Re: [Uta] WGLC for draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis-06

2022-06-28 Thread Martin Thomson
I realize that this WGLC deadline passed, but maybe I can exploit the fact that discussion is continuing to ask for one last change (apologies for not writing this up sooner, I haven't been following closely). RFC 9110 Section 4.3.5 (https://httpwg.org/specs/rfc9110.html#https.ip-id) contains

Re: [Uta] WGLC for draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis-06

2022-06-28 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 6/28/22 11:12 AM, Salz, Rich wrote: With regard to PKIX certificates, the primary usage is in the context of the public key infrastructure described in {{5280}}. In addition, technologies such as DNS-Based Authentication of Named Entities (DANE) {{RFC6698}} sometimes use

Re: [Uta] WGLC for draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis-06

2022-06-28 Thread Yaron Sheffer
The new text is kind-of normative, but IMO it's a significant improvement over the old text. Thanks! On 6/27/22, 22:16, "Peter Saint-Andre" wrote: On 6/24/22 5:07 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> * Which identifier types a client includes in its list of reference >> identifiers,

Re: [Uta] WGLC for draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis-06

2022-06-28 Thread Salz, Rich
>With regard to PKIX certificates, the primary usage is in the context of the public key infrastructure described in {{5280}}. In addition, technologies such as DNS-Based Authentication of Named Entities (DANE) {{RFC6698}} sometimes use certificates based on PKIX (more

Re: [Uta] WGLC for draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis-06

2022-06-28 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 6/27/22 4:33 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 6/27/22 4:27 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 02:37:22PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: It does for the majority of the certificate usages, but in practice today DANE is primarily used with SMTP, and predominantly with

Re: [Uta] WGLC for draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis-06

2022-06-28 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 6/28/22 8:14 AM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 04:31:25PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: I'm not necessarily saying that - I'm saying only that Jeff and I tried to find a canonical definition of "fully-qualified domain name" and the best we could do was RFC 1034.

Re: [Uta] WGLC for draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis-06

2022-06-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 04:31:25PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >> I'm not necessarily saying that - I'm saying only that Jeff and I tried > >> to find a canonical definition of "fully-qualified domain name" and the > >> best we could do was RFC 1034. Alternative proposals are welcome. > >

Re: [Uta] WGLC for draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis-06

2022-06-28 Thread Salz, Rich
>RFC 6125 (and now 6125bis) are not documents about the definition or enforcement of DNS naming rules, only about client-side matching of service identifiers presented in X.509 certificates against the client's conception of what the service ought to be (i.e., against a