Re: [ovirt-users] Shared storage between DC

2016-05-02 Thread Idan Shaby
Hi Arsène,

There's no way to have a storage domain that is available in one cluster
but not available in the other, in the same dc. It is by design.


Regards,
Idan

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Arsène Gschwind 
wrote:

> Hi Idan,
>
> Thanks a lot for your answer, that's clear now.
> I will change my setup and use 2 cluster in the same DC instead.
> In the case using 2 cluster in the same DC I've noticed that all Storage
> domain have to be available for all clusters, in my case I use SAN Storage.
> Is this by design or is there a way to have some Storage Domain only
> available on one cluster but not on the others?
>
> Regards,
> Arsène
>
>
> On 05/02/2016 02:33 PM, Idan Shaby wrote:
>
> Hi Arsène,
>
> The only storage domain that can be shared between datacenters is the iso
> domain
> But that's not what you're looking for. You can't share a data domain
> between two datacenters.
>
> As for importing a storage domain which is active on one datacenter to
> another datacenter, there are two cases:
> - If the datacenters are in the same oVirt setup, that won't be possible,
> and the operation will not be performed.
> - If the datacenters are in two different oVirt setups, the import to the
> second datacenter will succeed, but you will experience issues in the first
> datacenter.
> The reason for that is that the host in the second datacenter overrides
> the storage domain metadata when importing it.
>
> Therefore, you cannot import a storage domain to a second datacenter while
> it is active on the first one, anyway.
>
>
> Regards,
> Idan
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Arsène Gschwind <
> arsene.gschw...@unibas.ch> wrote:
>
>> Hi Roberto,
>>
>> Thanks for your information but
>> When I'm writing about DC I mean defined DC in oVirt and so far I could
>> see that when you define a storage domain in one oVirt DC it will not be
>> available in another DC and I don't know what would happen if I would
>> import it on the second DC.
>> In your setup, did you just define 1 DC and multiple clusters?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Arsène
>>
>>
>> On 05/01/2016 01:37 PM, NUNIN Roberto wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> I have in production the scenery something similar to what you've
>> described.
>> The "enabling factor" is represented by an "storage virtualization" set
>> of appliances, that maintain mirrored logical volume over fc physical
>> volumes across two distinct datacenters, while giving rw simultaneus access
>> to cluster hypervisors split between datacenters, that run the VMs.
>>
>> So: cluster also is spread across dc, no need to import nothing.
>> Regards,
>>
>> *Roberto*
>>
>>
>>
>> Il giorno 01 mag 2016, alle ore 10:37, Arsène Gschwind <
>> arsene.gschw...@unibas.ch> ha scritto:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is it possible to have a shared Storage domain between 2 Datacenter in
>> oVirt?
>> We do replicate a FC Volume between 2 datacenter using FC SAN storage
>> technology and we have an oVirt cluster on each site defined in separate
>> DCs. The idea behind this is to setup a DR site and also balance the load
>> between each site.
>> What happens if I do import a storage domain already active in one DC,
>> will it break the Storage domain?
>>
>> Thanks for any information..
>> Regards,
>> Arsène
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Re: [ovirt-users] Shared storage between DC

2016-05-02 Thread Arsène Gschwind

Hi Idan,

Thanks a lot for your answer, that's clear now.
I will change my setup and use 2 cluster in the same DC instead.
In the case using 2 cluster in the same DC I've noticed that all Storage 
domain have to be available for all clusters, in my case I use SAN 
Storage. Is this by design or is there a way to have some Storage Domain 
only available on one cluster but not on the others?


Regards,
Arsène

On 05/02/2016 02:33 PM, Idan Shaby wrote:

Hi Arsène,

The only storage domain that can be shared between datacenters is the 
iso domain
But that's not what you're looking for. You can't share a data domain 
between two datacenters.


As for importing a storage domain which is active on one datacenter to 
another datacenter, there are two cases:
- If the datacenters are in the same oVirt setup, that won't be 
possible, and the operation will not be performed.
- If the datacenters are in two different oVirt setups, the import to 
the second datacenter will succeed, but you will experience issues in 
the first datacenter.
The reason for that is that the host in the second datacenter 
overrides the storage domain metadata when importing it.


Therefore, you cannot import a storage domain to a second datacenter 
while it is active on the first one, anyway.



Regards,
Idan

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Arsène Gschwind 
> wrote:


Hi Roberto,

Thanks for your information but
When I'm writing about DC I mean defined DC in oVirt and so far I
could see that when you define a storage domain in one oVirt DC it
will not be available in another DC and I don't know what would
happen if I would import it on the second DC.
In your setup, did you just define 1 DC and multiple clusters?

Regards,
Arsène


On 05/01/2016 01:37 PM, NUNIN Roberto wrote:

Hi
I have in production the scenery something similar to what you've
described.
The "enabling factor" is represented by an "storage
virtualization" set of appliances, that maintain mirrored logical
volume over fc physical volumes across two distinct datacenters,
while giving rw simultaneus access to cluster hypervisors split
between datacenters, that run the VMs.

So: cluster also is spread across dc, no need to import nothing.
Regards,

*Roberto*


Il giorno 01 mag 2016, alle ore 10:37, Arsène Gschwind
> ha
scritto:


Hi,

Is it possible to have a shared Storage domain between 2
Datacenter in oVirt?
We do replicate a FC Volume between 2 datacenter using FC SAN
storage technology and we have an oVirt cluster on each site
defined in separate DCs. The idea behind this is to setup a DR
site and also balance the load between each site.
What happens if I do import a storage domain already active in
one DC, will it break the Storage domain?

Thanks for any information..
Regards,
Arsène
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Re: [ovirt-users] Shared storage between DC

2016-05-02 Thread Idan Shaby
Hi Arsène,

The only storage domain that can be shared between datacenters is the iso
domain
But that's not what you're looking for. You can't share a data domain
between two datacenters.

As for importing a storage domain which is active on one datacenter to
another datacenter, there are two cases:
- If the datacenters are in the same oVirt setup, that won't be possible,
and the operation will not be performed.
- If the datacenters are in two different oVirt setups, the import to the
second datacenter will succeed, but you will experience issues in the first
datacenter.
The reason for that is that the host in the second datacenter overrides the
storage domain metadata when importing it.

Therefore, you cannot import a storage domain to a second datacenter while
it is active on the first one, anyway.


Regards,
Idan

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Arsène Gschwind 
wrote:

> Hi Roberto,
>
> Thanks for your information but
> When I'm writing about DC I mean defined DC in oVirt and so far I could
> see that when you define a storage domain in one oVirt DC it will not be
> available in another DC and I don't know what would happen if I would
> import it on the second DC.
> In your setup, did you just define 1 DC and multiple clusters?
>
> Regards,
> Arsène
>
>
> On 05/01/2016 01:37 PM, NUNIN Roberto wrote:
>
> Hi
> I have in production the scenery something similar to what you've
> described.
> The "enabling factor" is represented by an "storage virtualization" set of
> appliances, that maintain mirrored logical volume over fc physical volumes
> across two distinct datacenters, while giving rw simultaneus access to
> cluster hypervisors split between datacenters, that run the VMs.
>
> So: cluster also is spread across dc, no need to import nothing.
> Regards,
>
> *Roberto*
>
>
>
> Il giorno 01 mag 2016, alle ore 10:37, Arsène Gschwind <
> arsene.gschw...@unibas.ch> ha scritto:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to have a shared Storage domain between 2 Datacenter in
> oVirt?
> We do replicate a FC Volume between 2 datacenter using FC SAN storage
> technology and we have an oVirt cluster on each site defined in separate
> DCs. The idea behind this is to setup a DR site and also balance the load
> between each site.
> What happens if I do import a storage domain already active in one DC,
> will it break the Storage domain?
>
> Thanks for any information..
> Regards,
> Arsène
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Re: [ovirt-users] Shared storage between DC

2016-05-01 Thread NUNIN Roberto
Hi
I have in production the scenery something similar to what you've described.
The "enabling factor" is represented by an "storage virtualization" set of 
appliances, that maintain mirrored logical volume over fc physical volumes 
across two distinct datacenters, while giving rw simultaneus access to cluster 
hypervisors split between datacenters, that run the VMs.

So: cluster also is spread across dc, no need to import nothing.
Regards,

Roberto


Il giorno 01 mag 2016, alle ore 10:37, Arsène Gschwind 
> ha scritto:

Hi,

Is it possible to have a shared Storage domain between 2 Datacenter in oVirt?
We do replicate a FC Volume between 2 datacenter using FC SAN storage 
technology and we have an oVirt cluster on each site defined in separate DCs. 
The idea behind this is to setup a DR site and also balance the load between 
each site.
What happens if I do import a storage domain already active in one DC, will it 
break the Storage domain?

Thanks for any information..
Regards,
Arsène
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