I think that’s an excellent idea! (Disclosure: I grew up in Australia, where it 
became illegal to use non-decimal measurements for commercial purposes in 
1972—6 years after they got rid of non-decimal currency). One day I will 
ventilate over my difficulty of having to revert to ounces, furlongs and 
leagues!

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>   1. [USMA 764] Let's call it the Decimal System (Parker Willey Jr.)
>   2. [USMA 765] 1 implication of 1848 treaty: all public entities
>      cannot shove foot/pound and must use international date standard
>      (year/month/day or day/month/year) especially when customer wants
>      it (gct)
>   3. [USMA 766] Still Valerie (John Dunlop)
> 
> From: "Parker Willey Jr." <pawil...@pacbell.net>
> Subject: [USMA 764] Let's call it the Decimal System
> Date: April 6, 2018 at 5:15:25 PM EDT
> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@lists.colostate.edu>
> Reply-To: "Parker Willey Jr." <pawil...@pacbell.net>
> 
> 
> 
> Hi:
> 
> I was thinking the other day that some people think the word "metric" is 
> foreign.  That could be one of the monkey wrenches that keeps our country 
> mostly using legacy measures.
> 
> So, since we use a decimal system of coinage, I propose that we call the 
> metric system of weights and measures simpl;y the "Decimal" system of weights 
> and measures.  That is what it is!
> In the United States, We can retain all the labels like liter, kilometer, 
> meter, millimeter, hectare. etc.
> 
> Now, think:  The "Decimal" system of weights and measures.
> Does that sound OK?
> 
> ...Parker Willey Jr.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: gct <nodextr...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [USMA 765] 1 implication of 1848 treaty: all public entities cannot 
> shove foot/pound and must use international date standard (year/month/day or 
> day/month/year) especially when customer wants it
> Date: April 7, 2018 at 2:38:35 AM EDT
> To: usma@lists.colostate.edu
> 
> 
> In the case of California and the other states acquired from Mexico after 
> 1848, the US promised to respect the culture of the people who were already 
> living there. The people did not use foot/pound, they used other units than 
> foot/pound and the international date standard (year/month/day or 
> day/month/year).
> I don't know what units of temperature they used, I think they used celsius, 
> they did not use fahrenheit.
> I think requiring public entities to use metric international date standard 
> (year/month/day or day/month/year), especially when customer wants it, is an 
> acceptable compromise.
> For ex, it should be illegal for dmv to only issue ids in non-metric.
> 
> I wonder what tribal lands, which are native american sovereign think about 
> this.
> we need a simple law:
> in any transaction, if 1 party asks it to be conducted in metric, the 
> transaction should be conducted in metric. The offended party should get the 
> right to sue the offender, who refuses to conduct the transaction in metric 
> for > $10000/transaction indexed to inflation.
> All high schools should teach the metric system at least 2 years before 
> exposing children to the lunatic foot/pound system.
> All laws should be expressed in the metric system.
> All communications that receive public funding should be expressed in the 
> metric system.
> 
> we need a system of measurement that recognizes that units of mass, length 
> and energy are related:
> the unit of energy would be defined as the kinetic energy of 2 units of mass 
> moving at a speed of 1 unit of length/sec (at non-relativistic speeds)
> A short introduction to the metric system is available on 
> (http://www.balancedcities.org search for metric system)
> Einstein's famous equation, E = m x c^2 works only in metric: m is in Kg, c = 
> 3 x 10^8 m/s , E = energy in joules, 1 wh = 3600 (watt-sec or joules).
> Thus in the metric system, 1 Kg of matter that gets completely converted into 
> energy, would generate 9 x 10^16 Joules or (9 x 10^16/3600000) = 25 x 10^9 KWH
> To apply Einstein's famous equation in non-metric units, the unit of energy 
> would be defined as the kinetic energy of 2 units of mass moving at a speed 
> of 1 unit of length/sec and the speed of light in vacuum expressed in units 
> of length/sec.
> Since we already have 1 Volt x 1 Amp x 1 sec = 1 Joule of electrical energy, 
> for non-metric units, you would have to define another obscure unit of energy.
> 
> If metric customers and those who prefer the international date standard 
> (year/month/day or day/month/year) are not accommodated in these states, the 
> US would be violating the treaty.
> Also metric citizens are also taxpayers that support public employees. When 
> they request that a transaction should in metric units and in the 
> international date standard (year/month/day or day/month/year), they must be 
> accommodated.
> Otherwise, the statement on NIST web site affirming the national policy to 
> establish the SI (International System of Units, commonly known as the metric 
> system) as the preferred system of weights and measures for U.S. trade and 
> commerce(http://www.nist.gov/pml/wmd/metric/metric-program.cfm) is a joke!!
> Sec. 204. Metric system authorized:
> It shall be lawful throughout the United States of America to employ the 
> weights and measures of the metric system; and no contract or dealing, or 
> pleading in any court, shall be deemed invalid or liable to objection because 
> the weights or measures expressed or referred to therein are weights or 
> measures of the metric system
> The use of the metric system made legal in the United States by the Metric 
> Act of 1866 (Public Law 39-183). This law made it unlawful to refuse to trade 
> or deal in metric quantities.
> (http://www.us-metric.org/metric-act-of-1866 , 
> http://www.us-metric.org/metric-conversion-act-of-1975)
> 
> 1 more reason to dump the stupid moronic idiotic foot/pound system and switch 
> to metric:
> NASA lost a 125 million Mars orbiter because 1 engineering team used metric 
> units while another used English units for a key spacecraft operation
> http://www.cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/30/mars.metric.02
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter 
> http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter
> http://www.us-metric.org/unit-mixups
> http://www.us-metric.org/metrication-in-other-countries
> 
> i don't like the date format with day in middle. In mathematics, i write 
> numbers most significant -> least significant
> i like option of international date standard (year/month/day or 
> day/month/year)
> date format all numbers with day in middle is never used in canada, australia 
> or uk !!
> check iso date standard
> ISO 8601 was prepared by, and is under the direct responsibility of, ISO 
> Technical Committee TC 154. ISO 2014, though superseded, is the standard that 
> originally introduced the all-numeric date notation in 
> most-to-least-significant order [YYYY]-[MM]-[DD].
> http://www.iso.org/iso-8601-date-and-time-format.html
> http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/iso-date
> 
> international date standard (year/month/day or day/month/year) is used in 
> email headers, text messages headers, by some companies such as kraft/heinz
> 
> in the bash shell:
> date '+DATE:%Y %b %d %a  TIME:%H:%M:%S'  or date "+%Y %m %d  %H:%M:%S" gives 
> date/time in international date standard
> 
> if you put in .emacs:
> (setq display-time-day-and-date t
>      display-time-24hr-format t
>  display-time-format "%Y %B %d (%A) %R")
> (display-time)
> emacs will display date/time in international date standard format
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: John Dunlop <jrdun...@igc.org>
> Subject: [USMA 766] Still Valerie
> Date: April 7, 2018 at 10:43:28 AM EDT
> To: "Hillger,Donald" <don.hill...@colostate.edu>, Martin Morrison 
> <c...@traditio.com>, USMA List Server <usma@lists.colostate.edu>
> 
> 
> Happy Birthday, Valerie Antoine!
> 
> My wife, Susan, and I were recently able to have dinner with Valerie and her 
> husband, Al, near their home in Northridge, CA, to celebrate her birthday.  
> She turns 103 today.  Valerie and Lorelle Young did a double-team to lead the 
> U.S. Metric Association as Louis Sokol gradually stepped away from his roles 
> as President and administrator of USMA and editor of the USMA Newsletter, 
> beginning in 1986.  Lorelle became President and Valerie became the Executive 
> Director of the association and Lou continued as editor.  Valerie became full 
> editor of the newsletter in 1992.  Lou contributed editorial content until he 
> passed away in October of 1996.  I have been familiar with all three of the 
> leaders mentioned, as I have been a member of USMA since 1972 and served on 
> the Board of Directors.  Don Hillger became President editor of the 
> newsletter  -- and holder of the archived USMA records -- in 2010, so Valerie 
> was executive director for over 18 years.
> 
> Valerie and Al shared some fascinating details about their early lives and 
> their 66 years of marriage.  Little known is that Valerie joined her father 
> as the pianist at age 12 as they played for large ballroom dances held during 
> the depression back in Illinois -- they were the primary wage-earners for 
> their family during that time.  Al survived harrowing experiences as a very 
> young paratrooper landing on Normandy Beach and other targets during World 
> War II.
> 
> The U.S. Metric Association has been a champion of the use the metric system 
> (or the "Decimal System" of weights and measures, as Parker Willey suggests) 
> for over a century.  Valerie was already one year old when our association 
> began.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
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> John Dunlop
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