Re: Revisiting default values

2020-07-10 Thread Dan Smith
> On Jul 10, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Kevin Bourrillion wrote: > > My reason for complaining here is not just about the java.time types > themselves, but to argue that this is an important 4th bucket we should be > concerned about. In some ways it is a bigger problem that Bucket #3 "no good > defaul

Revisiting default values

2020-07-10 Thread Dan Smith
Brian pointed out that my list of candidate inline classes in the Identity Warnings JEP (JDK-8249100) includes a number of classes that, despite being "value-based classes" and disavowing their identity, might not end up as inline classes. The problem? Default values. This might be a good time

Re: Clarification needed about primitive wrappers?

2020-07-10 Thread Dan Smith
> On Jul 10, 2020, at 6:53 AM, Remi Forax wrote: > > From valhalla-spec-observers, > > - Mail original - >> De: "Gernot Neppert" >> À: "Valhalla Expert Group Observers" >> >> Envoyé: Vendredi 10 Juillet 2020 12:06:32 >> Objet: Clarification needed about primitive wrappers? > >> Hel

Re: Clarification needed about primitive wrappers?

2020-07-10 Thread Brian Goetz
The reality is we are evolving our perspective as we gain experience with the model. Once we prove out that we have something that actually works, There will be a round of updating the terminology. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 10, 2020, at 8:54 AM, Remi Forax wrote: > > From valhalla-spec-o

Re: Clarification needed about primitive wrappers?

2020-07-10 Thread Remi Forax
>From valhalla-spec-observers, - Mail original - > De: "Gernot Neppert" > À: "Valhalla Expert Group Observers" > > Envoyé: Vendredi 10 Juillet 2020 12:06:32 > Objet: Clarification needed about primitive wrappers? > Hello, > > it seems some clarification is needed about the fate of the