Re: [ovirt-users] update vm in a pool

2014-05-15 Thread nicola gentile
Hi,
in a pool the vm is not stateless only?
I created a pool and I assigned users to it.
I applied your solution and it works fine.
I would like to tell you that after I upgrade the server, the firewall
is always abilitated though I've disabled.
After that I must disable the firewall.

Thank you a lot for your help.

ng


2014-05-14 1:42 GMT+02:00 Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com:
 On 05/13/2014 11:00 AM, nicola gentile wrote:

 Good morning,
 I am new user, and I would ask you an information.
 I have installed ovirt 3.4.
 I created a pool with 3 vm, too.

 I should add software to 3 vm how I must proceed?
 1) I must delete the vm from pool, and than add the software and then
 recreate the pool?
 2) or there are other solution?

 Thank you a lot.

 ng
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 do you want to use the VMs as stateless or statefull?
 did you use the pool to assign a single vm per user from user portal, or
 just to create a bunch of similar VMs?

 3.4 has template versions, so you can create a new version of the
 template, and next time you shutdown/start the VMs, they will rebase to
 latest version of the template if pool is so defined.

 you can also install the application on the VM after you start it as an
 admin (which doesn't create the stateless snapshot by default like when a
 user starts the pool'd vm from the user portal).
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Re: [ovirt-users] update vm in a pool

2014-05-15 Thread Itamar Heim

On 05/15/2014 05:07 AM, nicola gentile wrote:

Hi,
in a pool the vm is not stateless only?
I created a pool and I assigned users to it.
I applied your solution and it works fine.
I would like to tell you that after I upgrade the server, the firewall
is always abilitated though I've disabled.
After that I must disable the firewall.

Thank you a lot for your help.



VMs from a pool are stateless (return to base on shutdown) if:
- started from admin portal as stateless (via runonce)
- started from user portal (as-is) in an automatic pool

VMs from a pool are statefull if:
- started from admin portal
- the pool is manual - until the VM is returned to pool.

admin not being stateless allows to do the following;

- create the pool
- start the VMs from the admin portal (say, to have them sysprep)
- shut them down, take a snapshot!
- now use them as statless with the snapshot

(Omer - was this use case checked with template versions - that all 
snapshots are deleted? does it delete the entire VM?)



ng


2014-05-14 1:42 GMT+02:00 Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com:

On 05/13/2014 11:00 AM, nicola gentile wrote:


Good morning,
I am new user, and I would ask you an information.
I have installed ovirt 3.4.
I created a pool with 3 vm, too.

I should add software to 3 vm how I must proceed?
1) I must delete the vm from pool, and than add the software and then
recreate the pool?
2) or there are other solution?

Thank you a lot.

ng
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do you want to use the VMs as stateless or statefull?
did you use the pool to assign a single vm per user from user portal, or
just to create a bunch of similar VMs?

3.4 has template versions, so you can create a new version of the
template, and next time you shutdown/start the VMs, they will rebase to
latest version of the template if pool is so defined.

you can also install the application on the VM after you start it as an
admin (which doesn't create the stateless snapshot by default like when a
user starts the pool'd vm from the user portal).

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Re: [ovirt-users] update vm in a pool

2014-05-15 Thread Omer Frenkel


- Original Message -
 From: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com
 To: nicola gentile nicola.gentile...@gmail.com, Users@ovirt.org 
 users@ovirt.org, Omer Frenkel
 ofren...@redhat.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:29:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] update vm in a pool
 
 On 05/15/2014 05:07 AM, nicola gentile wrote:
  Hi,
  in a pool the vm is not stateless only?
  I created a pool and I assigned users to it.
  I applied your solution and it works fine.
  I would like to tell you that after I upgrade the server, the firewall
  is always abilitated though I've disabled.
  After that I must disable the firewall.
 
  Thank you a lot for your help.
 
 
 VMs from a pool are stateless (return to base on shutdown) if:
 - started from admin portal as stateless (via runonce)
 - started from user portal (as-is) in an automatic pool
 
 VMs from a pool are statefull if:
 - started from admin portal
 - the pool is manual - until the VM is returned to pool.
 
 admin not being stateless allows to do the following;
 
 - create the pool
 - start the VMs from the admin portal (say, to have them sysprep)
 - shut them down, take a snapshot!
 - now use them as statless with the snapshot
 
 (Omer - was this use case checked with template versions - that all
 snapshots are deleted? does it delete the entire VM?)
 

yes, entire vm is deleted and re-created from the new version of the template.

  ng
 
 
  2014-05-14 1:42 GMT+02:00 Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com:
  On 05/13/2014 11:00 AM, nicola gentile wrote:
 
  Good morning,
  I am new user, and I would ask you an information.
  I have installed ovirt 3.4.
  I created a pool with 3 vm, too.
 
  I should add software to 3 vm how I must proceed?
  1) I must delete the vm from pool, and than add the software and then
  recreate the pool?
  2) or there are other solution?
 
  Thank you a lot.
 
  ng
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  do you want to use the VMs as stateless or statefull?
  did you use the pool to assign a single vm per user from user portal, or
  just to create a bunch of similar VMs?
 
  3.4 has template versions, so you can create a new version of the
  template, and next time you shutdown/start the VMs, they will rebase to
  latest version of the template if pool is so defined.
 
  you can also install the application on the VM after you start it as an
  admin (which doesn't create the stateless snapshot by default like when a
  user starts the pool'd vm from the user portal).
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[ovirt-users] update vm in a pool

2014-05-13 Thread nicola gentile
Good morning,
I am new user, and I would ask you an information.
I have installed ovirt 3.4.
I created a pool with 3 vm, too.

I should add software to 3 vm how I must proceed?
1) I must delete the vm from pool, and than add the software and then
recreate the pool?
2) or there are other solution?

Thank you a lot.

ng
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Re: [ovirt-users] update vm in a pool

2014-05-13 Thread Itamar Heim

On 05/13/2014 11:00 AM, nicola gentile wrote:

Good morning,
I am new user, and I would ask you an information.
I have installed ovirt 3.4.
I created a pool with 3 vm, too.

I should add software to 3 vm how I must proceed?
1) I must delete the vm from pool, and than add the software and then
recreate the pool?
2) or there are other solution?

Thank you a lot.

ng
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do you want to use the VMs as stateless or statefull?
did you use the pool to assign a single vm per user from user portal, or 
just to create a bunch of similar VMs?


3.4 has template versions, so you can create a new version of the 
template, and next time you shutdown/start the VMs, they will rebase to 
latest version of the template if pool is so defined.


you can also install the application on the VM after you start it as an 
admin (which doesn't create the stateless snapshot by default like when 
a user starts the pool'd vm from the user portal).

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