Re: [xwiki-users] minimal xwiki configuration SPACES

2011-09-13 Thread Scott Serr

I have created a space Engineering.

I have changed the default space in xwiki.cfg to Engineering, this works.

A few questions:

- Is this the best way to change the default space? 
- Is there a way to change the default space per group?
- Can I effectively trap a group of users into one space?
- I can hack the theme so the logo takes you back to Engineering instead of 
Main, but is this the best way?

Thanks,
Scott


- Scott Serr se...@theserrs.net wrote:

 Vincent and Wouter -- thanks for the great responses.  I'll try to
 take your advice and tweak just a space for normal users.
 
 One thing I've identified that would be nice, but I don't know how to
 do...  I'd like the Document Metadata panel that is below the content
 panel to _not_ appear, unless someone selects Comments, Annotations,
 Attachments, History, Information in the top right corner of the
 content panel.  I think this must be possible, the reason, why else
 would there be two ways to navigate to it -- top right of content
 _and_ tabs on meta panel.  (I'm aware of turning off each Doc Metadata
 tab from the Page Elements... but I don't want them off, just not
 expanded out.)
 
 ^ That would simplify the look quite a bit.
 
 I've started some notes so I can reproduce what I'm doing at some
 point:  (scripting myself)
 
 Create a new group Wiki Users
 Create some users as Wiki Users
 Login as them to see what a non-admin sees
 Probably have 2 different browsers to keep flipping back and forth
 Create a new Space, one which will be the normal user's default
 Keep default skin so you don't stray from supported world
 Go to Administer Wiki - Look  Feel
 Presentation you can change the color of the default skin
 Page Elements - turn off left panel, turn on right panel, etc
 Panel Wizard - choose what you want in the right panel
 
 There are more things I'd like to do:
 Backlinks has redundant pages something like  | sort | uniq is
 needed.  A bug?
 Add Search in right panel and remove X-WIKI header of page.  Header
 must be somewhere in the skin?
 
 Thanks guys -- I hope to help out with the minimal config page.
 
 
 - Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote:
 
  Hi Guillaume,
 
  On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Guillaume Fenollar wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   Finally, I think it would be great to have some available .xar
  packages to
   download, not only one. It would give us the choice to build xwiki
  according
   to the features we're looking for.
 
  What you're talking about is the Exension Manager ;)
 
  … which already exists and which you can try in XE 3.2 (it's missing
 a
  nice UI but the features are there). We need the max # of people to
  try it out and report issue if any.
 
  Thanks
  -Vincent
 
  
   Regards
  
   Guillaume
  
   2011/9/8 Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net
  
   Hi Wouter,
  
   On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
  
   Hi Vincent,
  
   Sounds like a good plan to me, since it will make Xwiki more
 easy
  to use
   for
   content managers with no coding background, it will lower the
  treshold
   for
   people wanting to use xwiki.
  
   Xwiki is great, no question, but it offers so many possibilities
  that for
   people like me who focus primarily on content management and
  usability
   and
   are by no means PHP and JAVA geniuses, it tends to get a bit
  complicated.
  
   IMO approach 2) is to be preferred because of the same reason
 you
  stated
   allready.
   Maybe we can collect ideas on stripping down over the userlist,
  sort
   them,
   and use them to create the guide?
  
   yep that's the idea.
  
   Is there a standard layout for guides like this allready?
  
   No but the guide could be put in the Admi Guide ultimately:
   http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/
  
   Now the practice is to start writing this stripping down guide in
  the draft
   section and as soon as it contains something we judge nice enough
  to move it
   to the final location (AdminGuide):
   http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
  
   Because then we would create it accordingly.
  
   Great. Feel free to create a page in the Draft space:
   http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
  
   Thanks
   -Vincent
  
   Thanks for the thoughts,
  
   Wouter
  
  
   On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Vincent Massol
  vinc...@massol.net
   wrote:
  
   Hi guys,
  
   It would be nice to have a guide on xwiki.org about this topic
  of
   stripping the default XE.
  
   Basically you have 2 approaches:
   1) Don't import the default XE XAR (ie you start with an empty
  wiki, no
   pages)
   2) Start with the default XE XAR and make modifications to it
  
   Choosing 1) or 2) really depends if 2) is close to what you
 need
  or not.
   Choosing 2) is the easiest though since it's easier to remove
  things
   than
   to create new stuff from nothing :)
  
   If you can tell us what you don't want, we could maybe tell you
  how to
   turn
   them off/make them disappear.
  
   Once we figure out together 

Re: [xwiki-users] minimal xwiki configuration

2011-09-08 Thread Wouter de Vos
Hi Scott,
I am not aware of a Strip down Guide but I had the same issue here.

What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in which I
created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more.
This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and look at the
panel wizard.
Here you can edit panels and place them accordingly in your layout.
You should be aware of the fact that the users go to the main wiki
(non-enduser in your case) by clicking the logo, you might want to change
this, the same goes for the displayed search results.
You can also predefine if endusers should see the Comment box at the bottom
of the page or not, etc.

IMO the great thing of Xwiki is exactly this, you are in total control of
what the endusers can see and are allowed to do.

I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions please feel free to let
me know.

Kind regards and good luck,

Wouter



On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Scott Serr se...@theserrs.net wrote:


 I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki
 configuration, at least for end users.  The default xwiki UI is pretty
 complex.

 I'd like users to see this:
 content (edit, print)
 search box
 minimal side bar
 backlinks
 (and not much more)

 Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees to the bare
 essentials?

 Thanks,
 Scott
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Re: [xwiki-users] minimal xwiki configuration

2011-09-08 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi guys,

It would be nice to have a guide on xwiki.org about this topic of stripping the 
default XE.

Basically you have 2 approaches:
1) Don't import the default XE XAR (ie you start with an empty wiki, no pages)
2) Start with the default XE XAR and make modifications to it

Choosing 1) or 2) really depends if 2) is close to what you need or not.
Choosing 2) is the easiest though since it's easier to remove things than to 
create new stuff from nothing :)

If you can tell us what you don't want, we could maybe tell you how to turn 
them off/make them disappear.

Once we figure out together how to remove stuff, would be great if you guys 
could start a guide on xwiki.org about how to remove stuff and stip down xwiki!

Thanks
-Vincent

On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:

 Hi Scott,
 I am not aware of a Strip down Guide but I had the same issue here.
 
 What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in which I
 created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more.
 This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and look at the
 panel wizard.
 Here you can edit panels and place them accordingly in your layout.
 You should be aware of the fact that the users go to the main wiki
 (non-enduser in your case) by clicking the logo, you might want to change
 this, the same goes for the displayed search results.
 You can also predefine if endusers should see the Comment box at the bottom
 of the page or not, etc.
 
 IMO the great thing of Xwiki is exactly this, you are in total control of
 what the endusers can see and are allowed to do.
 
 I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions please feel free to let
 me know.
 
 Kind regards and good luck,
 
 Wouter
 
 
 
 On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Scott Serr se...@theserrs.net wrote:
 
 
 I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki
 configuration, at least for end users.  The default xwiki UI is pretty
 complex.
 
 I'd like users to see this:
 content (edit, print)
 search box
 minimal side bar
 backlinks
 (and not much more)
 
 Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees to the bare
 essentials?
 
 Thanks,
 Scott
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Re: [xwiki-users] minimal xwiki configuration

2011-09-08 Thread Wouter de Vos
Hi Vincent,

Sounds like a good plan to me, since it will make Xwiki more easy to use for
content managers with no coding background, it will lower the treshold for
people wanting to use xwiki.

Xwiki is great, no question, but it offers so many possibilities that for
people like me who focus primarily on content management and usability and
are by no means PHP and JAVA geniuses, it tends to get a bit complicated.

IMO approach 2) is to be preferred because of the same reason you stated
allready.
Maybe we can collect ideas on stripping down over the userlist, sort them,
and use them to create the guide?

Is there a standard layout for guides like this allready?
Because then we would create it accordingly.

Thanks for the thoughts,

Wouter


On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote:

 Hi guys,

 It would be nice to have a guide on xwiki.org about this topic of
 stripping the default XE.

 Basically you have 2 approaches:
 1) Don't import the default XE XAR (ie you start with an empty wiki, no
 pages)
 2) Start with the default XE XAR and make modifications to it

 Choosing 1) or 2) really depends if 2) is close to what you need or not.
 Choosing 2) is the easiest though since it's easier to remove things than
 to create new stuff from nothing :)

 If you can tell us what you don't want, we could maybe tell you how to turn
 them off/make them disappear.

 Once we figure out together how to remove stuff, would be great if you guys
 could start a guide on xwiki.org about how to remove stuff and stip down
 xwiki!

 Thanks
 -Vincent

 On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:

  Hi Scott,
  I am not aware of a Strip down Guide but I had the same issue here.
 
  What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in which I
  created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more.
  This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and look at
 the
  panel wizard.
  Here you can edit panels and place them accordingly in your layout.
  You should be aware of the fact that the users go to the main wiki
  (non-enduser in your case) by clicking the logo, you might want to change
  this, the same goes for the displayed search results.
  You can also predefine if endusers should see the Comment box at the
 bottom
  of the page or not, etc.
 
  IMO the great thing of Xwiki is exactly this, you are in total control of
  what the endusers can see and are allowed to do.
 
  I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions please feel free to
 let
  me know.
 
  Kind regards and good luck,
 
  Wouter
 
 
 
  On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Scott Serr se...@theserrs.net wrote:
 
 
  I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki
  configuration, at least for end users.  The default xwiki UI is pretty
  complex.
 
  I'd like users to see this:
  content (edit, print)
  search box
  minimal side bar
  backlinks
  (and not much more)
 
  Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees to the
 bare
  essentials?
 
  Thanks,
  Scott
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Re: [xwiki-users] minimal xwiki configuration

2011-09-08 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi Wouter,

On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:

 Hi Vincent,
 
 Sounds like a good plan to me, since it will make Xwiki more easy to use for
 content managers with no coding background, it will lower the treshold for
 people wanting to use xwiki.
 
 Xwiki is great, no question, but it offers so many possibilities that for
 people like me who focus primarily on content management and usability and
 are by no means PHP and JAVA geniuses, it tends to get a bit complicated.
 
 IMO approach 2) is to be preferred because of the same reason you stated
 allready.
 Maybe we can collect ideas on stripping down over the userlist, sort them,
 and use them to create the guide?

yep that's the idea.

 Is there a standard layout for guides like this allready?

No but the guide could be put in the Admi Guide ultimately:
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/

Now the practice is to start writing this stripping down guide in the draft 
section and as soon as it contains something we judge nice enough to move it to 
the final location (AdminGuide):
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/

 Because then we would create it accordingly.

Great. Feel free to create a page in the Draft space: 
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/

Thanks
-Vincent

 Thanks for the thoughts,
 
 Wouter
 
 
 On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote:
 
 Hi guys,
 
 It would be nice to have a guide on xwiki.org about this topic of
 stripping the default XE.
 
 Basically you have 2 approaches:
 1) Don't import the default XE XAR (ie you start with an empty wiki, no
 pages)
 2) Start with the default XE XAR and make modifications to it
 
 Choosing 1) or 2) really depends if 2) is close to what you need or not.
 Choosing 2) is the easiest though since it's easier to remove things than
 to create new stuff from nothing :)
 
 If you can tell us what you don't want, we could maybe tell you how to turn
 them off/make them disappear.
 
 Once we figure out together how to remove stuff, would be great if you guys
 could start a guide on xwiki.org about how to remove stuff and stip down
 xwiki!
 
 Thanks
 -Vincent
 
 On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
 
 Hi Scott,
 I am not aware of a Strip down Guide but I had the same issue here.
 
 What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in which I
 created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more.
 This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and look at
 the
 panel wizard.
 Here you can edit panels and place them accordingly in your layout.
 You should be aware of the fact that the users go to the main wiki
 (non-enduser in your case) by clicking the logo, you might want to change
 this, the same goes for the displayed search results.
 You can also predefine if endusers should see the Comment box at the
 bottom
 of the page or not, etc.
 
 IMO the great thing of Xwiki is exactly this, you are in total control of
 what the endusers can see and are allowed to do.
 
 I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions please feel free to
 let
 me know.
 
 Kind regards and good luck,
 
 Wouter
 
 
 
 On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Scott Serr se...@theserrs.net wrote:
 
 
 I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki
 configuration, at least for end users.  The default xwiki UI is pretty
 complex.
 
 I'd like users to see this:
 content (edit, print)
 search box
 minimal side bar
 backlinks
 (and not much more)
 
 Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees to the
 bare
 essentials?
 
 Thanks,
 Scott
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Re: [xwiki-users] minimal xwiki configuration

2011-09-08 Thread Guillaume Fenollar
Hi,

Finally, I think it would be great to have some available .xar packages to
download, not only one. It would give us the choice to build xwiki according
to the features we're looking for.

Regards

Guillaume

2011/9/8 Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net

 Hi Wouter,

 On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:

  Hi Vincent,
 
  Sounds like a good plan to me, since it will make Xwiki more easy to use
 for
  content managers with no coding background, it will lower the treshold
 for
  people wanting to use xwiki.
 
  Xwiki is great, no question, but it offers so many possibilities that for
  people like me who focus primarily on content management and usability
 and
  are by no means PHP and JAVA geniuses, it tends to get a bit complicated.
 
  IMO approach 2) is to be preferred because of the same reason you stated
  allready.
  Maybe we can collect ideas on stripping down over the userlist, sort
 them,
  and use them to create the guide?

 yep that's the idea.

  Is there a standard layout for guides like this allready?

 No but the guide could be put in the Admi Guide ultimately:
 http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/

 Now the practice is to start writing this stripping down guide in the draft
 section and as soon as it contains something we judge nice enough to move it
 to the final location (AdminGuide):
 http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/

  Because then we would create it accordingly.

 Great. Feel free to create a page in the Draft space:
 http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/

 Thanks
 -Vincent

  Thanks for the thoughts,
 
  Wouter
 
 
  On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net
 wrote:
 
  Hi guys,
 
  It would be nice to have a guide on xwiki.org about this topic of
  stripping the default XE.
 
  Basically you have 2 approaches:
  1) Don't import the default XE XAR (ie you start with an empty wiki, no
  pages)
  2) Start with the default XE XAR and make modifications to it
 
  Choosing 1) or 2) really depends if 2) is close to what you need or not.
  Choosing 2) is the easiest though since it's easier to remove things
 than
  to create new stuff from nothing :)
 
  If you can tell us what you don't want, we could maybe tell you how to
 turn
  them off/make them disappear.
 
  Once we figure out together how to remove stuff, would be great if you
 guys
  could start a guide on xwiki.org about how to remove stuff and stip
 down
  xwiki!
 
  Thanks
  -Vincent
 
  On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
 
  Hi Scott,
  I am not aware of a Strip down Guide but I had the same issue here.
 
  What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in which I
  created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more.
  This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and look at
  the
  panel wizard.
  Here you can edit panels and place them accordingly in your layout.
  You should be aware of the fact that the users go to the main wiki
  (non-enduser in your case) by clicking the logo, you might want to
 change
  this, the same goes for the displayed search results.
  You can also predefine if endusers should see the Comment box at the
  bottom
  of the page or not, etc.
 
  IMO the great thing of Xwiki is exactly this, you are in total control
 of
  what the endusers can see and are allowed to do.
 
  I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions please feel free to
  let
  me know.
 
  Kind regards and good luck,
 
  Wouter
 
 
 
  On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Scott Serr se...@theserrs.net
 wrote:
 
 
  I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki
  configuration, at least for end users.  The default xwiki UI is pretty
  complex.
 
  I'd like users to see this:
  content (edit, print)
  search box
  minimal side bar
  backlinks
  (and not much more)
 
  Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees to the
  bare
  essentials?
 
  Thanks,
  Scott
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Re: [xwiki-users] minimal xwiki configuration

2011-09-08 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi Guillaume,

On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Guillaume Fenollar wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Finally, I think it would be great to have some available .xar packages to
 download, not only one. It would give us the choice to build xwiki according
 to the features we're looking for.

What you're talking about is the Exension Manager ;)

… which already exists and which you can try in XE 3.2 (it's missing a nice UI 
but the features are there). We need the max # of people to try it out and 
report issue if any.

Thanks
-Vincent

 
 Regards
 
 Guillaume
 
 2011/9/8 Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net
 
 Hi Wouter,
 
 On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
 
 Hi Vincent,
 
 Sounds like a good plan to me, since it will make Xwiki more easy to use
 for
 content managers with no coding background, it will lower the treshold
 for
 people wanting to use xwiki.
 
 Xwiki is great, no question, but it offers so many possibilities that for
 people like me who focus primarily on content management and usability
 and
 are by no means PHP and JAVA geniuses, it tends to get a bit complicated.
 
 IMO approach 2) is to be preferred because of the same reason you stated
 allready.
 Maybe we can collect ideas on stripping down over the userlist, sort
 them,
 and use them to create the guide?
 
 yep that's the idea.
 
 Is there a standard layout for guides like this allready?
 
 No but the guide could be put in the Admi Guide ultimately:
 http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/
 
 Now the practice is to start writing this stripping down guide in the draft
 section and as soon as it contains something we judge nice enough to move it
 to the final location (AdminGuide):
 http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
 
 Because then we would create it accordingly.
 
 Great. Feel free to create a page in the Draft space:
 http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
 
 Thanks
 -Vincent
 
 Thanks for the thoughts,
 
 Wouter
 
 
 On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net
 wrote:
 
 Hi guys,
 
 It would be nice to have a guide on xwiki.org about this topic of
 stripping the default XE.
 
 Basically you have 2 approaches:
 1) Don't import the default XE XAR (ie you start with an empty wiki, no
 pages)
 2) Start with the default XE XAR and make modifications to it
 
 Choosing 1) or 2) really depends if 2) is close to what you need or not.
 Choosing 2) is the easiest though since it's easier to remove things
 than
 to create new stuff from nothing :)
 
 If you can tell us what you don't want, we could maybe tell you how to
 turn
 them off/make them disappear.
 
 Once we figure out together how to remove stuff, would be great if you
 guys
 could start a guide on xwiki.org about how to remove stuff and stip
 down
 xwiki!
 
 Thanks
 -Vincent
 
 On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
 
 Hi Scott,
 I am not aware of a Strip down Guide but I had the same issue here.
 
 What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in which I
 created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more.
 This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and look at
 the
 panel wizard.
 Here you can edit panels and place them accordingly in your layout.
 You should be aware of the fact that the users go to the main wiki
 (non-enduser in your case) by clicking the logo, you might want to
 change
 this, the same goes for the displayed search results.
 You can also predefine if endusers should see the Comment box at the
 bottom
 of the page or not, etc.
 
 IMO the great thing of Xwiki is exactly this, you are in total control
 of
 what the endusers can see and are allowed to do.
 
 I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions please feel free to
 let
 me know.
 
 Kind regards and good luck,
 
 Wouter
 
 
 
 On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Scott Serr se...@theserrs.net
 wrote:
 
 
 I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki
 configuration, at least for end users.  The default xwiki UI is pretty
 complex.
 
 I'd like users to see this:
 content (edit, print)
 search box
 minimal side bar
 backlinks
 (and not much more)
 
 Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees to the
 bare
 essentials?
 
 Thanks,
 Scott
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Re: [xwiki-users] minimal xwiki configuration

2011-09-08 Thread Scott Serr
Vincent and Wouter -- thanks for the great responses.  I'll try to take your 
advice and tweak just a space for normal users.

One thing I've identified that would be nice, but I don't know how to do...  
I'd like the Document Metadata panel that is below the content panel to _not_ 
appear, unless someone selects Comments, Annotations, Attachments, History, 
Information in the top right corner of the content panel.  I think this must be 
possible, the reason, why else would there be two ways to navigate to it -- top 
right of content _and_ tabs on meta panel.  (I'm aware of turning off each Doc 
Metadata tab from the Page Elements... but I don't want them off, just not 
expanded out.)

^ That would simplify the look quite a bit.

I've started some notes so I can reproduce what I'm doing at some point:  
(scripting myself)

Create a new group Wiki Users
Create some users as Wiki Users
Login as them to see what a non-admin sees
Probably have 2 different browsers to keep flipping back and forth
Create a new Space, one which will be the normal user's default
Keep default skin so you don't stray from supported world
Go to Administer Wiki - Look  Feel
Presentation you can change the color of the default skin
Page Elements - turn off left panel, turn on right panel, etc
Panel Wizard - choose what you want in the right panel

There are more things I'd like to do:
Backlinks has redundant pages something like  | sort | uniq is needed.  A bug?
Add Search in right panel and remove X-WIKI header of page.  Header must be 
somewhere in the skin?

Thanks guys -- I hope to help out with the minimal config page.


- Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote:

 Hi Guillaume,
 
 On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Guillaume Fenollar wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  Finally, I think it would be great to have some available .xar
 packages to
  download, not only one. It would give us the choice to build xwiki
 according
  to the features we're looking for.
 
 What you're talking about is the Exension Manager ;)
 
 … which already exists and which you can try in XE 3.2 (it's missing a
 nice UI but the features are there). We need the max # of people to
 try it out and report issue if any.
 
 Thanks
 -Vincent
 
  
  Regards
  
  Guillaume
  
  2011/9/8 Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net
  
  Hi Wouter,
  
  On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
  
  Hi Vincent,
  
  Sounds like a good plan to me, since it will make Xwiki more easy
 to use
  for
  content managers with no coding background, it will lower the
 treshold
  for
  people wanting to use xwiki.
  
  Xwiki is great, no question, but it offers so many possibilities
 that for
  people like me who focus primarily on content management and
 usability
  and
  are by no means PHP and JAVA geniuses, it tends to get a bit
 complicated.
  
  IMO approach 2) is to be preferred because of the same reason you
 stated
  allready.
  Maybe we can collect ideas on stripping down over the userlist,
 sort
  them,
  and use them to create the guide?
  
  yep that's the idea.
  
  Is there a standard layout for guides like this allready?
  
  No but the guide could be put in the Admi Guide ultimately:
  http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/
  
  Now the practice is to start writing this stripping down guide in
 the draft
  section and as soon as it contains something we judge nice enough
 to move it
  to the final location (AdminGuide):
  http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
  
  Because then we would create it accordingly.
  
  Great. Feel free to create a page in the Draft space:
  http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
  
  Thanks
  -Vincent
  
  Thanks for the thoughts,
  
  Wouter
  
  
  On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Vincent Massol
 vinc...@massol.net
  wrote:
  
  Hi guys,
  
  It would be nice to have a guide on xwiki.org about this topic
 of
  stripping the default XE.
  
  Basically you have 2 approaches:
  1) Don't import the default XE XAR (ie you start with an empty
 wiki, no
  pages)
  2) Start with the default XE XAR and make modifications to it
  
  Choosing 1) or 2) really depends if 2) is close to what you need
 or not.
  Choosing 2) is the easiest though since it's easier to remove
 things
  than
  to create new stuff from nothing :)
  
  If you can tell us what you don't want, we could maybe tell you
 how to
  turn
  them off/make them disappear.
  
  Once we figure out together how to remove stuff, would be great
 if you
  guys
  could start a guide on xwiki.org about how to remove stuff and
 stip
  down
  xwiki!
  
  Thanks
  -Vincent
  
  On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
  
  Hi Scott,
  I am not aware of a Strip down Guide but I had the same issue
 here.
  
  What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in
 which I
  created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more.
  This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and
 look at
  the
  panel wizard.
  Here you can edit panels and place them