- Original Message -
> From: "John Rose"
> To: "daniel smith"
> Cc: "Remi Forax" , "valhalla-spec-experts"
>
> Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 4:53:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Updated State of Valhalla documents
>> On Jan 5, 202
> On Jan 5, 2022, at 4:45 PM, Dan Smith wrote:
>
> Not talking about the VM. I'm talking about the language model.
>
>> A primitive (B3) does not provide proper encapsulation unlike a classical
>> Java class (the one spelt "class" in the language),
>
> You should say "object" here, not
> On Jan 5, 2022, at 5:14 PM, fo...@univ-mlv.fr wrote:
>
>> But: it's really important to understand that, in the proposed model,
>> primitive
>> values, identity objects, and value objects *all* belong to classes.
>
> yes,
> for the VM, a lambda, a record or an enum are all classes, even if in
- Original Message -
> From: "daniel smith"
> To: "Remi Forax"
> Cc: "valhalla-spec-experts"
> Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 12:37:09 AM
> Subject: Re: Updated State of Valhalla documents
>> On Dec 23, 2021, at 12:58 PM, fo...@un
> On Dec 23, 2021, at 12:58 PM, fo...@univ-mlv.fr wrote:
>
> But for Java, i would argue that the model is more
> we have either reference objects or primitives, for reference objects you
> have those with identity and those without identity,
> hence "primitive" being a top-level kind while
> From: "John Rose"
> To: "Remi Forax"
> Cc: "Brian Goetz" , "valhalla-spec-experts"
>
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 8:43:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Updated State of Valhalla documents
> On 23 Dec 2021, at 11
On 23 Dec 2021, at 11:26, fo...@univ-mlv.fr wrote:
For "value", we know that we want value class and value record, so
it's more like a modifier.
For primitive, do we want a primitive record ? The VM supports it, but
do we want to offer that possibility in Java ?
My gut feeling is that the
> From: "John Rose"
> To: "Remi Forax"
> Cc: "Brian Goetz" , "valhalla-spec-experts"
>
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 7:51:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Updated State of Valhalla documents
>> On Dec 23, 2021, at 10:35 AM, Remi Forax
On Dec 23, 2021, at 10:35 AM, Remi Forax wrote:
From: "Brian Goetz"
To: "valhalla-spec-experts"
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 6:14:43 PM
Subject: Updated State of Valhalla documents
Just in time for Christmas, the latest State of V
> From: "Brian Goetz"
> To: "valhalla-spec-experts"
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 6:14:43 PM
> Subject: Updated State of Valhalla documents
> Just in time for Christmas, the latest State of Valhalla is available!
> [
> https://openjdk.java
Just in time for Christmas, the latest State of Valhalla is available!
https://openjdk.java.net/projects/valhalla/design-notes/state-of-valhalla/01-background
https://openjdk.java.net/projects/valhalla/design-notes/state-of-valhalla/02-object-model
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