Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis

2023-01-27 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 1/27/23 1:43 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: But but I don't see how this is relevant to the security of certificate validation. If the application wants to authenticate "☕.example", it matches the A-label form to the certificate. Perhaps it should have refused to communicate with "☕.example",

Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis

2023-01-27 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On 26/1/2023 7:58 pm, Rob Sayre wrote: For instance, ☕.example becomes xn--53h.example and not failure. [UTS46] [RFC5890]" Yes, thus, for example, Postfix via libicu (my terminal doesn't actually display "☕", but it was part of the input argument anyway): $ posttls-finger "☕.example"

Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis

2023-01-27 Thread Rob Sayre
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 11:16 AM Rob Sayre wrote: > Hi, > > I'm a little confused as well, but the character is covered in recent > UTS-46 test suites. I looked at this one: > https://www.unicode.org/Public/idna/15.0.0/ > > I tried to read all of UTS-46, but it made me want to throw my computer

Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis

2023-01-27 Thread Rob Sayre
gt; what it is trying to convey. > > > > Thanks, > > Corey > > > > > > *From:* Rob Sayre > *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2023 7:58 PM > *To:* Corey Bonnell > *Cc:* Peter Saint-Andre ; uta@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc612

Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis

2023-01-27 Thread John Levine
It appears that Corey Bonnell said: >Thanks for the pointer to this text. It is a very interesting statement, >mainly because the illustrative example does not align >with the first sentence. The A-label “xn--53h” contains a single code point >“Hot Beverage” U+2615. This code point was >first

Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis

2023-01-27 Thread Corey Bonnell
ndre ; uta@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis Hi, I'll firstly treat this message as a signal of rough consensus, since I totally agree with what you phrased as "operational reality". But, I must note that the WHATWG document you linked* has a gre

Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis

2023-01-26 Thread Rob Sayre
icode.org/reports/tr46/#Mapping > > > > *From:* Rob Sayre > *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2023 4:59 PM > *To:* Peter Saint-Andre > *Cc:* Corey Bonnell ; uta@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis > > > > > > &g

Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis

2023-01-26 Thread Corey Bonnell
: Rob Sayre Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 4:59 PM To: Peter Saint-Andre Cc: Corey Bonnell ; uta@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 1:39 PM Peter Saint-Andre mailto:stpe...@stpeter.im> > wrote: On 1/26/23 2:28 PM, Rob

Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis

2023-01-26 Thread Rob Sayre
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 1:39 PM Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 1/26/23 2:28 PM, Rob Sayre wrote: > > Since you phrased your message as a question, I will answer. I don't > know. > > > > But what the draft says also does not align with your last check. > > How so? The draft currently makes no

Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis

2023-01-26 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 1/26/23 2:28 PM, Rob Sayre wrote: Since you phrased your message as a question, I will answer. I don't know. But what the draft says also does not align with your last check. How so? The draft currently makes no claims about what is implemented in browsers, only notes that there can be

Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis

2023-01-26 Thread Rob Sayre
On Behalf Of *Rob Sayre > *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2023 2:55 PM > *To:* Peter Saint-Andre ; uta@ietf.org > *Subject:* [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis > > > > Hi, > > > > I just filed an issue* to track treatment of browser behavior and WHATWG >

Re: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis

2023-01-26 Thread Corey Bonnell
, Corey From: Uta On Behalf Of Rob Sayre Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 2:55 PM To: Peter Saint-Andre ; uta@ietf.org Subject: [Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis Hi, I just filed an issue* to track treatment of browser behavior and WHATWG specs in https://www.ietf.org

[Uta] Browser behavior in draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis

2023-01-26 Thread Rob Sayre
Hi, I just filed an issue* to track treatment of browser behavior and WHATWG specs in https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis-10.html It's probably easier to track that way, whatever the resolution might be. thanks, Rob *