On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:32:10 +0100,
Daniel Lucraft d...@fluentradical.com wrote:
I remember reading once that although Excel had the ability to import
from Lotus 123 since the beginning, it was only when Excel gained the
ability to *export* to Lotus 123 that it saw significant takeup,
Saw this thread and by coincidence,
saw this link on a blog:
http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono
Frank
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The on topic results of the thread so far are:
...pretty worthless.
automatic language conversion of C#
The code won't compile but the syntax would be valid.
Maybe Vala's parser could parse C# into a Vala AST which it could re-emit as
vala code
Maybe some perl/python tool to fix up or
Port Tomboy as a show-case project port
There is already a project that showcases Vala in comparison to C,
C++, and C#: http://code.google.com/p/vala-benchmarks/
Just a comment over this flamewar.
I'm the author of vala-benchmarks and I just want to highlight one thing
: *Don't
2009/6/29 Levi Bard taktaktaktaktaktaktaktaktak...@gmail.com:
The on topic results of the thread so far are:
...pretty worthless.
Actually, there are some valuable opinions in this thread.
Can we please stop the ridiculousness now? Please?
There is nothing ridiculous about (most of) this
* Levi Bard wrote, On 29/06/09 15:35:
The on topic results of the thread so far are:
...pretty worthless.
clearly not to the people who made them, and further down you even find
one to have been worthwhile.
automatic language conversion of C#
The code won't compile but the syntax
I remember reading once that although Excel had the ability to import
from Lotus 123 since the beginning, it was only when Excel gained the
ability to *export* to Lotus 123 that it saw significant takeup,
because offices didn't have to worry that they would get locked in to
an untested product.
* Jiří Zárevúcky wrote, On 29/06/09 16:00:
There is nothing ridiculous about (most of) this discussion. I agree
this mailing list is probably not the best for it, but then no mailing
list is.
IMO, there is nothing of value left to be said anyway, so I suppose
this thread is already dead. If
Raphael Bosshard wrote:
I'd rather like a possibility to automatically convert (or
semi-convert, with manual fixes) C# code to Vala. There are some
C#/Mono libraries out there (like Banshees ListView implementation)
which provide a real benefit. Right now these libraries are only
available to
Michael Torrie wrote:
Stupid and wasted, yes. Absolutely. But the only way to get a complete
comparison that might change the gimmicky view of Vala would be to do
a straight port of some Mono application. At least if the developer is
trying to compare (however foolishly) the two development
Ah, another one of the anti-mono guys. Sigh...
Let me tell you, that from the sole principle of how Vala works, it
will never be possible to convert C# code in a mechanistic fashion.
You could maybe try creating some sort of automatic converter, which
wouldn't work anyway, as it would result in a
* Jiří Zárevúcky wrote, On 26/06/09 12:28:
Ah, another one of the anti-mono guys. Sigh...
Ah, another one of those guys who sees anti-mono guys everywhere.
Let me tell you, that from the sole principle of how Vala works, it
will never be possible to convert C# code in a mechanistic
Ah, ok, I'm sorry for my impulsive response. I may have implied a
thing or two from following parts:
Subject: Removal of Mono
-- What the hell?
It may be prudent to keep a weather eye open for the removal of mono on
the horizon.
-- As with the subject, this implies you want Mono removed.
Sure,
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Sam Liddicott wrote:
It may be prudent to keep a weather eye open for the removal of mono on
the horizon.
Wrong forum. This list is for users of Vala, not Mono trolls, no matter how
subtle. Go away, thanks.
--- Mike
Dne 26. červen 2009 14:41 Sam Liddicott s...@liddicott.com napsal(a):
I'm not advocating the vala be able to compile C# code
-- You're suggesting it. Otherwise you would mention that possibility at all.
I mentioned it in order to avoid that discussion (fail fail!). I wanted
to avoid the
I see that some-one is re-writing tomboy in C++ as gnote - why they
aren't using Vala is puzzling - probably they never heard of vala.
Actually, the person in question is a fervent c++ proponent who has
stated that vala is a gimmick.
--
http://homes.eff.org/~barlow/EconomyOfIdeas.html
I've trimmed my response after reading Aaron Andersen's post, who
expressed very neatly the issues at stake.
I'm clarifying on-topic as I seem to have given Michael the wrong
impression on a topic that is more politically charged than i realised.
* Michael B. Trausch wrote, On 26/06/09 16:03:
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 16:41 +0100, Sam Liddicott wrote:
I've trimmed my response after reading Aaron Andersen's post, who
expressed very neatly the issues at stake.
I'm clarifying on-topic as I seem to have given Michael the wrong
impression on a topic that is more politically charged than
Levi Bard wrote:
Actually, the person in question is a fervent c++ proponent who has
stated that vala is a gimmick.
Perhaps someone should port tomboy to Vala just to illustrate what the
language is capable, compared to both Mono and C++. I think anyone
considering Vala for development would
2009/6/26 Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com:
Levi Bard wrote:
Actually, the person in question is a fervent c++ proponent who has
stated that vala is a gimmick.
Perhaps someone should port tomboy to Vala just to illustrate what the
language is capable, compared to both Mono and C++. I think
Jiří Zárevúcky wrote:
Honestly, making yet another port of Tomboy is the stupidest idea I've
read on this mailing list so far. There is already a lot of original
and formidable projects that illustrate how capable Vala is. Try to be
at least a bit original and not just copy another people's
I'd rather like a possibility to automatically convert (or semi-convert,
with manual fixes) C# code to Vala. There are some C#/Mono libraries out
there (like Banshees ListView implementation) which provide a real benefit.
Right now these libraries are only available to Mono applications. In some
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