Re: Need suggestion on minimizing session usage in wicket web application
OkkI think for large user base, I should go for stateless pages. But the problem is that my app is entirely ajax based. So, how would I use ajax behavior for stateless components. As far as I have read, ajax requires components to be stateful (/http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/stateless-ajax-behavior-td1933611.html/). Will it be possible for me to use same ajax behavior like updating panel, etc on stateless pages? -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Need-suggestion-on-minimizing-session-usage-in-wicket-web-application-tp4650956p4650976.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Need suggestion on minimizing session usage in wicket web application
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:37 PM, robmcguinness robert.mcguinness@gmail.com wrote: food for though in 6.0 branch getFrameworkSettings().setSerializer(new DeflatedJavaSerializer(getApplicationKey())); This wont help for the session size. The http session keeps only the last used page instance. The serialized page (the bytes) are stored in disk store unless you use HttpSessionDataStore (for Google AppEngine for example). Read https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WICKET/Page+Storage -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Need-suggestion-on-minimizing-session-usage-in-wicket-web-application-tp4650956p4650973.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Need suggestion on minimizing session usage in wicket web application
Actually I am planning to host the app in Google application engine. One
thing I am not able to understand, getStatelessHint() if applied in the
constructor of a page should return whether that page is stateless or not.
So, in my page which is full of ajax and statefull components, why it is
printing true? I am simply printing...
public Page(PageParameters pageParameters)(
final PageParameters pageParameters, UserDomain
userDomain,
UserDomain loggedInUserDomain) {
// many statefull components added
*System.out.println(this.getStatelessHint());* returning true..
}
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Re: Need suggestion on minimizing session usage in wicket web application
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 5:11 PM, kshitiz k.agarw...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually I am planning to host the app in Google application engine. One
thing I am not able to understand, getStatelessHint() if applied in the
constructor of a page should return whether that page is stateless or not.
So, in my page which is full of ajax and statefull components, why it is
printing true? I am simply printing...
public Page(PageParameters pageParameters)(
final PageParameters pageParameters, UserDomain
userDomain,
UserDomain loggedInUserDomain) {
// many statefull components added
*System.out.println(this.getStatelessHint());* returning true..
use #isPageStateless() instead.
}
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Re: Need suggestion on minimizing session usage in wicket web application
Ya..that worked...and for each component...I think statelessChecker is there. But I am not able to figure out how to use it for a component? I read you post http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Why-is-stateless-from-making-my-page-stateful-td3662059.html http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Why-is-stateless-from-making-my-page-stateful-td3662059.html But not able to get... -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Need-suggestion-on-minimizing-session-usage-in-wicket-web-application-tp4650956p4650987.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Need suggestion on minimizing session usage in wicket web application
Do you use Wicket 6? If so, the latest snapshot includes an enhanced page view in the page inspector of the Wicket debug bar. This page view can be filtered to show only stateful components and behaviors. If you're on Wicket 1.5, check out https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-4244. stateful_page_inspector.patch has the version I submitted for 1.5 in November. You can have a look at the screenshots in the issue to see what it does. On 03/08/2012 10:44 AM, kshitiz wrote: Ya..that worked...and for each component...I think statelessChecker is there. But I am not able to figure out how to use it for a component? I read you post http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Why-is-stateless-from-making-my-page-stateful-td3662059.html http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Why-is-stateless-from-making-my-page-stateful-td3662059.html But not able to get... -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Need-suggestion-on-minimizing-session-usage-in-wicket-web-application-tp4650956p4650987.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Need suggestion on minimizing session usage in wicket web application
yes, using stateless pages when it's possible will definitely reduce your session size. Wicket offers a stateless version for those components which by default have a stateful nature, like forms and links. As general rule you can implement a stateless page when the page doesn't need to keep its internal state between two consecutive requests. For more information on stateless pages see live examples at http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/stateless/ Hi, I need some suggestions. In my wicket application (in development phase), I have used normal forms and links. While going through the concept of stateless pages and forms, I am confused about converting the forms and components to stateless. Will it really minimize session usage in the system. I need to minimize it as i wont be having much server space initially. -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Need-suggestion-on-minimizing-session-usage-in-wicket-web-application-tp4650956.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Need suggestion on minimizing session usage in wicket web application
Hi, You can read the following email thread for insight: http://wicket-users.markmail.org/thread/6qqc4pxt77mulpmt Also have a look at this: http://www.small-improvements.com/blog/technical/tuning-wicket-session-size These links talk about session size in general, not only about stateless components. On 02/08/2012 9:25 AM, kshitiz wrote: Hi, I need some suggestions. In my wicket application (in development phase), I have used normal forms and links. While going through the concept of stateless pages and forms, I am confused about converting the forms and components to stateless. Will it really minimize session usage in the system. I need to minimize it as i wont be having much server space initially. -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Need-suggestion-on-minimizing-session-usage-in-wicket-web-application-tp4650956.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Need suggestion on minimizing session usage in wicket web application
Thanks for the links. One thing that I want to ask that do yo think we should use LoadableDetachable models to minimize session usage? Like for every thing examples labels, links, dropdowns, etc. -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Need-suggestion-on-minimizing-session-usage-in-wicket-web-application-tp4650956p4650963.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Need suggestion on minimizing session usage in wicket web application
I would say it depends. Generally, it should help to use detachable models, but for very small objects (like static strings), it's won't give a big gain. Besides memory gains, detachable models also reload their data each request which ensures non-stale objects. On 02/08/2012 11:28 AM, kshitiz wrote: Thanks for the links. One thing that I want to ask that do yo think we should use LoadableDetachable models to minimize session usage? Like for every thing examples labels, links, dropdowns, etc. -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Need-suggestion-on-minimizing-session-usage-in-wicket-web-application-tp4650956p4650963.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
