Re: 2.1 plans

2009-01-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ingvar Hagelund 

| * Tollef Fog Heen
|  a short while before Christmas, I wrote up a small document pointing to
|  what I would like to get into 2.1 (...)
|  Varnish 2.1 release plan
|  (...)
| 
| Will 2.1 be backwards compatible with vcl and configuration settings
| from 2.0?
|
| ie, will I be able to just upgrade a binary pre-built package and
| restart the server?

Yes, I don't see any need to break backwards compatibility for 2.1.

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Re: 2.1 plans

2009-01-09 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Michael S. Fischer 

| What about CARP-like cache routing (i.e., where multiple cache servers
| themselves are hash buckets)?  This would go a LONG way towards
| scalability.

http://varnish.projects.linpro.no/wiki/PostTwoShoppingList second item
sounds like what you want?

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Re: 2.1 plans

2009-01-09 Thread Michael S. Fischer
On Jan 9, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:

 | What about CARP-like cache routing (i.e., where multiple cache  
 servers
 | themselves are hash buckets)?  This would go a LONG way towards
 | scalability.

 http://varnish.projects.linpro.no/wiki/PostTwoShoppingList second item
 sounds like what you want?

Yup, sounds like what I proposed about a year ago :-)

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Re: 2.1 plans

2009-01-08 Thread Michael S. Fischer
What about CARP-like cache routing (i.e., where multiple cache servers  
themselves are hash buckets)?  This would go a LONG way towards  
scalability.

--Michael

On Jan 8, 2009, at 2:29 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:


 Hi,

 a short while before Christmas, I wrote up a small document pointing  
 to
 what I would like to get into 2.1 and when I'd like milestones to
 happen.  This is a suggestion, I'm open to ideas and comments on both
 feature set as well as if my guesstimates for dates is completely off:

 Varnish 2.1 release plan

 The theme for Varnish 2.1 is scalability, particularly trying to
 address the needs of sites like finn.no which has a lot of objects and
 where priming the cache takes a long time, leading to long periods of
 higher load on the backend servers.

 The main feature is persistent storage, see
 http://varnish.projects.linpro.no/wiki/ArchitecturePersistentStorage
 for design notes. Another important scalability feature is a new
 lockless hash algorithm which scales much better than the current
 one.  Poul-Henning already has an implementation of this in the tree,
 but it's still fresh.

 Minor features which would be nice to get in are:

 * Web UI, showing pretty graphs as well as allowing easy configuration
  of a cluster of Varnish machines.

 * Expiry randomisation.  This reduces the lemmings effect where you
  end up with a many objects with almost the same TTL (typically on
  startup) which then expire at the same time.  The feature will allow
  you to set the TTL to plus/minus X %.

 * Dynamic, user-defined counters that can be read and written from VCL

 * Forced purges, where a thread walks the list of purged objects and
  removes them.

 The schedule
 

 Alphas:
 - 2009-01-15: New hash algorithm working
 - 2009-02-15: Web UI
 - 2009-03-15: Persistent storage
 Beta:
 - 2009-04-01: Feature complete
 Release
 - 2009-05-20: Release candidate
 - 2009-05-01: No release critical bugs left
 - 2009-05-10: Release

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Re: 2.1 plans

2009-01-08 Thread Per Buer
Jeff Anderson wrote:
 I'd like to see individual object request statistics and a method to  
 prefetch objects from the backend that are most frequently requested.   
 Perhaps also a way to prioritize objects into cache tiers based on  
 frequency of requests.  So, for example, highly requested objects are  
 maintained in RAM and less frequently requested objects are cached to  
 disk.  

Your operating system already does this today with Varnish. Squid tries
to maintain a two tier cache hierarchy without success.

 If persistent storage is on its way maybe a method to assign  
 priority to large disk cache volumes versus memory regions.

Noted.

 It might  be nice to have a distributed and/or tiered cache model where a 
 single  
 master has a very large cache and potentially very long grace ability  
 where objects can exist even if stale.  That master in turn could host  
 frontend caches that communicate  efficiently to the master cache and  
 also have a tiered internal object priority.

I believe most of this can be achieved today. Stale objects will
hopefully reach the 2.0 series before the 2.1 revolutions - at least as
a patch, I hope.

 
 Thanks,
 --Jeff
 
 
 On Jan 8, 2009, at 2:29 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
 
 Hi,

 a short while before Christmas, I wrote up a small document pointing  
 to
 what I would like to get into 2.1 and when I'd like milestones to
 happen.  This is a suggestion, I'm open to ideas and comments on both
 feature set as well as if my guesstimates for dates is completely off:

 Varnish 2.1 release plan

 The theme for Varnish 2.1 is scalability, particularly trying to
 address the needs of sites like finn.no which has a lot of objects and
 where priming the cache takes a long time, leading to long periods of
 higher load on the backend servers.

 The main feature is persistent storage, see
 http://varnish.projects.linpro.no/wiki/ArchitecturePersistentStorage
 for design notes. Another important scalability feature is a new
 lockless hash algorithm which scales much better than the current
 one.  Poul-Henning already has an implementation of this in the tree,
 but it's still fresh.

 Minor features which would be nice to get in are:

 * Web UI, showing pretty graphs as well as allowing easy configuration
  of a cluster of Varnish machines.

 * Expiry randomisation.  This reduces the lemmings effect where you
  end up with a many objects with almost the same TTL (typically on
  startup) which then expire at the same time.  The feature will allow
  you to set the TTL to plus/minus X %.

 * Dynamic, user-defined counters that can be read and written from VCL

 * Forced purges, where a thread walks the list of purged objects and
  removes them.

 The schedule
 

 Alphas:
 - 2009-01-15: New hash algorithm working
 - 2009-02-15: Web UI
 - 2009-03-15: Persistent storage
 Beta:
 - 2009-04-01: Feature complete
 Release
 - 2009-05-20: Release candidate
 - 2009-05-01: No release critical bugs left
 - 2009-05-10: Release

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