RE: Ideas on implementing dynamic addition of components that use AJAX?

2012-11-24 Thread Nick Pratt
Chris

Ive been following this thread with interest - what is the use case that
drives your need to add components dynamically - why can't you just add a
SytemPanel in the panel constructor - is your HTML markup being generated
outside of your Wicket app?

N
On Nov 24, 2012 1:26 AM, Chris Colman chr...@stepaheadsoftware.com
wrote:

 Wow! That was a bit too easy!

 Here's how to override onInitialize to dynamically add components to a
 page that are specified in the markup:

 protected void onInitialize()
 {
 super.onInitialize();

 IMarkupFragment markupElements = getMarkup();

 for (MarkupElement markupElement: markupElements)
 {
 if ( markupElement instanceof ComponentTag )
 {
 ComponentTag tag =
 (ComponentTag)markupElement;
 String tagId = tag.getId();
 System.out.println(Markup Element:  +
 tag.getName() +  ID:  + tagId);

 if ( tagId != null )
 {
 if (
 tagId.equals(systemPanel))
 {
 add(new
 SystemPanel(systemPanel));
 }
 }
 }
 }
 }

 In this example systemPanel represents the ID of a single component
 that should be added dynamically in onInitialize if it is discovered in
 the markup.

 It could be easily enhanced to support multiple dynamic components by
 providing a set of IDs that represent components that should be
 dynamically added and then add them when they are discovered during
 onInitialize.

 This could easily be applied to an application's Panel base class to
 work inside Panels in addition to pages.


 My only concern was that we're adding another iteration process to the
 page construction cycle - iterating through all MarkupElements of the
 markup of a component each time it's onInitialize is called but I guess
 it's not that much of an issue. I was hoping to 'piggy back' the
 processing onto some other process that is already iterating the markup
 elements but I haven't found a suitable spot for that yet.


 -Original Message-
 From: Igor Vaynberg [mailto:igor.vaynb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, 24 November 2012 12:33 PM
 To: users@wicket.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Ideas on implementing dynamic addition of components that
 use
 AJAX?
 
 On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Martin Grigorov
 mgrigo...@apache.org
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
 
  On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Chris Colman
  chr...@stepaheadsoftware.comwrote:
 
  starting with wicket 1.5, however, components are able to resole
 their
  markup earlier in their lifecycle. the reason auto resolved
 components
  are added so late and treated specially was because the markup was
  only available during render.  if you are using 1.5 or 6 you can
 build
  your own mechanism. something that kicks off a page/panel's
  oninitialize(), gets the markup, walks it, and adds any components
 -
 
  Would it be walking the markup as raw XHTML or will parsed element
  objects be available at this point?
 
 
  You have to use #getMarkup() or #getAssociatedMarkup(), so the result
 is
  already parsed (IMarkupFragment).
 
 
 
  If it walks the markup will Wicket also be walking it at some time
 later
  as well, kind of duplicating the markup walking process?
 
 
  Wicket walks the markup of the whole page for every render of the
 page.
  In Ajax requests only the markup of the repainted components is
 traversed.
 
 
 
  maybe ones you mark by special tags in your own namespace. the
 problem
  here is that even if you can find these components you may still
 not
  be able to put them into the right parent because in onInitialize()
  the parent may not yet be added to the container. so perhaps you
 
 
  I think this is not correct. In #onInitialize() you have access to
 the
  markup of the current component and access to the Page instance, i.e.
 you
  have access to all parents between the current component and the Page
  instance.
 
 it is correct. i am not talking about the component on which
 onInitialize() is being called... suppose you have a page that
 implements the mechanism and your markup is like this:
 
 bodydiv wicket:id=foowicket:something//div
 
 what i meant is that inside the page's onInitialize() the component
 foo may not have yet been added so the wicket:something component
 cannot be properly put into it
 
 in this case the page's subclass' onInitialize() may add foo or
 onConfigure() can add foo or some other component if the hierarchy
 is deeper.
 
 -igor
 
 
 
  should have some mechanism that kicks off when
 page#onComponentAdded()
  is called. you can pull the newly added component's markup, see 

RE: Ideas on implementing dynamic addition of components that use AJAX?

2012-11-24 Thread Chris Colman
Chris

Ive been following this thread with interest - what is the use case
that
drives your need to add components dynamically - why can't you just add
a
SytemPanel in the panel constructor - is your HTML markup being
generated
outside of your Wicket app?

Our use case is as follows:

We have a core framework (100% Java) that supports a fully hosted web
site creation and hosting cloud app. The framework includes content
management facilities (rendered by Wicket) plus sophisticated
authentication  authorization (organization context aware), entity
product management, workflow/BPM, the works etc., 

We also build specialized web apps for corporations who want to get to
market ASAP by leveraging our framework. The CMS capabilities of the
framework, rendered by Wicket allow the web devs at the various
corporations to design their own markup.

Wicket's separation of concerns between Java  Markup is perfect for
this and so long as the corporate web devs are careful not to delete the
bindings we place in their HTML (i.e. wicket:id=firstName ... etc.,)
they can continue to edit their HTML pretty much at will.

While hard coding the component hierarchy (Panels etc.,) works for many
simple scenarios we find the external web devs often want to arrange
their HTML in ways that we hadn't thought of. 

e.g. the framework provides a whole lot of small components/modules
designed to fit in a side bar. We don't want to dictate the collection
of modules they must include in the side bar. With a static component
hierarchy a side bar has a static collection of modules.

With our dynamic component hierarchy the web devs can add/remove modules
to the side bar with the simple addition/exclusion of panels via

div wicket:id=socialNetworking/
div wicket:id=latestNews/
Etc.,

And no changes to the Java framework is required.

A recent requirement was for a log in/account panel to be located in
different locations in the page for different clients - we didn't want
to have to assemble different Java component hierarchies for different
clients.

Some clients want a log in/account panel as a separate panel 'somewhere'
and others want it embedded in the main menu.

The dynamic assembling of the component hierarchy makes for much
cleaner, elegant and more maintainable Java code. To stick with a static
model but still support the layout/markup compositions required by many
different clients we would have to build in a hell of a lot of
conditional Java code that would need to become aware of the individual
client for which the page is being assembled - yuck!

I'm not 100% sure that Wicket was designed with this level of
flexibility from dynamic component assembly in mind but that fact that
we can pull this off speaks volumes for the Wicket architects.


N
On Nov 24, 2012 1:26 AM, Chris Colman chr...@stepaheadsoftware.com
wrote:

 Wow! That was a bit too easy!

 Here's how to override onInitialize to dynamically add components to
a
 page that are specified in the markup:

 protected void onInitialize()
 {
 super.onInitialize();

 IMarkupFragment markupElements = getMarkup();

 for (MarkupElement markupElement: markupElements)
 {
 if ( markupElement instanceof ComponentTag )
 {
 ComponentTag tag =
 (ComponentTag)markupElement;
 String tagId = tag.getId();
 System.out.println(Markup Element: 
+
 tag.getName() +  ID:  + tagId);

 if ( tagId != null )
 {
 if (
 tagId.equals(systemPanel))
 {
 add(new
 SystemPanel(systemPanel));
 }
 }
 }
 }
 }

 In this example systemPanel represents the ID of a single component
 that should be added dynamically in onInitialize if it is discovered
in
 the markup.

 It could be easily enhanced to support multiple dynamic components by
 providing a set of IDs that represent components that should be
 dynamically added and then add them when they are discovered during
 onInitialize.

 This could easily be applied to an application's Panel base class to
 work inside Panels in addition to pages.


 My only concern was that we're adding another iteration process to
the
 page construction cycle - iterating through all MarkupElements of the
 markup of a component each time it's onInitialize is called but I
guess
 it's not that much of an issue. I was hoping to 'piggy back' the
 processing onto some other process that is already iterating the
markup
 elements but I haven't found a suitable spot for that yet.


 -Original Message-
 From: Igor Vaynberg [mailto:igor.vaynb...@gmail.com]
 

RE: Ideas on implementing dynamic addition of components that use AJAX?

2012-11-23 Thread Chris Colman
historically the components you add from auto resolvers are added via
the autoAdd() method, not using add(). these components only exist
during render of the page (in detach() phase all auto-added components
are removed). the thinking here is that auto resolved components are
not normal components. because they are resolved so late in the
lifecycle they do not typically implement the entire lifecycle like
onInitialize(), onConfigure(), etc may not necessarily be called. such
components are also not meant to have their own state. because of
these reasons we remove them at the end of the request and readd a new
instance next time the page is rendered. these are basically
transient render-once components.

I understand the historical treatment of components added by a component
resolver but would it work if there was, say, a mechanism whereby we
could set a flag on certain components that are added by a component
resolver to tell Wicket to treat them like first class components
instead of treating them like second class components like it does now?

In other words they would be treated as if they were added explicitly to
their parent in the contructor or onInitialize. i.e. preserved on detach
etc.,
 

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RE: Ideas on implementing dynamic addition of components that use AJAX?

2012-11-23 Thread Chris Colman
I had a thought - is there an interface implemented that provides the
parsing of markup? If there was then I could somehow hook into that or
provide another implementation and avoid double parsing of the markup -
or would that be happening too late in the lifecycle to work?

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Grigorov [mailto:mgrigo...@apache.org]
 Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012 6:47 PM
 To: users@wicket.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Ideas on implementing dynamic addition of components that
use
 AJAX?
 
 Hi,
 
 
 On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Chris Colman
 chr...@stepaheadsoftware.comwrote:
 
  starting with wicket 1.5, however, components are able to resole
their
  markup earlier in their lifecycle. the reason auto resolved
components
  are added so late and treated specially was because the markup was
  only available during render.  if you are using 1.5 or 6 you can
build
  your own mechanism. something that kicks off a page/panel's
  oninitialize(), gets the markup, walks it, and adds any components
-
 
  Would it be walking the markup as raw XHTML or will parsed element
  objects be available at this point?
 
 
 You have to use #getMarkup() or #getAssociatedMarkup(), so the result
is
 already parsed (IMarkupFragment).
 
 
 
  If it walks the markup will Wicket also be walking it at some time
later
  as well, kind of duplicating the markup walking process?
 
 
 Wicket walks the markup of the whole page for every render of the
page.
 In Ajax requests only the markup of the repainted components is
traversed.
 
 
 
  maybe ones you mark by special tags in your own namespace. the
problem
  here is that even if you can find these components you may still
not
  be able to put them into the right parent because in onInitialize()
  the parent may not yet be added to the container. so perhaps you
 
 
 I think this is not correct. In #onInitialize() you have access to the
 markup of the current component and access to the Page instance, i.e.
you
 have access to all parents between the current component and the Page
 instance.
 
 
  should have some mechanism that kicks off when
page#onComponentAdded()
  is called. you can pull the newly added component's markup, see if
it
  has any of these special components defined as a child of the
  components markup, and add them right there. since you are doing
this
  early on these components will have normal lifecycle and should
work
  just like any other component.
  
  hope this helps you get started. keep us in the loop.
 
  Sounds so crazy that it just might work ;)
 
  
  -igor
  
  
  On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Chris Colman
  chr...@stepaheadsoftware.com wrote:
   We've been using Wicket since version 1.3 and have been using the
   IComponentResolver interface with great effect to allow the web
   designers to effectively 'plug and play' with the Wicket
components.
  
   We have multiple layouts using Wicket's 'variation' feature. Each
   designer can build up a different collection of components in any
   particular variation as they like - all without changing the Java
  code.
  
   Normally, without using IComponentResolver, the Java code to
support
   such flexibility would be mind boggingly complex and ugly but
with an
   IComponentResolver we simply have code that's capable of
  instantiating
   any component anywhere - and it works and the resulting code is
   extremely elegant.
  
   While we use lots of AJAX it is restricted to components that are
   explicitly added to components i.e. not added dynamically via the
   component resolver because such components are not able to
contribute
   anything to the head section.
  
   This is starting to become a bit of a problem as we want some of
the
   more advanced components (with AJAX) to take part in the 'plug
and
  play'
   flexibility. We also are starting to get into using Twitter
Bootstrap
   with Wicket and much of the 'funkiness' in some of those
components
   comes from JS that needs to be injected into the header.
  
   Is anyone else using this 'plug and play' capability of Wicket
made
   available via the IComponentResolver interface or is everyone
  sticking
   to the rigid 1 to 1 relationship between markup and the
corresponding
   statically coded Java component hierarchy? (which we found quite
   constricting after a few weeks =] )
  
   I understand that there are some workarounds suggested for
empowering
   AJAX in dynamically added components but they seem to involve
  manually
   parsing markup in the onInitialize method and then explicitly
adding
  any
   required components there - it sounds non ideal and would result
in
  an
   extra parse of all page and panel markups I would think - which
may
   affect performance. Would we be parsing raw XHTML at that stage
or
  would
   a preparsed DOM be available to search through?
  
   What is the fundamental issue with the Wicket architecture that
  prevents
   dynamically resolved components from contributing to the header?
  
   Is 

Re: Ideas on implementing dynamic addition of components that use AJAX?

2012-11-23 Thread Martin Grigorov
See IMarkupFilter implementations.


On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Chris Colman chr...@stepaheadsoftware.com
 wrote:

 I had a thought - is there an interface implemented that provides the
 parsing of markup? If there was then I could somehow hook into that or
 provide another implementation and avoid double parsing of the markup -
 or would that be happening too late in the lifecycle to work?

  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Grigorov [mailto:mgrigo...@apache.org]
  Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012 6:47 PM
  To: users@wicket.apache.org
  Subject: Re: Ideas on implementing dynamic addition of components that
 use
  AJAX?
 
  Hi,
 
 
  On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Chris Colman
  chr...@stepaheadsoftware.comwrote:
 
   starting with wicket 1.5, however, components are able to resole
 their
   markup earlier in their lifecycle. the reason auto resolved
 components
   are added so late and treated specially was because the markup was
   only available during render.  if you are using 1.5 or 6 you can
 build
   your own mechanism. something that kicks off a page/panel's
   oninitialize(), gets the markup, walks it, and adds any components
 -
  
   Would it be walking the markup as raw XHTML or will parsed element
   objects be available at this point?
  
 
  You have to use #getMarkup() or #getAssociatedMarkup(), so the result
 is
  already parsed (IMarkupFragment).
 
 
  
   If it walks the markup will Wicket also be walking it at some time
 later
   as well, kind of duplicating the markup walking process?
  
 
  Wicket walks the markup of the whole page for every render of the
 page.
  In Ajax requests only the markup of the repainted components is
 traversed.
 
 
  
   maybe ones you mark by special tags in your own namespace. the
 problem
   here is that even if you can find these components you may still
 not
   be able to put them into the right parent because in onInitialize()
   the parent may not yet be added to the container. so perhaps you
  
 
  I think this is not correct. In #onInitialize() you have access to the
  markup of the current component and access to the Page instance, i.e.
 you
  have access to all parents between the current component and the Page
  instance.
 
 
   should have some mechanism that kicks off when
 page#onComponentAdded()
   is called. you can pull the newly added component's markup, see if
 it
   has any of these special components defined as a child of the
   components markup, and add them right there. since you are doing
 this
   early on these components will have normal lifecycle and should
 work
   just like any other component.
   
   hope this helps you get started. keep us in the loop.
  
   Sounds so crazy that it just might work ;)
  
   
   -igor
   
   
   On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Chris Colman
   chr...@stepaheadsoftware.com wrote:
We've been using Wicket since version 1.3 and have been using the
IComponentResolver interface with great effect to allow the web
designers to effectively 'plug and play' with the Wicket
 components.
   
We have multiple layouts using Wicket's 'variation' feature. Each
designer can build up a different collection of components in any
particular variation as they like - all without changing the Java
   code.
   
Normally, without using IComponentResolver, the Java code to
 support
such flexibility would be mind boggingly complex and ugly but
 with an
IComponentResolver we simply have code that's capable of
   instantiating
any component anywhere - and it works and the resulting code is
extremely elegant.
   
While we use lots of AJAX it is restricted to components that are
explicitly added to components i.e. not added dynamically via the
component resolver because such components are not able to
 contribute
anything to the head section.
   
This is starting to become a bit of a problem as we want some of
 the
more advanced components (with AJAX) to take part in the 'plug
 and
   play'
flexibility. We also are starting to get into using Twitter
 Bootstrap
with Wicket and much of the 'funkiness' in some of those
 components
comes from JS that needs to be injected into the header.
   
Is anyone else using this 'plug and play' capability of Wicket
 made
available via the IComponentResolver interface or is everyone
   sticking
to the rigid 1 to 1 relationship between markup and the
 corresponding
statically coded Java component hierarchy? (which we found quite
constricting after a few weeks =] )
   
I understand that there are some workarounds suggested for
 empowering
AJAX in dynamically added components but they seem to involve
   manually
parsing markup in the onInitialize method and then explicitly
 adding
   any
required components there - it sounds non ideal and would result
 in
   an
extra parse of all page and panel markups I would think - which
 may
affect performance. Would we 

RE: Ideas on implementing dynamic addition of components that use AJAX?

2012-11-23 Thread Chris Colman
Wow! That was a bit too easy!

Here's how to override onInitialize to dynamically add components to a
page that are specified in the markup:

protected void onInitialize()
{
super.onInitialize();

IMarkupFragment markupElements = getMarkup();

for (MarkupElement markupElement: markupElements)
{
if ( markupElement instanceof ComponentTag )
{
ComponentTag tag =
(ComponentTag)markupElement;
String tagId = tag.getId();
System.out.println(Markup Element:  +
tag.getName() +  ID:  + tagId);

if ( tagId != null )
{
if (
tagId.equals(systemPanel))
{
add(new
SystemPanel(systemPanel));
}
}
}
}
}

In this example systemPanel represents the ID of a single component
that should be added dynamically in onInitialize if it is discovered in
the markup.

It could be easily enhanced to support multiple dynamic components by
providing a set of IDs that represent components that should be
dynamically added and then add them when they are discovered during
onInitialize.

This could easily be applied to an application's Panel base class to
work inside Panels in addition to pages.


My only concern was that we're adding another iteration process to the
page construction cycle - iterating through all MarkupElements of the
markup of a component each time it's onInitialize is called but I guess
it's not that much of an issue. I was hoping to 'piggy back' the
processing onto some other process that is already iterating the markup
elements but I haven't found a suitable spot for that yet.


-Original Message-
From: Igor Vaynberg [mailto:igor.vaynb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 24 November 2012 12:33 PM
To: users@wicket.apache.org
Subject: Re: Ideas on implementing dynamic addition of components that
use
AJAX?

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Martin Grigorov
mgrigo...@apache.org
wrote:
 Hi,


 On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Chris Colman
 chr...@stepaheadsoftware.comwrote:

 starting with wicket 1.5, however, components are able to resole
their
 markup earlier in their lifecycle. the reason auto resolved
components
 are added so late and treated specially was because the markup was
 only available during render.  if you are using 1.5 or 6 you can
build
 your own mechanism. something that kicks off a page/panel's
 oninitialize(), gets the markup, walks it, and adds any components
-

 Would it be walking the markup as raw XHTML or will parsed element
 objects be available at this point?


 You have to use #getMarkup() or #getAssociatedMarkup(), so the result
is
 already parsed (IMarkupFragment).



 If it walks the markup will Wicket also be walking it at some time
later
 as well, kind of duplicating the markup walking process?


 Wicket walks the markup of the whole page for every render of the
page.
 In Ajax requests only the markup of the repainted components is
traversed.



 maybe ones you mark by special tags in your own namespace. the
problem
 here is that even if you can find these components you may still
not
 be able to put them into the right parent because in onInitialize()
 the parent may not yet be added to the container. so perhaps you


 I think this is not correct. In #onInitialize() you have access to
the
 markup of the current component and access to the Page instance, i.e.
you
 have access to all parents between the current component and the Page
 instance.

it is correct. i am not talking about the component on which
onInitialize() is being called... suppose you have a page that
implements the mechanism and your markup is like this:

bodydiv wicket:id=foowicket:something//div

what i meant is that inside the page's onInitialize() the component
foo may not have yet been added so the wicket:something component
cannot be properly put into it

in this case the page's subclass' onInitialize() may add foo or
onConfigure() can add foo or some other component if the hierarchy
is deeper.

-igor



 should have some mechanism that kicks off when
page#onComponentAdded()
 is called. you can pull the newly added component's markup, see if
it
 has any of these special components defined as a child of the
 components markup, and add them right there. since you are doing
this
 early on these components will have normal lifecycle and should
work
 just like any other component.
 
 hope this helps you get started. keep us in the loop.

 Sounds so crazy that it just might work ;)

 
 -igor
 
 
 On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Chris Colman
 chr...@stepaheadsoftware.com wrote:
  We've been using 

Re: Ideas on implementing dynamic addition of components that use AJAX?

2012-11-22 Thread Igor Vaynberg
historically the components you add from auto resolvers are added via
the autoAdd() method, not using add(). these components only exist
during render of the page (in detach() phase all auto-added components
are removed). the thinking here is that auto resolved components are
not normal components. because they are resolved so late in the
lifecycle they do not typically implement the entire lifecycle like
onInitialize(), onConfigure(), etc may not necessarily be called. such
components are also not meant to have their own state. because of
these reasons we remove them at the end of the request and readd a new
instance next time the page is rendered. these are basically
transient render-once components.

starting with wicket 1.5, however, components are able to resole their
markup earlier in their lifecycle. the reason auto resolved components
are added so late and treated specially was because the markup was
only available during render.  if you are using 1.5 or 6 you can build
your own mechanism. something that kicks off a page/panel's
oninitialize(), gets the markup, walks it, and adds any components -
maybe ones you mark by special tags in your own namespace. the problem
here is that even if you can find these components you may still not
be able to put them into the right parent because in onInitialize()
the parent may not yet be added to the container. so perhaps you
should have some mechanism that kicks off when page#onComponentAdded()
is called. you can pull the newly added component's markup, see if it
has any of these special components defined as a child of the
components markup, and add them right there. since you are doing this
early on these components will have normal lifecycle and should work
just like any other component.

hope this helps you get started. keep us in the loop.

-igor


On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Chris Colman
chr...@stepaheadsoftware.com wrote:
 We've been using Wicket since version 1.3 and have been using the
 IComponentResolver interface with great effect to allow the web
 designers to effectively 'plug and play' with the Wicket components.

 We have multiple layouts using Wicket's 'variation' feature. Each
 designer can build up a different collection of components in any
 particular variation as they like - all without changing the Java code.

 Normally, without using IComponentResolver, the Java code to support
 such flexibility would be mind boggingly complex and ugly but with an
 IComponentResolver we simply have code that's capable of instantiating
 any component anywhere - and it works and the resulting code is
 extremely elegant.

 While we use lots of AJAX it is restricted to components that are
 explicitly added to components i.e. not added dynamically via the
 component resolver because such components are not able to contribute
 anything to the head section.

 This is starting to become a bit of a problem as we want some of the
 more advanced components (with AJAX) to take part in the 'plug and play'
 flexibility. We also are starting to get into using Twitter Bootstrap
 with Wicket and much of the 'funkiness' in some of those components
 comes from JS that needs to be injected into the header.

 Is anyone else using this 'plug and play' capability of Wicket made
 available via the IComponentResolver interface or is everyone sticking
 to the rigid 1 to 1 relationship between markup and the corresponding
 statically coded Java component hierarchy? (which we found quite
 constricting after a few weeks =] )

 I understand that there are some workarounds suggested for empowering
 AJAX in dynamically added components but they seem to involve manually
 parsing markup in the onInitialize method and then explicitly adding any
 required components there - it sounds non ideal and would result in an
 extra parse of all page and panel markups I would think - which may
 affect performance. Would we be parsing raw XHTML at that stage or would
 a preparsed DOM be available to search through?

 What is the fundamental issue with the Wicket architecture that prevents
 dynamically resolved components from contributing to the header?

 Is one of the causes the fact that by the time the ComponentResolver is
 being called the header has already been rendered to the response stream
 and so once body rendering commences no more header injection is
 possible?

 If so, that could probably (thinking out aloud without an in depth
 knowledge of Wicket's internals =] ) be solved by splitting the
 rendering into two streams: header injection goes to current output
 stream while body rendering goes to a temporary 'body' stream. When the
 page render is complete the output of the body is then appended to the
 current stream, after the header rendering. This would allow header
 injection to continue during processing of the body markup because both
 are not being sequentially output to the same stream.

 There was mention of another issue - something about auto added
 (component 

Re: Ideas on implementing dynamic addition of components that use AJAX?

2012-11-22 Thread Sven Meier

The markup is parsed already, see Component#getMarkup().

Sven

On 11/23/2012 08:33 AM, Chris Colman wrote:

starting with wicket 1.5, however, components are able to resole their
markup earlier in their lifecycle. the reason auto resolved components
are added so late and treated specially was because the markup was
only available during render.  if you are using 1.5 or 6 you can build
your own mechanism. something that kicks off a page/panel's
oninitialize(), gets the markup, walks it, and adds any components -

Would it be walking the markup as raw XHTML or will parsed element
objects be available at this point?

If it walks the markup will Wicket also be walking it at some time later
as well, kind of duplicating the markup walking process?


maybe ones you mark by special tags in your own namespace. the problem
here is that even if you can find these components you may still not
be able to put them into the right parent because in onInitialize()
the parent may not yet be added to the container. so perhaps you
should have some mechanism that kicks off when page#onComponentAdded()
is called. you can pull the newly added component's markup, see if it
has any of these special components defined as a child of the
components markup, and add them right there. since you are doing this
early on these components will have normal lifecycle and should work
just like any other component.

hope this helps you get started. keep us in the loop.

Sounds so crazy that it just might work ;)


-igor


On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Chris Colman
chr...@stepaheadsoftware.com wrote:

We've been using Wicket since version 1.3 and have been using the
IComponentResolver interface with great effect to allow the web
designers to effectively 'plug and play' with the Wicket components.

We have multiple layouts using Wicket's 'variation' feature. Each
designer can build up a different collection of components in any
particular variation as they like - all without changing the Java

code.

Normally, without using IComponentResolver, the Java code to support
such flexibility would be mind boggingly complex and ugly but with an
IComponentResolver we simply have code that's capable of

instantiating

any component anywhere - and it works and the resulting code is
extremely elegant.

While we use lots of AJAX it is restricted to components that are
explicitly added to components i.e. not added dynamically via the
component resolver because such components are not able to contribute
anything to the head section.

This is starting to become a bit of a problem as we want some of the
more advanced components (with AJAX) to take part in the 'plug and

play'

flexibility. We also are starting to get into using Twitter Bootstrap
with Wicket and much of the 'funkiness' in some of those components
comes from JS that needs to be injected into the header.

Is anyone else using this 'plug and play' capability of Wicket made
available via the IComponentResolver interface or is everyone

sticking

to the rigid 1 to 1 relationship between markup and the corresponding
statically coded Java component hierarchy? (which we found quite
constricting after a few weeks =] )

I understand that there are some workarounds suggested for empowering
AJAX in dynamically added components but they seem to involve

manually

parsing markup in the onInitialize method and then explicitly adding

any

required components there - it sounds non ideal and would result in

an

extra parse of all page and panel markups I would think - which may
affect performance. Would we be parsing raw XHTML at that stage or

would

a preparsed DOM be available to search through?

What is the fundamental issue with the Wicket architecture that

prevents

dynamically resolved components from contributing to the header?

Is one of the causes the fact that by the time the ComponentResolver

is

being called the header has already been rendered to the response

stream

and so once body rendering commences no more header injection is
possible?

If so, that could probably (thinking out aloud without an in depth
knowledge of Wicket's internals =] ) be solved by splitting the
rendering into two streams: header injection goes to current output
stream while body rendering goes to a temporary 'body' stream. When

the

page render is complete the output of the body is then appended to

the

current stream, after the header rendering. This would allow header
injection to continue during processing of the body markup because

both

are not being sequentially output to the same stream.

There was mention of another issue - something about auto added
(component resolver) objects being removed after rendering so they

are

not there when AJAX actions occur. I don't fully understand the

details

of this or why it is necessary. Maybe this devs could offer more

advice

on this.

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Re: Ideas on implementing dynamic addition of components that use AJAX?

2012-11-22 Thread Martin Grigorov
Hi,


On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Chris Colman
chr...@stepaheadsoftware.comwrote:

 starting with wicket 1.5, however, components are able to resole their
 markup earlier in their lifecycle. the reason auto resolved components
 are added so late and treated specially was because the markup was
 only available during render.  if you are using 1.5 or 6 you can build
 your own mechanism. something that kicks off a page/panel's
 oninitialize(), gets the markup, walks it, and adds any components -

 Would it be walking the markup as raw XHTML or will parsed element
 objects be available at this point?


You have to use #getMarkup() or #getAssociatedMarkup(), so the result is
already parsed (IMarkupFragment).



 If it walks the markup will Wicket also be walking it at some time later
 as well, kind of duplicating the markup walking process?


Wicket walks the markup of the whole page for every render of the page.
In Ajax requests only the markup of the repainted components is traversed.



 maybe ones you mark by special tags in your own namespace. the problem
 here is that even if you can find these components you may still not
 be able to put them into the right parent because in onInitialize()
 the parent may not yet be added to the container. so perhaps you


I think this is not correct. In #onInitialize() you have access to the
markup of the current component and access to the Page instance, i.e. you
have access to all parents between the current component and the Page
instance.


 should have some mechanism that kicks off when page#onComponentAdded()
 is called. you can pull the newly added component's markup, see if it
 has any of these special components defined as a child of the
 components markup, and add them right there. since you are doing this
 early on these components will have normal lifecycle and should work
 just like any other component.
 
 hope this helps you get started. keep us in the loop.

 Sounds so crazy that it just might work ;)

 
 -igor
 
 
 On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Chris Colman
 chr...@stepaheadsoftware.com wrote:
  We've been using Wicket since version 1.3 and have been using the
  IComponentResolver interface with great effect to allow the web
  designers to effectively 'plug and play' with the Wicket components.
 
  We have multiple layouts using Wicket's 'variation' feature. Each
  designer can build up a different collection of components in any
  particular variation as they like - all without changing the Java
 code.
 
  Normally, without using IComponentResolver, the Java code to support
  such flexibility would be mind boggingly complex and ugly but with an
  IComponentResolver we simply have code that's capable of
 instantiating
  any component anywhere - and it works and the resulting code is
  extremely elegant.
 
  While we use lots of AJAX it is restricted to components that are
  explicitly added to components i.e. not added dynamically via the
  component resolver because such components are not able to contribute
  anything to the head section.
 
  This is starting to become a bit of a problem as we want some of the
  more advanced components (with AJAX) to take part in the 'plug and
 play'
  flexibility. We also are starting to get into using Twitter Bootstrap
  with Wicket and much of the 'funkiness' in some of those components
  comes from JS that needs to be injected into the header.
 
  Is anyone else using this 'plug and play' capability of Wicket made
  available via the IComponentResolver interface or is everyone
 sticking
  to the rigid 1 to 1 relationship between markup and the corresponding
  statically coded Java component hierarchy? (which we found quite
  constricting after a few weeks =] )
 
  I understand that there are some workarounds suggested for empowering
  AJAX in dynamically added components but they seem to involve
 manually
  parsing markup in the onInitialize method and then explicitly adding
 any
  required components there - it sounds non ideal and would result in
 an
  extra parse of all page and panel markups I would think - which may
  affect performance. Would we be parsing raw XHTML at that stage or
 would
  a preparsed DOM be available to search through?
 
  What is the fundamental issue with the Wicket architecture that
 prevents
  dynamically resolved components from contributing to the header?
 
  Is one of the causes the fact that by the time the ComponentResolver
 is
  being called the header has already been rendered to the response
 stream
  and so once body rendering commences no more header injection is
  possible?
 
  If so, that could probably (thinking out aloud without an in depth
  knowledge of Wicket's internals =] ) be solved by splitting the
  rendering into two streams: header injection goes to current output
  stream while body rendering goes to a temporary 'body' stream. When
 the
  page render is complete the output of the body is then appended to
 the
  current stream, after the header