[ovirt-users] ISO_DOMAIN by NFS behavior (if NFS is unavailable)

2014-10-01 Thread ml ml
Hello List,

i have just tried to backup and replace my ovirt-engine.

My ovir-engine also provides the NFS share for the ISO Images.

However, if i take that nfs share away my ovirt-nodes and cluster
seems to fall apart.

I get those typical NFS stale file handle symthoms.

I can not umount or remount the NFS dirs anymore.

Any idea how i can fix this or better: protect myself from such an NFS failure?

Thanks,
Mario
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Re: [ovirt-users] ISO_DOMAIN by NFS behavior (if NFS is unavailable)

2014-10-01 Thread Michael Keller

Hello Mario,

you can set the ISO_DOMAIN to maintenance and then detach it from the 
cluster. All nodes will umount this NFS share when detaching it.

You can do your backup etc.

regards

Michael

Am 01.10.2014 um 12:50 schrieb ml ml:

Hello List,

i have just tried to backup and replace my ovirt-engine.

My ovir-engine also provides the NFS share for the ISO Images.

However, if i take that nfs share away my ovirt-nodes and cluster
seems to fall apart.

I get those typical NFS stale file handle symthoms.

I can not umount or remount the NFS dirs anymore.

Any idea how i can fix this or better: protect myself from such an NFS failure?

Thanks,
Mario
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Re: [ovirt-users] ISO_DOMAIN by NFS behavior (if NFS is unavailable)

2014-10-01 Thread ml ml
Hello Michael,


On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Michael Keller mkel...@psi.de wrote:
 Hello Mario,

 you can set the ISO_DOMAIN to maintenance and then detach it from the
 cluster. All nodes will umount this NFS share when detaching it.
 You can do your backup etc.


unfortunatelly this does not help if my ovirt-engine dies over sudden.

If i turn of my ovirt-engine the NFS ISO Domain goes down and i can
not set it to maintaince mode anymore.

Any other ideas?
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Re: [ovirt-users] ISO_DOMAIN by NFS behavior (if NFS is unavailable)

2014-10-01 Thread Michael Keller

Hello Mario,

do it before you turn of your engine and leave it detached, because 
normally it is not needed all the time.

Or create a new ISO_DOMAIN storage at a more save place.

Regards
Michael

Am 01.10.2014 um 14:21 schrieb ml ml:

Hello Michael,


On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Michael Keller mkel...@psi.de wrote:

Hello Mario,

you can set the ISO_DOMAIN to maintenance and then detach it from the
cluster. All nodes will umount this NFS share when detaching it.
You can do your backup etc.



unfortunatelly this does not help if my ovirt-engine dies over sudden.

If i turn of my ovirt-engine the NFS ISO Domain goes down and i can
not set it to maintaince mode anymore.

Any other ideas?





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Re: [ovirt-users] ISO_DOMAIN by NFS behavior (if NFS is unavailable)

2014-10-01 Thread ml ml
Hello Michael,

this cant be the answer. Maybe NFS is the wrong tool for the wrong
purpose in this case then.

I am talking about disaster recovery, but you only have soft failures in mind.




On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Michael Keller mkel...@psi.de wrote:
 Hello Mario,

 do it before you turn of your engine and leave it detached, because normally
 it is not needed all the time.
 Or create a new ISO_DOMAIN storage at a more save place.

 Regards
 Michael

 Am 01.10.2014 um 14:21 schrieb ml ml:

 Hello Michael,


 On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Michael Keller mkel...@psi.de wrote:

 Hello Mario,

 you can set the ISO_DOMAIN to maintenance and then detach it from the
 cluster. All nodes will umount this NFS share when detaching it.
 You can do your backup etc.


 unfortunatelly this does not help if my ovirt-engine dies over sudden.

 If i turn of my ovirt-engine the NFS ISO Domain goes down and i can
 not set it to maintaince mode anymore.

 Any other ideas?


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Re: [ovirt-users] ISO_DOMAIN by NFS behavior (if NFS is unavailable)

2014-10-01 Thread Groten, Ryan
I had the same challenge and ended up taking the service off my hosted-engine 
and putting it elsewhere as a workaround.  
But if I remember right you can still set maintenance mode when the 
hosted-engine is down, just can't run vm-status?

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Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] ISO_DOMAIN by NFS behavior (if NFS is unavailable)

Hello Michael,

this cant be the answer. Maybe NFS is the wrong tool for the wrong purpose in 
this case then.

I am talking about disaster recovery, but you only have soft failures in mind.




On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Michael Keller mkel...@psi.de wrote:
 Hello Mario,

 do it before you turn of your engine and leave it detached, because 
 normally it is not needed all the time.
 Or create a new ISO_DOMAIN storage at a more save place.

 Regards
 Michael

 Am 01.10.2014 um 14:21 schrieb ml ml:

 Hello Michael,


 On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Michael Keller mkel...@psi.de wrote:

 Hello Mario,

 you can set the ISO_DOMAIN to maintenance and then detach it from 
 the cluster. All nodes will umount this NFS share when detaching it.
 You can do your backup etc.


 unfortunatelly this does not help if my ovirt-engine dies over sudden.

 If i turn of my ovirt-engine the NFS ISO Domain goes down and i can 
 not set it to maintaince mode anymore.

 Any other ideas?


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