Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-13 Thread Rupert Gallagher
They are very different tools. One uses an SMTP RFC repeat clause to understand whether the attacker is using a real server, slowing burst connections and eventually adding the IP to the firewall. This is limited to port 25, and it does not work against ddos attacks, because pf is not that

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-12 Thread Bill Cole
On 12 Feb 2019, at 15:04, Rupert Gallagher wrote: Ehhh not available on bsd with pf, or so it was the last time I checked. A good 'tarpit' tool that IS available for *BSD (originating on OpenBSD) is 'spamd' which unfortunately shares a name with the daemon aspect of SA. There's a port

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-12 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 12 Feb 2019, Rupert Gallagher wrote: Ehhh not available on bsd with pf, or so it was the last time I checked. Bummer. Good for you as you have it! It is a fantastic piece of aikido. On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 18:19, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 12 Feb 2019, Rupert Gallagher

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-12 Thread Rupert Gallagher
On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 18:34, RW wrote: > On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:49:27 + > Rupert Gallagher wrote: > > Before the change, the >> service stated that the IP fell into their spamtrap, whatever that >> is. > > Seriously? > >> The fact remains that we have never sent mail to the gremlin, > >

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-12 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Ehhh not available on bsd with pf, or so it was the last time I checked. Good for you as you have it! It is a fantastic piece of aikido. On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 18:19, John Hardin wrote: > On Tue, 12 Feb 2019, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > >> and we have now blocked their IP at the firewall, >

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-12 Thread Rupert Gallagher
I like it! On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 18:15, John Hardin wrote: > On Tue, 12 Feb 2019, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > >> Let see if the mail arrives with the correct escaping this time. >> >> body __HAS_URI /(http|https):/// >> tflags __HAS_URI multiple >> meta TMU ( _HAS_URI > 10 ) >> describe TMU Too

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-12 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Ah, ok... On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 18:04, RW wrote: > On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:38:47 + > Rupert Gallagher wrote: > >> Let see if the mail arrives with the correct escaping this time. >> >> body __HAS_URI /(http|https):/// >> tflags __HAS_URI multiple >> meta TMU ( _HAS_URI > 10 ) >> describe

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-12 Thread RW
On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:49:27 + Rupert Gallagher wrote: Before the change, the > service stated that the IP fell into their spamtrap, whatever that > is. Seriously? > The fact remains that we have never sent mail to the gremlin, How can you possibly know that you haven't sent anything to

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-12 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 12 Feb 2019, Rupert Gallagher wrote: and we have now blocked their IP at the firewall, A suggestion: it may hurt them more if you TCP tarpit them instead of just blocking them. That's what I do. Perhaps a little stale, and overkill for manual punishment, but it documents the

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-12 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 12 Feb 2019, Rupert Gallagher wrote: Let see if the mail arrives with the correct escaping this time. body __HAS_URI /(http|https):\/\// tflags __HAS_URI multiple meta TMU ( _HAS_URI > 10 ) describe TMU Too many URIs (>10) score TMU 5.0 How about: uri __HAS_URI /^http/i

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-12 Thread RW
On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:38:47 + Rupert Gallagher wrote: > Let see if the mail arrives with the correct escaping this time. > > body __HAS_URI /(http|https):\/\// > tflags __HAS_URI multiple > meta TMU ( _HAS_URI > 10 ) > describe TMU Too many URIs (>10) > score TMU 5.0 > > Those who fill

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-12 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Note that the "too many uris" thing has nothing to do with the Russian gremlin who, in the meantime, has disabled the part of the rbl that explains why the IP was listed. Before the change, the service stated that the IP fell into their spamtrap, whatever that is. The fact remains that we have

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-12 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Let see if the mail arrives with the correct escaping this time. body __HAS_URI /(http|https):\/\// tflags __HAS_URI multiple meta TMU ( _HAS_URI > 10 ) describe TMU Too many URIs (>10) score TMU 5.0 As rightly noted, the same link is counted twice, for text and html bodies when they are

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-12 Thread RW
On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 09:44:02 + MAYER Hans wrote: > “full” statement should be: full __HAS_URI /(http|https):\/\// This is still a poor rule, "full" is actually the worst type to use. Both full and rawbody can find a lot more links than are relevant. It's already been mentioned that

RE: RE: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-12 Thread MAYER Hans
biz/?beiqv <http://beiqv.biz/?beiqv> beiqv I learned a lot. Your reply was very helpful. Kind regards Hans From: Rupert Gallagher Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 7:37 PM To: MAYER Hans ; SA Subject: Re: RE: New type of SPAM aggression full __HAS_URI /(http|https):/// tflags __HAS_

Re: RE: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-07 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Rupert Gallagher wrote: full __HAS_URI /(http|https):/// tflags __HAS_URI multiple meta TMU ( _HAS_URI > 10 ) describe TMU Too many URIs (>10) score TMU 5.0 Beaware, if the mail has properly-formed HTML and plain-text alternate versions, that will double-count every

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-07 Thread Benny Pedersen
Rupert Gallagher skrev den 2019-02-07 19:37: full __HAS_URI /(http|https):/// tflags __HAS_URI multiple meta TMU ( _HAS_URI > 10 ) describe TMU Too many URIs (>10) score TMU 5.0 mixed http and https, real spam browsers would not like it

Re: RE: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-07 Thread Rupert Gallagher
full __HAS_URI /(http|https):/// tflags __HAS_URI multiple meta TMU ( _HAS_URI > 10 ) describe TMU Too many URIs (>10) score TMU 5.0 On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 09:12, MAYER Hans wrote: > > >> … All emails were spam with links. … > > We receive such spam mails with a lot of links too. > > Is there

RE: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-07 Thread MAYER Hans
> … All emails were spam with links. … We receive such spam mails with a lot of links too. Is there a rule which detects a certain amount of links inside an e-mail ? // Hans -- From: Rupert Gallagher Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 12:55 PM To: SA Subject: New type of SPAM aggression

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-06 Thread Rupert Gallagher
On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 15:42, RW wrote: > On Wed, 06 Feb 2019 11:55:07 + > Rupert Gallagher wrote: > >> This is to inform about a new type of SPAM aggression. >> >> We received from Russia, for months, and redirected them >> automatically to an administrative address for manual inspection.

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-06 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Search engines on DNSBLs: multiRBL.valli.org www.rbls.org On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 15:19, Tom Hendrikx wrote: > Hi, > > Anyone can start a DNSBL and list IP space of people they don't like, as > you surely know. As long as no one uses such a DNSBL to block traffic, > no harm is done. > > The

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-06 Thread Paul Stead
Not the first time I’ve heard of gremlin.ru – found this from a mirror of their FAQ: ---8<--- A: Surely, you have received a bounce message similar to this: 550 Rejected: 192.168.62.14 is listed at work.drbl.example.net This is well enough to investigate, who (and ever why) had listed your host.

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-06 Thread RW
On Wed, 06 Feb 2019 11:55:07 + Rupert Gallagher wrote: > This is to inform about a new type of SPAM aggression. > > We received from Russia, for months, and redirected them > automatically to an administrative address for manual inspection. All > emails were spam with links. From the

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-06 Thread Tom Hendrikx
Hi, Anyone can start a DNSBL and list IP space of people they don't like, as you surely know. As long as no one uses such a DNSBL to block traffic, no harm is done. The interesting part is which "engines" (I guess that you mean antispam software or antispam saas providers) think that such a

Re: New type of SPAM aggression

2019-02-06 Thread Rupert Gallagher
The spammers at gremlin.ru have just created a homepage, with no information on how to delist an IP. Their fake dnsbl is listed as genuine in at least two antispam engines. On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 12:55, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > This is to inform about a new type of SPAM aggression. > > We