not a new page style is needed for each even page, depends
upon the source of the headers.  If it were, say, chapter headings, then
only two page styles are needed --- LeftPage and RightPage.

If every even page needs its custom, non-sourceable header, then a page
style for each page _might_ be needed. This is doable, but extremely
tricky. Anybody going this route needs to think long and hard about why
each page needs a custom, non-sourceable header, before tackling it.

If one is experienced at constructing page styles, it will take between
10 and 20 attempts, to get the pages to flow correctly.


I consider someone that need 10 to 20 attempts as inexperienced


If one is not experienced with creating page styles, then budget at least 500
attempts, to get the pages to look the way they should, and flow
smoothly into each other. IOW, this is not for the feint-hearted.

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RE: Page Header Assistance

2016-09-20 Thread toki 
Roy wrote:

>I gave the simple answer

Simple ≠ usable.

More pointedly, the cited web page doesn't mention that for your
proposed solution, one creates that last page _first_.
(If you start with the first page, you triple the amount of work needed
to create pages that flow together properly.)
>no need to go into complexities if the OP is already baffled.  

That bafflement is precisely why the OP should be told how complicated
their proposal is.
That the first hundred plus attempts to create the pages probably will
not produce the desired results.
(Maybe if somebody sends them detailed, step by step instructions, for
creating the first ten to twenty pages,
they might not give up in frustration. I pointedly will not write such
instructions, because it only not
only encourages non-existent project management and planning, but
actively promotes bad design.
CF: Tufte, Edward (2001) _The Visual Display of Quantitative
Information_ Cheshire CT: Graphics Press. ISBN 0-9613921-4-2

jonathon



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Re: Page Header Assistance

2016-09-20 Thread Rory O'Farrell 
On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:18:18 +
toki  wrote:

> On 20/09/2016 Rory wrote:
> 
> > You need to use a different page style every time the page header changes.  
> > Details are given in this tutorial
> 
> Whether or not a new page style is needed for each even page, depends
> upon the source of the headers.  If it were, say, chapter headings, then
> only two page styles are needed --- LeftPage and RightPage.
> 
> If every even page needs its custom, non-sourceable header, then a page
> style for each page _might_ be needed. This is doable, but extremely
> tricky. Anybody going this route needs to think long and hard about why
> each page needs a custom, non-sourceable header, before tackling it.
> 
> If one is experienced at constructing page styles, it will take between
> 10 and 20 attempts, to get the pages to flow correctly. If one is not
> experienced with creating page styles, then budget at least 500
> attempts, to get the pages to look the way they should, and flow
> smoothly into each other. IOW, this is not for the feint-hearted.
> 
> jonathon
> 

I gave the simple answer - no need to go into complexities if the OP is already 
baffled.  

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Re: Page Header Assistance

2016-09-20 Thread toki 
On 20/09/2016 Rory wrote:

> You need to use a different page style every time the page header changes.  
> Details are given in this tutorial

Whether or not a new page style is needed for each even page, depends
upon the source of the headers.  If it were, say, chapter headings, then
only two page styles are needed --- LeftPage and RightPage.

If every even page needs its custom, non-sourceable header, then a page
style for each page _might_ be needed. This is doable, but extremely
tricky. Anybody going this route needs to think long and hard about why
each page needs a custom, non-sourceable header, before tackling it.

If one is experienced at constructing page styles, it will take between
10 and 20 attempts, to get the pages to flow correctly. If one is not
experienced with creating page styles, then budget at least 500
attempts, to get the pages to look the way they should, and flow
smoothly into each other. IOW, this is not for the feint-hearted.

jonathon

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Re: Page Header Assistance

2016-09-20 Thread Rory O'Farrell 
On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:33:03 +
James Portillo  wrote:

> I am trying to have a different header title on each page but it is 
> automatically copying the prior headers content. For instance I want to first 
> head to have a certain title, page two I can edit, but then page 3 copies the 
> first pages' title?
> 
> I have tried the community forum and have tried the steps but it is still not 
> working. I have tried to make this issue as clear as possible. Please let me 
> know if you have questions. Thank you in advance for your help.
> 
> 
> 
> James Portillo
> 

You need to use a different page style every time the page header changes.  
Details are given in this tutorial
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71=44607


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