[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless Backup update: Trilio Vault, pay $7500

[Michal Skrivanek]

> On 8 Feb 2019, at 12:15, femi adegoke  wrote:
> 
> For some weird reason, I don't see my original comments on the list.ovirt 
> forum pages.
> Here it is:
> 
> Back in June of 2018, I posted regarding Agentless backup solutions.
> Greg Sheremeta replied & mentioned Trilio.
> 
> The rest of the story...well just read on...
> 
> These guys at Trilio have turned out to be a complete waste of time. (I could 
> use some more colorful language)
> 
> After my post & reply from Greg Sheremeta, I followed up with Trilio.
> A lot of promises/dates were made (by Trilio) as to when a beta would be made 
> available for testing.
> Needless to say, they never came through.
> Finally in Dec 2018, they said we are ready for the demo, we will show you a 
> working product.
> The day came, Trilio said, sorry it's too close to Xmas, we will postpone the 
> demo's till 2019.
> In 2019, I continued to follow up & finally they set a date for another demo 
> - Jan 29.
> On Jan. 29, we get on the Webex, they said, sorry the demo just broke 10 mins 
> prior to our call, so no demo.
> They show me some screenshots & their OpenStack version & again promise to 
> get me beta software in a few days.
> I continue to follow up (via email)
> 
> Yesterday (Feb 6), I get an email from Thomas Lahive GM; Sales and Alliance 
> Partners(copied & pasted below):
> "We started RHV betas and decided to prioritize current Trilio customers 
> (those that purchased Triliovault for Openstack).  
> If you would like to be part of the beta now then We can sign you up as a 
> certified Trilio reseller which has a $7,500 Starter Fee. The $7,500 will be 
> credited against your first customer order that is at least $7,500 so it will 
> eventually cost you nothing. Many of our partners can apply the fee against 
> revenue so it's a great tax incentive, but you can confirm with your finance 
> department.   
> Please Lmk how you would like to proceed.”

Seems you’ve hit sales people instead of a developer community, that’s usually 
a different experience.

> 
> Please remember, I have never seen a working demo of this product, never.
> 
> Is this typical behavior of RH partners?

I hope not.
But we as oVirt community project can’t really tell. As far as I can see they 
only claim to support certain OpenStack versions and whether they work on other 
support is something entirely on them.
Of course I’m hoping that they will eventually finish it and support oVirt/RHV 
to widen user’s choices, but we can’t really influence if and when that happens.

Also there is certain difference between community project and Red Hat 
products. A commercial company may decide to focus on supporting products 
rather than upstream projects (e.g.. AFAICT the existing trilio support for 
openstack means Red Hat OpenStack Platform product, not a ”xyz" upstream 
release) and so it is not too surprising to me they may work on different 
schedules, targets, etc.

Thanks,
michal

> 
> On Feb 7 2019, at 9:05 pm, Strahil  wrote:
> Hey Femi,
> 
> Just run away ... For me it seems, that they don't have that software ready 
> for ovirt.
> 
> Best Regards,
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless Backup update: Trilio Vault, pay $7500

[femi adegoke]

Sinan,

Take a look at https://storware.eu/en/storware-vprotect/
vProtect covers oVirt, RHv & also standalone KVM.
On Feb 8 2019, at 3:27 am, Sinan Polat  wrote:
> Thanks for your post. I was recently looking for backup solutions which 
> supports RHV/oVirt and OpenStack. I saw Trilio is providing this, but if I 
> read your experience we should stay away from it.
>
> Other experiences?
>
> Op 8 feb. 2019 om 12:15 heeft femi adegoke  (mailto:ov...@fateknollogee.com)> het volgende geschreven:
> > For some weird reason, I don't see my original comments on the list.ovirt 
> > forum pages.
> > Here it is:
> >
> > Back in June of 2018, I posted regarding Agentless backup solutions.
> > Greg Sheremeta replied & mentioned Trilio.
> >
> > The rest of the story...well just read on...
> > These guys at Trilio have turned out to be a complete waste of time. (I 
> > could use some more colorful language)
> > After my post & reply from Greg Sheremeta, I followed up with Trilio.
> > A lot of promises/dates were made (by Trilio) as to when a beta would be 
> > made available for testing.
> > Needless to say, they never came through.
> > Finally in Dec 2018, they said we are ready for the demo, we will show you 
> > a working product.
> > The day came, Trilio said, sorry it's too close to Xmas, we will postpone 
> > the demo's till 2019.
> > In 2019, I continued to follow up & finally they set a date for another 
> > demo - Jan 29.
> > On Jan. 29, we get on the Webex, they said, sorry the demo just broke 10 
> > mins prior to our call, so no demo.
> > They show me some screenshots & their OpenStack version & again promise to 
> > get me beta software in a few days.
> > I continue to follow up (via email)
> >
> > Yesterday (Feb 6), I get an email from Thomas Lahive GM; Sales and Alliance 
> > Partners(copied & pasted below):
> > "We started RHV betas and decided to prioritize current Trilio customers 
> > (those that purchased Triliovault for Openstack).
> > If you would like to be part of the beta now then We can sign you up as a 
> > certified Trilio reseller which has a $7,500 Starter Fee. The $7,500 will 
> > be credited against your first customer order that is at least $7,500 so it 
> > will eventually cost you nothing. Many of our partners can apply the fee 
> > against revenue so it's a great tax incentive, but you can confirm with 
> > your finance department.
> > Please Lmk how you would like to proceed."
> >
> > Please remember, I have never seen a working demo of this product, never.
> > Is this typical behavior of RH partners?
> > On Feb 7 2019, at 9:05 pm, Strahil  > (mailto:hunter86...@yahoo.com)> wrote:
> > > Hey Femi,
> > >
> > >
> > > Just run away ... For me it seems, that they don't have that software 
> > > ready for ovirt.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Strahil Nikolov
> > >
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless Backup update: Trilio Vault, pay $7500

[Jorick Astrego]

Hi,

We are currently starting an evaluation of
https://wiki.sep.de/wiki/index.php/RHEV_backup

Our experiences with the supplier are excellent and it has been out for
a while now.

Testing of the actual software is scheduled for this month.

Regards, Jorick Astrego

Netbulae B.V.

On 2/8/19 12:27 PM, Sinan Polat wrote:
> Thanks for your post. I was recently looking for backup solutions
> which supports RHV/oVirt and OpenStack. I saw Trilio is providing
> this, but if I read your experience we should stay away from it.
>
> Other experiences?
>
> Op 8 feb. 2019 om 12:15 heeft femi adegoke  > het volgende geschreven:
>
>> For some weird reason, I don't see my original comments on the
>> list.ovirt forum pages.
>> Here it is:
>>
>> Back in June of 2018, I posted regarding Agentless backup solutions.
>> Greg Sheremeta replied & mentioned Trilio.
>>
>> The rest of the story...well just read on...
>>
>> These guys at Trilio have turned out to be a complete waste of time.
>> (I could use some more colorful language)
>>
>> After my post & reply from Greg Sheremeta, I followed up with Trilio.
>> A lot of promises/dates were made (by Trilio) as to when a beta would
>> be made available for testing.
>> Needless to say, they never came through.
>> Finally in Dec 2018, they said we are ready for the demo, we will
>> show you a working product.
>> The day came, Trilio said, sorry it's too close to Xmas, we will
>> postpone the demo's till 2019.
>> In 2019, I continued to follow up & finally they set a date for
>> another demo - Jan 29.
>> On Jan. 29, we get on the Webex, they said, sorry the demo just broke
>> 10 mins prior to our call, so no demo.
>> They show me some screenshots & their OpenStack version & again
>> promise to get me beta software in a few days.
>> I continue to follow up (via email)
>>
>> Yesterday (Feb 6), I get an email from Thomas Lahive GM; Sales and
>> Alliance Partners(copied & pasted below):
>> "We started RHV betas and decided to prioritize current Trilio
>> customers (those that purchased Triliovault for Openstack).  
>> If you would like to be part of the beta now then We can sign you up
>> as a certified Trilio reseller which has a $7,500 Starter Fee. The
>> $7,500 will be credited against your first customer order that is at
>> least $7,500 so it will eventually cost you nothing. Many of our
>> partners can apply the fee against revenue so it's a great tax
>> incentive, but you can confirm with your finance department.   
>> Please Lmk how you would like to proceed."
>>
>> Please remember, I have never seen a working demo of this product, never.
>>
>> Is this typical behavior of RH partners?
>>
>> On Feb 7 2019, at 9:05 pm, Strahil > > wrote:
>>
>> Hey Femi,
>>
>> Just run away ... For me it seems, that they don't have that
>> software ready for ovirt.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Strahil Nikolov
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Met vriendelijke groet, With kind regards,

Jorick Astrego

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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless Backup update: Trilio Vault, pay $7500

[Sinan Polat]

Thanks for your post. I was recently looking for backup solutions which 
supports RHV/oVirt and OpenStack. I saw Trilio is providing this, but if I read 
your experience we should stay away from it.

Other experiences?

> Op 8 feb. 2019 om 12:15 heeft femi adegoke  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> For some weird reason, I don't see my original comments on the list.ovirt 
> forum pages.
> Here it is:
> 
> Back in June of 2018, I posted regarding Agentless backup solutions.
> Greg Sheremeta replied & mentioned Trilio.
> 
> The rest of the story...well just read on...
> 
> These guys at Trilio have turned out to be a complete waste of time. (I could 
> use some more colorful language)
> 
> After my post & reply from Greg Sheremeta, I followed up with Trilio.
> A lot of promises/dates were made (by Trilio) as to when a beta would be made 
> available for testing.
> Needless to say, they never came through.
> Finally in Dec 2018, they said we are ready for the demo, we will show you a 
> working product.
> The day came, Trilio said, sorry it's too close to Xmas, we will postpone the 
> demo's till 2019.
> In 2019, I continued to follow up & finally they set a date for another demo 
> - Jan 29.
> On Jan. 29, we get on the Webex, they said, sorry the demo just broke 10 mins 
> prior to our call, so no demo.
> They show me some screenshots & their OpenStack version & again promise to 
> get me beta software in a few days.
> I continue to follow up (via email)
> 
> Yesterday (Feb 6), I get an email from Thomas Lahive GM; Sales and Alliance 
> Partners(copied & pasted below):
> "We started RHV betas and decided to prioritize current Trilio customers 
> (those that purchased Triliovault for Openstack).  
> If you would like to be part of the beta now then We can sign you up as a 
> certified Trilio reseller which has a $7,500 Starter Fee. The $7,500 will be 
> credited against your first customer order that is at least $7,500 so it will 
> eventually cost you nothing. Many of our partners can apply the fee against 
> revenue so it's a great tax incentive, but you can confirm with your finance 
> department.   
> Please Lmk how you would like to proceed."
> 
> Please remember, I have never seen a working demo of this product, never.
> 
> Is this typical behavior of RH partners?
> 
> On Feb 7 2019, at 9:05 pm, Strahil  wrote:
> Hey Femi,
> 
> Just run away ... For me it seems, that they don't have that software ready 
> for ovirt.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Strahil Nikolov
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless Backup update: Trilio Vault, pay $7500

[femi adegoke]

For some weird reason, I don't see my original comments on the list.ovirt forum 
pages.
Here it is:

Back in June of 2018, I posted regarding Agentless backup solutions.
Greg Sheremeta replied & mentioned Trilio.

The rest of the story...well just read on...
These guys at Trilio have turned out to be a complete waste of time. (I could 
use some more colorful language)
After my post & reply from Greg Sheremeta, I followed up with Trilio.
A lot of promises/dates were made (by Trilio) as to when a beta would be made 
available for testing.
Needless to say, they never came through.
Finally in Dec 2018, they said we are ready for the demo, we will show you a 
working product.
The day came, Trilio said, sorry it's too close to Xmas, we will postpone the 
demo's till 2019.
In 2019, I continued to follow up & finally they set a date for another demo - 
Jan 29.
On Jan. 29, we get on the Webex, they said, sorry the demo just broke 10 mins 
prior to our call, so no demo.
They show me some screenshots & their OpenStack version & again promise to get 
me beta software in a few days.
I continue to follow up (via email)

Yesterday (Feb 6), I get an email from Thomas Lahive GM; Sales and Alliance 
Partners(copied & pasted below):
"We started RHV betas and decided to prioritize current Trilio customers (those 
that purchased Triliovault for Openstack).
If you would like to be part of the beta now then We can sign you up as a 
certified Trilio reseller which has a $7,500 Starter Fee. The $7,500 will be 
credited against your first customer order that is at least $7,500 so it will 
eventually cost you nothing. Many of our partners can apply the fee against 
revenue so it's a great tax incentive, but you can confirm with your finance 
department.
Please Lmk how you would like to proceed."

Please remember, I have never seen a working demo of this product, never.
Is this typical behavior of RH partners?
On Feb 7 2019, at 9:05 pm, Strahil  wrote:
> Hey Femi,
>
>
> Just run away ... For me it seems, that they don't have that software ready 
> for ovirt.
>
> Best Regards,
> Strahil Nikolov
>
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless Backup update: Trilio Vault, pay $7500

[femi adegoke]

Hi Strahil,

Do you have any experiences similar to mine?
On Feb 7 2019, at 9:05 pm, Strahil  wrote:
> Hey Femi,
>
>
> Just run away ... For me it seems, that they don't have that software ready 
> for ovirt.
>
> Best Regards,
> Strahil Nikolov
>
>

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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless Backup update: Trilio Vault, pay $7500

[Strahil]

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