Re: Default behaviour with regards to Cache-Control

2009-02-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message loom.20090211t115351-...@post.gmane.org, Ole Laursen writes: Why doesn't Varnish respect Cache-Control: private and Cache-Control: no-cache out of the box? Because we see those as headers you want non-friendly caches to act on, whereas we consider Varnish a friendly cache, under your

Re: Default behaviour with regards to Cache-Control

2009-02-12 Thread Ole Laursen
Poul-Henning Kamp p...@... writes: In message loom.20090211t115351-...@..., Ole Laursen writes: Why doesn't Varnish respect Cache-Control: private and Cache-Control: no-cache out of the box? Because we see those as headers you want non-friendly caches to act on, whereas we consider

Re: Default behaviour with regards to Cache-Control

2009-02-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message loom.20090212t090929-...@post.gmane.org, Ole Laursen writes: Poul-Henning Kamp p...@... writes: I looked up private here http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html and it says Indicates that all or part of the response message is intended for a single user and

Re: Default behaviour with regards to Cache-Control

2009-02-12 Thread Ole Laursen
Poul-Henning Kamp p...@... writes: We don't consider varnish a shared cache in the RFC2616 sense of the concept, because the varnish instance is fully under the control of the servers administrator, and should therefore be considered part of the server. As I read that part of the RFC, shared

Re: Default behaviour with regards to Cache-Control

2009-02-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message loom.20090212t102450-...@post.gmane.org, Ole Laursen writes: Poul-Henning Kamp p...@... writes: We don't consider varnish a shared cache in the RFC2616 sense of the concept, because the varnish instance is fully under the control of the servers administrator, and should therefore be

Re: Default behaviour with regards to Cache-Control

2009-02-12 Thread Ole Laursen
Poul-Henning Kamp p...@... writes: If you look *really* carefully through the RFC2616, you will find one reference to server side caches -- which they forgot to remove. I get your point (the RFC doesn't apply to Varnish). It wasn't my intention to slam Varnish for standards violation, though,

Re: ESI include: src, alt, onerror weirdness

2009-02-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Florian Gilcher | So, I am beginning to wonder on how esi:include is implemented in | varnish or what I am doing wrong. Because - granted - the ESI | specification could be interpreted to include the element without | giving much thought on what the returned entity actually represents.

Re: running varnish-2.0.2 on Sun

2009-02-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Rob Ayres | Does anyone have an idea what has caused this? Not really, no. I'm going to get a buildbot slave going on Solaris so we'll hopefully be able to avoid such bugs in the future. If you have found a solution, patches are more than welcome. -- Tollef Fog Heen Redpill Linpro --

Re: Varnish and mp3 streaming on demand

2009-02-12 Thread Ole Laursen
Andreas Fassl afa...@... writes: after reading the docs it looks like I need an apache server to serve the cached mp3 content for streaming on demand. Any experience in configuration of this setup? No, but I have set up a site with videos streamed with a Flash widget. We let the video files

Re: Default behaviour with regards to Cache-Control

2009-02-12 Thread Michael S. Fischer
On Feb 12, 2009, at 3:34 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Well, if people in general think our defaults should be that way, we can change them, our defaults are whatever the consensus can agree on. I'm with the OP. Regardless of the finer details of the RFC, if I'm a web developer and I set the

Re: Varnish and mp3 streaming on demand

2009-02-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 49945b51.90...@progis.de, Andreas Fassl writes: Hi, especially the caching is very important for us, because we want to keep traffic away from the mp3 repository server. So you recommend: Client requests streaming on demand mp3 - lighthttpd does streaming and requests from - varnish