Re: .pdf files

[Bret Busby]

On 26/3/24 22:23, ACG wrote:

Dear All,

I hope you will consider this problem for a future update:

I get very frustrated with attached pdf files.
If I want to open one, Thunderbird simply opens it in another tab 
within Thunderbird! This is absolutely not what I want.
As a result I am faced with the laborious process of deciding where to 
save it then save it then open it in Acrobat reader.
How much better it would be for the file to open in Reader and when I 
have looked at it then I can decide what (if anything) to do with it.
My recollection is vague, but such as it is I seem to think that this 
opening within Thunderbird is a relative innovation.


The same thing does not happen with eg jpg or xls or odt where 
Thunderbird asks me to choose what to do.


I can see that there may be people who may be of the view that opening a 
pdf in Thunderbird is a step forward - thus eg you don't actually need 
Reader on the same device as Thunderbird, but at the same time I cannot 
see that removing the option to open in Reader is a good thing.


So please could pdf files join the rest or at least have the option to 
do so.
If you really wanted to make Thunderbird Rolls Royce, then the clever 
thing to do would be to allow the user to nominate default solutions for 
each file type.


Adrian Grant



If you had instead, posted the above message to (after subscribing to) 
the appropriate software mailing list -


https://groups.io/g/ThunderbirdEmail

stating the version of Thunderbird that you are using, and the operating 
system platform upon which you are running Thunderbird, you should 
probably find that your request is superfluous.


As a user of Thunderbird (102.4.2 (64-bit) running on Linux Mint 21.2 ), 
and, NOT displaying attachments inline, PDF files, as attachments, give 
the option of either saving them, or, opening them with a choice of 
application with which to open them.



Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
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Re: .pdf files

[ACG]

Oooops... sorry about this... should have directed to Mozilla rather than OO

Adrian Grant


On 26/03/2024 14:23, ACG wrote:

Dear All,

I hope you will consider this problem for a future update:

I get very frustrated with attached pdf files.
If I want to open one, Thunderbird simply opens it in another tab 
within Thunderbird! This is absolutely not what I want.
As a result I am faced with the laborious process of deciding where to 
save it then save it then open it in Acrobat reader.
How much better it would be for the file to open in Reader and when I 
have looked at it then I can decide what (if anything) to do with it.
My recollection is vague, but such as it is I seem to think that this 
opening within Thunderbird is a relative innovation.


The same thing does not happen with eg jpg or xls or odt where 
Thunderbird asks me to choose what to do.


I can see that there may be people who may be of the view that opening 
a pdf in Thunderbird is a step forward - thus eg you don't actually 
need Reader on the same device as Thunderbird, but at the same time I 
cannot see that removing the option to open in Reader is a good thing.


So please could pdf files join the rest or at least have the option to 
do so.
If you really wanted to make Thunderbird Rolls Royce, then the clever 
thing to do would be to allow the user to nominate default solutions 
for each file type.


Adrian Grant

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Re: PDF to odt problem

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Here's a link to useful information about how to convert PDF to Word using 
Foxit: 
https://kb.foxit.com/hc/en-us/articles/360040242172-How-to-export-PDF-file-to-Word-file-.
 They also offer free on-line PDF-to-Word conversions: 
https://www.foxit.com/pdf-to-word/. It may be worth a try.
- Robert


From: ELAINE MURSZEWSKI 
Sent: December 15, 2023 13:21
To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
Subject: Re: PDF to odt problem

Try a free program called FoxIt Reader.  If I remember correctly you can take a 
pdf and save it as a word document.  After it's in Word format, you can save it 
as odt.
The best job goes to the person who can get it done without passing the buck or 
coming back with excuses. ~~ Napoleon Hill

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 01:11:59 PM EST, William Morder 
 wrote:


There is perhaps a way to do this, but it's probably for Linux only. And even
so, if you can do it, it probably won't be quite what you want (that is,
pdf-to-odt format).

It's possible to extract the text from a pdf. The Linux tool is called
pdftotext, and there are probably applications like it for Windoze and the
rotten Apple, but again, they only extract text.

If I were faced with this problem, I would try copying the text from the pdf,
if your pdf reader will allow it. (Again, I am running Linux, so this usually
isn't a problem.) Then I would paste the text into a blank odt document, one
paragraph at a time. Or -- if the document isn't too long -- I would print
out the pdf, or open it in your pdf reader, then type it in by hand.

I know this probably isn't the solution you want, but there really aren't many
other solutions. A pdf document is essentially a photograph of a text
document. The actual text in the document is now only a picture of each page.

Good luck!

Bill




On Friday 15 December 2023 09:33:18 Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 17:07:44 +
>
> "W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof."  wrote:
> > I assume that by 'totally distorted' Yvonne meant that the text was
> > present but the formatting was scrambled. If that is the case, I don't
> > think that optical character recognition (OCR) software would do any
> > better, and it might introduce errors in the text itself.
> >
> > I'm not aware of any better solution than using PDF-to-text conversion
> > software, which is what I assume the Best Buy people did. It might be
> > worth looking for such software that does a better job of reproducing the
> > original formatting. In my experience, a fair amount of manual editing is
> > required, depending on how complicated the formatting was.
> >
> > - Robert
>
> Almost every OCR program which produces plain text will require substantial
> reformatting, which the proposed alterations may well require anyway.  OCR,
> no matter how accurately carried out, will have a small error rate: in my
> experience 1% to 2%, which will require detailed proofreadng and
> correction.
>
> Some careful searching may reveal PDF to ODT conversion programs that
> preserve formatting, but the need for detailed proofreading and correction
> will still exist. On the occasions I OCR long texts, I always reformat.
>
> Rory
>
> > ____________
> > From: Terence Warby 
> > Sent: December 15, 2023 10:38
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> > Subject: Re: PDF to odt problem
> >
> > I think the best thing to do is to run the pdf file through an OCR
> > program. This will recover the text and you can the edit this in
> > OpenOffice writer. Hope this helps. 
> > From: AOL Mail 
> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 1:14:50 AM
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> > Subject: PDF to odt problem
> >
> > I am trying to change a PDF file to odt.  I also take it to Best Buy and
> > when the techs converted it to odt and wanted to open it on Open Office
> > --- it was totally distorted.  If I send you a PDF file can you convert
> > it for me to odt, please.  It is a book my husband, who is an author,
> > wrote, and it needs some changes.  My odt files disappeared, so the only
> > way out is converting a PDF to odt. I will really appreciate it very much
> > Yvonne Barkhuizen

Re: PDF to odt problem

[dkoch]

There is a means to convert PDF files to Word files. You can then save them as 
ODT, though if there is special formatting in Word, the conversion may not be 
exact.

Foxit has a PDF Editor, as well as a free Reader version. The Editor is often 
available for a free trial period after you download the free Reader. A line 
from their web page describes the process of PDF to Word conversion:

      1.  Open the pdf file with Foxit PDF Editor, go to Convert tab>To MS 
office> Word or File tab>Export>To MS Office>Word>Save As, Save As window will 
pop up.
I do not have the Editor version, so don't know if it will also convert 
directly to ODT.

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Dec 15, 2023, 11:08 by robert.funn...@mcgill.ca:

> I assume that by 'totally distorted' Yvonne meant that the text was present 
> but the formatting was scrambled. If that is the case, I don't think that 
> optical character recognition (OCR) software would do any better, and it 
> might introduce errors in the text itself.
>
> I'm not aware of any better solution than using PDF-to-text conversion 
> software, which is what I assume the Best Buy people did. It might be worth 
> looking for such software that does a better job of reproducing the original 
> formatting. In my experience, a fair amount of manual editing is required, 
> depending on how complicated the formatting was.
>
> - Robert
>
> 
> From: Terence Warby 
> Sent: December 15, 2023 10:38
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> Subject: Re: PDF to odt problem
>
> I think the best thing to do is to run the pdf file through an OCR program. 
> This will recover the text and you can the edit this in OpenOffice writer. 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> From: AOL Mail 
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 1:14:50 AM
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> Subject: PDF to odt problem
>
> I am trying to change a PDF file to odt.  I also take it to Best Buy and when 
> the techs converted it to odt and wanted to open it on Open Office --- it was 
> totally distorted.  If I send you a PDF file can you convert it for me to 
> odt, please.  It is a book my husband, who is an author, wrote, and it needs 
> some changes.  My odt files disappeared, so the only way out is converting a 
> PDF to odt.
> I will really appreciate it very much
> Yvonne Barkhuizen
>

Re: PDF to odt problem

[ELAINE MURSZEWSKI]

Try a free program called FoxIt Reader.  If I remember correctly you can take a 
pdf and save it as a word document.  After it's in Word format, you can save it 
as odt. 
The best job goes to the person who can get it done without passing the buck or 
coming back with excuses. ~~ Napoleon Hill 

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 01:11:59 PM EST, William Morder 
 wrote:  
 
 
There is perhaps a way to do this, but it's probably for Linux only. And even 
so, if you can do it, it probably won't be quite what you want (that is, 
pdf-to-odt format). 

It's possible to extract the text from a pdf. The Linux tool is called 
pdftotext, and there are probably applications like it for Windoze and the 
rotten Apple, but again, they only extract text. 

If I were faced with this problem, I would try copying the text from the pdf, 
if your pdf reader will allow it. (Again, I am running Linux, so this usually 
isn't a problem.) Then I would paste the text into a blank odt document, one 
paragraph at a time. Or -- if the document isn't too long -- I would print 
out the pdf, or open it in your pdf reader, then type it in by hand. 

I know this probably isn't the solution you want, but there really aren't many 
other solutions. A pdf document is essentially a photograph of a text 
document. The actual text in the document is now only a picture of each page. 

Good luck! 

Bill




On Friday 15 December 2023 09:33:18 Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 17:07:44 +
>
> "W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof."  wrote:
> > I assume that by 'totally distorted' Yvonne meant that the text was
> > present but the formatting was scrambled. If that is the case, I don't
> > think that optical character recognition (OCR) software would do any
> > better, and it might introduce errors in the text itself.
> >
> > I'm not aware of any better solution than using PDF-to-text conversion
> > software, which is what I assume the Best Buy people did. It might be
> > worth looking for such software that does a better job of reproducing the
> > original formatting. In my experience, a fair amount of manual editing is
> > required, depending on how complicated the formatting was.
> >
> > - Robert
>
> Almost every OCR program which produces plain text will require substantial
> reformatting, which the proposed alterations may well require anyway.  OCR,
> no matter how accurately carried out, will have a small error rate: in my
> experience 1% to 2%, which will require detailed proofreadng and
> correction.
>
> Some careful searching may reveal PDF to ODT conversion programs that
> preserve formatting, but the need for detailed proofreading and correction
> will still exist. On the occasions I OCR long texts, I always reformat.
>
> Rory
>
> > ____________
> > From: Terence Warby 
> > Sent: December 15, 2023 10:38
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> > Subject: Re: PDF to odt problem
> >
> > I think the best thing to do is to run the pdf file through an OCR
> > program. This will recover the text and you can the edit this in
> > OpenOffice writer. Hope this helps. 
> > From: AOL Mail 
> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 1:14:50 AM
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> > Subject: PDF to odt problem
> >
> > I am trying to change a PDF file to odt.  I also take it to Best Buy and
> > when the techs converted it to odt and wanted to open it on Open Office
> > --- it was totally distorted.  If I send you a PDF file can you convert
> > it for me to odt, please.  It is a book my husband, who is an author,
> > wrote, and it needs some changes.  My odt files disappeared, so the only
> > way out is converting a PDF to odt. I will really appreciate it very much
> > Yvonne Barkhuizen


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Re: PDF to odt problem

[William Morder]

There is perhaps a way to do this, but it's probably for Linux only. And even 
so, if you can do it, it probably won't be quite what you want (that is, 
pdf-to-odt format). 

It's possible to extract the text from a pdf. The Linux tool is called 
pdftotext, and there are probably applications like it for Windoze and the 
rotten Apple, but again, they only extract text. 

If I were faced with this problem, I would try copying the text from the pdf, 
if your pdf reader will allow it. (Again, I am running Linux, so this usually 
isn't a problem.) Then I would paste the text into a blank odt document, one 
paragraph at a time. Or -- if the document isn't too long -- I would print 
out the pdf, or open it in your pdf reader, then type it in by hand. 

I know this probably isn't the solution you want, but there really aren't many 
other solutions. A pdf document is essentially a photograph of a text 
document. The actual text in the document is now only a picture of each page. 

Good luck! 

Bill




On Friday 15 December 2023 09:33:18 Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 17:07:44 +
>
> "W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof."  wrote:
> > I assume that by 'totally distorted' Yvonne meant that the text was
> > present but the formatting was scrambled. If that is the case, I don't
> > think that optical character recognition (OCR) software would do any
> > better, and it might introduce errors in the text itself.
> >
> > I'm not aware of any better solution than using PDF-to-text conversion
> > software, which is what I assume the Best Buy people did. It might be
> > worth looking for such software that does a better job of reproducing the
> > original formatting. In my experience, a fair amount of manual editing is
> > required, depending on how complicated the formatting was.
> >
> > - Robert
>
> Almost every OCR program which produces plain text will require substantial
> reformatting, which the proposed alterations may well require anyway.  OCR,
> no matter how accurately carried out, will have a small error rate: in my
> experience 1% to 2%, which will require detailed proofreadng and
> correction.
>
> Some careful searching may reveal PDF to ODT conversion programs that
> preserve formatting, but the need for detailed proofreading and correction
> will still exist. On the occasions I OCR long texts, I always reformat.
>
> Rory
>
> > ____________
> > From: Terence Warby 
> > Sent: December 15, 2023 10:38
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> > Subject: Re: PDF to odt problem
> >
> > I think the best thing to do is to run the pdf file through an OCR
> > program. This will recover the text and you can the edit this in
> > OpenOffice writer. Hope this helps. 
> > From: AOL Mail 
> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 1:14:50 AM
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> > Subject: PDF to odt problem
> >
> > I am trying to change a PDF file to odt.  I also take it to Best Buy and
> > when the techs converted it to odt and wanted to open it on Open Office
> > --- it was totally distorted.  If I send you a PDF file can you convert
> > it for me to odt, please.  It is a book my husband, who is an author,
> > wrote, and it needs some changes.  My odt files disappeared, so the only
> > way out is converting a PDF to odt. I will really appreciate it very much
> > Yvonne Barkhuizen


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Re: PDF to odt problem

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 17:07:44 +
"W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof."  wrote:

> I assume that by 'totally distorted' Yvonne meant that the text was present 
> but the formatting was scrambled. If that is the case, I don't think that 
> optical character recognition (OCR) software would do any better, and it 
> might introduce errors in the text itself.
> 
> I'm not aware of any better solution than using PDF-to-text conversion 
> software, which is what I assume the Best Buy people did. It might be worth 
> looking for such software that does a better job of reproducing the original 
> formatting. In my experience, a fair amount of manual editing is required, 
> depending on how complicated the formatting was.
> 
> - Robert

Almost every OCR program which produces plain text will require substantial 
reformatting, which the proposed alterations may well require anyway.  OCR, no 
matter how accurately carried out, will have a small error rate: in my 
experience 1% to 2%, which will require detailed proofreadng and correction.

Some careful searching may reveal PDF to ODT conversion programs that preserve 
formatting, but the need for detailed proofreading and correction will still 
exist. On the occasions I OCR long texts, I always reformat. 

Rory 
> 
> From: Terence Warby 
> Sent: December 15, 2023 10:38
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> Subject: Re: PDF to odt problem
> 
> I think the best thing to do is to run the pdf file through an OCR program. 
> This will recover the text and you can the edit this in OpenOffice writer. 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> From: AOL Mail 
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 1:14:50 AM
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> Subject: PDF to odt problem
> 
> I am trying to change a PDF file to odt.  I also take it to Best Buy and when 
> the techs converted it to odt and wanted to open it on Open Office --- it was 
> totally distorted.  If I send you a PDF file can you convert it for me to 
> odt, please.  It is a book my husband, who is an author, wrote, and it needs 
> some changes.  My odt files disappeared, so the only way out is converting a 
> PDF to odt.
> I will really appreciate it very much
> Yvonne Barkhuizen


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Re: PDF to odt problem

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

I assume that by 'totally distorted' Yvonne meant that the text was present but 
the formatting was scrambled. If that is the case, I don't think that optical 
character recognition (OCR) software would do any better, and it might 
introduce errors in the text itself.

I'm not aware of any better solution than using PDF-to-text conversion 
software, which is what I assume the Best Buy people did. It might be worth 
looking for such software that does a better job of reproducing the original 
formatting. In my experience, a fair amount of manual editing is required, 
depending on how complicated the formatting was.

- Robert


From: Terence Warby 
Sent: December 15, 2023 10:38
To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
Subject: Re: PDF to odt problem

I think the best thing to do is to run the pdf file through an OCR program. 
This will recover the text and you can the edit this in OpenOffice writer. Hope 
this helps.

From: AOL Mail 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 1:14:50 AM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
Subject: PDF to odt problem

I am trying to change a PDF file to odt.  I also take it to Best Buy and when 
the techs converted it to odt and wanted to open it on Open Office --- it was 
totally distorted.  If I send you a PDF file can you convert it for me to odt, 
please.  It is a book my husband, who is an author, wrote, and it needs some 
changes.  My odt files disappeared, so the only way out is converting a PDF to 
odt.
I will really appreciate it very much
Yvonne Barkhuizen

Re: PDF to odt problem

[Terence Warby]

I think the best thing to do is to run the pdf file through an OCR program. 
This will recover the text and you can the edit this in OpenOffice writer. Hope 
this helps.


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From: AOL Mail 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 1:14:50 AM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
Subject: PDF to odt problem

I am trying to change a PDF file to odt.  I also take it to Best Buy and when 
the techs converted it to odt and wanted to open it on Open Office --- it was 
totally distorted.  If I send you a PDF file can you convert it for me to odt, 
please.  It is a book my husband, who is an author, wrote, and it needs some 
changes.  My odt files disappeared, so the only way out is converting a PDF to 
odt.
I will really appreciate it very much
Yvonne Barkhuizen

RE: PDF Problem

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hallo, 

> From: technik_...@jrsch.de [mailto:technik_...@jrsch.de] 
> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 3:52 PM
> To: users-de@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: PDF Problem
> 
> 
> Am 31.03.2020 um 09:58 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
> > Hallo,

> > Lade dazu die Extension herunter und installiere sie in 
> OpenOffice über Extras-Extensionmanager.
> 
> Habe ich versucht, aber bei mir gibt es eine Fehlermeldung. 
> Ich brauche 
> es auch nicht unbedingt, deshalb habe ich nicht weiter 
> nachgeforscht warum.

Du kannst gerne hier posten welche AOO-Version Du nutzt und welche 
Fehlermeldung kommt, vielleicht gibt es eine Lösung.

Ich selbst setze die Extension kaum ein und wo ich das (vor vielleicht 2 
Jahren?) das letzte Mal tat, gab es keine Probleme, an die ich mich erinnere.



Gruß
Jörg


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Re: PDF Problem

[technik_...@jrsch.de]

Am 31.03.2020 um 09:58 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:

Hallo,


-Original Message-
From: Karina Esche [mailto:eschekar...@aol.de.INVALID]
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 6:13 PM
To: users-de@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: PDF Problem

Hallo, ich kann, wenn ich eine Mail mit einem Anhang (PDF -
Format) erhalte, diesen nicht öffnen? Was kann ich tun?
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Karina Esche

FALLS sich die Frage darauf bezieht das Du gehört hast das man mit OpenOffice 
PDF bearbeiten (und also dazu auch öffnen kann), so gilt:

Ja, das geht, aberr dazu musst Du vorher diese Extension installieren:
https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/pdf-import-apache-openoffice

Lade dazu die Extension herunter und installiere sie in OpenOffice über 
Extras-Extensionmanager.


Habe ich versucht, aber bei mir gibt es eine Fehlermeldung. Ich brauche 
es auch nicht unbedingt, deshalb habe ich nicht weiter nachgeforscht warum.





Danach kannst Du PDF in OpenOffice öffnen (sie öffnen sich im Zeichenprogramm 
(Draw) von OPenOffice) und Bearbeiten.


Gruß
Jörg


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RE: PDF Problem

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hallo, 

> -Original Message-
> From: Karina Esche [mailto:eschekar...@aol.de.INVALID] 
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 6:13 PM
> To: users-de@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: PDF Problem
> 
> Hallo, ich kann, wenn ich eine Mail mit einem Anhang (PDF - 
> Format) erhalte, diesen nicht öffnen? Was kann ich tun?
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> Karina Esche

FALLS sich die Frage darauf bezieht das Du gehört hast das man mit OpenOffice 
PDF bearbeiten (und also dazu auch öffnen kann), so gilt:

Ja, das geht, aberr dazu musst Du vorher diese Extension installieren:
https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/pdf-import-apache-openoffice

Lade dazu die Extension herunter und installiere sie in OpenOffice über 
Extras-Extensionmanager.

Danach kannst Du PDF in OpenOffice öffnen (sie öffnen sich im Zeichenprogramm 
(Draw) von OPenOffice) und Bearbeiten.


Gruß
Jörg


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Re: PDF Problem

[Wolfgang Jäth]

Am 30.03.2020 um 18:12 schrieb Karina Esche:
> Hallo, ich kann, wenn ich eine Mail mit einem Anhang (PDF - Format) erhalte, 
> diesen nicht öffnen? Was kann ich tun?

Das PDF-Format ist ein eigenes Format, dafür benötigst du einen
PDF-Reader wie z.B. den Adobe Acrobat Reader.

Wolfgang
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Re: PDF Problem

[Mechtilde]

Hallo Karina,

bitte nutze dazu eine Programm, dass PDFs öffnet. Welche Programm das
ist, hängt von Deinem Betriebssystem ab. Unter Windows z.b. Sumatra PDF.

Viele Grüße

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> diesen nicht öffnen? Was kann ich tun?
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Re: PDF question

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On 10/1/20 6:16 am, Karen Berinsky wrote:

How do I open a PDF that was scanned and is in my OpenOffice?  Also, I have no 
idea how to ask a question in for forum.



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Re: PDF question

[Dave AOO]

 Original Message 
From: Karen Berinsky [mailto:pghzool...@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020, 19:46 UTC
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: PDF question

> How do I open a PDF that was scanned and is in my OpenOffice?  Also, I have 
> no idea how to ask a question in for forum.

Scanned images are just like photographs (bitmaps = just a series of
dots that make up a picture). To turn scanned text into editable text
you have to process the image through OCR (Optical Character
Recognition) software.
There are numerous commercial OCR packages available, but if you you
only want to convert the occasional image you might consider free
options such as:
On-line: https://www.onlineocr.net/
Installed|: http://www.paperfile.net/

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Re: PDF form text input font/size

[Martin Groenescheij]

On 23/1/19 05:08, Craig Russell wrote:

Hi David,


On Jan 22, 2019, at 6:33 PM, David Belina  wrote:

In Design mode if you left double click the field, about 2/3ds of the way down 
you can find font and colors/etc.

I'm using a Mac and don't know how to left double click the field.

This means click twice on the left side of your mouse.

  If I control click or two-finger click the field I get a menu: Position and 
Size..., Description..., Name..., Control..., Form..., etc.

Wonderful, now select Control from the menu.


Are font and colors etc. in one of these sub-menus or how do I left double 
click?


In the Control menu scroll down till you see the Font selection field
here your able to change fonts and colors.




The UI people really did this backwards of what Word, etc users are used to 
doing (right click for variations of the box).

Not sure about the Field name, unless you use the option in the dialog box 
opened as above.


I found Label Field in Properties: Formatted Field menu and it looks like I 
might have to create label fields for all the input fields. Sigh.

Thanks,

Craig


On January 22, 2019 at 7:08:58 PM, Craig Russell (apache@gmail.com 
) wrote:


Hi,

I'm re-working a pdf form created via OpenOffice and saved as PDF. 
http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf

I've attached the document here but don't know if this list accepts large-ish 
attachments.

One trouble with this form is that I don't know how to control the input field 
text font/size. I'd like to specify that the fields be filled with Courier 12 
point.

Many of the filled documents have text that is just to big for the fields. And 
some are colored purple!

Is there a way to specify the font/size/color? I don't see an option for this when 
in design mode. If I highlight the form field, the options on the right menu are 
Properties: Width: 5.9" and Keep ratio. Styles and Formatting have no options.

And as long as I'm working on this form, I'd like to be able to choose the text in the document 
that is highlighted when the user is in a form field. For example, when the user is entering data 
in the Full Name field, I'd like "Full name" to be highlighted. As it is, just 
"name" is highlighted.

Any help appreciated.

Craig


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Re: PDF form text input font/size

[Craig Russell]

Hi David,

> On Jan 22, 2019, at 6:33 PM, David Belina  wrote:
> 
> In Design mode if you left double click the field, about 2/3ds of the way 
> down you can find font and colors/etc.  

I'm using a Mac and don't know how to left double click the field. If I control 
click or two-finger click the field I get a menu: Position and Size..., 
Description..., Name..., Control..., Form..., etc.

Are font and colors etc. in one of these sub-menus or how do I left double 
click?

> The UI people really did this backwards of what Word, etc users are used to 
> doing (right click for variations of the box).
> 
> Not sure about the Field name, unless you use the option in the dialog box 
> opened as above.
> 
I found Label Field in Properties: Formatted Field menu and it looks like I 
might have to create label fields for all the input fields. Sigh.

Thanks,

Craig

> 
> On January 22, 2019 at 7:08:58 PM, Craig Russell (apache@gmail.com 
> ) wrote:
> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> I'm re-working a pdf form created via OpenOffice and saved as PDF. 
>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf 
>> 
>> I've attached the document here but don't know if this list accepts 
>> large-ish attachments. 
>> 
>> One trouble with this form is that I don't know how to control the input 
>> field text font/size. I'd like to specify that the fields be filled with 
>> Courier 12 point. 
>> 
>> Many of the filled documents have text that is just to big for the fields. 
>> And some are colored purple! 
>> 
>> Is there a way to specify the font/size/color? I don't see an option for 
>> this when in design mode. If I highlight the form field, the options on the 
>> right menu are Properties: Width: 5.9" and Keep ratio. Styles and Formatting 
>> have no options.  
>> 
>> And as long as I'm working on this form, I'd like to be able to choose the 
>> text in the document that is highlighted when the user is in a form field. 
>> For example, when the user is entering data in the Full Name field, I'd like 
>> "Full name" to be highlighted. As it is, just "name" is highlighted. 
>> 
>> Any help appreciated. 
>> 
>> Craig 
>> 
>> 
>> Craig L Russell 
>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation 
>> c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo 
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Re: PDF form text input font/size

[David Belina]

In Design mode if you left double click the field, about 2/3ds of the way down 
you can find font and colors/etc.  The UI people really did this backwards of 
what Word, etc users are used to doing (right click for variations of the box).

Not sure about the Field name, unless you use the option in the dialog box 
opened as above.


On January 22, 2019 at 7:08:58 PM, Craig Russell (apache@gmail.com) wrote:

Hi,  

I'm re-working a pdf form created via OpenOffice and saved as PDF. 
http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf  

I've attached the document here but don't know if this list accepts large-ish 
attachments.  

One trouble with this form is that I don't know how to control the input field 
text font/size. I'd like to specify that the fields be filled with Courier 12 
point.  

Many of the filled documents have text that is just to big for the fields. And 
some are colored purple!  

Is there a way to specify the font/size/color? I don't see an option for this 
when in design mode. If I highlight the form field, the options on the right 
menu are Properties: Width: 5.9" and Keep ratio. Styles and Formatting have no 
options.   

And as long as I'm working on this form, I'd like to be able to choose the text 
in the document that is highlighted when the user is in a form field. For 
example, when the user is entering data in the Full Name field, I'd like "Full 
name" to be highlighted. As it is, just "name" is highlighted.  

Any help appreciated.  

Craig  


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Re: PDF cpnverter

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use this  for your mac
https://download.cnet.com/Easy-PDF/3000-2351_4-75446250.html

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On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 11:20 PM, Julian Thomas  wrote:

>
>
> > On Jul 22, 2018, at 04:25, heltai andras 
> wrote:
> >
> > I downloaded it to my Mac, yet  cannot open it, The sstem says: no
> program for opening.
>
> You don't need any app.  In the Mac print dialog, click PDF in the lower
> left, then select Save as PDF.
>
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Re: PDF cpnverter

[Julian Thomas]

> On Jul 22, 2018, at 04:25, heltai andras  wrote:
> 
> I downloaded it to my Mac, yet  cannot open it, The sstem says: no program 
> for opening.

You don't need any app.  In the Mac print dialog, click PDF in the lower left, 
then select Save as PDF.


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Re: PDF converter

[Alan Pearce]

I have no idea as I don't use MAC. Works ok on my  windows systems. It normally 
installs as a printer and to convert a document to .pdf you have to choose 
"print" and then select pdf995.

 Original message 
From: heltai andras  
Date: 22/07/2018  09:25  (GMT+00:00) 
To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
Subject: Re: PDF cpnverter 


What can you say about „pdf995“?

I downloaded it to my Mac, yet  cannot open it, The sstem says: no program for 
opening.

Any idea, what to do?

Many thanks,

Andras




> On 2018. Jul 20., at 20:48, Alan Pearce  
> wrote:
> 
> I use  pdf995. It is free and works  a treat.
> 
>  Original message 
> From: William Hopkins  
> Date: 20/07/2018  12:58  (GMT+00:00) 
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> Subject: PDF cpnverter 
> 
> Hi, I wanted to download a PDF converter to go with Open Office but when I 
> searched and came up with one my computer warned me against downloading it, 
> Can you send me a link to an authentic download so I can be sure of it, 
> Thanks, Bill Hopkins
> 
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Re: PDF cpnverter

[heltai andras]

Was a quick answer, thanks, Rory!





> On 2018. Jul 22., at 10:30, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 10:25:48 +0200
> heltai andras  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> What can you say about „pdf995“?
>> 
>> I downloaded it to my Mac, yet  cannot open it, The sstem says: no program 
>> for opening.
>> 
>> Any idea, what to do?
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> 
>> Andras
>> 
> 
> 
> A quick check suggests that pdf995 runs only on Windows.
> 
> Rory
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2018. Jul 20., at 20:48, Alan Pearce  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use  pdf995. It is free and works  a treat.
>>> 
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: William Hopkins  
>>> Date: 20/07/2018  12:58  (GMT+00:00) 
>>> To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
>>> Subject: PDF cpnverter 
>>> 
>>> Hi, I wanted to download a PDF converter to go with Open Office but when I 
>>> searched and came up with one my computer warned me against downloading it, 
>>> Can you send me a link to an authentic download so I can be sure of it, 
>>> Thanks, Bill Hopkins
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 
>>> 10
>>> 
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Re: PDF cpnverter

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 10:25:48 +0200
heltai andras  wrote:

> 
> What can you say about „pdf995“?
> 
> I downloaded it to my Mac, yet  cannot open it, The sstem says: no program 
> for opening.
> 
> Any idea, what to do?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Andras
> 


A quick check suggests that pdf995 runs only on Windows.

Rory
> 
> 
> 
> > On 2018. Jul 20., at 20:48, Alan Pearce  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > I use  pdf995. It is free and works  a treat.
> > 
> >  Original message 
> > From: William Hopkins  
> > Date: 20/07/2018  12:58  (GMT+00:00) 
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> > Subject: PDF cpnverter 
> > 
> > Hi, I wanted to download a PDF converter to go with Open Office but when I 
> > searched and came up with one my computer warned me against downloading it, 
> > Can you send me a link to an authentic download so I can be sure of it, 
> > Thanks, Bill Hopkins
> > 
> > Sent from Mail for Windows 
> > 10
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Re: PDF cpnverter

[heltai andras]

What can you say about „pdf995“?

I downloaded it to my Mac, yet  cannot open it, The sstem says: no program for 
opening.

Any idea, what to do?

Many thanks,

Andras




> On 2018. Jul 20., at 20:48, Alan Pearce  
> wrote:
> 
> I use  pdf995. It is free and works  a treat.
> 
>  Original message 
> From: William Hopkins  
> Date: 20/07/2018  12:58  (GMT+00:00) 
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> Subject: PDF cpnverter 
> 
> Hi, I wanted to download a PDF converter to go with Open Office but when I 
> searched and came up with one my computer warned me against downloading it, 
> Can you send me a link to an authentic download so I can be sure of it, 
> Thanks, Bill Hopkins
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: PDF cpnverter

[Alan B]

William, all the pdf converters for Windows that I've found recently come
with bundled software that either I don't want or that flags the
antivirus/malware program. Even using their custom install features I still
see many adds or upgrade prompts after install. All undesirable.

OpenOffice apps all have a menu options File >> Export as PDF... (except
Math which has File >> Export...)

Have you tried that option to create pdfs?

It eliminates the need for a 3rd party pdf printer driver.

If you must have a pdf printer I suggest trying Foxit PDF Reader from
Foxitsoftware.com. As the name suggests it is a PDF reader. It also
installs a PDF printer and, imo, the install is much easier to recognize
and unselect bundled software.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 9:02 AM William Hopkins  wrote:

> Hi, I wanted to download a PDF converter to go with Open Office but when I
> searched and came up with one my computer warned me against downloading it,
> Can you send me a link to an authentic download so I can be sure of it,
> Thanks, Bill Hopkins
>
> Sent from Mail for
> Windows 10
>
>

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Re: PDF cpnverter

[Alan Pearce]

I use  pdf995. It is free and works  a treat.

 Original message 
From: William Hopkins  
Date: 20/07/2018  12:58  (GMT+00:00) 
To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
Subject: PDF cpnverter 

Hi, I wanted to download a PDF converter to go with Open Office but when I 
searched and came up with one my computer warned me against downloading it, Can 
you send me a link to an authentic download so I can be sure of it, Thanks, 
Bill Hopkins

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Re: PDF-Datei in Open Office Draw öffnen

[jan-christian wienandt]

Moin,


wir benutzen in unserer Firma schon sehr lange Open Office. Wir testen
gerade Open Office Draw für eine Anleitung unserer Produkte.
Wir können aber die PDF-Datei nicht in Open-Office Draw öffnen. Bitte 
um Hilfe.


da sollte die Extension PDF Import helfen.

Einen Download gibt es hier:

http://www.prooo-box.org/live/seiten/erweiterung.html

Im Abschnitt: "Extensionen für alle oder mehr als ein Modul vom 
Office-Paket.


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Re: PDF-Datei in Open Office Draw öffnen

[Dave]

Mit OpenOffice kann man PDFs erstellen aber nicht bearbeiten.

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Re: PDF forms controls

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Craig,

It has been 20 years since I generated Acrobat Forms. I did it with Postscript 
and Distiller (or what is now Ghostscript).

Two thoughts.

(1) Try dev@openoffice where the developer of the pdf feature might be hanging 
out - IIRC.

(2) Try dev@pdfbox where someone may know how to help you find this at the 
“cos” level. You might need the pdf reference manual.

Also there is no guarantee that all PDF viewers fully implement every attribute 
in the Forms / Ecmascript.

(Or contact me offline tomorrow and we’ll see if I can find out what’s up.)

Regards,
Dave

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> On Mar 15, 2018, at 8:26 PM, Craig Russell  wrote:
> 
> Hi Martin,
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Martin Groenescheij  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16/03/18 2:05 AM, Craig Russell wrote:
>>> Here is a link to a different document with the same issue.
>>> 
>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.pdf
>>> 
>>> When opening the document with Safari, Preview, Firefox, or Chrome, the 
>>> cursor is not positioned in any of the input fields. With Safari, when 
>>> clicking inside a field, there is a regular text word highlighted in blue. 
>>> With Preview, no highlighting. With Chrome, no highlighting. With Firefox, 
>>> no highlighting.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone give me the right terminology for the highlighted blue box 
>>> associated with the input fields? Is this just a Safari feature?
>> 
>> Both documents works fine on my Windows PC using Acrobat Reader and Foxit PDF
>> It even works fine on my iPad using Acrobat and Foxit Mobile.
> 
> Yes, the documents "work". I'm looking for the ability to 
> 
> 1. Have the cursor positioned in the first entry field when opening the 
> document
> 
> 2. Have control over the word or phrase in the document that is highlighted 
> when the cursor is in a specific field.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Craig
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
 On Mar 14, 2018, at 4:34 PM, Craig Russell  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm using Writer to create PDF forms and I'm having some trouble with the 
 text boxes.
 
 You can see here the document I'm working on [1] and [2]
 
 1. I open the pdf document in Apple Safari. When the cursor is in the name 
 form field, the word "emeritus" is highlighted in blue. I'd like for the 
 word "name" to be highlighted.
 
 When the user tabs out of the name field to the id field, the text 
 "emeritus" is still in blue. I'd like the text "id" to be highlighted in 
 blue instead.
 
 I have not been able to find anything in the form control box that allows 
 me to change this. How can I do this? (I could not find any answers in 
 online forums, perhaps because I'm using the wrong terminology)
 
 2. How can I automatically position the cursor in the name field when the 
 document is opened?
 
 3. The behavior is different if I open the document in Apple Preview. Is 
 it possible to have the same behavior regardless of which tool opens the 
 document?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Craig
 
 [1]
 
 
 [2]
 
 
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Re: PDF forms controls

[Martin Groenescheij]

On 16/03/18 2:26 PM, Craig Russell wrote:

Hi Martin,


On Mar 15, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Martin Groenescheij  
wrote:



On 16/03/18 2:05 AM, Craig Russell wrote:

Here is a link to a different document with the same issue.

http://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.pdf

When opening the document with Safari, Preview, Firefox, or Chrome, the cursor 
is not positioned in any of the input fields. With Safari, when clicking inside 
a field, there is a regular text word highlighted in blue. With Preview, no 
highlighting. With Chrome, no highlighting. With Firefox, no highlighting.

Can anyone give me the right terminology for the highlighted blue box 
associated with the input fields? Is this just a Safari feature?

Both documents works fine on my Windows PC using Acrobat Reader and Foxit PDF
It even works fine on my iPad using Acrobat and Foxit Mobile.

Yes, the documents "work". I'm looking for the ability to

1. Have the cursor positioned in the first entry field when opening the document


The first time you press the Tab key it moves to the first entry field, 
that said this doesn't mean the the first entry field
is the same as the first field in the document. Tab order is maintained 
with the Form properties select the triple dots
at the right side of the General tab where you can move up and down the 
fields.




2. Have control over the word or phrase in the document that is highlighted 
when the cursor is in a specific field.


If there is text in a box pressing the Tab key will highlight all text 
in that box. So you're not in control, but the PDF software.


Note that when you enter Help text in the Form properties it will 
display this text in the PDF field when you hover over your mouse.




Thanks,

Craig


Thanks,

Craig


On Mar 14, 2018, at 4:34 PM, Craig Russell  wrote:

Hi,

I'm using Writer to create PDF forms and I'm having some trouble with the text 
boxes.

You can see here the document I'm working on [1] and [2]

1. I open the pdf document in Apple Safari. When the cursor is in the name form field, the word 
"emeritus" is highlighted in blue. I'd like for the word "name" to be 
highlighted.

When the user tabs out of the name field to the id field, the text "emeritus" is still in 
blue. I'd like the text "id" to be highlighted in blue instead.

I have not been able to find anything in the form control box that allows me to 
change this. How can I do this? (I could not find any answers in online forums, 
perhaps because I'm using the wrong terminology)

2. How can I automatically position the cursor in the name field when the 
document is opened?

3. The behavior is different if I open the document in Apple Preview. Is it 
possible to have the same behavior regardless of which tool opens the document?

Thanks,

Craig

[1]


[2]


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Re: PDF forms controls

[Craig Russell]

Hi Martin,

> On Mar 15, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Martin Groenescheij  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 16/03/18 2:05 AM, Craig Russell wrote:
>> Here is a link to a different document with the same issue.
>> 
>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.pdf
>> 
>> When opening the document with Safari, Preview, Firefox, or Chrome, the 
>> cursor is not positioned in any of the input fields. With Safari, when 
>> clicking inside a field, there is a regular text word highlighted in blue. 
>> With Preview, no highlighting. With Chrome, no highlighting. With Firefox, 
>> no highlighting.
>> 
>> Can anyone give me the right terminology for the highlighted blue box 
>> associated with the input fields? Is this just a Safari feature?
> 
> Both documents works fine on my Windows PC using Acrobat Reader and Foxit PDF
> It even works fine on my iPad using Acrobat and Foxit Mobile.

Yes, the documents "work". I'm looking for the ability to 

1. Have the cursor positioned in the first entry field when opening the document

2. Have control over the word or phrase in the document that is highlighted 
when the cursor is in a specific field.

Thanks,

Craig

> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>>> On Mar 14, 2018, at 4:34 PM, Craig Russell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'm using Writer to create PDF forms and I'm having some trouble with the 
>>> text boxes.
>>> 
>>> You can see here the document I'm working on [1] and [2]
>>> 
>>> 1. I open the pdf document in Apple Safari. When the cursor is in the name 
>>> form field, the word "emeritus" is highlighted in blue. I'd like for the 
>>> word "name" to be highlighted.
>>> 
>>> When the user tabs out of the name field to the id field, the text 
>>> "emeritus" is still in blue. I'd like the text "id" to be highlighted in 
>>> blue instead.
>>> 
>>> I have not been able to find anything in the form control box that allows 
>>> me to change this. How can I do this? (I could not find any answers in 
>>> online forums, perhaps because I'm using the wrong terminology)
>>> 
>>> 2. How can I automatically position the cursor in the name field when the 
>>> document is opened?
>>> 
>>> 3. The behavior is different if I open the document in Apple Preview. Is it 
>>> possible to have the same behavior regardless of which tool opens the 
>>> document?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> [1]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [2]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig L Russell
>>> c...@apache.org
>>> 
>> Craig L Russell
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>> c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
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Re: PDF forms controls

[Craig Russell]

Here is a link to a different document with the same issue. 

http://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.pdf

When opening the document with Safari, Preview, Firefox, or Chrome, the cursor 
is not positioned in any of the input fields. With Safari, when clicking inside 
a field, there is a regular text word highlighted in blue. With Preview, no 
highlighting. With Chrome, no highlighting. With Firefox, no highlighting.

Can anyone give me the right terminology for the highlighted blue box 
associated with the input fields? Is this just a Safari feature?

Thanks,

Craig

> On Mar 14, 2018, at 4:34 PM, Craig Russell  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using Writer to create PDF forms and I'm having some trouble with the 
> text boxes.
> 
> You can see here the document I'm working on [1] and [2]
> 
> 1. I open the pdf document in Apple Safari. When the cursor is in the name 
> form field, the word "emeritus" is highlighted in blue. I'd like for the word 
> "name" to be highlighted.
> 
> When the user tabs out of the name field to the id field, the text "emeritus" 
> is still in blue. I'd like the text "id" to be highlighted in blue instead.
> 
> I have not been able to find anything in the form control box that allows me 
> to change this. How can I do this? (I could not find any answers in online 
> forums, perhaps because I'm using the wrong terminology)
> 
> 2. How can I automatically position the cursor in the name field when the 
> document is opened? 
> 
> 3. The behavior is different if I open the document in Apple Preview. Is it 
> possible to have the same behavior regardless of which tool opens the 
> document?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Craig
> 
> [1]
> 
> 
> [2]
> 
> 
> Craig L Russell
> c...@apache.org
> 

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Re: PDF-Export aus Calc heraus

[Mechtilde]

Hallo Wolfgang
hallo an alle anderen,

inzwischen bin ich auch dahinter gekommen. Du hast Recht. Es ghet nur
mit der Einstellung 

Das ist zwar ein bisschen unschön. Aber es funktioniert.

Das mit den Druckbereichen ahbe ich jetzt nicht ausprobiert, da dies
auch noch ein lebendes Dokument ist, wo noch weitere Tabellenblätter
dazukommen. Ob das auch alles mit einer Seitenvorlage zu formatieren
ist, werde ich noch testen.

Vielen Dank

Mechtilde

Am 14.12.2017 um 08:08 schrieb Wolfgang Jäth:
> Am 13.12.2017 um 14:28 schrieb Mechtilde:
>> Hallo zusammen,
>>
>> heute stehe ich vor dem Problem ein komplexeres PDF zu erstellen.
>> Vielleicht könnt Ihr mir ja weiterhelfen:
>>
>> Ich habe eine Calc Datei mit 25 gleichartigen Tabellenblättern. Diese
>> bestehen aus 14 Spalten und 30 Zeilen. Nach Zeile 15 soll ein
>> Seitenumbruch erfolgen. 
> 
> Das macht man normalerweise eigentlich immer über "Ansicht =>
> Seitenumbruch-Vorschau". Dort musst du "Rechtsklick => Seitenformat =>
>> Tabelle => Skalierungsmodus => Ausdruck verkleinern/vergrößern" [1]
> einstellen, dann kannst du die blauen Linien aka Ränder des
> Druckbereiches mit der Maus auf die gewünschte Größe ziehen. Wenn du
> mehr Seiten möchtest, kannst du das bewirken, indem du den Druckbereich
> so lange höher oder breiter machst bis eine Zwischenlinie auftaucht.
> diese verschiebst du dann an die gewünschte Position und verkleinerst
> den Bereich dann wieder. Wenn du weniger Seiten möchtest, ziehst du
> einfach eine Zwischenlinie auf eine andere oder auf den Rand.
> 
> Übrigens: Wenn Du mehrere voneinander /getrennte/ Druckbereiche haben
> möchtest, kannst du einen markierten Bereich über "Format =>
> Druckbereiche => Hinzufügen" definieren (wichtig "Hinzufügen", bei
> "Festlegen" werden alte Bereiche gelöscht").
> 
> Leider wirst du das vermutlich händisch auf jedem Tabellenblatt machen
> müssen, mir ist keine Möglichkeit bekannt, wie man Druckbereiche von
> einem Tabellenblatt auf ein anderes kopieren kann (aber vielleicht kennt
> ja jemand anderes eine).
> 
> [1] Frag mich nicht, warum die anderen Einstellungen wie z. B. Festlegen
> auf 2 Seiten o. ä. nicht richtig funktionieren, aber ich hab mit denen
> noch nie ein vernünftiges Ergebnis zustande bringen können.
> 
>> dieser ist als Zeilenumbruch definiert.
> 
> Dir ist aber schon klar, dass ein *Zeilenumbruch* keinen *Seitenumbruch*
> bewirken kann?
> 
>> es wäre schön, wenn ich dann noch definieren könnte, dass das erste
>> Tabellenblatt nicht exportiert wird.
> 
> Einfach den Druckbereich auf dieser Seite entsprechend setzen.
> 
> Wolfgang
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Re: PDF-Export aus Calc heraus

[Wolfgang Jäth]

Am 13.12.2017 um 14:28 schrieb Mechtilde:
> Hallo zusammen,
> 
> heute stehe ich vor dem Problem ein komplexeres PDF zu erstellen.
> Vielleicht könnt Ihr mir ja weiterhelfen:
> 
> Ich habe eine Calc Datei mit 25 gleichartigen Tabellenblättern. Diese
> bestehen aus 14 Spalten und 30 Zeilen. Nach Zeile 15 soll ein
> Seitenumbruch erfolgen. 

Das macht man normalerweise eigentlich immer über "Ansicht =>
Seitenumbruch-Vorschau". Dort musst du "Rechtsklick => Seitenformat =>
>Tabelle => Skalierungsmodus => Ausdruck verkleinern/vergrößern" [1]
einstellen, dann kannst du die blauen Linien aka Ränder des
Druckbereiches mit der Maus auf die gewünschte Größe ziehen. Wenn du
mehr Seiten möchtest, kannst du das bewirken, indem du den Druckbereich
so lange höher oder breiter machst bis eine Zwischenlinie auftaucht.
diese verschiebst du dann an die gewünschte Position und verkleinerst
den Bereich dann wieder. Wenn du weniger Seiten möchtest, ziehst du
einfach eine Zwischenlinie auf eine andere oder auf den Rand.

Übrigens: Wenn Du mehrere voneinander /getrennte/ Druckbereiche haben
möchtest, kannst du einen markierten Bereich über "Format =>
Druckbereiche => Hinzufügen" definieren (wichtig "Hinzufügen", bei
"Festlegen" werden alte Bereiche gelöscht").

Leider wirst du das vermutlich händisch auf jedem Tabellenblatt machen
müssen, mir ist keine Möglichkeit bekannt, wie man Druckbereiche von
einem Tabellenblatt auf ein anderes kopieren kann (aber vielleicht kennt
ja jemand anderes eine).

[1] Frag mich nicht, warum die anderen Einstellungen wie z. B. Festlegen
auf 2 Seiten o. ä. nicht richtig funktionieren, aber ich hab mit denen
noch nie ein vernünftiges Ergebnis zustande bringen können.

> dieser ist als Zeilenumbruch definiert.

Dir ist aber schon klar, dass ein *Zeilenumbruch* keinen *Seitenumbruch*
bewirken kann?

> es wäre schön, wenn ich dann noch definieren könnte, dass das erste
> Tabellenblatt nicht exportiert wird.

Einfach den Druckbereich auf dieser Seite entsprechend setzen.

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Re: PDF-Export aus Calc heraus

[Apo]

Hallo Mechtilde,

ich bin jetzt nicht der große Calc-Held, aber: Läßt sich der 
Druckbereich statt eines Umbruchs vielleicht über die begrenzenden 
Zellen (etwa $a$1:$o$14 und $a$15:$o$30) definieren ?

Hab' allerdings auf die Schnelle nichts gefunden.
Wäre es sehr viel Arbeit, die Datenblöcke auf den Blättern statt 
untereinander (30 Zeilen) nebeneinander (15 Zeilen) anzuordnen? Also A 
bis O  und anschließend P bis AD ?

Da wäre das Drucken sicher wie gewünscht möglich.

Viel Erfolg!

Konrad


Am 13.12.2017 um 17:39 schrieb Alois Klotz:

Hallo,
ich hab das mal probiert:
- erste Seite hat keinen Druckbereich definiert
- auf den folgenden Tabellenblättern Umbrüche eingefügt
- als PDF exportiert

hier die Datei: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vow1pd7exus90fd/Umbruch_etc.ods?dl=0
und das Ergebnis: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jgf7kybjae01kyq/Umbruch_etc.pdf?dl=0


gemacht mit LO 5.4.4.1 (x64)

MfG Alois

Re: PDF-Export aus Calc heraus

[Alois Klotz]

Hallo,
ich hab das mal probiert:
- erste Seite hat keinen Druckbereich definiert
- auf den folgenden Tabellenblättern Umbrüche eingefügt
- als PDF exportiert

hier die Datei: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vow1pd7exus90fd/Umbruch_etc.ods?dl=0
und das Ergebnis: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jgf7kybjae01kyq/Umbruch_etc.pdf?dl=0


gemacht mit LO 5.4.4.1 (x64)

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Mechtilde schrieb am 13.12.2017 um 16:53:

Hallo Detlef,

das Problem ist, dass der Seitenumbruch nicht an der definierten Stelle
erfolgt, obwohl da bei allen Tabellenblättern ein Seitenumbruch
eingefügt ist.

Viele Grüße


Am 13.12.2017 um 15:47 schrieb detlef.nan...@gmail.com:

Hallo Mechtilde,

ich habe das mal klein nachgebaut, mit 3 Tabellen wie von Dir beschrieben und 
dann die erste Tabelle nicht drucken.
Habe die zu druckenden Tabellenblätter an den Reitern markiert, und dann eben 
nur die markierten Tabellen exportiert. - Hat geklappt, also hier dann im Test 
4 statt 6 Seiten im PDF.




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Re: PDF-Export aus Calc heraus

[Detlef Nannen]

Hallo Mechtilde,

oh, das habe ich nicht beachtet. Kann es gerade nicht testen, aber kann AOO 
mehrere Druckbereiche? Das hatte mir kürzlich bei einer ähnlichen Sache in 
Excel geholfen.


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Am 13. Dezember 2017 4:53:23 nachm. schrieb Mechtilde :


Hallo Detlef,

das Problem ist, dass der Seitenumbruch nicht an der definierten Stelle
erfolgt, obwohl da bei allen Tabellenblättern ein Seitenumbruch
eingefügt ist.

Viele Grüße


Am 13.12.2017 um 15:47 schrieb detlef.nan...@gmail.com:

Hallo Mechtilde,

ich habe das mal klein nachgebaut, mit 3 Tabellen wie von Dir beschrieben 
und dann die erste Tabelle nicht drucken.
Habe die zu druckenden Tabellenblätter an den Reitern markiert, und dann 
eben nur die markierten Tabellen exportiert. - Hat geklappt, also hier dann 
im Test 4 statt 6 Seiten im PDF.




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Re: PDF-Export aus Calc heraus

[Mechtilde]

Hallo Detlef,

das Problem ist, dass der Seitenumbruch nicht an der definierten Stelle
erfolgt, obwohl da bei allen Tabellenblättern ein Seitenumbruch
eingefügt ist.

Viele Grüße


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> Hallo Mechtilde,
> 
> ich habe das mal klein nachgebaut, mit 3 Tabellen wie von Dir beschrieben und 
> dann die erste Tabelle nicht drucken.
> Habe die zu druckenden Tabellenblätter an den Reitern markiert, und dann eben 
> nur die markierten Tabellen exportiert. - Hat geklappt, also hier dann im 
> Test 4 statt 6 Seiten im PDF.
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Re: PDF-Export funktioniert nicht

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> From: M.Janszen [mailto:janszen.lauenb...@t-online.de] 

> Hallo, Dokument als PDF-Export funktioniert nicht. Ach nicht 
> mit gerade installierter neuester Version von OpenOffice. Es 
> wird zwar eine Dokument erzeugt, aber nicht als PDF. Ist irgendwas.

Natürlich ist es ein PDF, denn ein PDF IST ein PDF auch ohne Endung *.pdf.

Einzig ist ein PDF ohne pdf-Endung natürlich etwas unpraktisch und deswegen 
sollte
man im Dateidialog bei PDF-Export die Option "Automatische 
Dateinamenserweiterung"
aktivieren.


"Ach nicht  mit gerade installierter neuester Version von OpenOffice"?

natürlich nicht, denn eine Neuinstallation überschreibt nicht die vorhandenen
Einstellungen der alten Version, welche im OO-Benutzerverzeichnis liegen.


Gruß
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Re: PDF-Export funktioniert nicht

[Martin Jenniges]

Hallo Martin,

deine Angaben sind sehr vage:

vom welchem Modul -Writer, Calc,...- willst du ein PDF erzeugen ?
wie gehst du vor ?
was kriegst als Ergebnis ?

erst nach Antwort dieser Fragen, kann ich vielleicht helfen

mit freundlichem Gruss

Martin Jenniges


Am 17.07.2017 um 09:49 schrieb M.Janszen:

Martin H.H. Janßen - Damaschkestr. 2a - 21481 Lauenburg - Tel.: 04153 599694


Hallo, Dokument als PDF-Export funktioniert nicht. Ach nicht mit gerade 
installierter neuester Version von OpenOffice. Es wird zwar eine Dokument 
erzeugt, aber nicht als PDF. Ist irgendwas.

MfG
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Re: pdf and word document doesnt look like it should

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 21:11:09 +1100
Martin Groenescheij  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 31/01/17 4:22 AM, Christian Dahlberg wrote:
> > Greetings.
> >
> >
> > As seen on the title I have a problem when I open a pdf or word program in 
> > open office. I have your latest product and the pdf extension.
> 
> A PDF file looks the best in a PDF viewer, a word document looks the 
> best in the program which created the
> original document. Opening it in any other program requires a conversion 
> which is never 100%
> >
> >
> > What shall I do. Please help me, I want the document to look exactly like 
> > the original´.
> 
> See 
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7=4053=30#p338562
> and https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47=29251#p369286
> 
> >
> >
> > Best regards, Christian Dahlberg

In addition to what Martin has said about using a dedicated PDF viewer, the pdf 
file should be made using the PDF/A-1a option, so that the exact fonts are 
embedded in the pdf file.  Otherwise the pdf viewer, if it cannot find the 
exact fonts needed, will substitute closest fit fonts, which are not the fonts 
used in the original.


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Re: pdf and word document doesnt look like it should

[Martin Groenescheij]

On 31/01/17 4:22 AM, Christian Dahlberg wrote:

Greetings.


As seen on the title I have a problem when I open a pdf or word program in open 
office. I have your latest product and the pdf extension.


A PDF file looks the best in a PDF viewer, a word document looks the 
best in the program which created the
original document. Opening it in any other program requires a conversion 
which is never 100%



What shall I do. Please help me, I want the document to look exactly like the 
original´.


See 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7=4053=30#p338562

and https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47=29251#p369286




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Re: PDF

[John Hart]

File > Export as PDF, Works better than

File > Print, PDFCreator, which is a Virtual Print Driver
extension for the OS.

Export produces pages that are easy to access, PDFCreator doesn't.

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Re: PDF

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> On Oct 16, 2016, at 18:01, stre...@citcom.net wrote:
> 
> I would like to know if I can use Open Office to create PDFs.  Please advise,

Definitely.  File - Export as PDF.  Works very well.

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Re: PDF

[Günter Feierabend]

Hallo Erika,

> Am 03.10.2016 um 20:31 schrieb Eri Deck :
> 
> Ich kann neuerdings  PDF Dateien mit Adobe reader zwar lesen , aber nicht 
> mehr speichern und drucken.
> 
> Woran kann das liegen?

Wir können darauf nicht antworten, weil wir uns hier nur mit Apache OpenOffice 
beschäftigen.

Bitte richte Deine Frage an Adobe.

Gruß
Günter


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Re: PDF-Groesse

[Apo]

Hallo Kai,

wir sind keine Damen und Herren, sondern Nutzer wie du auch und duzen uns.

Als Ex - Diplominformatiker solltest du zum einen wissen, dass Infos 
über dein Betriebssystem hilfreich sein könnten; zum anderen sollte dir 
auch klar sein:


Die Größe des erzeugten PDFs hängt wesentlich von den Einstellungen der 
Auflösung ab (150 / 300 / 600 oder sogar 1200).
Ganz einfach: Je höher die Auflösung desto größer wird die PDF-Datei. 
Bei mir wird beispielsweise aus einer 102 MB odt-Datei mit
zahlreichen Farbfotos bei 75 dpi ein 9 MB großés PDF, bei 150 dpi eine 
27 MB große PDF-Datei; bei 300 dpi werden es 60 MB, bei 600 dpi sind es 
87 MB.

Alles ganz normal, wie es sein sollte.

Beim direkten Export kannst du die Einstellungen über exportieren > 
Optionen > allgemein nach deinen Bedürfnissen einstellen.
Alternativ kannst du das Drucken - Menue verwenden und zB mit Adobe-PDF 
oder einem vergleichbaren Programm drucken.
Wenn du das tolle Cute-PDF auf dem Rechner hast, warum verwendest du es 
dann nicht?


Und übrigens gibt es ein Zauberwort mit fünf Buchstaben!

Konrad


Am 19.08.2016 um 16:06 schrieb Kai Lewerenz:


Guten Tag sehr grrhrte Damen und Herren von Openoffice,


Dank ihrer Guten Updatefunktion Nutze ich ihr Heute Aktuelles:


'

'!

Heute Testete ich, da ich ein Bilddokument Erstellte ihree 
PDF-Funktion im Vergleich zu meinem Standarddrucker Cutepdf, da ich, 
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Und bitte Optimieren sie ihr PDF - Format, das nur 5 KB bei 19.895 
Byte Dokumentengröße Einspart und Vermutlich Formatirungn Mitspeichert!


Ich brauche Heute eine Kostenfreie und Perfekte Lösung und ihr 
OLOpenoffice ist mit CutePDF Perfekt!



Ich Empfehle ihnen ein PDF-Sommrgrillen, an dem Alles mit CutePDF 
Fixiert wird!



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Re: PDF editing

[Johnny Rosenberg]

2015-12-01 0:28 GMT+01:00 Julian Thomas :

> Some PDF's seem to have fields that can be filled in by the user - this is
> useful for filling in various forms.
>

Yes, it is. I do that all the time with Evince. Works great if the PDF is
correctly made.


>
> The all purpose Preview in OS X will do this as well as act as a mean and
> lean replacement for Acrobat Reader for viewing PDF's.
>

You are probably right there too. So it works just like Evince then, I
suppose.

So why are you writing? You forgot to ask a question… :)


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Re: PDF

[Dave Barton]

 Original Message  
From: Sylvia Sánchez
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:44:35 -0200

> Hi!
> Can you write your problem in English?
> Thanks!

Adam is not subscribed to this list and will not have seen your request.
A rough English translation of his message in Slovak is:

"You could add to the OpenOffice PDF document reader which could be
edit, create and view PDF documents."

In reply:
The PDF file format was not designed or intended to be an "editable"
document format. Think of it as the electronic equivalent of a document
printed on paper. While it is possible to edit a PDF file using software
like "Adobe Acrobat", the document cannot be easily edited in the
free-flowing layout found in word processor (eg. Writer) documents.

The "PDF Import for Apache OpenOffice" extension can be downloaded from:
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/17351
This extension allows the "Draw" program to open, edit and save PDF
files. While this extension can work reasonably well for PDF files with
a simple structure/layout, the results might not be acceptable for more
complex documents.

A better alternative might be to use a program or on-line service to
convert the PDF to an Microsoft file format. An internet search will
return links to a number of free and commercial PDF to Microsoft format
converter programs. I can recommend Zamzar http://www.zamzar.com/ an
on-line conversion service which offers direct PDF -> ODF conversion.

The Slovak website: http://www.openoffice.org/sk/

Google preložiť je váš priateľ. https://translate.google.sk/#en/sk/

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Re: PDF

[Dave Barton]

 Original Message  
From: Larry Evans
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 09:02:51 -0600

> 
> 
> On 11/30/2015 03:29 AM, Dave Barton wrote:
>>  Original Message  
>> From: Sylvia Sánchez
>> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:44:35 -0200
>>
>>> Hi!
>>> Can you write your problem in English?
>>> Thanks!
>> Adam is not subscribed to this list and will not have seen your request.
>> A rough English translation of his message in Slovak is:
>>
>> "You could add to the OpenOffice PDF document reader which could be
>> edit, create and view PDF documents."
>>
>> In reply:
> [snip]
>> A better alternative might be to use a program or on-line service to
>> convert the PDF to an Microsoft file format. An internet search will
>> return links to a number of free and commercial PDF to Microsoft format
>> converter programs. I can recommend Zamzar http://www.zamzar.com/ an
>> on-line conversion service which offers direct PDF -> ODF conversion.
>>
> I just tried zamzar on an unfilled f1040.pdf from the irs
> and specified conversion to .odt.  The result was viewed
> with libreoffice (version 4.2.8.2).  Unfortunately, the conversion
> did not go well because there were many out-of-place lines
> and characters and even several 'Manual Column Break'
> values in blue ink, which, of course, appeared no where
> when the original .pdf was viewed with my Document Viewer
> application (https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evince).
> 
> In short, zamzar is no silver bullet :(
> 
> -regards,
> Larry

No, I never claimed Zamzar was the perfect "Silver Bullet" solution to
Adam's request/suggestion. I only mentioned it, because I have used it
in the past to convert _SIMPLE_ PDF files to ODF and the results might
not have been 100% perfect, but acceptable for my requirements.

You certainly picked the worst possible sample to test. I just ran that
horrendously complex form through the PDF to Word conversion of "Adobe
Acrobat Pro 11.0.12" and the output was almost unreadable in Word 2013
and Word 2016. The same PDF to Word conversion through Zamzar was
marginally better, but still unusable.

I could have also mentioned the copy and paste method, but that would
not work for image based PDF files.

In short, there is no silver bullet for PDF to word processor format
conversion.

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Dave




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RE: PDF

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

An alternative provision that may be confusing this situation is the way that 
LibreOffice will save a PDF as "editable" in LibreOffice.  

What happens is the original .odt is embedded in the PDF as an attachment, so 
the .odt is being carried within the "hybrid" PDF.  LibreOffice will open a 
hybrid PDF and present the .odt for editing.  

Apache OpenOffice does not recognize the hybrid PDF.

 - Dennis

Via Google Translate (Cez Google Prekladač):

Alternatívne ustanovenia, ktoré môže byť mätúce túto situáciu je tak, že 
LibreOffice ušetrí PDF ako "upravovať" v LibreOffice.

Čo sa stane, je pôvodná .odt je zakotvený v PDF ako prílohu, takže .odt sa 
vykonáva v rámci "hybridný" vo formáte PDF. LibreOffice otvorí hybridný PDF a 
prezentovať .odt pre úpravy.

Apache OpenOffice nerozpoznáva hybridný PDF.

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> Subject: Re: PDF
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> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:44:35 -0200
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> > Thanks!
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> 
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Re: PDF

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Hi!
Can you write your problem in English?


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Re: PDF to Write (Word type file)

[JonyGreen]

I find a free online pdf to word converter to  convert pdf to editable word
online   . all the content will
retain the original formatting in the converted word doc.




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Re: PDF-Datei umwandeln

[Dave]

Es gibt kostenlose online-umwandler, z.b. http://online-umwandeln.de/



2015-06-08 10:49 GMT+02:00 Renate Lutz lutz.ren...@web.de:

 Guten Tag,

 könnten Sie mir bitte mitteilen, wie man ganz einfach eine PDF-Datei in
 eine odt-Datei umwandelt?

 Vielen Dank und freundliche Grüße

 Renate Lutz






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Re: PDF-Datei umwandeln

[Günter Feierabend]

Hallo Renate,

Am 08.06.2015 um 10:49 schrieb Renate Lutz lutz.ren...@web.de:

 Guten Tag,
 
 könnten Sie mir bitte mitteilen, wie man ganz einfach eine PDF-Datei in eine 
 odt-Datei umwandelt?

Ganz einfach:
1. Öffne die PDF mit einem geeigneten Programm.
2. Markiere den kompletten Inhalt per Tastaturbefehl (MacOS: cmd+A; Windows: 
ctrl+A)
3. Kopiere den Inhalt in die Zwischenablage per Tastaturbefehl (MacOS: cmd+C; 
Windows: ctrl+C)
4. Öffne OpenOffice und erstelle eine neue Textdatei
5. Füge den Inhalt der Zwischenablage in diese Datei per Tastaturbefehl (MacOS: 
cmd+V; Windows: ctrl+V)

Alternative: Du nimmst Daves Tipp wahr.

Gruß
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Re: PDF Export Absturz in Version 4.1.1

[Oliver Brinzing]

Hallo Robin,

hast Du die Option [x] PDF/A-1a aktiviert?

Ich habe ein paar Dokumente, bei denen das auch zum Absturz führt.
Nach dem Deaktivieren konnte ich die Dokumente in PDF umwandeln.

Gruß
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Re: PDF Export Absturz in Version 4.1.1

[Apo]

Hi Robin,

das Problem hatte ich mit 4.1.1 auch.  Meine Lösungen (gleiches 
Betriebssystem):

Entweder 4.1.1 deinstallieren und wieder die Vorgängerversion verwenden
oder auf LibreOffice umsteigen - das konvertiert (gefühlt) auch schneller.

Gruß
Konrad


Am 03.03.2015 um 22:15 schrieb Robin Robin:

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren

Ich möchte eine Präsentation als PDF-Datei Exportieren, jedoch stürzt das
Programm jedes mal nach Einleitung des Exportprozess und einer kurzen
Ladezeit ab. Der Ladebalken füllt sich jedes mal auf die gleiche Stelle (ca
1/5)

Auch eine Neuinstallation  umbenennung des Benutzerverzeichnisses löste
dieses Problem nicht.

Betriebssystem: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

Open Office Version: 4.1.1

MfG

Robin Warning

Re: PDF Export Absturz in Version 4.1.1

[Dave]

andere lösung, die auch für andere zwecke sehr nützlich ist: das kostenlose
programm pdf24 verwenden. dann von openoffice auf den 'virtuellen' drucker
pdf24 drucken.

2015-03-04 9:17 GMT+01:00 Apo apoth...@stadtapotheke-badaibling.de:

 Hi Robin,

 das Problem hatte ich mit 4.1.1 auch.  Meine Lösungen (gleiches
 Betriebssystem):
 Entweder 4.1.1 deinstallieren und wieder die Vorgängerversion verwenden
 oder auf LibreOffice umsteigen - das konvertiert (gefühlt) auch schneller.

 Gruß
 Konrad


 Am 03.03.2015 um 22:15 schrieb Robin Robin:

  Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren

 Ich möchte eine Präsentation als PDF-Datei Exportieren, jedoch stürzt das
 Programm jedes mal nach Einleitung des Exportprozess und einer kurzen
 Ladezeit ab. Der Ladebalken füllt sich jedes mal auf die gleiche Stelle
 (ca
 1/5)

 Auch eine Neuinstallation  umbenennung des Benutzerverzeichnisses löste
 dieses Problem nicht.

 Betriebssystem: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

 Open Office Version: 4.1.1

 MfG

 Robin Warning

Re: PDF Export Absturz in Version 4.1.1

[A Dreier]

Ich verwende bereits seit vielen Jahren den kostenlosen PDF Creator zum 
Erstellen von PDF-Dokumenten über die Druckfunktion. Klappt prima.


Gruß

Andreas

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An: users-de@openoffice.apache.org (users-de@openoffice.apache.org)


andere lösung, die auch für andere zwecke sehr nützlich ist: das kostenlose
programm pdf24 verwenden. dann von openoffice auf den 'virtuellen' drucker
pdf24 drucken.

2015-03-04 9:17 GMT+01:00 Apo apoth...@stadtapotheke-badaibling.de:


Hi Robin,

das Problem hatte ich mit 4.1.1 auch.  Meine Lösungen (gleiches
Betriebssystem):
Entweder 4.1.1 deinstallieren und wieder die Vorgängerversion verwenden
oder auf LibreOffice umsteigen - das konvertiert (gefühlt) auch schneller.

Gruß
Konrad


Am 03.03.2015 um 22:15 schrieb Robin Robin:

  Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren

Ich möchte eine Präsentation als PDF-Datei Exportieren, jedoch stürzt das
Programm jedes mal nach Einleitung des Exportprozess und einer kurzen
Ladezeit ab. Der Ladebalken füllt sich jedes mal auf die gleiche Stelle
(ca
1/5)

Auch eine Neuinstallation  umbenennung des Benutzerverzeichnisses löste
dieses Problem nicht.

Betriebssystem: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

Open Office Version: 4.1.1

MfG

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Re: PDF-Export

[Günter Feierabend]

Hallo Holger,

Am 01.12.2014 um 11:22 schrieb Holger Schulz q...@gmx.net:

 Ich möchte aus eine Calc-Mappe nur eine Tabelle als PDF-Datei exportieren. 
 Ich finde aber keine entsprechende Einstellung.

Eine „Einstellung“ gibt es dazu nicht.
Unter dem Menü-Punkt „Datei“ findest Du „Exportieren als PDF …“.
Ich bevorzuge die Alternative „Drucken …“ und dort den Unterpunkt „PDF“.

Gruß
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Re: PDF-Export

[Günter Feierabend]

Hallo Holger,

Am 01.12.2014 um 12:02 schrieb Holger Schulz q...@gmx.net:

 
 Am 2014-12-01 um 11:56 schrieb Günter Feierabend feierab...@telia.com:
 
 Hallo Holger,
 
 Am 01.12.2014 um 11:22 schrieb Holger Schulz q...@gmx.net:
 
 Ich möchte aus eine Calc-Mappe nur eine Tabelle als PDF-Datei exportieren. 
 Ich finde aber keine entsprechende Einstellung.
 
 Eine „Einstellung“ gibt es dazu nicht.
 Unter dem Menü-Punkt „Datei“ findest Du „Exportieren als PDF …“.
 
 Jope. Dann wird aber die gesamte Mappe exportiert. Ich suche nach einer 
 _Einstellung_, die es mir erlaubt, _eine_ Tabelle zum Export auszuwählen. Ich 
 bitte um Entschuldigung, falls ich das nicht klar genug formuliert haben 
 sollte.

Dann markiere vorher den Bereich, den Du „drucken willst.
Und wirf vor allem mal einen Blick in die mitgelieferte Hilfe, wo Du 
entsprechende Suchbegriffe eingeben kannst.

Gruß
Günter


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Re: PDF-Export

[A Dreier]

Hallo Holger,

wähle das Menü Datei - Exportieren als PDF und im dortigen Dialog im 
Bereich Bereich die Option Auswahl (statt der vorausgewählten Option 
Alle), so wird die aktuelle Tabelle und sonst gar nichts ausgedruckt. 
Zumindest bei mir in OO 4.01.


Gruß

Andreas


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An: users-de@openoffice.apache.org (users-de@openoffice.apache.org)


Am 2014-12-01 um 11:56 schrieb Günter Feierabend feierab...@telia.com:


Hallo Holger,

Am 01.12.2014 um 11:22 schrieb Holger Schulz q...@gmx.net:


Ich möchte aus eine Calc-Mappe nur eine Tabelle als PDF-Datei exportieren. Ich 
finde aber keine entsprechende Einstellung.

Eine „Einstellung“ gibt es dazu nicht.
Unter dem Menü-Punkt „Datei“ findest Du „Exportieren als PDF …“.

Jope. Dann wird aber die gesamte Mappe exportiert. Ich suche nach einer 
_Einstellung_, die es mir erlaubt, _eine_ Tabelle zum Export auszuwählen. Ich 
bitte um Entschuldigung, falls ich das nicht klar genug formuliert haben sollte.

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Re: PDF export defaults background page color

[許哲崇]

Black background is unusual for a Writer file.
Maybe Impress can do better.


2014-06-03 9:58 GMT+08:00 Tony Gallas tony.gal...@spin.net.au:

 I forgot to put on the end, that I checked the saved .pdf file and it came
 out exactly the same as the .odt page, colours and everything, including a
 web link. Didn't know about your suggested method. Hope this is a bit
 clearer.

 Tony


 On 3/06/2014 2:28 AM, johnny smith wrote:

 On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 06:53:54 -, Tony Gallas tony.gal...@spin.net.au
 wrote:

  I created a simple text page with a black background and white text, red
 text, green text, then exported as a .pdf file. The colours were not
 changed.


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 background' should be checked and 'print text in black' unchecked. these
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Re: PDF export defaults background page color

[Tony Gallas]

I created a simple text page with a black background and white text, red 
text, green text, then exported as a .pdf file. The colours were not 
changed. OO 4.1.0, Win 8.1. Does this help?


Tony

On 31/05/2014 6:07 PM, johnny smith wrote:
On Sat, 31 May 2014 00:04:27 -, Chris Szott chrissz...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Trying to export an .ODT file to .PDF.
I have the background colour for all pages set to black. When I 
export to PDF it reverts everything to white, and even inverts some 
of my text (white text is now black.)


Also, some of the link colours have reverted back to their defaults.


i cannot confirm this behaviour. could you please upload to some file 
hosting service a sample odt file demonstrating the issue? (if you 
post it on the list directly, there is a chance that it be filtered by 
the antispam engine.)


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Re: PDF export defaults background page color

[johnny smith]

On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 06:53:54 -, Tony Gallas tony.gal...@spin.net.au wrote:


I created a simple text page with a black background and white text, red
text, green text, then exported as a .pdf file. The colours were not
changed.


please check 'tools - options - openoffice writer - print'. 'page background' 
should be checked and 'print text in black' unchecked. these options apply to 
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Re: PDF export defaults background page color

[Andrea Pescetti]

Forwarding to Chris. Chris, consider subscribing: 
http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html

Regards,
  Andrea.

Steve Ahlers wrote:

Are you exporting to PDF or printing to PDF?

Steve
Sent from my iPad

On May 30, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Chris Szott chrissz...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello,

Trying to export an .ODT file to .PDF.
I have the background colour for all pages set to black. When I export to PDF 
it reverts everything to white, and even inverts some of my text (white text is 
now black.)

Also, some of the link colours have reverted back to their defaults.

Any ideas of how I can solve this?

Thanks,

Chris
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Re: PDF export defaults background page color

[johnny smith]

On Sat, 31 May 2014 00:04:27 -, Chris Szott chrissz...@gmail.com wrote:


Trying to export an .ODT file to .PDF.
I have the background colour for all pages set to black. When I export to PDF 
it reverts everything to white, and even inverts some of my text (white text is 
now black.)

Also, some of the link colours have reverted back to their defaults.


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RE: PDF-to-ODT conversion

[mt]

Back to the original topic (but thanks for the useful info about 
download sites!) - just thought I'd mention that dragging or 
copying-and-pasting text from any (text) PDF and OpenOffice 
works pretty well on a Mac.


Not sure if this would apply to all platforms, but it's by far 
the easiest way I have found on my Mac. I might have to reapply 
some formatting for complex files, but all the text gets copied 
over, and most of the styles as well.


Cheers,

marina
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MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, OS X 10.6.8
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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

[Rima Schulkind]

Thankyouthyankyouthankyou. It worked like a dream. I'm so used to my old Mac 
word processing apps not allowing copy-and-paste of pdf's that I never even 
tried with my new one. 


On Dec 2, 2013, at 5:07 PM, mt wrote:

 Back to the original topic (but thanks for the useful info about download 
 sites!) - just thought I'd mention that dragging or copying-and-pasting 
 text from any (text) PDF and OpenOffice works pretty well on a Mac.
 
 Not sure if this would apply to all platforms, but it's by far the easiest 
 way I have found on my Mac. I might have to reapply some formatting for 
 complex files, but all the text gets copied over, and most of the styles as 
 well.
 
 Cheers,
 
 marina
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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

[Allen Schaaf, CISSP]

Alas, CNET is a nest of vipers. Sorry, I should have mentioned 
the best source: http://www.freeocr.net/.


NEVER TRUST CNET!

Best,

Allen

On 11/30/2013 8:25 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:09:09 -0500
Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:


BEWARE !!!
The download of FreeOCR from CNET brought along a huge mess of excess
baggage.  After 3 attempts at System Restore, running Malware Bytes, Spybot,
RegCure and Stinger got rid of (what I hope is all of) 243 infections.
There may be a clean version out there but this exercise scared me off.

I'll try Dave's Google Drive method.  Thanks to all, but I thought this
warning was in order.  Hope it saves others a lot of grief.

Cheers,
Maurice Howe
I'm retired. Go around me.


The comments on the cnet freeocr page indicate such infestation.

You could try Calibre, downloading only from
http://calibre-ebook.com/
which will convert a PDF into text. Anything I have ever downloaded from that 
calibre site has been clean.

As a general rule I suggest only to download from an application's own site.



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RE: PDF-to-ODT conversion

[Think]

I downloaded from freeocr.net and also got other software with the OCR
program. It was an accept/decline statement and the first one got past me,
but I saw the others and declined. So when my daughter went to use my
browser to find a recipe for me she said there's a weird browser on your
computer. This happened with dealslider a week ago when I downloaded a free
font browser.

Unfortunately, this one issue is one of the biggest issues for people
utilizing free and open source software -- it is not verified to not have
malware, etc. attached to it.

I am in the process of specifying open source software for a non profit
company I am building, and am swimming the waters myself to see what
problems are inherent in open source. It seems that this one is huge and
relatively insurmountable unless someone wants to start a foundation to cull
the software for cleanliness.

Also, many people such as myself trust CNET. Obviously that trust is
misplaced. So if not CNET, then whom?

Brenda Hart Neihouse

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From: Allen Schaaf, CISSP [mailto:netsecur...@sound-by-design.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:09 AM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

Alas, CNET is a nest of vipers. Sorry, I should have mentioned 
the best source: http://www.freeocr.net/.

NEVER TRUST CNET!

Best,

Allen

On 11/30/2013 8:25 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
 On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:09:09 -0500
 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 BEWARE !!!
 The download of FreeOCR from CNET brought along a huge mess of excess
 baggage.  After 3 attempts at System Restore, running Malware Bytes,
Spybot,
 RegCure and Stinger got rid of (what I hope is all of) 243 infections.
 There may be a clean version out there but this exercise scared me off.

 I'll try Dave's Google Drive method.  Thanks to all, but I thought this
 warning was in order.  Hope it saves others a lot of grief.

 Cheers,
 Maurice Howe
 I'm retired. Go around me.

 The comments on the cnet freeocr page indicate such infestation.

 You could try Calibre, downloading only from
 http://calibre-ebook.com/
 which will convert a PDF into text. Anything I have ever downloaded from
that calibre site has been clean.

 As a general rule I suggest only to download from an application's own
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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Sun, 1 Dec 2013 11:57:34 -0500
Think thinkta...@gmail.com wrote:

 I downloaded from freeocr.net and also got other software with the OCR
 program. It was an accept/decline statement and the first one got past me,
 but I saw the others and declined. So when my daughter went to use my
 browser to find a recipe for me she said there's a weird browser on your
 computer. This happened with dealslider a week ago when I downloaded a free
 font browser.
 
 Unfortunately, this one issue is one of the biggest issues for people
 utilizing free and open source software -- it is not verified to not have
 malware, etc. attached to it.
 
 I am in the process of specifying open source software for a non profit
 company I am building, and am swimming the waters myself to see what
 problems are inherent in open source. It seems that this one is huge and
 relatively insurmountable unless someone wants to start a foundation to cull
 the software for cleanliness.
 
 Also, many people such as myself trust CNET. Obviously that trust is
 misplaced. So if not CNET, then whom?

For openoffice we only recommend 
www.openoffice.org/download

For all other applications I always recommend using the main project site; if I 
have to recommend a particular site, it is always one I have used myself and 
know to be clean.

 Brenda Hart Neihouse
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Allen Schaaf, CISSP [mailto:netsecur...@sound-by-design.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:09 AM
 To: users@openoffice.apache.org
 Subject: Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion
 
 Alas, CNET is a nest of vipers. Sorry, I should have mentioned 
 the best source: http://www.freeocr.net/.
 
 NEVER TRUST CNET!
 
 Best,
 
 Allen
 
 On 11/30/2013 8:25 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
  On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:09:09 -0500
  Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:
 
  BEWARE !!!
  The download of FreeOCR from CNET brought along a huge mess of excess
  baggage.  After 3 attempts at System Restore, running Malware Bytes,
 Spybot,
  RegCure and Stinger got rid of (what I hope is all of) 243 infections.
  There may be a clean version out there but this exercise scared me off.
 
  I'll try Dave's Google Drive method.  Thanks to all, but I thought this
  warning was in order.  Hope it saves others a lot of grief.
 
  Cheers,
  Maurice Howe
  I'm retired. Go around me.
 
  The comments on the cnet freeocr page indicate such infestation.
 
  You could try Calibre, downloading only from
  http://calibre-ebook.com/
  which will convert a PDF into text. Anything I have ever downloaded from
 that calibre site has been clean.
 
  As a general rule I suggest only to download from an application's own
 site.
 
 
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RE: PDF-to-ODT conversion

[Think]

I like sourceforge. Thanks.

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 Also, many people such as myself trust CNET. Obviously that trust is
 misplaced. So if not CNET, then whom?

I trust sourceforge.net

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RE: PDF-to-ODT conversion

[Maurice Howe]

BEWARE !!!
The download of FreeOCR from CNET brought along a huge mess of excess
baggage.  After 3 attempts at System Restore, running Malware Bytes, Spybot,
RegCure and Stinger got rid of (what I hope is all of) 243 infections.
There may be a clean version out there but this exercise scared me off.

I'll try Dave's Google Drive method.  Thanks to all, but I thought this
warning was in order.  Hope it saves others a lot of grief. 

Cheers,
Maurice Howe
I'm retired. Go around me.

 


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From: Dave.Mainwaring [mailto:davemainwar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 5:11 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

I use Google drive for conversion.{Not the desktop version.} I copy or
upload the file directly to Google drive.
https://drive.google.com/

Then I select convert and down load, choose the type of file wanted, then
download.

{more button}
Convert and Download
Choose how you want to download each kind of file:
Change all formats to:   MS Office  -  Open Office  -  PDF




On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Allen Schaaf, CISSP 
netsecur...@sound-by-design.com wrote:

 There is another another possible solution that works for me when I 
 get a
 PDF: FreeOCR

 This free OCR software uses the Tesseract OCR engine. Tesseract OCR 
 code was developed at HP Labs between 1985 and 1995 and is currently 
 with Google. It is thought of as one of the most accurate open source 
 OCR engines available. Works very well for me both for PDFs and images.

 Allen

 On 11/29/2013 12:18 PM, Clarence Weaver wrote:

 Maurice,

 Another alternative to the last two options is to save the PDF as a 
 text file from the free Adobe Reader XI.

 Cheers,
 Clarence


 On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com
 wrote:

  Thanks to Brian  Rory for their help.  They gave 4 answers: find 
 the
 original DOC/ODT/etc file, use the PDF-to-DRAW facility of AOO, scan 
 the PDF, or hammer on the keyboard.

 Thanks again!

 Maurice

 On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:15:15 -0500
 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:

  How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?

 Cheers,
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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:09:09 -0500
Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 BEWARE !!!
 The download of FreeOCR from CNET brought along a huge mess of excess
 baggage.  After 3 attempts at System Restore, running Malware Bytes, Spybot,
 RegCure and Stinger got rid of (what I hope is all of) 243 infections.
 There may be a clean version out there but this exercise scared me off.
 
 I'll try Dave's Google Drive method.  Thanks to all, but I thought this
 warning was in order.  Hope it saves others a lot of grief. 
 
 Cheers,
 Maurice Howe
 I'm retired. Go around me.

The comments on the cnet freeocr page indicate such infestation. 

You could try Calibre, downloading only from 
http://calibre-ebook.com/
which will convert a PDF into text. Anything I have ever downloaded from that 
calibre site has been clean.

As a general rule I suggest only to download from an application's own site.

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RE: PDF-to-ODT conversion

[Maurice Howe]

Hmmm.  McAfee's Stinger32 anti-malware pgm said that it was the FreeOCR.exe
ITSELF that was the sort of all the grief.  I took Stinger's word for it,
and let Stinger delete the offending exe file.

Looks like my original inquire created quite a stir.  Sorry to have taken so
many of you from more important tasks.

Maurice Howe 

-Original Message-
From: Dave.Mainwaring [mailto:davemainwar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 1:07 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

It took me hours to clean up the trash that came with the free OCR, the
program does work.


On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

 On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:09:09 -0500
 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:

  BEWARE !!!
  The download of FreeOCR from CNET brought along a huge mess of 
  excess baggage.  After 3 attempts at System Restore, running Malware 
  Bytes,
 Spybot,
  RegCure and Stinger got rid of (what I hope is all of) 243 infections.
  There may be a clean version out there but this exercise scared me
off.
 
  I'll try Dave's Google Drive method.  Thanks to all, but I thought 
  this warning was in order.  Hope it saves others a lot of grief.
 
  Cheers,
  Maurice Howe
  I'm retired. Go around me.

 The comments on the cnet freeocr page indicate such infestation.

 You could try Calibre, downloading only from http://calibre-ebook.com/ 
 which will convert a PDF into text. Anything I have ever downloaded 
 from that calibre site has been clean.

 As a general rule I suggest only to download from an application's own 
 site.

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On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:15:15 -0500
Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?
  
 Cheers,
 Maurice Howe

For minor edits OpenOffice's PDF import extension will allow it be edited in 
Draw. For major edits (such as relayout or rewrite of the text) you need to use 
an OCR utility to read the text in the PDF then import the text from the OCR 
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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 14:50:39 +
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

 On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:15:15 -0500
 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:
 
  How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?
   
  Cheers,
  Maurice Howe
 
 For minor edits OpenOffice's PDF import extension will allow it be edited in 
 Draw. For major edits (such as relayout or rewrite of the text) you need to 
 use an OCR utility to read the text in the PDF then import the text from the 
 OCR into OpenOffice.
 

I forgot to add that this is not a trivial task for a document of any length, 
particularly if you have never done it before. Don't start this task against a 
deadline.

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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

[Julian Thomas]

On 29 Nov 2013, at 13:40, Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?

There seem to be [at least] two types of PDF files.

One are essentially scanned images.

The others are formatted text files that can be converted to .doc or .txt by 
either Adobe [full pop; not the free adobe reader] or a number of websites that 
do free file conversions.  If you can copy and paste from the PDF, you are most 
ways there on your own.

There are web sites that purport to convert scanned images to text files, but 
they seem to be finicky on the scanned image; I've not had good luck with these.

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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

[Fernando Cassia]

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

 For major edits (such as relayout or rewrite of the text) you need to use
 an OCR utility to read the text in the PDF


Rory,

There is a fundamental misconception here. A PDF is NOT a bitmap. A PDF,
more often than not, contains the TEXT inside, not a picture (bitmap) of
the page requiring OCR to extact the text.

That is on PROPERLY CREATED PDF files. I've seen lots of people who don't
know what they're doing that just scan pages and build a PDF. In those
instances, YES, the PDF doesn't contain searchable text, just bitmaps
(images) of every page. But that's not a properly created PDF file to begin
with.

FC


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Re: Pdf Konverter

[Robert Großkopf]

Hallo v.p...@t-online.de,

 Ich suche ein PDF Konverter der mit OpenOffice öffnet.
 
Vermutlich meinst Du etwas, womit Du *.pdf-Dateien mit OpenOffice öffnen
kannst. Für die aktuellen Versionen findest Du die Erweiterung hier:
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/17351

Gruß

Robert


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Re: Pdf Konverter

[tbgn]

vielen Dank für die schnelle Antwort

Dave schrieb, Am 29.10.2013 14:55:
 Es gibt zwei einfache Möglichkeiten:

 - einen Freeware PDF-Converter zu installieren:

http://www.chip.de/downloads/Free-PDF-to-Word-Doc-Converter_30052033.html

 - den Text einfach zu markieren und in OpenOffice Strg + Shift + v
einfügen
 (nicht einfach Strg + v). Zusammen mit den shift
(Großbuchstaben) gibt
 dir OpenOffice ein Auswahlmenü, in welchem Format du den Text einfügen
 möchtest

Re: Pdf Konverter

[Karl Zeiler]

Hallo Marino,

Salvalaggio Marino schrieb am Dienstag, 29. Oktober 2013 13:30:


Hi Robert,

auf  LibOff-Version: 4.+ lässt sich das nicht installieren!

Es erfolgt bei der Überprüfung der Systemvoraussetzung folgende
Mitteilung:

- Die Erweiterung kann nicht installiert werden, da die
- folgenden Systemvoraussetzungen nicht erfüllt sind:
- Die Erweiterung benötigt mindestens OpenOffice.org Referenzversion 4.0

gibt es eine Möglichkeit, das kompatibel zu machen?


Vielleicht verstehe ich Dich nicht richtig. Warum willst Du denn die 
Extension in LibreOffice 4 installieren? Seit Version 4.0 steht diese 
Extension nicht mehr als vorinstallierte Extension zur Verfügung, sondern 
ist bereits in den Programmcode integriert. Wenn Du also eine PDF-Datei in 
LibreOffice öffnen willst, wird sie in Draw zur Bearbeitung geladen.


Nichts anderes scheint die Extension für AOO auch zu tun.

Viele Grüße
Karl 




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Re: Pdf Konverter

[Dave]

in aller regel interessiert man sich bei pdfs nur um den inhalt. die ganzen
formatierungen - wenn sie denn überhaupt einigermaßen richtig übertragen
werden - stehen einer weiteren verarbeitung eher im weg. zumindest für
solche fälle finde ich die lösung mit strg+shift+v mit auswahl nur text
letztlich die unproblematischste lösung. außerdem gibt es so was wie
urheberrechte - da muss man bei einer eins-zu-eins verwendung aufpassen.


2013/10/29 Karl Zeiler karl.zei...@t-online.de

 Hallo Marino,

 Salvalaggio Marino schrieb am Dienstag, 29. Oktober 2013 13:30:


  Hi Robert,

 auf  LibOff-Version: 4.+ lässt sich das nicht installieren!

 Es erfolgt bei der Überprüfung der Systemvoraussetzung folgende
 Mitteilung:

 - Die Erweiterung kann nicht installiert werden, da die
 - folgenden Systemvoraussetzungen nicht erfüllt sind:
 - Die Erweiterung benötigt mindestens OpenOffice.org Referenzversion 4.0

 gibt es eine Möglichkeit, das kompatibel zu machen?


 Vielleicht verstehe ich Dich nicht richtig. Warum willst Du denn die
 Extension in LibreOffice 4 installieren? Seit Version 4.0 steht diese
 Extension nicht mehr als vorinstallierte Extension zur Verfügung, sondern
 ist bereits in den Programmcode integriert. Wenn Du also eine PDF-Datei in
 LibreOffice öffnen willst, wird sie in Draw zur Bearbeitung geladen.

 Nichts anderes scheint die Extension für AOO auch zu tun.

 Viele Grüße
 Karl


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