Re: Scripting language
It depends, what do you want to do. If you want to develop your site in some scripting language, then use php or rails instead. I have seen groovy in some projects build scripts. Sigmar On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:10 PM, james yong i_yon...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Hi all, Can anyone recommends a scripting language that can be used with Wicket for productivity? Regards, James -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Scripting-language-tp2402957p2402957.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Scripting language
You might want to try Scala/Wicket. Do some googling for Scala AND Wicket. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:10 AM, james yong i_yon...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Hi all, Can anyone recommends a scripting language that can be used with Wicket for productivity? Regards, James -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Scripting-language-tp2402957p2402957.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Scripting language
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:31 PM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote: You might want to try Scala/Wicket. Do some googling for Scala AND Wicket. Also, there is a Groovy + Wicket version of the hotel booking demo app here (SVN): http://perfbench.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/perfbench/grocket-jpa/ Done as an experiment a long time ago though, in a big hurry. Personally, I didn't like the combination of Groovy + Wicket, for reasons mentioned in the Scala + Wicket StackOverflow link below. Others may have different opinions though. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2104724/your-experience-with-scalawicket - Peter. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:10 AM, james yong i_yon...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Hi all, Can anyone recommends a scripting language that can be used with Wicket for productivity? Regards, James -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Scripting-language-tp2402957p2402957.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Scripting language
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Peter Thomas ptrtho...@gmail.com wrote: Done as an experiment a long time ago though, in a big hurry. Personally, I didn't like the combination of Groovy + Wicket, for reasons mentioned in the Scala + Wicket StackOverflow link below. Others may have different opinions though. So, you would recommend using Scala as opposed to Groovy, then? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Scripting language
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:08 PM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Peter Thomas ptrtho...@gmail.com wrote: Done as an experiment a long time ago though, in a big hurry. Personally, I didn't like the combination of Groovy + Wicket, for reasons mentioned in the Scala + Wicket StackOverflow link below. Others may have different opinions though. So, you would recommend using Scala as opposed to Groovy, then? Yes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Scripting language
It depends how much time you want to take to learn the language. With Groovy you don't have to know anything but Java to start with and can learn more about the language as needed or interested. Scala is nothing like Java or any other language. The issues Groovy had with inner classes almost all been fixed since the Stack Overflow posting so as long as your using 1.7.x you should be good there. Whats better is going to come down to what your comfortable with, willing to learn, and if squeezing a couple milliseconds of performance matters or not. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:38 AM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.comwrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Peter Thomas ptrtho...@gmail.com wrote: Done as an experiment a long time ago though, in a big hurry. Personally, I didn't like the combination of Groovy + Wicket, for reasons mentioned in the Scala + Wicket StackOverflow link below. Others may have different opinions though. So, you would recommend using Scala as opposed to Groovy, then? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Scripting language
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Ben Tilford bentilf...@gmail.com wrote: Whats better is going to come down to what your comfortable with, willing to learn, and if squeezing a couple milliseconds of performance matters or not. That's one of the key points I think folks need to think about when it comes to considering Groovy for something like this. It has had a bad reputation for being slow (so did Java back in the day). Scala is pretty fast from what I understand. Although Scala, as you pointed out, has a higher learning curve. It does seem to be a more cerebral programming language. When I read the Scala book, I was left scratching my head on some of the topics. I've been studying new programming languages a lot lately and Scala is definitely one of the ones I like, but I can see where it would be difficult to grasp for the less-experienced folks. Some of the others seem a bit more intuitive. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Scripting language
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Ben Tilford bentilf...@gmail.com wrote: It depends how much time you want to take to learn the language. With Groovy you don't have to know anything but Java to start with and can learn more about the language as needed or interested. Scala is nothing like Java or any other language. The issues Groovy had with inner classes almost all been fixed since the Stack Overflow posting so as long as your using 1.7.x you should be good there. I actually used 1.7.0 the moment it was released because until then inner classes in Groovy were not supported at all. You can look at the code / pom.xml and see for yourself. I didn't bother trying any later versions though. - Peter Whats better is going to come down to what your comfortable with, willing to learn, and if squeezing a couple milliseconds of performance matters or not. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:38 AM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.comwrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Peter Thomas ptrtho...@gmail.com wrote: Done as an experiment a long time ago though, in a big hurry. Personally, I didn't like the combination of Groovy + Wicket, for reasons mentioned in the Scala + Wicket StackOverflow link below. Others may have different opinions though. So, you would recommend using Scala as opposed to Groovy, then? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Scripting language
Just curious: what makes you think that using a scripting language makes you more productive than using Java? Do you mean productivity in the first two days or in the long run? Tom On 01.09.2010 13:10, james yong wrote: Hi all, Can anyone recommends a scripting language that can be used with Wicket for productivity? Regards, James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
RE: Scripting language
I would like to point out that Scala is far from what one might consider a dynamic scripting language. I haven't tried it, but you may see if Clojure works with Wicket. That has some of the attributes where you can embed clojure into a java application and change code on the fly. Scala would require that you code be recompiled. -Original Message- From: Thomas Singer [mailto:wic...@regnis.de] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:34 PM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: Scripting language Just curious: what makes you think that using a scripting language makes you more productive than using Java? Do you mean productivity in the first two days or in the long run? Tom On 01.09.2010 13:10, james yong wrote: Hi all, Can anyone recommends a scripting language that can be used with Wicket for productivity? Regards, James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
RE: Scripting language
Try scala. Some people tried and it work. -original message- Subject: Re: Scripting language From: Sigmar Muuga meedi...@gmail.com Date: 01/09/2010 10:08 PM It depends, what do you want to do. If you want to develop your site in some scripting language, then use php or rails instead. I have seen groovy in some projects build scripts. Sigmar On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:10 PM, james yong i_yon...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Hi all, Can anyone recommends a scripting language that can be used with Wicket for productivity? Regards, James -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Scripting-language-tp2402957p2402957.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org