Re: [xwiki-users] advice on wiki structure

2008-12-12 Thread Regan Gill
Ricardo (and anyone else who like me needed to do more with users and groups 
than xwiki provides by default),

This may help you get started and save time. I have added a bunch of extra 
properties to users to store more information by changing XWikiUserSheet and 
use velocity to display the information in useable ways. Below is the basics of 
a page I have for simply displaying all the info for every user of the wiki, 
although in our case it has a bunch of custom properties. Following that is 
some code to show users in each group. 
/**Start code here**/

All Team Members on the Wiki (using velocity)

#set ($sql = , BaseObject as obj where obj.name=doc.fullName and 
obj.className='XWiki.XWikiUsers')
#set ($allUsers = $xwiki.searchDocuments($sql))

Click User name to get more information or edit profile

table id=userTable class=grid sortable filterable doOddEven 
cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0 nowrap
tr class=sortHeader
thUser/th
thProject/th
thEmail/th
thCompany/th
/tr
#foreach ($user in $allUsers)
 #set ($userdoc = $xwiki.getDocument($user))
 #set ($em = $userdoc.display(email,view,$user))
 tr
td[$userdoc.first_name $userdoc.last_name | $userdoc] /td
td $userdoc.display(other_info,view,$user)/td
td[$em | mailto:$em ]/td
td $userdoc.display(company,view,$user)/td
 /tr
 #end
/table
/**END xwiki code

/**Start code here**/
Get the email of all users in a group (using velocity)

#set ($sql = , BaseObject as obj where obj.name=doc.fullName and 
obj.className='XWiki.XWikiGroups')
#set ($allGroups = $xwiki.searchDocuments($sql))
#foreach ($group in $allGroups)
1.1 $group
#set ($groupdoc = $xwiki.getDocument($group))
#set ($groupMembers = 
$util.sort($xwiki.rightsmanager.getAllMembersNamesForGroup($groupdoc.name)))
#foreach ($mem in $groupMembers)
#set ($userdoc = $xwiki.getDocument($mem))
#set ($em = $userdoc.display(email,view,$mem))
$embr
#end
#end
/**END xwiki code

 -Original Message-
 From: users-boun...@xwiki.org [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On
 Behalf Of [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:56 AM
 To: XWiki Users
 Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] advice on wiki structure
 
 Hi Graham,
 
 If you are looking for consultancy, I am sure http://xwiki.com is the
 right place to start with.
 
 If you are simply asking if what you are looking for is possible with
 XWiki, I think yes. I think it is worth you take a look to Virtual
 servers
 (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/HowToSetupVirtualWikis)
 and XWiki Enterprise Manager
 (http://manager.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/).
 
 XWiki has a huge number of features, many of them not obvious by now
 for
 a regular user like me, that allow fine grained access control and a
 complete separation between business rules, presentation and data.
 
 I think we need a better understanding of the available tools and a lot
 of imagination to put things together! :-)
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Ricardo
 
 creegers wrote:
  I'm currently trying to measure XWIKI against some business
 requirements; our
  business are basically looking for a simple WIKI that we can use to
 store
  corporate/enterprise knowledge in a single place and make available
 to the
  public via our websites and internally to our customer service
 agents.
 
  For a little more background to the requirements, the business is a
  financial institution that provides loan products in different
 countries.
  Each country currently has their own website (served on different
 domains,
  with no obvious links to others), customers can apply for financial
 products
  and administer their accounts through the sites, the terminology used
 to
  describe the products is the same regardless of the country, however
 the
  business rules e.g. application process, interest rates is/can be
 different.
 
  The business want to expose the content deemed as publicly available
 through
  a FAQ/WIKI section on each website, however they don't wish other
 countries
  content to be displayed on that website.
 
  Our customer service agents should be able to search the entire WIKI
 when
  dealing with customers phone enquiries, they also wish there to be
 more
  internal information available to the agents.
 
  I'm struggling to think of a way to achieve this using XWIKI and
 would be
  grateful of any advice.
 
  Thanks in advance
  Graham
 
 
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Re: [xwiki-users] advice on wiki structure

2008-12-12 Thread [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team
Cool!

Don't you think this is worth a FAQ entry?

Look at http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/

Thanks!

Ricardo

Regan Gill wrote:
 Ricardo (and anyone else who like me needed to do more with users and groups 
 than xwiki provides by default),

 This may help you get started and save time. I have added a bunch of extra 
 properties to users to store more information by changing XWikiUserSheet and 
 use velocity to display the information in useable ways. Below is the basics 
 of a page I have for simply displaying all the info for every user of the 
 wiki, although in our case it has a bunch of custom properties. Following 
 that is some code to show users in each group. 
 /**Start code here**/

 All Team Members on the Wiki (using velocity)

 #set ($sql = , BaseObject as obj where obj.name=doc.fullName and 
 obj.className='XWiki.XWikiUsers')
 #set ($allUsers = $xwiki.searchDocuments($sql))

 Click User name to get more information or edit profile

 table id=userTable class=grid sortable filterable doOddEven 
 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0 nowrap
   tr class=sortHeader
   thUser/th
   thProject/th
   thEmail/th
   thCompany/th
   /tr
 #foreach ($user in $allUsers)
  #set ($userdoc = $xwiki.getDocument($user))
  #set ($em = $userdoc.display(email,view,$user))
  tr
   td[$userdoc.first_name $userdoc.last_name | $userdoc] /td
   td $userdoc.display(other_info,view,$user)/td
   td[$em | mailto:$em ]/td
   td $userdoc.display(company,view,$user)/td
  /tr
  #end
 /table
 /**END xwiki code

 /**Start code here**/
 Get the email of all users in a group (using velocity)

 #set ($sql = , BaseObject as obj where obj.name=doc.fullName and 
 obj.className='XWiki.XWikiGroups')
 #set ($allGroups = $xwiki.searchDocuments($sql))
 #foreach ($group in $allGroups)
 1.1 $group
   #set ($groupdoc = $xwiki.getDocument($group))
   #set ($groupMembers = 
 $util.sort($xwiki.rightsmanager.getAllMembersNamesForGroup($groupdoc.name)))
   #foreach ($mem in $groupMembers)
   #set ($userdoc = $xwiki.getDocument($mem))
   #set ($em = $userdoc.display(email,view,$mem))
   $embr
 #end
 #end
 /**END xwiki code

   
 -Original Message-
 From: users-boun...@xwiki.org [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On
 Behalf Of [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:56 AM
 To: XWiki Users
 Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] advice on wiki structure

 Hi Graham,

 If you are looking for consultancy, I am sure http://xwiki.com is the
 right place to start with.

 If you are simply asking if what you are looking for is possible with
 XWiki, I think yes. I think it is worth you take a look to Virtual
 servers
 (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/HowToSetupVirtualWikis)
 and XWiki Enterprise Manager
 (http://manager.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/).

 XWiki has a huge number of features, many of them not obvious by now
 for
 a regular user like me, that allow fine grained access control and a
 complete separation between business rules, presentation and data.

 I think we need a better understanding of the available tools and a lot
 of imagination to put things together! :-)

 Hope this helps,

 Ricardo

 creegers wrote:
 
 I'm currently trying to measure XWIKI against some business
   
 requirements; our
 
 business are basically looking for a simple WIKI that we can use to
   
 store
 
 corporate/enterprise knowledge in a single place and make available
   
 to the
 
 public via our websites and internally to our customer service
   
 agents.
 
 For a little more background to the requirements, the business is a
 financial institution that provides loan products in different
   
 countries.
 
 Each country currently has their own website (served on different
   
 domains,
 
 with no obvious links to others), customers can apply for financial
   
 products
 
 and administer their accounts through the sites, the terminology used
   
 to
 
 describe the products is the same regardless of the country, however
   
 the
 
 business rules e.g. application process, interest rates is/can be
   
 different.
 
 The business want to expose the content deemed as publicly available
   
 through
 
 a FAQ/WIKI section on each website, however they don't wish other
   
 countries
 
 content to be displayed on that website.

 Our customer service agents should be able to search the entire WIKI
   
 when
 
 dealing with customers phone enquiries, they also wish there to be
   
 more
 
 internal information available to the agents.

 I'm struggling to think of a way to achieve this using XWIKI and
   
 would be
 
 grateful of any advice.

 Thanks in advance
 Graham

   
 --
 Ricardo Rodríguez
 Your EPEC Network ICT Team

Re: [xwiki-users] advice on wiki structure

2008-12-12 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu
[Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team wrote:
 Cool!
 
 Don't you think this is worth a FAQ entry?
 
 Look at http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/
 

Or even better, a snippet on code.xwiki.org

 
 Regan Gill wrote:
 Ricardo (and anyone else who like me needed to do more with users and groups 
 than xwiki provides by default),

 This may help you get started and save time. I have added a bunch of extra 
 properties to users to store more information by changing XWikiUserSheet and 
 use velocity to display the information in useable ways. Below is the basics 
 of a page I have for simply displaying all the info for every user of the 
 wiki, although in our case it has a bunch of custom properties. Following 
 that is some code to show users in each group. 
 /**Start code here**/

 All Team Members on the Wiki (using velocity)

 #set ($sql = , BaseObject as obj where obj.name=doc.fullName and 
 obj.className='XWiki.XWikiUsers')
 #set ($allUsers = $xwiki.searchDocuments($sql))

 Click User name to get more information or edit profile

 table id=userTable class=grid sortable filterable doOddEven 
 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0 nowrap
  tr class=sortHeader
  thUser/th
  thProject/th
  thEmail/th
  thCompany/th
  /tr
 #foreach ($user in $allUsers)
  #set ($userdoc = $xwiki.getDocument($user))
  #set ($em = $userdoc.display(email,view,$user))
  tr
  td[$userdoc.first_name $userdoc.last_name | $userdoc] /td
  td $userdoc.display(other_info,view,$user)/td
  td[$em | mailto:$em ]/td
  td $userdoc.display(company,view,$user)/td
  /tr
  #end
 /table
 /**END xwiki code

 /**Start code here**/
 Get the email of all users in a group (using velocity)

 #set ($sql = , BaseObject as obj where obj.name=doc.fullName and 
 obj.className='XWiki.XWikiGroups')
 #set ($allGroups = $xwiki.searchDocuments($sql))
 #foreach ($group in $allGroups)
 1.1 $group
  #set ($groupdoc = $xwiki.getDocument($group))
  #set ($groupMembers = 
 $util.sort($xwiki.rightsmanager.getAllMembersNamesForGroup($groupdoc.name)))
  #foreach ($mem in $groupMembers)
  #set ($userdoc = $xwiki.getDocument($mem))
  #set ($em = $userdoc.display(email,view,$mem))
  $embr
 #end
 #end
 /**END xwiki code

   
 -Original Message-
 From: users-boun...@xwiki.org [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On
 Behalf Of [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:56 AM
 To: XWiki Users
 Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] advice on wiki structure

 Hi Graham,

 If you are looking for consultancy, I am sure http://xwiki.com is the
 right place to start with.

 If you are simply asking if what you are looking for is possible with
 XWiki, I think yes. I think it is worth you take a look to Virtual
 servers
 (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/HowToSetupVirtualWikis)
 and XWiki Enterprise Manager
 (http://manager.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/).

 XWiki has a huge number of features, many of them not obvious by now
 for
 a regular user like me, that allow fine grained access control and a
 complete separation between business rules, presentation and data.

 I think we need a better understanding of the available tools and a lot
 of imagination to put things together! :-)

 Hope this helps,

 Ricardo

 creegers wrote:
 
 I'm currently trying to measure XWIKI against some business
   
 requirements; our
 
 business are basically looking for a simple WIKI that we can use to
   
 store
 
 corporate/enterprise knowledge in a single place and make available
   
 to the
 
 public via our websites and internally to our customer service
   
 agents.
 
 For a little more background to the requirements, the business is a
 financial institution that provides loan products in different
   
 countries.
 
 Each country currently has their own website (served on different
   
 domains,
 
 with no obvious links to others), customers can apply for financial
   
 products
 
 and administer their accounts through the sites, the terminology used
   
 to
 
 describe the products is the same regardless of the country, however
   
 the
 
 business rules e.g. application process, interest rates is/can be
   
 different.
 
 The business want to expose the content deemed as publicly available
   
 through
 
 a FAQ/WIKI section on each website, however they don't wish other
   
 countries
 
 content to be displayed on that website.

 Our customer service agents should be able to search the entire WIKI
   
 when
 
 dealing with customers phone enquiries, they also wish there to be
   
 more
 
 internal information available to the agents.

 I'm struggling to think of a way to achieve this using XWIKI and
   
 would be
 
 grateful of any advice.

 Thanks in advance
 Graham

   


-- 
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Re: [xwiki-users] advice on wiki structure

2008-12-11 Thread [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team
Hi Graham,

If you are looking for consultancy, I am sure http://xwiki.com is the 
right place to start with.

If you are simply asking if what you are looking for is possible with 
XWiki, I think yes. I think it is worth you take a look to Virtual 
servers (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/HowToSetupVirtualWikis) 
and XWiki Enterprise Manager 
(http://manager.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/).

XWiki has a huge number of features, many of them not obvious by now for 
a regular user like me, that allow fine grained access control and a 
complete separation between business rules, presentation and data.

I think we need a better understanding of the available tools and a lot 
of imagination to put things together! :-)

Hope this helps,

Ricardo

creegers wrote:
 I'm currently trying to measure XWIKI against some business requirements; our
 business are basically looking for a simple WIKI that we can use to store
 corporate/enterprise knowledge in a single place and make available to the
 public via our websites and internally to our customer service agents.

 For a little more background to the requirements, the business is a
 financial institution that provides loan products in different countries.
 Each country currently has their own website (served on different domains,
 with no obvious links to others), customers can apply for financial products
 and administer their accounts through the sites, the terminology used to
 describe the products is the same regardless of the country, however the
 business rules e.g. application process, interest rates is/can be different. 

 The business want to expose the content deemed as publicly available through
 a FAQ/WIKI section on each website, however they don't wish other countries
 content to be displayed on that website.

 Our customer service agents should be able to search the entire WIKI when
 dealing with customers phone enquiries, they also wish there to be more
 internal information available to the agents. 

 I'm struggling to think of a way to achieve this using XWIKI and would be
 grateful of any advice.

 Thanks in advance
 Graham
   

-- 
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Your EPEC Network ICT Team

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Re: [xwiki-users] advice on wiki structure

2008-12-11 Thread Graham Cree
Thanks for your reply Ricardo,

I had a quick look at the Virtual Servers  EM, but I figure if I setup 3
virtual wikis i.e. one for each site, I'd presumably have to replicate the
common content into each wiki - so that it will appear in the search
results, when a user searches the wiki?

One thing I'd toyed with was using a single xwiki database, then deploying 4
seperate (one for each country, and one for agents) instances of the xwiki
application that all use the same database as their source. Then if I
created seperate spaces for each country and 1 for common, the content would
all be in one place, but I still need a way to prevent spaces from being
accessible to the public users of different websites. If we used this
approach could we define a different public user for each website?

Cheers
Graham


2008/12/11 [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi Graham,

 If you are looking for consultancy, I am sure http://xwiki.com is the
 right place to start with.

 If you are simply asking if what you are looking for is possible with
 XWiki, I think yes. I think it is worth you take a look to Virtual
 servers (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/HowToSetupVirtualWikis)
 and XWiki Enterprise Manager
 (http://manager.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/).

 XWiki has a huge number of features, many of them not obvious by now for
 a regular user like me, that allow fine grained access control and a
 complete separation between business rules, presentation and data.

 I think we need a better understanding of the available tools and a lot
 of imagination to put things together! :-)

 Hope this helps,

 Ricardo

 creegers wrote:
  I'm currently trying to measure XWIKI against some business requirements;
 our
  business are basically looking for a simple WIKI that we can use to store
  corporate/enterprise knowledge in a single place and make available to
 the
  public via our websites and internally to our customer service agents.
 
  For a little more background to the requirements, the business is a
  financial institution that provides loan products in different countries.
  Each country currently has their own website (served on different
 domains,
  with no obvious links to others), customers can apply for financial
 products
  and administer their accounts through the sites, the terminology used to
  describe the products is the same regardless of the country, however the
  business rules e.g. application process, interest rates is/can be
 different.
 
  The business want to expose the content deemed as publicly available
 through
  a FAQ/WIKI section on each website, however they don't wish other
 countries
  content to be displayed on that website.
 
  Our customer service agents should be able to search the entire WIKI when
  dealing with customers phone enquiries, they also wish there to be more
  internal information available to the agents.
 
  I'm struggling to think of a way to achieve this using XWIKI and would be
  grateful of any advice.
 
  Thanks in advance
  Graham
 

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Re: [xwiki-users] advice on wiki structure

2008-12-11 Thread Thomas Mortagne
Hi,

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Graham Cree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for your reply Ricardo,

 I had a quick look at the Virtual Servers  EM, but I figure if I setup 3
 virtual wikis i.e. one for each site, I'd presumably have to replicate the
 common content into each wiki - so that it will appear in the search
 results, when a user searches the wiki?

Using Lucene search plugin you can search on all the wiks at the same
time. Look at 
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/LuceneSearch?text=lucenex=0y=0
for example.

In a wiki farm, the wikis can communicat with each other meaning
that you can link other wikis content (with the syntax: [A link on
wiki wikinamewikiname:SomeSpace;SomePage]) and you can also have
rights on a wiki for user or group from another wikis etc...


 One thing I'd toyed with was using a single xwiki database, then deploying 4
 seperate (one for each country, and one for agents) instances of the xwiki
 application that all use the same database as their source. Then if I
 created seperate spaces for each country and 1 for common, the content would
 all be in one place, but I still need a way to prevent spaces from being
 accessible to the public users of different websites. If we used this
 approach could we define a different public user for each website?

This would be difficult to do because each instance will have it's own
caches for lot's of thing so when you modify something on a instance
the other instance will be aware of that. For that you can use cache
clustering but it's really easier to user XEM for such a use case.
Plus with XEM you can easily manage he mapping between domain names
and wikis.


 Cheers
 Graham


 2008/12/11 [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi Graham,

 If you are looking for consultancy, I am sure http://xwiki.com is the
 right place to start with.

 If you are simply asking if what you are looking for is possible with
 XWiki, I think yes. I think it is worth you take a look to Virtual
 servers (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/HowToSetupVirtualWikis)
 and XWiki Enterprise Manager
 (http://manager.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/).

 XWiki has a huge number of features, many of them not obvious by now for
 a regular user like me, that allow fine grained access control and a
 complete separation between business rules, presentation and data.

 I think we need a better understanding of the available tools and a lot
 of imagination to put things together! :-)

 Hope this helps,

 Ricardo

 creegers wrote:
  I'm currently trying to measure XWIKI against some business requirements;
 our
  business are basically looking for a simple WIKI that we can use to store
  corporate/enterprise knowledge in a single place and make available to
 the
  public via our websites and internally to our customer service agents.
 
  For a little more background to the requirements, the business is a
  financial institution that provides loan products in different countries.
  Each country currently has their own website (served on different
 domains,
  with no obvious links to others), customers can apply for financial
 products
  and administer their accounts through the sites, the terminology used to
  describe the products is the same regardless of the country, however the
  business rules e.g. application process, interest rates is/can be
 different.
 
  The business want to expose the content deemed as publicly available
 through
  a FAQ/WIKI section on each website, however they don't wish other
 countries
  content to be displayed on that website.
 
  Our customer service agents should be able to search the entire WIKI when
  dealing with customers phone enquiries, they also wish there to be more
  internal information available to the agents.
 
  I'm struggling to think of a way to achieve this using XWIKI and would be
  grateful of any advice.
 
  Thanks in advance
  Graham
 

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Re: [xwiki-users] advice on wiki structure

2008-12-11 Thread Graham Cree
thanks for that, I'll do a bit more investigation into that area.

I've been carrying out a proof of concept using v1.6.1 and I had a little
play with 1.7 yesterday, the Lucene plugin you mention is the one that has
now been incorporated into xwiki?

interesting that you mention the Lucene search, the business have some other
requirements on the search which I wasn't sure would be possible. I must
confess to not knowing that much about Lucene but I'm under the impression
(from others in here) that it may be capable of the following.

   - ability to suggest words or phrases if the search detects mispelt words
   i.e. like Googles Did you mean? feature.
   - ability to handle grammar variations i.e. searching for loans would
   also return loan.
   - natural language searches e.g. How do I apply for a loan?; I'm
   assuming that this means the search will try for an exact match on this and
   then disregard the meaningless words e.g. do, i for, a etc.

I haven't seen signs of these features in xwiki's implementation of Lucene,
do you know if it could handle these?

Any comments would be appreciated.

TIA
Graham


2008/12/11 Thomas Mortagne [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi,

 On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Graham Cree [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Thanks for your reply Ricardo,
 
  I had a quick look at the Virtual Servers  EM, but I figure if I setup 3
  virtual wikis i.e. one for each site, I'd presumably have to replicate
 the
  common content into each wiki - so that it will appear in the search
  results, when a user searches the wiki?

 Using Lucene search plugin you can search on all the wiks at the same
 time. Look at
 http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/LuceneSearch?text=lucenex=0y=0
 for example.

 In a wiki farm, the wikis can communicat with each other meaning
 that you can link other wikis content (with the syntax: [A link on
 wiki wikinamewikiname:SomeSpace;SomePage]) and you can also have
 rights on a wiki for user or group from another wikis etc...

 
  One thing I'd toyed with was using a single xwiki database, then
 deploying 4
  seperate (one for each country, and one for agents) instances of the
 xwiki
  application that all use the same database as their source. Then if I
  created seperate spaces for each country and 1 for common, the content
 would
  all be in one place, but I still need a way to prevent spaces from being
  accessible to the public users of different websites. If we used this
  approach could we define a different public user for each website?

 This would be difficult to do because each instance will have it's own
 caches for lot's of thing so when you modify something on a instance
 the other instance will be aware of that. For that you can use cache
 clustering but it's really easier to user XEM for such a use case.
 Plus with XEM you can easily manage he mapping between domain names
 and wikis.

 
  Cheers
  Graham
 
 
  2008/12/11 [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Hi Graham,
 
  If you are looking for consultancy, I am sure http://xwiki.com is the
  right place to start with.
 
  If you are simply asking if what you are looking for is possible with
  XWiki, I think yes. I think it is worth you take a look to Virtual
  servers (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/HowToSetupVirtualWikis
 )
  and XWiki Enterprise Manager
  (http://manager.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/).
 
  XWiki has a huge number of features, many of them not obvious by now for
  a regular user like me, that allow fine grained access control and a
  complete separation between business rules, presentation and data.
 
  I think we need a better understanding of the available tools and a lot
  of imagination to put things together! :-)
 
  Hope this helps,
 
  Ricardo
 
  creegers wrote:
   I'm currently trying to measure XWIKI against some business
 requirements;
  our
   business are basically looking for a simple WIKI that we can use to
 store
   corporate/enterprise knowledge in a single place and make available to
  the
   public via our websites and internally to our customer service agents.
  
   For a little more background to the requirements, the business is a
   financial institution that provides loan products in different
 countries.
   Each country currently has their own website (served on different
  domains,
   with no obvious links to others), customers can apply for financial
  products
   and administer their accounts through the sites, the terminology used
 to
   describe the products is the same regardless of the country, however
 the
   business rules e.g. application process, interest rates is/can be
  different.
  
   The business want to expose the content deemed as publicly available
  through
   a FAQ/WIKI section on each website, however they don't wish other
  countries
   content to be displayed on that website.
  
   Our customer service agents should be able to search the entire WIKI
 when
   dealing with customers phone 

Re: [xwiki-users] advice on wiki structure

2008-12-11 Thread Thomas Mortagne
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Graham Cree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thanks for that, I'll do a bit more investigation into that area.

 I've been carrying out a proof of concept using v1.6.1 and I had a little
 play with 1.7 yesterday, the Lucene plugin you mention is the one that has
 now been incorporated into xwiki?

 interesting that you mention the Lucene search, the business have some other
 requirements on the search which I wasn't sure would be possible. I must
 confess to not knowing that much about Lucene but I'm under the impression
 (from others in here) that it may be capable of the following.

   - ability to suggest words or phrases if the search detects mispelt words
   i.e. like Googles Did you mean? feature.
   - ability to handle grammar variations i.e. searching for loans would
   also return loan.
   - natural language searches e.g. How do I apply for a loan?; I'm
   assuming that this means the search will try for an exact match on this and
   then disregard the meaningless words e.g. do, i for, a etc.

 I haven't seen signs of these features in xwiki's implementation of Lucene,
 do you know if it could handle these?

 Any comments would be appreciated.

As far as  I know yes it should be possible to do this using Lucene
but the the current XWiki Lucene plugin is very minimalistic, we plan
to make it standard and more powerful.


 TIA
 Graham


 2008/12/11 Thomas Mortagne [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi,

 On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Graham Cree [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Thanks for your reply Ricardo,
 
  I had a quick look at the Virtual Servers  EM, but I figure if I setup 3
  virtual wikis i.e. one for each site, I'd presumably have to replicate
 the
  common content into each wiki - so that it will appear in the search
  results, when a user searches the wiki?

 Using Lucene search plugin you can search on all the wiks at the same
 time. Look at
 http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/LuceneSearch?text=lucenex=0y=0
 for example.

 In a wiki farm, the wikis can communicat with each other meaning
 that you can link other wikis content (with the syntax: [A link on
 wiki wikinamewikiname:SomeSpace;SomePage]) and you can also have
 rights on a wiki for user or group from another wikis etc...

 
  One thing I'd toyed with was using a single xwiki database, then
 deploying 4
  seperate (one for each country, and one for agents) instances of the
 xwiki
  application that all use the same database as their source. Then if I
  created seperate spaces for each country and 1 for common, the content
 would
  all be in one place, but I still need a way to prevent spaces from being
  accessible to the public users of different websites. If we used this
  approach could we define a different public user for each website?

 This would be difficult to do because each instance will have it's own
 caches for lot's of thing so when you modify something on a instance
 the other instance will be aware of that. For that you can use cache
 clustering but it's really easier to user XEM for such a use case.
 Plus with XEM you can easily manage he mapping between domain names
 and wikis.

 
  Cheers
  Graham
 
 
  2008/12/11 [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Hi Graham,
 
  If you are looking for consultancy, I am sure http://xwiki.com is the
  right place to start with.
 
  If you are simply asking if what you are looking for is possible with
  XWiki, I think yes. I think it is worth you take a look to Virtual
  servers (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/HowToSetupVirtualWikis
 )
  and XWiki Enterprise Manager
  (http://manager.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/).
 
  XWiki has a huge number of features, many of them not obvious by now for
  a regular user like me, that allow fine grained access control and a
  complete separation between business rules, presentation and data.
 
  I think we need a better understanding of the available tools and a lot
  of imagination to put things together! :-)
 
  Hope this helps,
 
  Ricardo
 
  creegers wrote:
   I'm currently trying to measure XWIKI against some business
 requirements;
  our
   business are basically looking for a simple WIKI that we can use to
 store
   corporate/enterprise knowledge in a single place and make available to
  the
   public via our websites and internally to our customer service agents.
  
   For a little more background to the requirements, the business is a
   financial institution that provides loan products in different
 countries.
   Each country currently has their own website (served on different
  domains,
   with no obvious links to others), customers can apply for financial
  products
   and administer their accounts through the sites, the terminology used
 to
   describe the products is the same regardless of the country, however
 the
   business rules e.g. application process, interest rates is/can be
  different.
  
   The business want to expose the content deemed as publicly