Re: [xwiki-users] Tomcat BSD Nginx
Eric, Java has a slow start. Yes that's known. But once warmed it often performs better than many other things. Maybe it helps. paul Le 11 déc. 2010 à 18:59, Eric Tse a écrit : I have now installed Nginx and done a proxy through to tomcat, its.. quite.. slow.. IMO, probably cause its Java? - Eric ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Tomcat BSD Nginx
Le 11 déc. 2010 à 04:52, Eric Tse a écrit : So based on your experiences, or anyone else's is MySQL better, persay vs PostgresSQL? Tasteful speaking I always preferred Postgres (more strict open-source, more sys-admin-oriented) but I know MySQL is more widespread and sometimes faster. So since tomcat is a httpd server should I still use Ngninx as a proxy? The thing is. When you run a product web-site you generally do not want it to be run as root or any power user: it should be run as a user that barely can do something on the local machine because of the risk to execute things. XWiki is an environment where any administrator can execute any process very easily. In a normal unix environment you would create a user httpd and run the web-server with that user. Typically, however, the user httpd cannot even login and has no home, the servers are started as root than change the user. Is your nginx deployment doing all that? Apache normal deployments do. paul ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Tomcat BSD Nginx
I have now installed Nginx and done a proxy through to tomcat, its.. quite.. slow.. IMO, probably cause its Java? - Eric On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net wrote: Le 11 déc. 2010 à 04:52, Eric Tse a écrit : So based on your experiences, or anyone else's is MySQL better, persay vs PostgresSQL? Tasteful speaking I always preferred Postgres (more strict open-source, more sys-admin-oriented) but I know MySQL is more widespread and sometimes faster. So since tomcat is a httpd server should I still use Ngninx as a proxy? The thing is. When you run a product web-site you generally do not want it to be run as root or any power user: it should be run as a user that barely can do something on the local machine because of the risk to execute things. XWiki is an environment where any administrator can execute any process very easily. In a normal unix environment you would create a user httpd and run the web-server with that user. Typically, however, the user httpd cannot even login and has no home, the servers are started as root than change the user. Is your nginx deployment doing all that? Apache normal deployments do. paul ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Tomcat BSD Nginx
Le 10 déc. 2010 à 21:54, Eric Tse a écrit : How can I change Tomcat to use port 80 instead of 8180? I tried changing the connector port in the xml file then restarted but with no avail.. That's a tomcat question. As far as I know you did the right thing. Do restart tomcat and don't forget to be root (which is not really correct). Also is there a benefit from using Nginx to proxy into Tomcat? If so how would one do that? I don't know about Nginx but we generally keep Tomcat on a high port and keep an Apache httpd on port 80 with a simple proxy. That works very well. Then only Apache needs root access and the latter takes care of changing the user after the restart (which no servlet container I know does, it's a native thing). Proxies can become a lot more tuned if using mod_rewrite (e.g. to guarantee some short URLs in a very very flexible way, allow https, ...). paul ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Tomcat BSD Nginx
Thanks but I don't plan on using Apache the only thing installed on my BSD VPS is diablo jdk , tomcat and xwiki. I followed the tutorial on how to install xwiki on FreeBSD on the dev page of xwiki. Now that being said, is tomcat a httpd server? If not then I'm guessing I have to install nginx and proxy it to tomcat. Also since xwiki is java based, I don't have to install pop? Unless I want to serve php? Also how well does PostgresSQL fair in large wikis On Dec 10, 2010 1:33 PM, Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net wrote: Le 10 déc. 2010 à 21:54, Eric Tse a écrit : How can I change Tomcat to use port 80 instead of 8180? I tried changing the connector port in the xml file then restarted but with no avail.. That's a tomcat question. As far as I know you did the right thing. Do restart tomcat and don't forget to be root (which is not really correct). Also is there a benefit from using Nginx to proxy into Tomcat? If so how would one do that? I don't know about Nginx but we generally keep Tomcat on a high port and keep an Apache httpd on port 80 with a simple proxy. That works very well. Then only Apache needs root access and the latter takes care of changing the user after the restart (which no servlet container I know does, it's a native thing). Proxies can become a lot more tuned if using mod_rewrite (e.g. to guarantee some short URLs in a very very flexible way, allow https, ...). paul ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Tomcat BSD Nginx
Le 10 déc. 2010 à 22:40, Eric Tse a écrit : Thanks but I don't plan on using Apache the only thing installed on my BSD VPS is diablo jdk , tomcat and xwiki. I followed the tutorial on how to install xwiki on FreeBSD on the dev page of xwiki. Now that being said, is tomcat a httpd server? It is. If not then I'm guessing I have to install nginx and proxy it to tomcat. Also since xwiki is java based, I don't have to install pop? Unless I want to serve php? XWiki or tomcat are independent of PHP. Also how well does PostgresSQL fair in large wikis I think it can score well. I encountered, however, a few issues while trying to get some applications based on xwiki in active use. The generated SQL was incompatible with PostgreSQL. As a rule of the thumb, I think workability with MySQL is considerably more tested. paul On Dec 10, 2010 1:33 PM, Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net wrote: Le 10 déc. 2010 à 21:54, Eric Tse a écrit : How can I change Tomcat to use port 80 instead of 8180? I tried changing the connector port in the xml file then restarted but with no avail.. That's a tomcat question. As far as I know you did the right thing. Do restart tomcat and don't forget to be root (which is not really correct). Also is there a benefit from using Nginx to proxy into Tomcat? If so how would one do that? I don't know about Nginx but we generally keep Tomcat on a high port and keep an Apache httpd on port 80 with a simple proxy. That works very well. Then only Apache needs root access and the latter takes care of changing the user after the restart (which no servlet container I know does, it's a native thing). Proxies can become a lot more tuned if using mod_rewrite (e.g. to guarantee some short URLs in a very very flexible way, allow https, ...). paul ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Tomcat BSD Nginx
So based on your experiences, or anyone else's is MySQL better, persay vs PostgresSQL? So since tomcat is a httpd server should I still use Ngninx as a proxy? - Eric On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net wrote: Le 10 déc. 2010 à 22:40, Eric Tse a écrit : Thanks but I don't plan on using Apache the only thing installed on my BSD VPS is diablo jdk , tomcat and xwiki. I followed the tutorial on how to install xwiki on FreeBSD on the dev page of xwiki. Now that being said, is tomcat a httpd server? It is. If not then I'm guessing I have to install nginx and proxy it to tomcat. Also since xwiki is java based, I don't have to install pop? Unless I want to serve php? XWiki or tomcat are independent of PHP. Also how well does PostgresSQL fair in large wikis I think it can score well. I encountered, however, a few issues while trying to get some applications based on xwiki in active use. The generated SQL was incompatible with PostgreSQL. As a rule of the thumb, I think workability with MySQL is considerably more tested. paul On Dec 10, 2010 1:33 PM, Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net wrote: Le 10 déc. 2010 à 21:54, Eric Tse a écrit : How can I change Tomcat to use port 80 instead of 8180? I tried changing the connector port in the xml file then restarted but with no avail.. That's a tomcat question. As far as I know you did the right thing. Do restart tomcat and don't forget to be root (which is not really correct). Also is there a benefit from using Nginx to proxy into Tomcat? If so how would one do that? I don't know about Nginx but we generally keep Tomcat on a high port and keep an Apache httpd on port 80 with a simple proxy. That works very well. Then only Apache needs root access and the latter takes care of changing the user after the restart (which no servlet container I know does, it's a native thing). Proxies can become a lot more tuned if using mod_rewrite (e.g. to guarantee some short URLs in a very very flexible way, allow https, ...). paul ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
