Re: [xwiki-users] Upgrading xwiki

[Mahomed Hussein]

You should probably do a full-backup as per the backup instructions and then 
let the upgrade wizard handle the conversion/transfer for you. If you are 
installing a new instance of XWiki and want to restore the old files/documents, 
then you need to say that so people can help you.

As for "what is merge copy", Vincent's response was very clear. If you don't 
understand what "merge" means, then this link will help - 
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3A+merge

Basically it means to combine the old configuration files and new configuration 
files. You do this "manually" by comparing the differences between the old and 
the new files and ending up with a new configuration that has your custom 
changes from the old file (where relevant) plus the new settings from the new 
file. In most cases though if you are doing an in-place upgrade, the wizard 
does this for you (or at least makes it easier).

That being said, I agree with Cuong Hoang, you probably need to get someone 
with a bit more knowledge to do this for you.


Kind regards,




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Thanks Vincent for fast reply. I didn't clear this statement.

"you should not copy over the configuration files exactly since the new version 
could have added new configuration options”.

If i can't copy over the configuration files exactly, so how do i copy the 
configuration files?.
I am trying to copy the files in older version and paste it in newer version 
seems it is not copying and nothings change in newer version, that's confusing 
me.

I have import a lot of document in older version and now want to back up and 
insert all doc to newer version. How do i make it works? Why, after i copy the 
web-INF files and paste it in new version, nothings change..

Please advice.




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Re: [xwiki-users] Upgrading xwiki

[Cuong Hoang]

Hmm.. if you ask what it's meant by merge than I guess you probably are not
in software development or system administration, in which case I suggest
you contact your system administrator or an experienced software developer,
they can help you do the installation/upgrading. Regards.

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 4:56 PM hamiazuhk26  wrote:

> Thanks Vincent for fast reply. I didn't clear this statement.
>
> "you should not copy over the configuration files exactly since the new
> version could have added new configuration options”.
>
> If i can't copy over the configuration files exactly, so how do i copy the
> configuration files?.
> I am trying to copy the files in older version and paste it in newer
> version
> seems it is not copying and nothings change in newer version, that's
> confusing me.
>
> I have import a lot of document in older version and now want to back up
> and
> insert all doc to newer version. How do i make it works? Why, after i copy
> the web-INF files and paste it in new version, nothings change..
>
> Please advice.
>
>
>
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Re: [xwiki-users] Upgrading xwiki

[hamiazuhk26]

Thanks Vincent for fast reply. I didn't clear this statement.

"you should not copy over the configuration files exactly since the new
version could have added new configuration options”. 

If i can't copy over the configuration files exactly, so how do i copy the
configuration files?.
I am trying to copy the files in older version and paste it in newer version
seems it is not copying and nothings change in newer version, that's
confusing me.

I have import a lot of document in older version and now want to back up and
insert all doc to newer version. How do i make it works? Why, after i copy
the web-INF files and paste it in new version, nothings change..

Please advice.




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Re: [xwiki-users] Upgrading xwiki

[Vincent Massol]

> On 15 Dec 2016, at 10:29, hamiazuhk26  wrote:
> 
> I have go through the link so many times but it did not help me much.
> My question is what is mean by merge copy?

It says:

“
Then copy the configuration files and the permanent directory from the old 
installation to the new one. Ideally you should not copy over the configuration 
files exactly since the new version could have added new configuration options 
and thus ideally you should do a merge instead of a pure copy. Another strategy 
is to use the new configuration files, not copy over the old configuration 
files and instead manually edit the new configuration to make the same changes 
as you have may done before (If you've never touched the configuration files 
then there's nothing to do obviously!).
“

What is not clear? It’s pretty clear to me: "you should not copy over the 
configuration files exactly since the new version could have added new 
configuration options”.

FYI I’ve added a way to automated a bit the merge but I fear this may confuse 
you even more:
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade#HUpgradingthestandarddistribution

Thanks
-Vincent

> I have try to copy the configuration files(old version) and paste in newer
> version but still did not work.
> 
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Re: [xwiki-users] Upgrading xwiki

[hamiazuhk26]

I have go through the link so many times but it did not help me much.
My question is what is mean by merge copy?
I have try to copy the configuration files(old version) and paste in newer
version but still did not work.



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Re: [xwiki-users] Upgrading xwiki

[hamiazuhk26]

that link u give didnt help much. I just want to know what is mean by merge
copy?

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> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:13 AM, hamiazuhk26 <[hidden email]
> >
> wrote:
>
> > I am installing xwiki 8.3 version and i am using this version to import
> > page, create page, forum and many more.
> >
>
>
> > I am thinking on how to save all my
> > data , afraid if something happen the data will be lost.
>
>
> Then maybe you're looking for
> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Backup
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>
> > Just found this
> > link but it does not really help me.
> > upgrade
> >  > HUpgradingthestandarddistribution>
> >
> > I have read some notes, and tells me to backup several files/folder but
> > need
> > to do MERGE COPY INSTEAD OF PURE COPY. What is mean by merge copy? I
> don't
> > understand and don't have idea how to backup it and insert into newer
> > version.
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Re: [xwiki-users] Upgrading xwiki

[Marius Dumitru Florea]

Maybe you can give as a link to the guide that you're following or whatever
is the place where you've seen these instructions, because it's not clear
what you're trying to do.

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Khu Gambateh 
wrote:

> how to copy the configuration files and do the merge copy?
> What is merge copy? Directly copy paste or what..
> Im stuck, please help me
>

Re: [xwiki-users] Upgrading xWiki

[[IDIS Technical Secretariat] Ricardo Rodríguez]

Hi Mbas! I started to write this message weeks ago, and only now find time
enough to finish and send it. I hope it still makes some sense for you
or/and anybody else.

I'm afraid, as usual, I've not an easy answer for your question but I am,
and I'm also sure many others, interested in how you are going to face the
process. Migration is always a hard task as, very frequently, plain old
wikis are full with ad hoc not easily replaceable/migrable solutions.

Some years ago XWiki guys helped me to move a 1.x XWiki installation to a
XWiki Enterprise 2.4.30451 server and, since 7.x appeared, I've a peding
upgrade from that 2.4.30451 to a new 7.x server.

During the last months I've been documenting the process to upgrade within
the 7.x series, and now I feel more or less confortable with it.

Here some notes I would like to share even thought they are still kind of a
mess...

http://portal.idisantiago.es/xwiki/bin/download/ICT/UpgradingXWiki/upgradingXWiki.txt

I'm not sure if I'll be able to move to parameters all variable items and
construct a script, but I'll keep trying!

Also, I'm afraid any migration/upgrade process is very related with the
RDBMS, the application server and the web server (if any) of each
installation. My take now is that in a XWiki migration from an old version
to a brand new installation we have to design/follow a strategy more than
expect to have a fully equivalent upgraded installation.

For instance, I would like to:

1) As users and groups are the core of the system, I would like to move
my old XWiki community, the one installed in the 2.4.30451 server, to the
brand new 7.x box, get all users authenticating in the 7.x box and having
access with this login to the legacy 2.4.30451 box.
2) Once I get this done, I'll frozen my 2.4.30451 community and only allow
it to growth in the 7.x installation.
3) Contents will be exported/migrated on a per-demand/per-opportunity
basis.

While 2) and 3) are easily implementable, I''ve no idea about how to reach
1). Any comment, criticism or idea will be more than welcome!

Thanks in advance,

Ricardo



On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 3:42 PM, mbapoa poamba mba@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!

 Im trying to upgrade from xwiki 4.2 to 7.
 I already installed xwiki 7 and postgres in another server for testing
 purposes since Im new with xwiki. I adjusted the settings and started
 postgres. Xwiki 7 is working fine. Although I think its a bit slow (I
 installed in a virtual server, maybe thats it?).

 My main question is how to import all the old content to the new xwiki?
 I have a postgres dump of 11GB from the old xwiki. Should I use it in the
 new xwiki? If so, how?
 Is it the best way considering how far the versions are?


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Re: [xwiki-users] Upgrading XWiki Enterprise From 1.2.2 to 1.6.1

[Sergiu Dumitriu]

Chad Gorshing wrote:
 Greetings-
 
 I am need to upgrade an installation of XWiki from 1.2.2 to the latest 
 (currently 1.6.1) and I am trying to put together an attack plan.  Should I 
 attempt an upgrade all the way to 1.6.1 in one fell swoop or should I upgrade 
 to 1.3.2 - 1.4.1 ...etc.  Do I need to upgrade the XAR for every release or 
 just once?
 
 I am using hsqldb as my database, but after getting everything upgraded 
 correctly, I will be moving the database to MySQL.
 
 I have searched the archives but I haven't found anything more recent and 
 also dealing with wide range of upgrading I need to do.
 

You should go directly to 1.6.1. Only the most recent XAR must be 
imported, but take care not to override important things (groups, users, 
the main page).

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Re: [xwiki-users] Upgrading XWiki Enterprise From 1.2.2 to 1.6.1

[BSayatovic]

I recently upgraded from a 1.1 milestone to 1.6.0 in one fell swoop.

I did an export from my old installation, installed the new version in a
separate location, tweaked the out-of-the-box config (I kept notes on what
I customized last time so I could re-do it) and then did a selective
import.

I did have some troubles.  My exported XAR was huge and the 1.6.0 VM kept
running out of heap on import.  I ended up excluding history (*sniff*) and
also manually deleting unwanted items from the XAR, as well as increasing
the heap size.

But in the end, it worked!

Regards,
Brian.


   
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Greetings-

I am need to upgrade an installation of XWiki from 1.2.2 to the latest
(currently 1.6.1) and I am trying to put together an attack plan.  Should I
attempt an upgrade all the way to 1.6.1 in one fell swoop or should I
upgrade to 1.3.2 - 1.4.1 ...etc.  Do I need to upgrade the XAR for every
release or just once?

I am using hsqldb as my database, but after getting everything upgraded
correctly, I will be moving the database to MySQL.

I have searched the archives but I haven't found anything more recent and
also dealing with wide range of upgrading I need to do.

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Re: [xwiki-users] upgrading xwiki 1.2.2

[Joao Henrique Silva Santos]

  Great! As for the database, I think I could offer you temporal hosting for
 a small MySQL database here. Let me know if you consider it will help you to
 convince your administrator that to host MySQL there (or any other option)
 will be a good idea.

Thanks for your offer, but i think it won't be necessary :)



  Nope, global.vm is by no means deprecated! But it is now stored in the
 /templates folder under /xwiki. All Velocity templates have been moved
 there.

Thanks! should have remembered of doing a find $WIKI -name global.vm :p


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Re: [xwiki-users] upgrading xwiki 1.2.2

[Joao Henrique Silva Santos]

 I think this path could go in a FAQ entry. Perhaps it does not make
  sense to propose a way of updating from the zipped standalone
  distribution running on Jetty/hhsqldb to the war one. The standalone
  release is intended to entry level users, and it would be advisable to
  move to the war distribution running on whatever servlet container and a
  relational database like MySQL or Oracle. But you have your contents in
  the standalone version... what database are you planning to run with
  XWiki war?


I'll make a post in the FAQ.
As for the database, I'm not sure, since I'm not responsible for the
server and don't know yet what database and servlets are availabe.
Will try to find out...


 This is not a good idea. Albatross has changed a lot since 1.2.2 times
  (better, the pair Albatross/Toucan :-), so I think you MUST use the new
  release. I will be glad to help you to recover your customized behavior,
  but first of all we need to work out the collapsed/expanded panels issue.

  What do you think?


I think you're right, even with the collapsed panels problem solved.
Just have to find a time when I can allow myself to break the layout
of the wiki. Even though the page its in the very early construction
phase, I have couple of co-workers who also make contributions.

So my first question regarding the albatross skin is the following:
Since the global.vm file is missing, and at least a few of the
properties it defined are now elsewhere (such as colors.css), while
others are not, should I create a new global.vm or is it entirely
deprecated?
In my case, I want to modify the url of the main logo, which was
defined in global.vm as

[...]
  div id=company
  div id=companylogo
a href=SOMEURL
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Re: [xwiki-users] upgrading xwiki 1.2.2

[[Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team]

Joao Henrique Silva Santos wrote:


I'll make a post in the FAQ.
As for the database, I'm not sure, since I'm not responsible for the
server and don't know yet what database and servlets are availabe.
Will try to find out...


Great! As for the database, I think I could offer you temporal hosting 
for a small MySQL database here. Let me know if you consider it will 
help you to convince your administrator that to host MySQL there (or any 
other option) will be a good idea.

I think you're right, even with the collapsed panels problem solved.
Just have to find a time when I can allow myself to break the layout
of the wiki. Even though the page its in the very early construction
phase, I have couple of co-workers who also make contributions.

So my first question regarding the albatross skin is the following:
Since the global.vm file is missing, and at least a few of the
properties it defined are now elsewhere (such as colors.css), while
others are not, should I create a new global.vm or is it entirely
deprecated?
In my case, I want to modify the url of the main logo, which was
defined in global.vm as

[...]
  div id=company
  div id=companylogo
a href=SOMEURL
[]


Nope, global.vm is by no means deprecated! But it is now stored in the 
/templates folder under /xwiki. All Velocity templates have been moved 
there.


But if you create your own skin and put a global.vm file there, it will 
take precedence over the one in /templates.


Take a look to this...

http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Skins#HCreatingawholenewskin

This might help.

Cheers,

Ricardo

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Re: [xwiki-users] upgrading xwiki 1.2.2

[Joao Henrique Silva Santos]

Hi
Yes, I did, but it only mentions the WAR distribution upgrade. Or am I
mis-reading it?

rgds,
Joao

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  Joao Henrique Silva Santos wrote:
   Hi.
  
   I have installed an XWiki 1.2.2 through a XWiki Enterprise ZIP, and
   now want to upgrade to 1.3.
   From the documentation, it seems that easy upgrades of the wiki
   require the WAR installation, which I have not done. Do I have to
   export my current wiki into a WAR (if so, how can I do it?), or is it
   done through a different method?



 Have you checked out Upgrading an XWiki Installation in the following
  location?

  http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation

  HTH,

  Ricardo


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Re: [xwiki-users] upgrading xwiki 1.2.2

[[Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team]

Hi,

Joao Henrique Silva Santos wrote:
 Hi
 Yes, I did, but it only mentions the WAR distribution upgrade. Or am I
 mis-reading it?

Touché! :-) Good point. It was me myself who misread your message.

I've once downloaded and used a zipped distribution to debug a problem 
with MySQL (following Vincent advice) and all what I did was to remove 
the folder of the hsqldb database (I don't remember the name and some 
xwiki.org sections are now down for maintenance, but it was easy to 
locate) and configure hibernate.cfg.xml accordingly.

So I am *guessing* that all you have to do is to bring down your servlet 
container, create a backup copy of the whole /xwiki directory structure 
(jsut in case!), put in place the new zip contents, copy your current 
database to the new location and start the container again.

Please, let me knows if this helped. It could be helpful for others if 
we could create a FAQ about this (if it doesn't existe yet!) Thanks.

Best,

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Re: [xwiki-users] upgrading xwiki 1.2.2

[Joao Henrique Silva Santos]

Thanks for the info.
I'll try it when I know I have some free time just for the upgrading,
in case something goes wrong. Perhaps later today.
In any case, I'll post some results.

But I have a question, when you say to copy database do you mean only
the $XWIKI_HOME/database folder? just like that :-) ?

rgds,
Joao

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  Joao Henrique Silva Santos wrote:
   Hi

  Yes, I did, but it only mentions the WAR distribution upgrade. Or am I
   mis-reading it?


 Touché! :-) Good point. It was me myself who misread your message.

  I've once downloaded and used a zipped distribution to debug a problem
  with MySQL (following Vincent advice) and all what I did was to remove
  the folder of the hsqldb database (I don't remember the name and some
  xwiki.org sections are now down for maintenance, but it was easy to
  locate) and configure hibernate.cfg.xml accordingly.

  So I am *guessing* that all you have to do is to bring down your servlet
  container, create a backup copy of the whole /xwiki directory structure
  (jsut in case!), put in place the new zip contents, copy your current
  database to the new location and start the container again.


 Please, let me knows if this helped. It could be helpful for others if
  we could create a FAQ about this (if it doesn't existe yet!) Thanks.

  Best,

  Ricado


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Re: [xwiki-users] upgrading xwiki 1.2.2

[Joao Henrique Silva Santos]

Hi.
I've upgraded the xwiki from 1.2.2 to 1.3 final using the zip distributions
All I did was:

1 - copy the entire directory to a backup folder
2 - unzip the 1.3 zip file xwiki-enterprise-hsqldb-1.3.zip
3 - deleted the newly created database ($XWIKI_HOME/database), and
replaced it with the backed up database folder.

Then I wanted to implement the changes I had made on the 1.2.2
albatross skin, but since I could not find where to make some changes
(namely how to change the url of the wiki icon, which was defined on
global.vm), I decided instead to:

4 - rename albatross (in webapps/xwiki/skins) to albatrossORIGINAL;
5 - copy to the skins folder the albatross folder from my backed up
1.2.2 xwiki

It is now running and so far it seems everything is fine, including user list.

Joao


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  Thanks for the info.
   I'll try it when I know I have some free time just for the upgrading,
   in case something goes wrong. Perhaps later today.
   In any case, I'll post some results.
  
   But I have a question, when you say to copy database do you mean only
   the $XWIKI_HOME/database folder? just like that :-) ?


 Yeap, as simple as that :-) XWiki is a great and simple stuff!

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Re: [xwiki-users] upgrading xwiki 1.2.2

[[Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team]

Great!

Joao Henrique Silva Santos wrote:
 Hi.
 I've upgraded the xwiki from 1.2.2 to 1.3 final using the zip distributions
 All I did was:

 1 - copy the entire directory to a backup folder
 2 - unzip the 1.3 zip file xwiki-enterprise-hsqldb-1.3.zip
 3 - deleted the newly created database ($XWIKI_HOME/database), and
 replaced it with the backed up database folder.
   

I think this path could go in a FAQ entry. Perhaps it does not make 
sense to propose a way of updating from the zipped standalone 
distribution running on Jetty/hhsqldb to the war one. The standalone 
release is intended to entry level users, and it would be advisable to 
move to the war distribution running on whatever servlet container and a 
relational database like MySQL or Oracle. But you have your contents in 
the standalone version... what database are you planning to run with 
XWiki war?
 Then I wanted to implement the changes I had made on the 1.2.2
 albatross skin, but since I could not find where to make some changes
 (namely how to change the url of the wiki icon, which was defined on
 global.vm), I decided instead to:

 4 - rename albatross (in webapps/xwiki/skins) to albatrossORIGINAL;
 5 - copy to the skins folder the albatross folder from my backed up
 1.2.2 xwiki
   

This is not a good idea. Albatross has changed a lot since 1.2.2 times 
(better, the pair Albatross/Toucan :-), so I think you MUST use the new 
release. I will be glad to help you to recover your customized behavior, 
but first of all we need to work out the collapsed/expanded panels issue.

What do you think?

Saúde,

Ricardo

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Re: [xwiki-users] upgrading xwiki 1.2.2

[[Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team]

Hi Joao,


Joao Henrique Silva Santos wrote:
 Hi.

 I have installed an XWiki 1.2.2 through a XWiki Enterprise ZIP, and
 now want to upgrade to 1.3.
 From the documentation, it seems that easy upgrades of the wiki
 require the WAR installation, which I have not done. Do I have to
 export my current wiki into a WAR (if so, how can I do it?), or is it
 done through a different method?


Have you checked out Upgrading an XWiki Installation in the following 
location?

http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation

HTH,

Ricardo

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