Re: [xwiki-users] XWIKI to MediaWIKI
Thanks to your advice, i'm going to spend 2-3 days on basics and see if i can make the simple workflow this week ;) Good community ! i like it :) 2014-05-13 9:49 GMT+01:00 walid yaich : > Thank you so much, i'll talk to my boss and see what can we do, so nice to > get responses > > > 2014-05-13 9:32 GMT+01:00 vinc...@massol.net : > > Hi Walid, >> >> On 13 May 2014 at 10:23:42, walid yaich (walid.ya...@gmail.com(mailto: >> walid.ya...@gmail.com)) wrote: >> >> > I'm sorry, i'm so serious, we're more than 300 persons in the company >> using XIWKI, si i'm pretty serious, if it's possible to write a tool to >> migrate in 1 or 2 weeks, i'll probably do it. >> >> BTW did you check the comments at >> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XWiki+Publication+Workflow+Application? >> >> Note that this extension is NOT developed by the XWiki dev team, it’s >> done by some individual and is in no way supported by the XWiki dev team. >> >> Also note that you don’t need this extension at all to implement a simple >> workflow in XWiki. It can be done easily with the notion of XClass/XObjects >> natively but you’d need to spend 1-2 days to understand these concepts. >> Actually these concepts are the main reason people use XWiki and they allow >> you to go so much further than any other wiki can go. >> >> If you’re serious and want to build something for the long run, I highly >> recommend that you spend 2-3 days to get familiar with XWiki before making >> an impacting change for your company. >> >> Some tutorials on XClass/XObjects: >> - http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/DataModel >> - http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/FAQTutorial >> >> Generally speaking you’ll find technical resources here: >> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/WebHome >> >> > Maybe you're right, i didn't wait much, but i spend much time trying to >> make it work and i didn't even understand the concept of this extension, so >> maybe it's not well documented, in 1 days i get MediaWIKI with the >> extension work properly, but i spend 3 days on XWIKI without any result, so >> maybe one another reason is documentation :) >> >> >> Yes that’s a good point. We always need to improve documentation. In this >> case however, it’s beyond our control since this is an extension >> contributed by some individual and is in no way managed by the XWiki dev >> team. >> >> What could help would be to have a Workflow extension developed/supported >> by the XWiki dev team. If enough people request this, this could be >> considered indeed. >> >> BTW most people switch from Mediawiki to XWiki because they’re quickly >> limited by Mediawiki on the “enterprise” aspects: fine-grained permissions, >> flat page hierarchy, LDAP integration, Office integration, etc. >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >> > 2014-05-13 9:18 GMT+01:00 vinc...@massol.net(mailto:vinc...@massol.net) >> : >> >> > > >> > > On 12 May 2014 at 23:59:35, walid yaich (walid.ya...@gmail.com >> (mailto:walid.ya...@gmail.com)(mailto:walid.ya...@gmail.com)) wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hi everybody, >> > > > >> > > > The reason is that we need a simple workflow in the wiki, the >> extension XWiki >> > > > Publication Workflow Application not working. >> > > >> > > hmm that doesn’t seem a good reason to switch IMO… :) >> > > >> > > You’re going to spend 10 times more time writing a migrator than you >> would to make the Workflow Application work. AFAICS you’ve just posted an >> email about the Workflow issue only a few minutes/hours ago and you’re not >> even waiting for the response before deciding to migrate, that doesn’t look >> serious to me… >> > > >> > > Thanks >> > > -Vincent >> > > >> > > > Well, actually i need to move from XWIKI to MediaWIKI, but the most >> > > > difficult problem is the migration >> > > > >> > > > Would you please give me any clue about the easiest way to migrate >> the >> > > > whole content from XWIKI to MediaWIKI >> > > > >> > > > Thanks in advance :) >> > >> > > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] XWIKI to MediaWIKI
Thank you so much, i'll talk to my boss and see what can we do, so nice to get responses 2014-05-13 9:32 GMT+01:00 vinc...@massol.net : > Hi Walid, > > On 13 May 2014 at 10:23:42, walid yaich (walid.ya...@gmail.com(mailto: > walid.ya...@gmail.com)) wrote: > > > I'm sorry, i'm so serious, we're more than 300 persons in the company > using XIWKI, si i'm pretty serious, if it's possible to write a tool to > migrate in 1 or 2 weeks, i'll probably do it. > > BTW did you check the comments at > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XWiki+Publication+Workflow+Application? > > Note that this extension is NOT developed by the XWiki dev team, it’s done > by some individual and is in no way supported by the XWiki dev team. > > Also note that you don’t need this extension at all to implement a simple > workflow in XWiki. It can be done easily with the notion of XClass/XObjects > natively but you’d need to spend 1-2 days to understand these concepts. > Actually these concepts are the main reason people use XWiki and they allow > you to go so much further than any other wiki can go. > > If you’re serious and want to build something for the long run, I highly > recommend that you spend 2-3 days to get familiar with XWiki before making > an impacting change for your company. > > Some tutorials on XClass/XObjects: > - http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/DataModel > - http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/FAQTutorial > > Generally speaking you’ll find technical resources here: > http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/WebHome > > > Maybe you're right, i didn't wait much, but i spend much time trying to > make it work and i didn't even understand the concept of this extension, so > maybe it's not well documented, in 1 days i get MediaWIKI with the > extension work properly, but i spend 3 days on XWIKI without any result, so > maybe one another reason is documentation :) > > > Yes that’s a good point. We always need to improve documentation. In this > case however, it’s beyond our control since this is an extension > contributed by some individual and is in no way managed by the XWiki dev > team. > > What could help would be to have a Workflow extension developed/supported > by the XWiki dev team. If enough people request this, this could be > considered indeed. > > BTW most people switch from Mediawiki to XWiki because they’re quickly > limited by Mediawiki on the “enterprise” aspects: fine-grained permissions, > flat page hierarchy, LDAP integration, Office integration, etc. > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > 2014-05-13 9:18 GMT+01:00 vinc...@massol.net(mailto:vinc...@massol.net) > : > > > > > > > On 12 May 2014 at 23:59:35, walid yaich (walid.ya...@gmail.com(mailto: > walid.ya...@gmail.com)(mailto:walid.ya...@gmail.com)) wrote: > > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > > > The reason is that we need a simple workflow in the wiki, the > extension XWiki > > > > Publication Workflow Application not working. > > > > > > hmm that doesn’t seem a good reason to switch IMO… :) > > > > > > You’re going to spend 10 times more time writing a migrator than you > would to make the Workflow Application work. AFAICS you’ve just posted an > email about the Workflow issue only a few minutes/hours ago and you’re not > even waiting for the response before deciding to migrate, that doesn’t look > serious to me… > > > > > > Thanks > > > -Vincent > > > > > > > Well, actually i need to move from XWIKI to MediaWIKI, but the most > > > > difficult problem is the migration > > > > > > > > Would you please give me any clue about the easiest way to migrate > the > > > > whole content from XWIKI to MediaWIKI > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance :) > > > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] XWIKI to MediaWIKI
Hi Walid, On 13 May 2014 at 10:23:42, walid yaich (walid.ya...@gmail.com(mailto:walid.ya...@gmail.com)) wrote: > I'm sorry, i'm so serious, we're more than 300 persons in the company using > XIWKI, si i'm pretty serious, if it's possible to write a tool to migrate in > 1 or 2 weeks, i'll probably do it. BTW did you check the comments at http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XWiki+Publication+Workflow+Application ? Note that this extension is NOT developed by the XWiki dev team, it’s done by some individual and is in no way supported by the XWiki dev team. Also note that you don’t need this extension at all to implement a simple workflow in XWiki. It can be done easily with the notion of XClass/XObjects natively but you’d need to spend 1-2 days to understand these concepts. Actually these concepts are the main reason people use XWiki and they allow you to go so much further than any other wiki can go. If you’re serious and want to build something for the long run, I highly recommend that you spend 2-3 days to get familiar with XWiki before making an impacting change for your company. Some tutorials on XClass/XObjects: - http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/DataModel - http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/FAQTutorial Generally speaking you’ll find technical resources here: http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/WebHome > Maybe you're right, i didn't wait much, but i spend much time trying to make > it work and i didn't even understand the concept of this extension, so maybe > it's not well documented, in 1 days i get MediaWIKI with the extension work > properly, but i spend 3 days on XWIKI without any result, so maybe one > another reason is documentation :) Yes that’s a good point. We always need to improve documentation. In this case however, it’s beyond our control since this is an extension contributed by some individual and is in no way managed by the XWiki dev team. What could help would be to have a Workflow extension developed/supported by the XWiki dev team. If enough people request this, this could be considered indeed. BTW most people switch from Mediawiki to XWiki because they’re quickly limited by Mediawiki on the “enterprise” aspects: fine-grained permissions, flat page hierarchy, LDAP integration, Office integration, etc. Thanks -Vincent > 2014-05-13 9:18 GMT+01:00 vinc...@massol.net(mailto:vinc...@massol.net) : > > > > On 12 May 2014 at 23:59:35, walid yaich > > (walid.ya...@gmail.com(mailto:walid.ya...@gmail.com)(mailto:walid.ya...@gmail.com)) > > wrote: > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > The reason is that we need a simple workflow in the wiki, the extension > > > XWiki > > > Publication Workflow Application not working. > > > > hmm that doesn’t seem a good reason to switch IMO… :) > > > > You’re going to spend 10 times more time writing a migrator than you would > > to make the Workflow Application work. AFAICS you’ve just posted an email > > about the Workflow issue only a few minutes/hours ago and you’re not even > > waiting for the response before deciding to migrate, that doesn’t look > > serious to me… > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > > > Well, actually i need to move from XWIKI to MediaWIKI, but the most > > > difficult problem is the migration > > > > > > Would you please give me any clue about the easiest way to migrate the > > > whole content from XWIKI to MediaWIKI > > > > > > Thanks in advance :) > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] XWIKI to MediaWIKI
I'm sorry, i'm so serious, we're more than 300 persons in the company using XIWKI, si i'm pretty serious, if it's possible to write a tool to migrate in 1 or 2 weeks, i'll probably do it. Maybe you're right, i didn't wait much, but i spend much time trying to make it work and i didn't even understand the concept of this extension, so maybe it's not well documented, in 1 days i get MediaWIKI with the extension work properly, but i spend 3 days on XWIKI without any result, so maybe one another reason is documentation :) 2014-05-13 9:18 GMT+01:00 vinc...@massol.net : > > > On 12 May 2014 at 23:59:35, walid yaich (walid.ya...@gmail.com(mailto: > walid.ya...@gmail.com)) wrote: > > > Hi everybody, > > > > The reason is that we need a simple workflow in the wiki, the extension > XWiki > > Publication Workflow Application not working. > > hmm that doesn’t seem a good reason to switch IMO… :) > > You’re going to spend 10 times more time writing a migrator than you would > to make the Workflow Application work. AFAICS you’ve just posted an email > about the Workflow issue only a few minutes/hours ago and you’re not even > waiting for the response before deciding to migrate, that doesn’t look > serious to me… > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > Well, actually i need to move from XWIKI to MediaWIKI, but the most > > difficult problem is the migration > > > > Would you please give me any clue about the easiest way to migrate the > > whole content from XWIKI to MediaWIKI > > > > Thanks in advance :) > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] XWIKI to MediaWIKI
On 12 May 2014 at 23:59:35, walid yaich (walid.ya...@gmail.com(mailto:walid.ya...@gmail.com)) wrote: > Hi everybody, > > The reason is that we need a simple workflow in the wiki, the extension XWiki > Publication Workflow Application not working. hmm that doesn’t seem a good reason to switch IMO… :) You’re going to spend 10 times more time writing a migrator than you would to make the Workflow Application work. AFAICS you’ve just posted an email about the Workflow issue only a few minutes/hours ago and you’re not even waiting for the response before deciding to migrate, that doesn’t look serious to me… Thanks -Vincent > Well, actually i need to move from XWIKI to MediaWIKI, but the most > difficult problem is the migration > > Would you please give me any clue about the easiest way to migrate the > whole content from XWIKI to MediaWIKI > > Thanks in advance :) ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] XWIKI to MediaWIKI
There is no existing tool I know of for this, see my answer on your other mail on dev mailing list. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:59 PM, walid yaich wrote: > Hi everybody, > > The reason is that we need a simple workflow in the wiki, the extension XWiki > Publication Workflow Application not working. > > Well, actually i need to move from XWIKI to MediaWIKI, but the most > difficult problem is the migration > > Would you please give me any clue about the easiest way to migrate the > whole content from XWIKI to MediaWIKI > > Thanks in advance :) > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Thomas Mortagne ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
