Re: [Vala] Vala logo
That's my hope too. If Jürg doesn't have the time to be involved in the voting process, he could let some kind of community manager organize the voting and make a decision on which he then has a veto. So if he likes the community's decision, the time he needs to put into this is close to zero and if he doesn't, he'd just need to tell me what he'd like to change and I could make the necessary changes to it. If nobody else wants to do it, I'd also organize it myself. What do you think? Tobias 2012/1/5 Joseph Montanez jmonta...@gorilla3d.com Tobias, I really hope someone can make your work official. We had so much talk about this already a few months ago. In the end I think Jürg would have the last say on the logo. Also I don't think there is a community manager for this project, besides Jürg. Seeing that there are over 500+ bugs many that need to be confirmed or are new makes me think something like this may be put on the back burner for a while. Maybe it would be worth while to see if its possible to have a community manager arise? On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Tobias Bernard berto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, It's been a few months since I first proposed to help with a Vala logo and branding. Since on the mailing list there are mostly users and little developers of the language and they aren't very active here, it's hard to know who to talk to to organize something official. When I contacted Jürg Billeter as the main author of the language in August, he said that he's very busy but he might do something about it. After that I haven't heard from him, not even after I contacted him again in November. So, since Jürg seems to be too busy, is there someone else who is officially authorized to organize this? I'd love to support the project, but I can't if I don't get clear instructions... In case someone hasn't seen the proposals, here's the most recent versionhttp://ubuntuone.com/p/1DBL/ . kind regards Tobias Bernard ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list -- Joseph Montanez Web Developer Gorilla3D Design, Develop, Deploy ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo
On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 02:03 +0100, Tobias Bernard wrote: In case someone hasn't seen the proposals, here's the most recent versionhttp://ubuntuone.com/p/1DBL/ I like version 05 :) ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo
Second that. A more readable font for VALA would be a plus in my opinion as well. On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Dr. Michael Lauer wrote: I also like version 5, however I think the typography should be reconsidered. While it looks cool and scifi-like, I'd appreciate something more readable. Cheers, :M: ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo
Something cleaner and simpler for the font. On Monday, January 2, 2012, Steven Oliver wrote: Second that. A more readable font for VALA would be a plus in my opinion as well. On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Dr. Michael Lauer wrote: I also like version 5, however I think the typography should be reconsidered. While it looks cool and scifi-like, I'd appreciate something more readable. Cheers, :M: ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org javascript:; http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org javascript:; http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list -- David Gomes ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo
The text issue has already been discussed in August and I think we agreed to vote on this after coosing a symbol. For now, just ignore the text as it's a placeholder and focus on the logo itself ;) Tobias ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo
Then i stand for number 5. Text title sucks :) --- Исходное сообщение --- От кого: Tobias Bernard berto...@gmail.com Кому: vala-list@gnome.org Дата: 2 января 2012, 21:37:49 Тема: Re: [Vala] Vala logo The text issue has already been discussed in August and I think we agreed to vote on this after coosing a symbol. For now, just ignore the text as it's a placeholder and focus on the logo itself ;) Tobias ___ vala-list mailing listvala-list@gnome.orghttp://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo
As someone said in an earlier thread: To me it is about flying above all the nightmare complexity of pages of boilerplate code that is required at the C level. The core values a Vala brand should communicate are lightness, ease, freedom and openness. I think wings symbolize these values quite well. Tobias ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
[Vala] Vala logo
Hi all, It's been a few months since I first proposed to help with a Vala logo and branding. Since on the mailing list there are mostly users and little developers of the language and they aren't very active here, it's hard to know who to talk to to organize something official. When I contacted Jürg Billeter as the main author of the language in August, he said that he's very busy but he might do something about it. After that I haven't heard from him, not even after I contacted him again in November. So, since Jürg seems to be too busy, is there someone else who is officially authorized to organize this? I'd love to support the project, but I can't if I don't get clear instructions... In case someone hasn't seen the proposals, here's the most recent versionhttp://ubuntuone.com/p/1DBL/ . kind regards Tobias Bernard ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo
I like the wings. What's the connection to vala though? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2011, at 8:03 PM, Tobias Bernard berto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, It's been a few months since I first proposed to help with a Vala logo and branding. Since on the mailing list there are mostly users and little developers of the language and they aren't very active here, it's hard to know who to talk to to organize something official. When I contacted Jürg Billeter as the main author of the language in August, he said that he's very busy but he might do something about it. After that I haven't heard from him, not even after I contacted him again in November. So, since Jürg seems to be too busy, is there someone else who is officially authorized to organize this? I'd love to support the project, but I can't if I don't get clear instructions... In case someone hasn't seen the proposals, here's the most recent versionhttp://ubuntuone.com/p/1DBL/ . kind regards Tobias Bernard ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting
It's never too late for feedback :) But as I already wrote here on the mailing list, this voting won't be about the VALA text but about the symbol. This text is on the proposals as an example, but it will be dicussed later and there will be a separate voting on it. For now, if you don't like it, ignore it ;) tobias 2011/8/31 Dru Moore d...@dru-id.co.uk Probably far too late in the process to come back and comment on this but I have a few general comments. I really like the concept of wings etc and think of the logo marks, all but #4 are really very strong, to me #4 is the weakest and is only good. However, I really dislike the font used for VALA. I totally get that by reducing the number of strokes required to form the letters you are trying to evoke simplicity and lightness as shared qualities. For me it actually suggests a different, less accurate set of ideas: Only a few basic tools - 4 unique strokes build the entire word Very direct and angular - fast yes, elegant no. These would seem more to be the qualities of a low level language (assembler or c) rather than a modern, high level language. Vala provides lot's of tools and high level objects to it's users that should let us express ourselves in a much more elegant fashion. Appreciate these comments may be coming at the least helpful time and regardless the outcome will clearly be to a very high standard. On 31 August 2011 18:20, Tobias Bernard berto...@gmail.com wrote: I totally agree with you that war isn't a good symbolism for this, it is one of the reasons I deleted that proposal. The reason why I created it in the first place was the sound of Vala: it reminds of Valkyrie or Valhalla (and if you've read the Silmarillion it reminds of the Valar), and ancient weapons are strongly connected to those topics, so I wanted to try working on that. But since there are better symbolisms (which also look better graphically :D), I deleted that proposal. I don't know if you've taken a look at the pdf, but there are several proposals which communicate exactly what you said: lightness, easiness, flying etc. A flying carpet isn't a bad idea but personally, I like a wing better, because it's less complex and easier to understand. in case you've missed it: symbol proposals pdf downloadhttp://ubuntuone.com/p/1DBL/ kind regards tobias 2011/8/31 Jim Peters j...@uazu.net Sam Liddicott wrote: 2) The symbolism of ancient warfare is hard to understand. Probably too hard to be understood instantly by most people, so I put that proposal away too. The presentation is very good. I think that symbols of weapons, killing and/or warfare should be avoided, having very current and unpleasant connotations for many people in specific locales. War happens -- deal with it. But anyway, Vala is not about war, not even about posing with weapons, nor indulging in feelings of superiority or anything like that. Vala is practical and gets the job done. It is not an academic language made by purists or theorists. It doesn't seem to attract zealots or fanatics -- it is relatively humble in that sense. It makes life easier for those who use it -- compared to the alternative tools available to do the same job. Getting a good visual logo can be hard. When I was involved in OpenEEG, someone sent us a drawing of a levitating, meditating, EEG-wired GNU, which was really perfect and said everything: http://openeeg.sf.net/ However, a programming language is more abstract. Linux has a penguin mascot pictured with a bellyful of fish (according to Linus), which I guess represents a feeling of comfort. I wonder whether we can find a feeling connection for Vala? To me it is about flying above all the nightmare complexity of pages of boilerplate code that is required at the C level. So maybe Aladdin's flying carpet? Or something else to represent the ease and feeling of flying above complexity? Any other way we can represent this feeling? Or is there some other feeling we can associate with Vala? Jim -- Jim Peters (_)/=\~/_(_) j...@uazu.net (_) /=\ ~/_ (_) Uazú (_)/=\~/_(_)http:// in Peru(_) /=\ ~/_ (_)uazu.net ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting
I totally agree with you that war isn't a good symbolism for this, it is one of the reasons I deleted that proposal. The reason why I created it in the first place was the sound of Vala: it reminds of Valkyrie or Valhalla (and if you've read the Silmarillion it reminds of the Valar), and ancient weapons are strongly connected to those topics, so I wanted to try working on that. But since there are better symbolisms (which also look better graphically :D), I deleted that proposal. I don't know if you've taken a look at the pdf, but there are several proposals which communicate exactly what you said: lightness, easiness, flying etc. A flying carpet isn't a bad idea but personally, I like a wing better, because it's less complex and easier to understand. in case you've missed it: symbol proposals pdf downloadhttp://ubuntuone.com/p/1DBL/ kind regards tobias 2011/8/31 Jim Peters j...@uazu.net Sam Liddicott wrote: 2) The symbolism of ancient warfare is hard to understand. Probably too hard to be understood instantly by most people, so I put that proposal away too. The presentation is very good. I think that symbols of weapons, killing and/or warfare should be avoided, having very current and unpleasant connotations for many people in specific locales. War happens -- deal with it. But anyway, Vala is not about war, not even about posing with weapons, nor indulging in feelings of superiority or anything like that. Vala is practical and gets the job done. It is not an academic language made by purists or theorists. It doesn't seem to attract zealots or fanatics -- it is relatively humble in that sense. It makes life easier for those who use it -- compared to the alternative tools available to do the same job. Getting a good visual logo can be hard. When I was involved in OpenEEG, someone sent us a drawing of a levitating, meditating, EEG-wired GNU, which was really perfect and said everything: http://openeeg.sf.net/ However, a programming language is more abstract. Linux has a penguin mascot pictured with a bellyful of fish (according to Linus), which I guess represents a feeling of comfort. I wonder whether we can find a feeling connection for Vala? To me it is about flying above all the nightmare complexity of pages of boilerplate code that is required at the C level. So maybe Aladdin's flying carpet? Or something else to represent the ease and feeling of flying above complexity? Any other way we can represent this feeling? Or is there some other feeling we can associate with Vala? Jim -- Jim Peters (_)/=\~/_(_) j...@uazu.net (_) /=\ ~/_ (_) Uazú (_)/=\~/_(_)http:// in Peru(_) /=\ ~/_ (_)uazu.net ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting
Probably far too late in the process to come back and comment on this but I have a few general comments. I really like the concept of wings etc and think of the logo marks, all but #4 are really very strong, to me #4 is the weakest and is only good. However, I really dislike the font used for VALA. I totally get that by reducing the number of strokes required to form the letters you are trying to evoke simplicity and lightness as shared qualities. For me it actually suggests a different, less accurate set of ideas: Only a few basic tools - 4 unique strokes build the entire word Very direct and angular - fast yes, elegant no. These would seem more to be the qualities of a low level language (assembler or c) rather than a modern, high level language. Vala provides lot's of tools and high level objects to it's users that should let us express ourselves in a much more elegant fashion. Appreciate these comments may be coming at the least helpful time and regardless the outcome will clearly be to a very high standard. On 31 August 2011 18:20, Tobias Bernard berto...@gmail.com wrote: I totally agree with you that war isn't a good symbolism for this, it is one of the reasons I deleted that proposal. The reason why I created it in the first place was the sound of Vala: it reminds of Valkyrie or Valhalla (and if you've read the Silmarillion it reminds of the Valar), and ancient weapons are strongly connected to those topics, so I wanted to try working on that. But since there are better symbolisms (which also look better graphically :D), I deleted that proposal. I don't know if you've taken a look at the pdf, but there are several proposals which communicate exactly what you said: lightness, easiness, flying etc. A flying carpet isn't a bad idea but personally, I like a wing better, because it's less complex and easier to understand. in case you've missed it: symbol proposals pdf downloadhttp://ubuntuone.com/p/1DBL/ kind regards tobias 2011/8/31 Jim Peters j...@uazu.net Sam Liddicott wrote: 2) The symbolism of ancient warfare is hard to understand. Probably too hard to be understood instantly by most people, so I put that proposal away too. The presentation is very good. I think that symbols of weapons, killing and/or warfare should be avoided, having very current and unpleasant connotations for many people in specific locales. War happens -- deal with it. But anyway, Vala is not about war, not even about posing with weapons, nor indulging in feelings of superiority or anything like that. Vala is practical and gets the job done. It is not an academic language made by purists or theorists. It doesn't seem to attract zealots or fanatics -- it is relatively humble in that sense. It makes life easier for those who use it -- compared to the alternative tools available to do the same job. Getting a good visual logo can be hard. When I was involved in OpenEEG, someone sent us a drawing of a levitating, meditating, EEG-wired GNU, which was really perfect and said everything: http://openeeg.sf.net/ However, a programming language is more abstract. Linux has a penguin mascot pictured with a bellyful of fish (according to Linus), which I guess represents a feeling of comfort. I wonder whether we can find a feeling connection for Vala? To me it is about flying above all the nightmare complexity of pages of boilerplate code that is required at the C level. So maybe Aladdin's flying carpet? Or something else to represent the ease and feeling of flying above complexity? Any other way we can represent this feeling? Or is there some other feeling we can associate with Vala? Jim -- Jim Peters (_)/=\~/_(_) j...@uazu.net (_) /=\ ~/_ (_) Uazú (_) /=\ ~/_ (_) http:// in Peru (_) /=\ ~/_ (_) uazu.net ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting
On 27/08/11 15:29, Tobias Bernard wrote: 2) The symbolism of ancient warfare is hard to understand. Probably too hard to be understood instantly by most people, so I put that proposal away too. The presentation is very good. I think that symbols of weapons, killing and/or warfare should be avoided, having very current and unpleasant connotations for many people in specific locales. Sam ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting
Sam Liddicott wrote: 2) The symbolism of ancient warfare is hard to understand. Probably too hard to be understood instantly by most people, so I put that proposal away too. The presentation is very good. I think that symbols of weapons, killing and/or warfare should be avoided, having very current and unpleasant connotations for many people in specific locales. War happens -- deal with it. But anyway, Vala is not about war, not even about posing with weapons, nor indulging in feelings of superiority or anything like that. Vala is practical and gets the job done. It is not an academic language made by purists or theorists. It doesn't seem to attract zealots or fanatics -- it is relatively humble in that sense. It makes life easier for those who use it -- compared to the alternative tools available to do the same job. Getting a good visual logo can be hard. When I was involved in OpenEEG, someone sent us a drawing of a levitating, meditating, EEG-wired GNU, which was really perfect and said everything: http://openeeg.sf.net/ However, a programming language is more abstract. Linux has a penguin mascot pictured with a bellyful of fish (according to Linus), which I guess represents a feeling of comfort. I wonder whether we can find a feeling connection for Vala? To me it is about flying above all the nightmare complexity of pages of boilerplate code that is required at the C level. So maybe Aladdin's flying carpet? Or something else to represent the ease and feeling of flying above complexity? Any other way we can represent this feeling? Or is there some other feeling we can associate with Vala? Jim -- Jim Peters (_)/=\~/_(_) j...@uazu.net (_) /=\ ~/_ (_) Uazú (_)/=\~/_(_)http:// in Peru(_) /=\ ~/_ (_)uazu.net ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
[Vala] Vala logo symbol voting
Hi Since there were no further comments on the logo drafts, I thought I'd propose to vote on the logo symbol. here http://ubuntuone.com/p/1DBL/'s a revised version of the logo symbol part of my proposal document http://ubuntuone.com/p/1AW8/ (alternative download http://tobias.bluestain.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/vala01.pdf ) I don't know how you organize votings here, so I have some questions on that: What is needed to start an official voting? Is there a some kind of a leader who offcially announces votings? Who is allowed to vote and how many people need to vote to take a decision? After thinking a bit more about it, I changed certain poposals, deleted others and added new ones. Of course I tried to always keep your feedback in mind. So here's the changes in detail: 1) Putting the symbol inside a circle for the main logo is a bad idea. In some cases the symbol could be used this way, but as a variant, not as the main one. This is why I deleted all proposals inside a circle. 2) The symbolism of ancient warfare is hard to understand. Probably too hard to be understood instantly by most people, so I put that proposal away too. 3) The simplicity of the first proposal (horizontal wing) was liked by many, so I added a similar symbol with a simple vertical wing. 4) Thanks to XY, I used your idea for proposal 04, however I am still not sure if a) The V is readable b) The wing is recognizable I thought I'd let the community decide this by voting ;) I'm looking forward to hear from you, so the votings can begin. Of course, any kind of feedback is welcome and any changes can be made to the current proposals. kind regards tobias ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting
I forgot to change the place holder XY to rastersoft, because I wrote the text when I had no internet connection and didn't see it now before sending it . The credidts for idea #4 go to him ;) Sorry. tobias 2011/8/27 Tobias Bernard berto...@gmail.com Hi Since there were no further comments on the logo drafts, I thought I'd propose to vote on the logo symbol. here http://ubuntuone.com/p/1DBL/'s a revised version of the logo symbol part of my proposal document http://ubuntuone.com/p/1AW8/ (alternative downloadhttp://tobias.bluestain.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/vala01.pdf ) I don't know how you organize votings here, so I have some questions on that: What is needed to start an official voting? Is there a some kind of a leader who offcially announces votings? Who is allowed to vote and how many people need to vote to take a decision? After thinking a bit more about it, I changed certain poposals, deleted others and added new ones. Of course I tried to always keep your feedback in mind. So here's the changes in detail: 1) Putting the symbol inside a circle for the main logo is a bad idea. In some cases the symbol could be used this way, but as a variant, not as the main one. This is why I deleted all proposals inside a circle. 2) The symbolism of ancient warfare is hard to understand. Probably too hard to be understood instantly by most people, so I put that proposal away too. 3) The simplicity of the first proposal (horizontal wing) was liked by many, so I added a similar symbol with a simple vertical wing. 4) Thanks to XY, I used your idea for proposal 04, however I am still not sure if a) The V is readable b) The wing is recognizable I thought I'd let the community decide this by voting ;) I'm looking forward to hear from you, so the votings can begin. Of course, any kind of feedback is welcome and any changes can be made to the current proposals. kind regards tobias ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting
ok, i'll try that. after choosing a symbol, there should be a voting on the logo text too, so thanks a lot for the proposal. for now: ignore all the text and focus on the symbols ;) tobias 2011/8/27 august aug...@alien.mur.at Hi Tobias, All, I hope you don't mind me making a suggestion here. I find all of the graphics you've made to be very professional. I really like the wing and definitely prefer the 2 tone graphic over glass effects. I was only wondering if it would be possible to see the wings with another text graphic below it. The vala with the sharp edges kind of turns me off. Vala is more of a rounded and soft word with lots of vowels. It rolls off the tongue. The graphic I see in your logos, however, expresses a lot of consonants and pointedness. To me, the current text graphic contradicts the forgiving and welcoming feel of the vala language. To me, vala takes the snagging edges out of programming. It's a more human and organic language, less machine. Would it be possible to round off the points on the text graphic? I'm not sure it would be better, but I think it would be interesting to see. For sure, it will set other things in the logo out of balance, but it just might fit the wings better. best -august. Tobias Bernard say: Hi Since there were no further comments on the logo drafts, I thought I'd propose to vote on the logo symbol. here http://ubuntuone.com/p/1DBL/'s a revised version of the logo symbol part of my proposal document http://ubuntuone.com/p/1AW8/ (alternative download http://tobias.bluestain.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/vala01.pdf ) I don't know how you organize votings here, so I have some questions on that: What is needed to start an official voting? Is there a some kind of a leader who offcially announces votings? Who is allowed to vote and how many people need to vote to take a decision? After thinking a bit more about it, I changed certain poposals, deleted others and added new ones. Of course I tried to always keep your feedback in mind. So here's the changes in detail: 1) Putting the symbol inside a circle for the main logo is a bad idea. In some cases the symbol could be used this way, but as a variant, not as the main one. This is why I deleted all proposals inside a circle. 2) The symbolism of ancient warfare is hard to understand. Probably too hard to be understood instantly by most people, so I put that proposal away too. 3) The simplicity of the first proposal (horizontal wing) was liked by many, so I added a similar symbol with a simple vertical wing. 4) Thanks to XY, I used your idea for proposal 04, however I am still not sure if a) The V is readable b) The wing is recognizable I thought I'd let the community decide this by voting ;) I'm looking forward to hear from you, so the votings can begin. Of course, any kind of feedback is welcome and any changes can be made to the current proposals. kind regards tobias ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list -- --- http://aug.ment.org GPG: 0A8D 2BC7 243D 57D0 469D 9736 C557 458F 003E 6952 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBTlkcQ8VXRY8APmlSAQLf+ggAkr+U8grKOvHAGi1OKXBJYXqZabHUaMik ONHkcJrinfwctMfkv3+ERFrqsPRx0sgOUzCHWLyOxEOjnaFZkW7r84lXnvYiC1gr Jgswbt39lUdMmbCHwszIYHvMLVu4r0soV8zSSARSBxAsgcOTqVY8SQMvcODid9ZL rEFisXsLgRpYswj8/QjD7zKEQGGsu6IbdWg9smaYc+x2l31QIo3o68WQ6xS8UcZW FXM5LPGbf10hlQVC+TF29q+FLqO4DzfEzfqzbyWXPGiT4e3Geebu9pW3Edn6W6Cq rfCyP8/CmOmVC+evON/4T/Y/9NvVokuZCqp5tGqAJfeNMnXFuVtAXA== =nk6C -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting
Hi Tobias, All, I hope you don't mind me making a suggestion here. I find all of the graphics you've made to be very professional. I really like the wing and definitely prefer the 2 tone graphic over glass effects. I was only wondering if it would be possible to see the wings with another text graphic below it. The vala with the sharp edges kind of turns me off. Vala is more of a rounded and soft word with lots of vowels. It rolls off the tongue. The graphic I see in your logos, however, expresses a lot of consonants and pointedness. To me, the current text graphic contradicts the forgiving and welcoming feel of the vala language. To me, vala takes the snagging edges out of programming. It's a more human and organic language, less machine. Would it be possible to round off the points on the text graphic? I'm not sure it would be better, but I think it would be interesting to see. For sure, it will set other things in the logo out of balance, but it just might fit the wings better. best -august. Tobias Bernard say: Hi Since there were no further comments on the logo drafts, I thought I'd propose to vote on the logo symbol. here http://ubuntuone.com/p/1DBL/'s a revised version of the logo symbol part of my proposal document http://ubuntuone.com/p/1AW8/ (alternative download http://tobias.bluestain.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/vala01.pdf ) I don't know how you organize votings here, so I have some questions on that: What is needed to start an official voting? Is there a some kind of a leader who offcially announces votings? Who is allowed to vote and how many people need to vote to take a decision? After thinking a bit more about it, I changed certain poposals, deleted others and added new ones. Of course I tried to always keep your feedback in mind. So here's the changes in detail: 1) Putting the symbol inside a circle for the main logo is a bad idea. In some cases the symbol could be used this way, but as a variant, not as the main one. This is why I deleted all proposals inside a circle. 2) The symbolism of ancient warfare is hard to understand. Probably too hard to be understood instantly by most people, so I put that proposal away too. 3) The simplicity of the first proposal (horizontal wing) was liked by many, so I added a similar symbol with a simple vertical wing. 4) Thanks to XY, I used your idea for proposal 04, however I am still not sure if a) The V is readable b) The wing is recognizable I thought I'd let the community decide this by voting ;) I'm looking forward to hear from you, so the votings can begin. Of course, any kind of feedback is welcome and any changes can be made to the current proposals. kind regards tobias ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list -- --- http://aug.ment.org GPG: 0A8D 2BC7 243D 57D0 469D 9736 C557 458F 003E 6952 signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals
Are you sure? I tried it on 3 different PCs an it worked... anyway, here's an alternative download linkhttp://tobias.bluestain.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/vala01.pdf tobias 2011/8/17 Kris Thomsen lakris...@gmail.com I get an error when I try to open the Ubuntu One-page :-) Would really love to see the proposal. // Kris 2011/8/17 Tobias Bernard berto...@gmail.com hi Thank you all for your feedback! @ Luca: I wouldn't use the tango palette, first of all because I personally don't like it really much ;) and second becuase it doesn't fit really well with the values the whole brand identity aims to communicate (freedom, lightness, simplicity etc). I don't see why blue should be old school in general, and as explained in the pdf, I think it fits really well with the ideas behind Vala. However, if it is decided to go for tango colors, in some way that could work as well, I guess :) @ Rastersoft Looks interesting, I'll try something like that. The problem is probably to keep the V readable. We'll see.. @ Rob Of course, once a logo has been chosen, there will be many different versions for different sizes and purposes, among those very likely also a horizontal one, but it's way too early to think about such details. I placed the symbols above the text for all proposals because it worked well with the sheet format, but this does in no way mean the final logo is going to behave this way. @ Joseph That (or a similar) slogan could be used also as a logo subtitle. like it :) As explained in the pdf I think a subtitle for the logo would be nice. So if anyone has an idea how the essence of Vala could be expressed in short words, please make suggestions! (example: Ruby - a programmer's best friend) Here's what we currently have: - Vala - a simple yet powerful programming language - Vala - gives you vings (or maybe spread your wings, so it'd be less similar to the redbull slogan^^) I recommend everyone to also read the initial part of the document, so you can understand better where the logos come from and why I did things the way I did. Of course, suggestions of any kind are highly appreaciated ;) kind regards tobias 2011/8/15 Tobias Bernard berto...@gmail.com Hi Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking a logo http://www.mail-archive.com/vala-list@gnome.org/msg07487.html and I thought I might be able to help. So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded here http://ubuntuone.com/p/1AW8/. I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;) kind regards tobias bernard ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my website http://tobias.bluestain.net/. I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04. ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals
+1 for Vings#4, it's a great icon and it has the good aspect of actually forming a very clear V with the wings. On 08/16/2011 07:37 PM, Joseph Montanez wrote: This reminds me of Electronic Arts Logo, except the A on their logo is a bit more detailed and inside the circle. Vala is so simple in lettering its really hard to sell a detailed logo since it detours the eye. Its very clean that's for certain. So my favorite is Vings #4. It would be a fun twist to say Vala gives you vings! Which closely follows Redbull gives you wings! On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Tobias Bernardberto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking a logohttp://www.mail-archive.com/vala-list@gnome.org/msg07487.html and I thought I might be able to help. So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded herehttp://ubuntuone.com/p/1AW8/. I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;) kind regards tobias bernard ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my websitehttp://tobias.bluestain.net/. I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04. ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals
hi Thank you all for your feedback! @ Luca: I wouldn't use the tango palette, first of all because I personally don't like it really much ;) and second becuase it doesn't fit really well with the values the whole brand identity aims to communicate (freedom, lightness, simplicity etc). I don't see why blue should be old school in general, and as explained in the pdf, I think it fits really well with the ideas behind Vala. However, if it is decided to go for tango colors, in some way that could work as well, I guess :) @ Rastersoft Looks interesting, I'll try something like that. The problem is probably to keep the V readable. We'll see.. @ Rob Of course, once a logo has been chosen, there will be many different versions for different sizes and purposes, among those very likely also a horizontal one, but it's way too early to think about such details. I placed the symbols above the text for all proposals because it worked well with the sheet format, but this does in no way mean the final logo is going to behave this way. @ Joseph That (or a similar) slogan could be used also as a logo subtitle. like it :) As explained in the pdf I think a subtitle for the logo would be nice. So if anyone has an idea how the essence of Vala could be expressed in short words, please make suggestions! (example: Ruby - a programmer's best friend) Here's what we currently have: - Vala - a simple yet powerful programming language - Vala - gives you vings (or maybe spread your wings, so it'd be less similar to the redbull slogan^^) I recommend everyone to also read the initial part of the document, so you can understand better where the logos come from and why I did things the way I did. Of course, suggestions of any kind are highly appreaciated ;) kind regards tobias 2011/8/15 Tobias Bernard berto...@gmail.com Hi Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking a logo http://www.mail-archive.com/vala-list@gnome.org/msg07487.html and I thought I might be able to help. So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded here http://ubuntuone.com/p/1AW8/. I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;) kind regards tobias bernard ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my websitehttp://tobias.bluestain.net/. I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04. ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals
I get an error when I try to open the Ubuntu One-page :-) Would really love to see the proposal. // Kris 2011/8/17 Tobias Bernard berto...@gmail.com hi Thank you all for your feedback! @ Luca: I wouldn't use the tango palette, first of all because I personally don't like it really much ;) and second becuase it doesn't fit really well with the values the whole brand identity aims to communicate (freedom, lightness, simplicity etc). I don't see why blue should be old school in general, and as explained in the pdf, I think it fits really well with the ideas behind Vala. However, if it is decided to go for tango colors, in some way that could work as well, I guess :) @ Rastersoft Looks interesting, I'll try something like that. The problem is probably to keep the V readable. We'll see.. @ Rob Of course, once a logo has been chosen, there will be many different versions for different sizes and purposes, among those very likely also a horizontal one, but it's way too early to think about such details. I placed the symbols above the text for all proposals because it worked well with the sheet format, but this does in no way mean the final logo is going to behave this way. @ Joseph That (or a similar) slogan could be used also as a logo subtitle. like it :) As explained in the pdf I think a subtitle for the logo would be nice. So if anyone has an idea how the essence of Vala could be expressed in short words, please make suggestions! (example: Ruby - a programmer's best friend) Here's what we currently have: - Vala - a simple yet powerful programming language - Vala - gives you vings (or maybe spread your wings, so it'd be less similar to the redbull slogan^^) I recommend everyone to also read the initial part of the document, so you can understand better where the logos come from and why I did things the way I did. Of course, suggestions of any kind are highly appreaciated ;) kind regards tobias 2011/8/15 Tobias Bernard berto...@gmail.com Hi Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking a logo http://www.mail-archive.com/vala-list@gnome.org/msg07487.html and I thought I might be able to help. So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded here http://ubuntuone.com/p/1AW8/. I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;) kind regards tobias bernard ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my website http://tobias.bluestain.net/. I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04. ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals
Hey, Am Montag, den 15.08.2011, 22:05 +0200 schrieb Tobias Bernard: So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded here http://ubuntuone.com/p/1AW8/. I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;) this is great work. I'd go for 01. 'WING'. Thanks fabian ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals
On 15/08/11 21:16, Luca Bruno wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:05:11PM +0200, Tobias Bernard wrote: Hi Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking a logo http://www.mail-archive.com/vala-list@gnome.org/msg07487.html and I thought I might be able to help. So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded here http://ubuntuone.com/p/1AW8/. I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;) kind regards tobias bernard ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my websitehttp://tobias.bluestain.net/. I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04. Wow, that looks like something serious. Thanks for your work. 01: I like this, looks more like falcon. 02: Too feather-like and circle 03: Too flame-like 04: Too complex and high 05: Nice but it isn't convincing me The warrior looks too old school, like '90ies. I'd like some glassy effect. About colors I like the tango palette [1] which is vibrant. Also I wouldn't use blue, too old school, rather some green, yellow or gray. [1] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines Really nice work Tobias! I think what Luca might be getting at here with 'too high' could be addressed with a horizontal layout. Horizontal would probably work better in a webpage context. 01's wing followed by the typographic logo could look very cool =) HTH, Rob -- Rob Taylor, CTO, Codethink Ltd. - http://codethink.co.uk Twitter: @robtaylor78 - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/robtaylor78 Office: +44 161 236 5575 - Cell: +44 7891 533856 ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals
This reminds me of Electronic Arts Logo, except the A on their logo is a bit more detailed and inside the circle. Vala is so simple in lettering its really hard to sell a detailed logo since it detours the eye. Its very clean that's for certain. So my favorite is Vings #4. It would be a fun twist to say Vala gives you vings! Which closely follows Redbull gives you wings! On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Tobias Bernard berto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking a logo http://www.mail-archive.com/vala-list@gnome.org/msg07487.html and I thought I might be able to help. So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded here http://ubuntuone.com/p/1AW8/. I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;) kind regards tobias bernard ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my websitehttp://tobias.bluestain.net/. I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04. ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list -- Joseph Montanez Web Developer Gorilla3D Design, Develop, Deploy ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
[Vala] Vala logo proposals
Hi Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking a logo http://www.mail-archive.com/vala-list@gnome.org/msg07487.html and I thought I might be able to help. So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded here http://ubuntuone.com/p/1AW8/. I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;) kind regards tobias bernard ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my websitehttp://tobias.bluestain.net/. I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04. ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:05:11PM +0200, Tobias Bernard wrote: Hi Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking a logo http://www.mail-archive.com/vala-list@gnome.org/msg07487.html and I thought I might be able to help. So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded here http://ubuntuone.com/p/1AW8/. I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;) kind regards tobias bernard ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my websitehttp://tobias.bluestain.net/. I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04. Wow, that looks like something serious. Thanks for your work. 01: I like this, looks more like falcon. 02: Too feather-like and circle 03: Too flame-like 04: Too complex and high 05: Nice but it isn't convincing me The warrior looks too old school, like '90ies. I'd like some glassy effect. About colors I like the tango palette [1] which is vibrant. Also I wouldn't use blue, too old school, rather some green, yellow or gray. [1] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines -- http://www.debian.org - The Universal Operating System ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals
I like 1 and 3. I like the incorporation of V into #3. While I think the muted color palette is very professional (suit and tie, maybe), I agree that a bright palette fits Vala's intent to be fresh and vibrant. Matt On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Luca Bruno lethalma...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:05:11PM +0200, Tobias Bernard wrote: Hi Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking a logo http://www.mail-archive.com/vala-list@gnome.org/msg07487.html and I thought I might be able to help. So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded here http://ubuntuone.com/p/1AW8/. I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;) kind regards tobias bernard ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my websitehttp://tobias.bluestain.net/. I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04. Wow, that looks like something serious. Thanks for your work. 01: I like this, looks more like falcon. 02: Too feather-like and circle 03: Too flame-like 04: Too complex and high 05: Nice but it isn't convincing me The warrior looks too old school, like '90ies. I'd like some glassy effect. About colors I like the tango palette [1] which is vibrant. Also I wouldn't use blue, too old school, rather some green, yellow or gray. [1] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines -- http://www.debian.org - The Universal Operating System ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list -- http://technosophos.com http://querypath.org ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi: The logo text is great, but I dislike the logo symbols... What about a V letter in speed, like the feathers in the first wing? Something like this: http://www.rastersoft.com/vala_fast_v.png I'm not a good graphic designer, but I think you can get the idea... El 15/08/11 22:05, Tobias Bernard escribió: Hi Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking a logo http://www.mail-archive.com/vala-list@gnome.org/msg07487.html and I thought I might be able to help. So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded here http://ubuntuone.com/p/1AW8/. I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;) kind regards tobias bernard ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my websitehttp://tobias.bluestain.net/. I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04. ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list - -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804) ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5JrZ4ACgkQXEZvyfy1ha8X8QCggcVN/gp7iWEvZV1+LKjgfKuT pXoAn1+0tjXDAbWaH24p+jSPNQKPUGQL =7Waj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
My favorite is #4. ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo suggestion(s)
On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 10:00 -0500, Carlos Zuniga wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Serge Hulne serge.hu...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cidepix/illustration/letter-v-logo-icons-1067737.html Serge. Can anyone suggest a logo? :) Here's one using the idea of using the v to make all the letters http://imgur.com/y7B1G Here's the svg file in case someone wants to modify it: http://pastebin.com/ewJEnXfr I like a lot this idea. ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo suggestion(s)
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 03:09:06AM +0200, Serge Hulne wrote: http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cidepix/illustration/letter-v-logo-icons-1067737.html I think they are a little complex (too much work on the V) and a revamped version of '90 logos. They can be good for microsoft products :P -- http://www.debian.org - The Universal Operating System ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo suggestion(s)
I agree, except perhaps for the one on the right-hand side at the bottom. (The blue parallelepiped with the green triangle). - - it is simple. - - It suggests both a robust, simple geometric shape and a stylised bamboo (a bamboo stem with a leaf). - - it says Vala in the sense that it coveys both a sense of rigour and a sense of organic growth (in one word pragmatism). - - It is asymmetric, yet balanced (very Zen). Perhaps with different colors and sightly different balance between the shape of the two components, it could look really cool. Serge. On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Luca Bruno lethalma...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 03:09:06AM +0200, Serge Hulne wrote: http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cidepix/illustration/letter-v-logo-icons-1067737.html I think they are a little complex (too much work on the V) and a revamped version of '90 logos. They can be good for microsoft products :P -- http://www.debian.org - The Universal Operating System ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo suggestion(s)
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Serge Hulne serge.hu...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cidepix/illustration/letter-v-logo-icons-1067737.html Serge. Can anyone suggest a logo? :) Here's one using the idea of using the v to make all the letters http://imgur.com/y7B1G Here's the svg file in case someone wants to modify it: http://pastebin.com/ewJEnXfr -- Carlos Z ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo suggestion(s)
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:00:23AM -0500, Carlos Zuniga wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Serge Hulne serge.hu...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cidepix/illustration/letter-v-logo-icons-1067737.html Serge. Can anyone suggest a logo? :) Here's one using the idea of using the v to make all the letters http://imgur.com/y7B1G Here's the svg file in case someone wants to modify it: http://pastebin.com/ewJEnXfr Interesting. I think it could get more vibrant using the tango palette and some glossy effect. A version with all the letters on the same row would be interesting as well. Will put that for the next gallery. -- http://www.debian.org - The Universal Operating System ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo suggestion(s)
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Luca Bruno lethalma...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:00:23AM -0500, Carlos Zuniga wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Serge Hulne serge.hu...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cidepix/illustration/letter-v-logo-icons-1067737.html Serge. Can anyone suggest a logo? :) Here's one using the idea of using the v to make all the letters http://imgur.com/y7B1G Here's the svg file in case someone wants to modify it: http://pastebin.com/ewJEnXfr Interesting. I think it could get more vibrant using the tango palette and some glossy effect. A version with all the letters on the same row would be interesting as well. Will put that for the next gallery. Here are two with all the letters in one row, one in one color and the other using tango: http://imgur.com/a/dqBnI And here's the svg: http://pastebin.com/umz1VMER I've made the shadows separate layers so changing the base colors is easy. -- Carlos Z ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
[Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
I've been asked to to some changes to the new logo and the old logo as well, so I tried to make different flavors of the logos, please express your opinion :) https://picasaweb.google.com/lethalman88/ValaLogo?authuser=0feat=directlink Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color. -- http://www.debian.org - The Universal Operating System ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
Very difficult to express an opinion without being able to reference what if any design brief you are working to. Is there a document floating around somewhere? I've seen some messages about logos from time to time on the list here but don't recall anything detailed. On 29 July 2011 12:33, Luca Bruno lethalma...@gmail.com wrote: I've been asked to to some changes to the new logo and the old logo as well, so I tried to make different flavors of the logos, please express your opinion :) https://picasaweb.google.com/lethalman88/ValaLogo?authuser=0feat=directlink Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color. -- http://www.debian.org - The Universal Operating System ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 01:15:23PM +0100, Dru Moore wrote: Very difficult to express an opinion without being able to reference what if any design brief you are working to. Is there a document floating around somewhere? Really no such think, just express if you like it or not, and if you'd try any particular changes :) -- http://www.debian.org - The Universal Operating System ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
El 29/07/11 08:33, Luca Bruno escribió: I've been asked to to some changes to the new logo and the old logo as well, so I tried to make different flavors of the logos, please express your opinion :) https://picasaweb.google.com/lethalman88/ValaLogo?authuser=0feat=directlink Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color. I like the logo 10, but with a thinner border Matias ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 09:29:44AM -0300, Matias De la Puente wrote: El 29/07/11 08:33, Luca Bruno escribió: I've been asked to to some changes to the new logo and the old logo as well, so I tried to make different flavors of the logos, please express your opinion :) https://picasaweb.google.com/lethalman88/ValaLogo?authuser=0feat=directlink Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color. I like the logo 10, but with a thinner border The outer dark circle you mean? Yes maybe it's too thick. -- http://www.debian.org - The Universal Operating System ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
El 29/07/11 09:33, Luca Bruno escribió: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 09:29:44AM -0300, Matias De la Puente wrote: El 29/07/11 08:33, Luca Bruno escribió: I've been asked to to some changes to the new logo and the old logo as well, so I tried to make different flavors of the logos, please express your opinion :) https://picasaweb.google.com/lethalman88/ValaLogo?authuser=0feat=directlink Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color. I like the logo 10, but with a thinner border The outer dark circle you mean? Yes maybe it's too thick. yeah, that one ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
On 07/29/2011 01:33 PM, Luca Bruno wrote: Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color. So do I. The little one remind me a super hero logo. ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 03:42:33PM +0200, Jacques-Pascal Deplaix wrote: On 07/29/2011 01:33 PM, Luca Bruno wrote: Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color. So do I. The little one remind me a super hero logo. I meant logo #8 ;) -- http://www.debian.org - The Universal Operating System ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
On 07/29/2011 03:46 PM, Luca Bruno wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 03:42:33PM +0200, Jacques-Pascal Deplaix wrote: On 07/29/2011 01:33 PM, Luca Bruno wrote: Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color. So do I. The little one remind me a super hero logo. I meant logo #8 ;) Oups, I meant the logo #10... ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?
Luca Bruno wrote: I retry with another logo :) http://i.imgur.com/oFwpC.png (attached is a remix to make it spell the whole word) Jim -- Jim Peters (_)/=\~/_(_) j...@uazu.net (_) /=\ ~/_ (_) Uazú (_)/=\~/_(_)http:// in Peru(_) /=\ ~/_ (_)uazu.net attachment: vala2B.png___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
Logo #10 looks great to me. Although, on the bottom the darker green band is somewhat distracting. I wouldn't take it away, but maybe do a gradient or something like to reduce the distraction. The green seems to work well, and the circled V also seems to work nicely. I also like #2. Its very distinctive, and looks good. Somewhat less going on and more concise. ~Lewis On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Jacques-Pascal Deplaix jp.depl...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/29/2011 03:46 PM, Luca Bruno wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 03:42:33PM +0200, Jacques-Pascal Deplaix wrote: On 07/29/2011 01:33 PM, Luca Bruno wrote: Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color. So do I. The little one remind me a super hero logo. I meant logo #8 ;) Oups, I meant the logo #10... __**_ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/**listinfo/vala-listhttp://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
On 07/29/2011 06:24 PM, Lewis Gunsch wrote: Logo #10 looks great to me. Although, on the bottom the darker green band is somewhat distracting. I wouldn't take it away, but maybe do a gradient or something like to reduce the distraction. The green seems to work well, and the circled V also seems to work nicely. I would also prefer Logo #10, with or without some variations. Christian -- |--- Dr. Christian Siefkes --- christ...@siefkes.net --- | Homepage: http://www.siefkes.net/ | Blog: http://www.keimform.de/ |Peer Production Everywhere: http://peerconomy.org/wiki/ |-- OpenPGP Key ID: 0x346452D8 -- I've never seen a child who didn't want to build something out of blocks, or learn something new, or try the next task. And the only reason why adults aren't like that is, I suppose, that they have been sent to school and other oppressive institutions, which have driven that out of them. -- Noam Chomsky (The Chomsky-Foucault Debate: On Human Nature) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
Logo #1 for me. Iñigo On 29 July 2011 18:59, Christian Siefkes christ...@siefkes.net wrote: On 07/29/2011 06:24 PM, Lewis Gunsch wrote: Logo #10 looks great to me. Although, on the bottom the darker green band is somewhat distracting. I wouldn't take it away, but maybe do a gradient or something like to reduce the distraction. The green seems to work well, and the circled V also seems to work nicely. I would also prefer Logo #10, with or without some variations. Christian -- |--- Dr. Christian Siefkes --- christ...@siefkes.net --- | Homepage: http://www.siefkes.net/ | Blog: http://www.keimform.de/ | Peer Production Everywhere: http://peerconomy.org/wiki/ |-- OpenPGP Key ID: 0x346452D8 -- I've never seen a child who didn't want to build something out of blocks, or learn something new, or try the next task. And the only reason why adults aren't like that is, I suppose, that they have been sent to school and other oppressive institutions, which have driven that out of them. -- Noam Chomsky (The Chomsky-Foucault Debate: On Human Nature) ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list -- Iñigo Serna Katxijasotzaileak ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?
El 29/07/11 13:16, Jim Peters escribió: Luca Bruno wrote: I retry with another logo :) http://i.imgur.com/oFwpC.png (attached is a remix to make it spell the whole word) ¡This is better! I like this one now :) Jim ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?
El 28/07/11 16:38, Luca Bruno escribió: Ok, I retry with another logo :) http://i.imgur.com/oFwpC.png Another logo: 'vala tux' :) Matias attachment: vala-tux.png___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
I like #7 and #8 but I think the problem for 7, 8 is they look like a broken triangle (instead of being like a V) I think #8 is like Qt logo so I prefer #7 (can you color them with light gray?) On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Iñigo Serna inigose...@gmail.com wrote: Logo #1 for me. Iñigo On 29 July 2011 18:59, Christian Siefkes christ...@siefkes.net wrote: On 07/29/2011 06:24 PM, Lewis Gunsch wrote: Logo #10 looks great to me. Although, on the bottom the darker green band is somewhat distracting. I wouldn't take it away, but maybe do a gradient or something like to reduce the distraction. The green seems to work well, and the circled V also seems to work nicely. I would also prefer Logo #10, with or without some variations. Christian -- |--- Dr. Christian Siefkes --- christ...@siefkes.net --- | Homepage: http://www.siefkes.net/ | Blog: http://www.keimform.de/ |Peer Production Everywhere: http://peerconomy.org/wiki/ |-- OpenPGP Key ID: 0x346452D8 -- I've never seen a child who didn't want to build something out of blocks, or learn something new, or try the next task. And the only reason why adults aren't like that is, I suppose, that they have been sent to school and other oppressive institutions, which have driven that out of them. -- Noam Chomsky (The Chomsky-Foucault Debate: On Human Nature) ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list -- Iñigo Serna Katxijasotzaileak ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list -- aliva ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?
Hello, Vala logos no 1, 2, 7 and 8 look (because of their angles and line lengths) a little bit like super hero and therefore (in my opinion, please do not take this personal) a little cheap and unreliable. Vala logo 3, 4, 5, 6, 9 and 10 look more symmetric and round, therefore more impressive and reliable. Vala logo 3 and 4 have warmer colors than the other logos, therefore warmer impression. Blue usually is interpreted as reliable. Green as natural. Red as warm, eye-catching (signal color) and a little ominous. Usually a good mix. Think of google or picasa... Vala logo 10 looks natural and a little bit cold. My favorites are 3 and 4. Only a personal opinion. Best regards Bernd Nicklas ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 09:30:57PM +0200, Bernd Nicklas wrote: Hello, Vala logos no 1, 2, 7 and 8 look (because of their angles and line lengths) a little bit like super hero and therefore (in my opinion, please do not take this personal) a little cheap and unreliable. Vala logo 3, 4, 5, 6, 9 and 10 look more symmetric and round, therefore more impressive and reliable. Vala logo 3 and 4 have warmer colors than the other logos, therefore warmer impression. Blue usually is interpreted as reliable. Green as natural. Red as warm, eye-catching (signal color) and a little ominous. Usually a good mix. Think of google or picasa... Vala logo 10 looks natural and a little bit cold. My favorites are 3 and 4. Thanks. To point it out, many relate those three colors to gtk colors. -- http://www.debian.org - The Universal Operating System ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?
Vala logos no 1, 2, 7 and 8 look (because of their angles and line lengths) a little bit like super hero Vala is a super language. Any doubt about that? :) hand Nor Jaidi Tuah ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?
+1 My favourite is logo #7 closely followed by #8. To me the super hero logo comparison is playful and warm and reminds how much more fun it is to work with GTK and GLib in Vala than in C Cheers, Chris On 07/30/11 01:09, Nor Jaidi Tuah wrote: Vala logos no 1, 2, 7 and 8 look (because of their angles and line lengths) a little bit like super hero Vala is a super language. Any doubt about that? :) hand Nor Jaidi Tuah ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
[Vala] Vala logo suggestion(s)
http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cidepix/illustration/letter-v-logo-icons-1067737.html Serge. ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
number 8 green reminds me of vala, i guess cause of valide website On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 13:33 +0200, Luca Bruno wrote: I've been asked to to some changes to the new logo and the old logo as well, so I tried to make different flavors of the logos, please express your opinion :) https://picasaweb.google.com/lethalman88/ValaLogo?authuser=0feat=directlink Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color. ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase
The really fat V, 1,2,7,8 makes me think of http://www.ogre3d.org/ I really like logo #4, but I think just a solid dark gray color is fine. Its cheaper to print and works with letting anyone use whatever color they want for integration purposes. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Luca Bruno lethalma...@gmail.com wrote: I've been asked to to some changes to the new logo and the old logo as well, so I tried to make different flavors of the logos, please express your opinion :) https://picasaweb.google.com/lethalman88/ValaLogo?authuser=0feat=directlink Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color. -- http://www.debian.org - The Universal Operating System ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list -- Joseph Montanez Web Developer Gorilla3D Design, Develop, Deploy ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
[Vala] Vala logo, take three?
Ok, I retry with another logo :) http://i.imgur.com/oFwpC.png -- http://www.debian.org - The Universal Operating System ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
