[USMA:50914] RE: Ditch the viss, govt urges traders

2011-07-25 Thread Martin Vlietstra
Even dictatorships have problems and as long as they give the ordinary people bread and circuses, they remain in power. When South Africa adopted a decimal currency in 1961, they went to great lengths to ensure that there was no profiteering. As a result, decimalisation was accepted by the

[USMA:50915] Metrication of air travel

2011-07-25 Thread Michael GLASS
Dear USMA, I wrote to our civil aviation safety authority as follows: I note that the safety rules are drawn up in feet while all Australian maps are now in metres. This is obviously a safety issue because the training manual for hot air ballooning warns, Watch out – aviation charts and

[USMA:50916] Re: Metrication of air travel

2011-07-25 Thread Michael Payne
I believe the foot for aviation was pushed on the world after the World War 2. But now that everyone but the US and partially the UK has converted to metres it would be great if the Europeans pushed for meters in Europe, just the Reduced vertical separation at altitude it would in 10-20 years

[USMA:50917] Re: Metrication of air travel

2011-07-25 Thread John Frewen-Lord
For many years, the USA had by far the largest air travel market in the world, and so could call all the shots. That is no longer true. The rest of the world could bring together the following factors, if it so chose, to effect a change in the not too distant future: 1. The air travel market

[USMA:50918] Re: Metrication of air travel

2011-07-25 Thread John M. Steele
Russia, China, Mongolia, North Korea, and the CIS states currently have metric-airspace.  All the satellite nations that wanted to lean European switched to feet. Separations are 1000' or 300 m (in opposite directions) The airliners that fly those routes have glass cockpits.  Their biggest

[USMA:50919] Re: Metrication of air travel

2011-07-25 Thread Martin Vlietstra
Whatever the merits of a change, one needs to think of the logistics of implementing the change, particularly in Western Europe where the skies are very crowded. It would have to be a big-bang change with a period of total air closure for safety reasons. -Original Message- From:

[USMA:50920] RE: Ditch the viss, govt urges traders

2011-07-25 Thread ezra . steinberg
I wonder how USMA could assist Burma in their metrication efforts? -- Ezra - Original Message - From: Martin Vlietstra vliets...@btinternet.com To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 11:10:57 PM Subject: [USMA:50914] RE: Ditch the viss, govt

[USMA:50921] RE: Ditch the viss, govt urges traders

2011-07-25 Thread John M. Steele
From the State Dept.'s Burma page, I would guess we have a pretty strained relationship with Burma (scroll down to US sanctions). http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1077.html  I doubt we can help or that our help would be welcome. While the US does not forbid Americans to travel

[USMA:50922] RE: Ditch the viss, govt urges traders

2011-07-25 Thread Paul Trusten
...by working to achieve U.S. metrication first! Any prevalence of pre-metric units in the world has to be related to our continued use of them. Paul Trusten Midland, Texas United States +1(432)528-7724 trus...@grandecom.net On Jul 25, 2011, at 16:57, ezra.steinb...@comcast.net wrote: I

[USMA:50923] Re: MPGe = miles per gallon equivalent?

2011-07-25 Thread John M. Steele
At the very bottom, please double-check your joule example.  Taking a cup of coffee as about 150 mL or 150 g, and specific heat of water as 4.2 J/(g·K), I get around 630 J, not 1 J, from 1 K of cooling.  (that's using the coffee institute's official coffee cup, mine is about 400 mL). NOTE: A

[USMA:50924] Re: MPGe = miles per gallon equivalent?

2011-07-25 Thread John M. Steele
Yes, but 1 Nm (and your small apple example) represent 1 J.  Your 240 mL cup of coffee cooling 1 K represents 1 kJ, not 1 J as described.  The issue is not really the 150 mL vs 240 mL but the factor of 1000. I am perhaps a little worried that thousands have not noticed the factor of 1000.