Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-23 Thread Karl Lattimer
Karl, you also seem to be interested in a Writting GNOME Applications with Vala approach as I do. Would you be interested in kick start with me a parallel book with a more tutorial-alike approach? Sounds like an idea, I mean the things I'm most interested in are how to start from an idea, and

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-23 Thread Luca Dionisi
2009/1/23 Karl Lattimer k...@qdh.org.uk: Karl, you also seem to be interested in a Writting GNOME Applications with Vala approach as I do. Would you be interested in kick start with me a parallel book with a more tutorial-alike approach? Sounds like an idea, I mean the things I'm most

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-23 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 11:33 +0100, Luca Dionisi wrote: Pick up http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/C_Sharp_Programming which is a featured wikibook. There is not a book like thinking in c sharp or c sharp tutorial. That one looks very nice, indeed. ___

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-22 Thread Luca Dionisi
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:30 AM, devros dev...@twotechos.com wrote: Good start. How do we contribute/review? Do we all have to register with the wikibook or is there a central information clearing person? If you wanna contribute you have to register to wikibooks and modify the pages. Maybe,

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-22 Thread Xavier Bestel
Hi Phil, On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 19:49 +, Phil Housley wrote: * Intro o History + GLib/GObject + Gtk + Vala o Programming style + OO + Signals + Loops o Caveats * First Program o Hello

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-22 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2009/1/22 Xavier Bestel xavier.bes...@free.fr: Hi Phil, On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 19:49 +, Phil Housley wrote: * Intro o History + GLib/GObject + Gtk + Vala o Programming style + OO + Signals + Loops

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-22 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2009/1/22 Phil Housley undeconstruc...@gmail.com: 2009/1/22 Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org: 2009/1/22 Xavier Bestel xavier.bes...@free.fr: Hi Phil, On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 19:49 +, Phil Housley wrote: * Intro o History + GLib/GObject + Gtk + Vala

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-21 Thread Luca Dionisi
2009/1/20 Matías De la Puente mfpuente...@gmail.com: Some one create a wiki here: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Vala_Programming I was thinking on Vala Developing as a title, but Vala Programming is good as well. I suggest that, prior to copy-paste existing sources or however inserting content,

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-21 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 10:24 +0100, Luca Dionisi wrote: 2009/1/20 Matías De la Puente mfpuente...@gmail.com: Some one create a wiki here: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Vala_Programming I was thinking on Vala Developing as a title, but Vala Programming is good as well. I'd suggest Developing

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-21 Thread Luca Dionisi
If we start with the skeleton proposed by Phil, then the majority of items proposed by Frederik could go into section Techniques. Same goes for chapters (* Custom Widgets * Cairo Pango * GTK Applications) that Karl would be happy to write. Same goes for * Vala in Science: GSL and MPI proposed by

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-21 Thread Matías De la Puente
2009/1/21 Luca Dionisi luca.dion...@gmail.com On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Karl Lattimer k...@qdh.org.uk wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 10:24 +0100, Luca Dionisi wrote: I suggest that, prior to copy-paste existing sources or however inserting content, we decide on a summary. Subject to

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-21 Thread Yu Feng
On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 14:56 -0200, Matías De la Puente wrote: :) My outline proposal: * GNOME Platform Overview * The Vala Programming Language * Quick Introduction to Vala for C# and Java Programmers * A Simple

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-20 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 09:44 +0700, Hans Baier wrote: I still have a long way to learn Vala. Since someone is successfully using Vala in a number of projects I think they already have a good knowledge of common pitfalls, best practices and the like. Writing a book is one of the most

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-20 Thread devros
I would be in on this. Still learning but if its going to speed up the process I would love to help out any way I can. Regards, Srecko On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 21:30 -0500, Yu Feng wrote: On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 15:44 +0100, Luca Dionisi wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Alberto Ruiz

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-20 Thread Luca Dionisi
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: Luca, count on me to write some stuff and help with the content index if someone else (you?) leads the effort (meaning, doing brown dispatching and reminding people to complete their parts of the book ;-). I'm not an

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-20 Thread Frederik
Alberto Ruiz wrote: I actually think, that it would be really nice to do a good GNOME (as in the platform) Tutorial based in Vala. Teaching how to create a GNOME app from the ground up (using GtkBuilder, database access, Speaking of database access: does anyone know if there are any Vala

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-20 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:44 +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2009/1/20 Karl Lattimer k...@qdh.org.uk: On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 09:44 +0700, Hans Baier wrote: I still have a long way to learn Vala. Since someone is successfully using Vala in a number of projects I think they already have a good

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-20 Thread Phil Housley
2009/1/20 Karl Lattimer k...@qdh.org.uk: If we're going to do this as a team I suggest that we outline a strategy before we begin. Here are some chapters we'd want to consider, I'm starting off with ones which I'd be happy to write; * Custom Widgets * Cairo Pango * GTK Applications

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-20 Thread Luca Dionisi
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Phil Housley undeconstruc...@gmail.com wrote: I was thinking about this a while back when I was writing the tutorial, ... Hi Phil Are you talking about this (http://live.gnome.org/Vala/Tutorial) or this (http://www.vala-project.org/doc/vala-draft/) ? Anyway,

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-20 Thread Yu Feng
On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 12:21 +, Karl Lattimer wrote: On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:44 +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2009/1/20 Karl Lattimer k...@qdh.org.uk: On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 09:44 +0700, Hans Baier wrote: I still have a long way to learn Vala. Since someone is successfully using Vala

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-20 Thread Frederik
Karl Lattimer wrote: On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:44 +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2009/1/20 Karl Lattimer k...@qdh.org.uk: On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 09:44 +0700, Hans Baier wrote: I still have a long way to learn Vala. Since someone is successfully using Vala in a number of projects I think they

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-20 Thread Phil Housley
2009/1/20 Phil Housley undeconstruc...@gmail.com: I was thinking about this a while back when I was writing the tutorial, I have a short contents list that I'll post here as soon as I get home this evening. I really do intend to get back to updating the tutorial/docs any day now, so I'll

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-19 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2009/1/19 Luca Dionisi luca.dion...@gmail.com: Has anyone on this list ever thought about producing a wikibook (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki) on Programming in Vala ? I guess that if the book is not there, the answer is no. ;-) Are you willing to start one up? I mean, not only formal

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-19 Thread Luca Dionisi
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: 2009/1/19 Luca Dionisi luca.dion...@gmail.com: Has anyone on this list ever thought about producing a wikibook (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki) on Programming in Vala ? I guess that if the book is not there, the answer is no.

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-19 Thread Yu Feng
On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 15:44 +0100, Luca Dionisi wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: 2009/1/19 Luca Dionisi luca.dion...@gmail.com: Has anyone on this list ever thought about producing a wikibook (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki) on Programming in Vala

Re: [Vala] just a suggestion

2009-01-19 Thread Hans Baier
I still have a long way to learn Vala. Since someone is successfully using Vala in a number of projects I think they already have a good knowledge of common pitfalls, best practices and the like. Writing a book is one of the most efficient ways to learn. Believe me, that is how I learnt