Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread Matej Knopp
I don't think it really is Wicket critique. It's more critique of Maven.

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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread Uwe Schäfer

Yiannis Mavroukakis schrieb:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/116978/can-anyone-recommend-a-simple-java-web-app-framework 


complicated dir structure? countless xml files? come on...

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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread Yiannis Mavroukakis
I disagree but even if that where the case, it's still comes across as a 
minus on the framework..


Matej Knopp wrote:

I don't think it really is Wicket critique. It's more critique of Maven.

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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread Eelco Hillenius
The author of the question actually did a project in Wicket (thoof),
so he must be for even more improvements :-)

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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread Chris Stein
I tried many different frameworks in the past and Wicket was probably one of 
the easiest to set up and integrate into Eclipse. I have to admit that the 
learning curve is quite steep here. It helped me being familiar with Eclipse 
and the Tomcat integration to get things going quickly. Besides: I don't use 
Maven.



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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread Yiannis Mavroukakis

Likewise, I think that secretly I'm a bit of a Maven refusenik :-P

Chris Stein wrote:

I tried many different frameworks in the past and Wicket was probably one of 
the easiest to set up and integrate into Eclipse. I have to admit that the 
learning curve is quite steep here. It helped me being familiar with Eclipse 
and the Tomcat integration to get things going quickly. Besides: I don't use 
Maven.



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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread Martijn Dashorst
http://herebebeasties.com/static/Wicket-QuickStart.avi

shows that setting up maven, wicket and eclipse is really easy
(provided you are not limited by a proxy)

Martijn

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 I tried many different frameworks in the past and Wicket was probably one of 
 the easiest to set up and integrate into Eclipse. I have to admit that the 
 learning curve is quite steep here. It helped me being familiar with Eclipse 
 and the Tomcat integration to get things going quickly. Besides: I don't use 
 Maven.



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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread superoverdrive
The only thing that is missing in this video is a hibernate integration...to 
read/save data to a database.

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 http://herebebeasties.com/static/Wicket-QuickStart.avi
 
 shows that setting up maven, wicket and eclipse is really easy
 (provided you are not limited by a proxy)
 
 Martijn
 
 On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Chris Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I tried many different frameworks in the past and Wicket was probably
 one of the easiest to set up and integrate into Eclipse. I have to admit that
 the learning curve is quite steep here. It helped me being familiar with
 Eclipse and the Tomcat integration to get things going quickly. Besides: I
 don't use Maven.
 
 
 
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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread James Carman
Not everyone uses hibernate.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:14 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The only thing that is missing in this video is a hibernate integration...to 
 read/save data to a database.

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 Datum: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:50:20 +0200
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 http://herebebeasties.com/static/Wicket-QuickStart.avi

 shows that setting up maven, wicket and eclipse is really easy
 (provided you are not limited by a proxy)

 Martijn

 On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Chris Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I tried many different frameworks in the past and Wicket was probably
 one of the easiest to set up and integrate into Eclipse. I have to admit that
 the learning curve is quite steep here. It helped me being familiar with
 Eclipse and the Tomcat integration to get things going quickly. Besides: I
 don't use Maven.
 
 
 
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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread Yiannis Mavroukakis

Iolite is your friend :-)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The only thing that is missing in this video is a hibernate integration...to 
read/save data to a database.

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http://herebebeasties.com/static/Wicket-QuickStart.avi

shows that setting up maven, wicket and eclipse is really easy
(provided you are not limited by a proxy)

Martijn

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Chris Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


I tried many different frameworks in the past and Wicket was probably
  

one of the easiest to set up and integrate into Eclipse. I have to admit that
the learning curve is quite steep here. It helped me being familiar with
Eclipse and the Tomcat integration to get things going quickly. Besides: I
don't use Maven.



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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread James Carman
And, hopefully wicketopia in the near future.  It's still under
development (by both me and Nino)

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Yiannis Mavroukakis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Iolite is your friend :-)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The only thing that is missing in this video is a hibernate
 integration...to read/save data to a database.

  Original-Nachricht 


 Datum: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:50:20 +0200
 Von: Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 An: users@wicket.apache.org
 Betreff: Re: Wicket critique




 http://herebebeasties.com/static/Wicket-QuickStart.avi

 shows that setting up maven, wicket and eclipse is really easy
 (provided you are not limited by a proxy)

 Martijn

 On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Chris Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


 I tried many different frameworks in the past and Wicket was probably


 one of the easiest to set up and integrate into Eclipse. I have to admit
 that
 the learning curve is quite steep here. It helped me being familiar with
 Eclipse and the Tomcat integration to get things going quickly. Besides:
 I
 don't use Maven.


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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread James Carman
Help is definitely welcome!

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Yiannis Mavroukakis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cool, need any spare hands/brains?

 James Carman wrote:

 And, hopefully wicketopia in the near future.  It's still under
 development (by both me and Nino)

 On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Yiannis Mavroukakis
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Iolite is your friend :-)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 The only thing that is missing in this video is a hibernate
 integration...to read/save data to a database.

  Original-Nachricht 



 Datum: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:50:20 +0200
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 An: users@wicket.apache.org
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 http://herebebeasties.com/static/Wicket-QuickStart.avi

 shows that setting up maven, wicket and eclipse is really easy
 (provided you are not limited by a proxy)

 Martijn

 On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Chris Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:



 I tried many different frameworks in the past and Wicket was probably



 one of the easiest to set up and integrate into Eclipse. I have to
 admit
 that
 the learning curve is quite steep here. It helped me being familiar
 with
 Eclipse and the Tomcat integration to get things going quickly.
 Besides:
 I
 don't use Maven.



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 To: users@wicket.apache.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:44:40 AM
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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread superoverdrive
That's the problem - the more options there are, the more flexible it is, but 
the more freedom you have.
The more freedom you have, the more different Wicket projects are structures 
and the less re-usable the code of various programmers comes.

Maybe Wicket should define one type of database integration as the default 
case and make this part of the empty getting-started project.

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 Not everyone uses hibernate.
 
 On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:14 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The only thing that is missing in this video is a hibernate
 integration...to read/save data to a database.
 
   Original-Nachricht 
  Datum: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:50:20 +0200
  Von: Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  An: users@wicket.apache.org
  Betreff: Re: Wicket critique
 
  http://herebebeasties.com/static/Wicket-QuickStart.avi
 
  shows that setting up maven, wicket and eclipse is really easy
  (provided you are not limited by a proxy)
 
  Martijn
 
  On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Chris Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   I tried many different frameworks in the past and Wicket was probably
  one of the easiest to set up and integrate into Eclipse. I have to
 admit that
  the learning curve is quite steep here. It helped me being familiar
 with
  Eclipse and the Tomcat integration to get things going quickly.
 Besides: I
  don't use Maven.
  
  
  
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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread Yiannis Mavroukakis

Cool, need any spare hands/brains?

James Carman wrote:

And, hopefully wicketopia in the near future.  It's still under
development (by both me and Nino)

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Yiannis Mavroukakis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Iolite is your friend :-)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The only thing that is missing in this video is a hibernate
integration...to read/save data to a database.

 Original-Nachricht 

  

Datum: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:50:20 +0200
Von: Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: users@wicket.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Wicket critique


  

http://herebebeasties.com/static/Wicket-QuickStart.avi

shows that setting up maven, wicket and eclipse is really easy
(provided you are not limited by a proxy)

Martijn

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Chris Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



I tried many different frameworks in the past and Wicket was probably

  

one of the easiest to set up and integrate into Eclipse. I have to admit
that
the learning curve is quite steep here. It helped me being familiar with
Eclipse and the Tomcat integration to get things going quickly. Besides:
I
don't use Maven.



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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread superoverdrive
This one:

http://wicketstuff.org/confluence/display/STUFFWIKI/Wicket-Iolite 

?

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 Iolite is your friend :-)
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The only thing that is missing in this video is a hibernate
 integration...to read/save data to a database.
 
   Original-Nachricht 

  Datum: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:50:20 +0200
  Von: Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  An: users@wicket.apache.org
  Betreff: Re: Wicket critique
  
 

  http://herebebeasties.com/static/Wicket-QuickStart.avi
 
  shows that setting up maven, wicket and eclipse is really easy
  (provided you are not limited by a proxy)
 
  Martijn
 
  On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Chris Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
  I tried many different frameworks in the past and Wicket was probably

  one of the easiest to set up and integrate into Eclipse. I have to
 admit that
  the learning curve is quite steep here. It helped me being familiar
 with
  Eclipse and the Tomcat integration to get things going quickly.
 Besides: I
  don't use Maven.
  
 
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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread Yiannis Mavroukakis

Yep.

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This one:

http://wicketstuff.org/confluence/display/STUFFWIKI/Wicket-Iolite 


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Iolite is your friend :-)

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The only thing that is missing in this video is a hibernate
  

integration...to read/save data to a database.


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http://herebebeasties.com/static/Wicket-QuickStart.avi

shows that setting up maven, wicket and eclipse is really easy
(provided you are not limited by a proxy)

Martijn

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Chris Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I tried many different frameworks in the past and Wicket was probably
  
  

one of the easiest to set up and integrate into Eclipse. I have to


admit that


the learning curve is quite steep here. It helped me being familiar


with


Eclipse and the Tomcat integration to get things going quickly.


Besides: I


don't use Maven.



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http://stackoverflow.com/questions/116978/can-anyone-recommend-a-simple-java-web-app-framework




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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread James Carman
Right now, we don't have a task list set up.  We should probably do
that if there are going to be multiple cooks in the kitchen. :)  What
I'd like to figure out is how the form/autogenerated editor panel
stuff works together.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Yiannis Mavroukakis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This one:

 http://wicketstuff.org/confluence/display/STUFFWIKI/Wicket-Iolite
 ?

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 Datum: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:26:44 +0100
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 Iolite is your friend :-)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 The only thing that is missing in this video is a hibernate


 integration...to read/save data to a database.


  Original-Nachricht 


 Datum: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:50:20 +0200
 Von: Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 An: users@wicket.apache.org
 Betreff: Re: Wicket critique




 http://herebebeasties.com/static/Wicket-QuickStart.avi

 shows that setting up maven, wicket and eclipse is really easy
 (provided you are not limited by a proxy)

 Martijn

 On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Chris Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


 I tried many different frameworks in the past and Wicket was probably


 one of the easiest to set up and integrate into Eclipse. I have to


 admit that


 the learning curve is quite steep here. It helped me being familiar


 with


 Eclipse and the Tomcat integration to get things going quickly.


 Besides: I


 don't use Maven.


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Re: Wicket critique

2008-09-23 Thread Nino Saturnino Martinez Vazquez Wael

Check this out jpa/hibernate integration is what iolite are about currently:

http://ninomartinez.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/screencast-introducing-wicketstuff-iolite/

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The only thing that is missing in this video is a hibernate integration...to 
read/save data to a database.

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Datum: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:50:20 +0200
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http://herebebeasties.com/static/Wicket-QuickStart.avi

shows that setting up maven, wicket and eclipse is really easy
(provided you are not limited by a proxy)

Martijn

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Chris Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


I tried many different frameworks in the past and Wicket was probably
  

one of the easiest to set up and integrate into Eclipse. I have to admit that
the learning curve is quite steep here. It helped me being familiar with
Eclipse and the Tomcat integration to get things going quickly. Besides: I
don't use Maven.



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