Re: What's the current consensus on vpopmail + OpenLDAP + qmail-ldap?
Hi Gabriel, --- Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Adam, Saturday, September 29, 2001, 11:50:28 PM, you wrote: For what I'm trying to do I do need virtual domains and accounts. I already use qmail + vpopmail in this way, but I'd like to use LDAP as the back end database for user management, virtual domains management, etc. Is this possible without writing new code at present? I don't think so. MySQL is in place, though. Ah well... I know it is off topic, but I'd really be interested what advantages you (and anyone else) see in running LDAP for email accounts (and the rest of the vhosting stuff, for that matter) compared to saving the stuff in a simple SQL setup. To me, SQL appears to be much easier to setup and maintain, especially as most vhost setups got MySQL up and running anyhow, but OpenLDAP is a beast that won't do what you want without some good amount of work... Comments? I think that OpenLDAP 1.x suffers from not insisting on data schemas (it runs with schema checking off by default!). Not only that I am having trouble getting OpenLDAP to log to syslog 8(. This makes it easy to build useless directories. OpenLDAP 2.x (LDAPv3) directories must have schemas. This enforces structure as you cannot put data in ad hoc. IMO a relational database is not best suited for what is essentially just an address book. A directory is better suited. LDAP is optimised for reads, since the operations in a directory are mainly read. The nature of the data are not particularly relational either (witness the simplicity of the RDB schema in the SQL-based tools). LDAP has built-in replication clustering, something that can be taken advantage of with in qmail-ldap. The memory footprint of slapd 1.12.11 is 1MB on my FreeBSD box, while mysqld weighs in at 25MB. I am not criticising RDBs by the way. But IMO they are best suited to dealing with relational data. I do like the tool (I forget it's name), that stores e-mail in a database. This seems to be a space efficient manner to store e-mail that is cc:d to an entire organisation, since only one copy of each e-mail need be stored. I wouldn't advocate storing actual e-mail data in an LDAP store! However, I would be reluctant to run my mail queue from a RDB. Having said all that, I have not investigated the loading characteristics of OpenLDAP 1 or 2. A poster to the qmail-ldap list warned me off OpenLDAP 2, for example, because of instability under load. I was hoping to run everything under LDAP because I did not want to run (and have to maintain) LDAP + some flavour of sqld. And the data I am dealing with (user details, aliases, virtual domains and members, etc.) are best suited to a directory. I have some more thinking to do! Adam. Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: Help on vqadmin
harindra patel writes: Hi Mr. Remo, We have vqadmin 1.6 creating this problem. I dont see any file named user.c in vqadmin directory. Kindly eloborate on this issue. regards, Hardik. --- Remo Mattei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chirag writes: Dear All, Pl. help us on our VPOPMAIL issues as below. We r trying to setup the vqadmin on our qmailserver running on redhat-7.1. We r finding the error as Authentication failed:Authentication failed:Username unknown. We have our .htaccess file permissions as: -rw apache vchkpw .htaccess Also the .acl file USERNAME PERMISSIONS GROUP with all other lines commented. Still the error persists. If u have the solution to this problem, please letus know. Ur early reply is appreciable. regards, Hardik. I have set that up and works fine. Check the documentation and follow it you will have a working vqadmin, btw, there is a little bug in vqadmin 1.18 in the add user option it comes out with a page saying hello, you can comment that line out and it will work fine. it's on user.c about line 96. Remo Mattei Sn. Network Engineer Webpipe.net 801-498-7473 Do You Yahoo!? Send a newsletter, share photos files, conduct polls, organize chat events. Visit http://in.groups.yahoo.com Ok it's only on the vqadmin 1.18 which is the devel package you can find it a inter7.com/devel download modify the file read the instruction and you will be fine here is my settings: drwxr-xr-x3 vpopmail vchkpw6 Sep 18 15:08 vqadmin -rw---1 www www 114 Sep 18 15:08 .htaccess www is the group that controls the apache server. Remo Mattei Sn. Network Engineer Webpipe.net 801-498-7473
directories
I am use vpopmail 4.10.32 When i insert user-line in mysql database and try to send him an mail message. In older version vpopmail automaticaly creates user directory if it doesn't exists but in this version in says delivery 1687: failure: can_not_open_new_email_file_errno=2_file=/home/vpopmail/domains/test.com/test1/Maildir/tmp/1001755094.24337.katerina.host-sites.com,S=563/. How can i fix it ? -- Best regards, sec mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: directories
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello sec, Saturday, September 29, 2001, 11:23:19 AM, you wrote: I am use vpopmail 4.10.32 When i insert user-line in mysql database and try to send him an mail message. In older version vpopmail automaticaly creates user directory if it doesn't exists but in this version in says delivery 1687: failure: can_not_open_new_email_file_errno=2_file=/home/vpopmail/domains/test .com/test1/Maildir/tmp/1001755094.24337.katerina.host-sites.com,S=56 3/. How can i fix it ? I think this has been fixed in the newest development version. Best regards, Gabriel J -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQEVAwUBO7WVlMZa2WpymlDxAQEpTAgAgaaX7vHPyeropS3uxn3WZJ5PydxNCgif J0CVsTe77Z1k1lNrDlJSiVLsD8APnQTnqZqPU7Za+Ig4H0NdpzuAHX8szIL2urId aicSSSRHQRYzGQu/Vq10eTXZ9LZuF+UkTzZwE+iDQcWVuGsmplJtPOj/oYTepkFS aL4zyMDKhk60/LK+f8jxFl3AWA/HHMpAn++6qvTN7JWBdVHXh1ZuHf58W0NLV5c9 dYeqmgi2kNawBdPoZHSq3Y+/9XC/30IQIN4IrtzW0f1+Ur9sEe+M7+saTBqMO8Y2 2u/+hXGj4vDx7cDrFoOWqPEFhR/95+wS2bgRLR5tGoqXJ6FTbJVhgw== =NnGi -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re[3]: directories
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello sec, Saturday, September 29, 2001, 12:39:18 PM, you wrote: Hello Gabriel, Saturday, September 29, 2001, 2:34:09 PM, you wrote: GA -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- GA Hello sec, GA Saturday, September 29, 2001, 11:23:19 AM, you wrote: I am use vpopmail 4.10.32 When i insert user-line in mysql database and try to send him an mail message. In older version vpopmail automaticaly creates user directory if it doesn't exists but in this version in says delivery 1687: failure: can_not_open_new_email_file_errno=2_file=/home/vpopmail/domains/te st .com/test1/Maildir/tmp/1001755094.24337.katerina.host-sites.com,S= 56 3/. How can i fix it ? GA I think this has been fixed in the newest development version. hm.. Is there any patch for this ? Why not just download the newest release? Fixes a couple of other bugs too. Best regards, Gabriel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQEVAwUBO7WwB8Za2WpymlDxAQFR5AgA0GFBEjirGnqVr9umXxl4n5pWGHoi/93p puZiU2HE3yuPMZW35NRCTZjm0GJU2JlkbexKg8iu/Y6EpMGG9sCsH5PRSWgY428S I4L9RaGNK58jykvU0bNZtAXrJzTf1eG5GvCdjh/0TK1//89g05J9/vlneeeGVCtt T5HeOcSnmS3IwJ70oox+dNOCcaQ7wOLDo1xy45MnbMPD8BfTPmjlA/ptG3rnh4TG HEgiT3QX7NosCIqLoWpolg6oKP/LaHhvlFHFFHNjnSuKR1G3l40RrGYF42FoLm+p 2lZKYwBf6eQJovXLHEdEZgYXiemWtx//qip2JuY1ZHQYUC/k/3Aeyw== =400E -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Help on vqadmin
Chirag writes: Dear All, Pl. help us on our VPOPMAIL issues as below. We r trying to setup the vqadmin on our qmailserver running on redhat-7.1. We r finding the error as Authentication failed:Authentication failed:Username unknown. We have our .htaccess file permissions as: -rw apache vchkpw .htaccess Also the .acl file USERNAME PERMISSIONS GROUP with all other lines commented. Still the error persists. If u have the solution to this problem, please letus know. Ur early reply is appreciable. regards, Hardik. I have set that up and works fine. Check the documentation and follow it you will have a working vqadmin, btw, there is a little bug in vqadmin 1.18 in the add user option it comes out with a page saying hello, you can comment that line out and it will work fine. it's on user.c about line 96. Remo Mattei Sn. Network Engineer Webpipe.net 801-498-7473
4.9 - 4.9.10 / dir_controll table
hi list, i am moving a large vpopmail site to a new server. so far i used vpopmail 4.9 - now i am upgrading to 4.9.10. authentication is done with mysql. the vpopmail 4.9.10 installation has a mysql table called dir_controll. what is it used for ? how can i create this table for my existing user db ? i planed to copy the db to the new server, but now i am missing this table ! thanks for your help Patrik
Re: Help on vqadmin
Hi Mr. Remo, We have vqadmin 1.6 creating this problem. I dont see any file named user.c in vqadmin directory. Kindly eloborate on this issue. regards, Hardik. --- Remo Mattei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chirag writes: Dear All, Pl. help us on our VPOPMAIL issues as below. We r trying to setup the vqadmin on our qmailserver running on redhat-7.1. We r finding the error as Authentication failed:Authentication failed:Username unknown. We have our .htaccess file permissions as: -rw apache vchkpw .htaccess Also the .acl file USERNAME PERMISSIONS GROUP with all other lines commented. Still the error persists. If u have the solution to this problem, please letus know. Ur early reply is appreciable. regards, Hardik. I have set that up and works fine. Check the documentation and follow it you will have a working vqadmin, btw, there is a little bug in vqadmin 1.18 in the add user option it comes out with a page saying hello, you can comment that line out and it will work fine. it's on user.c about line 96. Remo Mattei Sn. Network Engineer Webpipe.net 801-498-7473 Do You Yahoo!? Send a newsletter, share photos files, conduct polls, organize chat events. Visit http://in.groups.yahoo.com
enabling successful logging
Hello, i noticed that, by default, vpopmail enable only errors logging; to enable both successful and wrong pop3 accesses, i have to recompile the whole source. Is there a way to enable it without recompiling? If i have to recompile because it is not possible to do it without recompiling, are there erasing problems for virtual domains alreay working? Thank you in advance for your interest! Bye, Francesco Collini
ADV: I bet that I make more money in the Web design business than you do. Time:11:54:47 AM
I bet that I make more money in the Web design business than you do. From the customers I received last month I made $1560 income. I also profited on these people $1000 up front. And you know the funniest part? I didn't even design their sites! They did it for themselves! I bet your sales pitch doesn't come anywhere near mine. My sales pitch looks like this: Free Website! Free .com, .net, or .org name! Free First Month! Free Shopping Cart for E-commerce! Free Secure Credit Card Transaction Server Access! Free Website Editor! (Allows you to control your entire site from anywhere in the world with nothing more than your Internet browser!) Free Website Statistics Analysis! Unlimited everything! Unlimited Email Addresses! Unlimited Hosting Space! Unlimited Bandwidth! Unlimited Pages! Unlimited Capacity of items in the Shopping Cart! Fastest Websites!!! (Hosted on the best servers and bandwidth anywhere!) Website Promotion Options... There is nothing left to add to this service! If you can use a word processor, You can manage your own website! Only $35/month after your first FREE month! Everything you need to be doing business online NOW is here for only $25! (Limited time offer) I have been advertising this pitch on the front of my website for my design business 1 month, I have received over 40 signups. People SIGNUP EVERY SINGLE DAY. Almost, they bunch up on the weekends often. 1 month= $1560 income that comes in every month with no work! I will beat that number this month easily, but assuming I just keep up the same pace, next month will net $3,120 PROFIT. FOR A FACT I will be netting at least $10,720 a month by the end of the year. I got that number after subtracting $8000 to account for cancellations down the line. That is a ton of money! I can not even think of a way to not hit that number unless I completely stopped doing everything. My service is also better. You can't give anyone the as much value as I can. You can't give them the power to control their site as I can. You can't give them the prices that I can. You can't get them online as fast as I can. And even if somehow you found a way to do all that, you won't able to keep your customers as long as I do. Wow. Don't believe me? The interface I give my customers is easier to use than any other I have seen. It is by far the best web based interface you will ever see. A monkey would have a hard time making a site look bad with the software I include for my Customers. I charge them $35 a month and I only pay $10! I know I could charge a lot more for the service, but I am more interested in getting as many customers as possible now, than I am on making more on them. If you did the numbers to make sure I wasn't making them up, you'll see $560 missing this month. Where did it come from? There is an optional search engine submission program, that 70 percent of the people that signup opt for, I charge them $30/month. I pay $10. If they do decide they would like custom work done, no problem. I do it for them, and they don't try to bother me to change little things all the time on their site, because I give them the power to do it themselves, which they prefer. I like it to, keeps my time free for things I enjoy. In addition to being able to get at customers you can't, and being able to upsell them to all the custom design work I like, when ever I like, I bet I have a whole bunch of other things you DO NOT HAVE. Private Labeled to me Website Builder/Store Builder (Best Anywhere) Private Labeled to me Shopping Cart Private Labeled to me WebMail and Pop3 Service Private Labeled to me Secure Server Hosting Private Labeled to me Domain Name Registration Private Labeled to me Search Engine Submission Private Labeled to me Control Panel for FTP, email, user access... I can make as many new templates as I like to start them out from too. I also never have to pay for custom CGI work to provide E-Commerce solutions anymore. It is all done for me already, even the payment gateway integration. I use the same service my end-users use to do design work and It has cut my design time in more than half. I can make a complete E-Commerce enabled site in 15-30 minutes, email, shopping cart, ftp, running on the net! Can you do that?? Long story short. Unless you have some plans I don't know about, My business will be beating yours for sure in about 12 months. Can you compete? Are you getting customers as fast as I am? Are you making as much on them as I am? Is that money you are making staying with you every month? Is there a way for you to provide my customers something I don't? Can you say the same for yourself? I am going to let you in on SECRET now. Even though I know that my business will most likely be making a lot more than yours in 12 months, I am not greedy. I know that BIG money is not in being greedy. I know that No matter how much money my design company makes next year, If I combined
strange ip after authorisation
hi.. i was some people using my mailserver, that they can't send mail anymore. as i have enabled authlogging in vpopmail i took a look into the lastauth table (yes, --enable-mysql) and was stunned that some people seem to have authed from 0.0.0.0 it says, e.g userdomainremote_ip timestamp postmaster test.com 0.0.0.0 1001705400 on the other hand, i never had this problem, and other's didn't too.. (real ip listed in remote_ip) so, does anybody has a clue why vpopmail doesn't get the ip right and sometimes does get it ? (oh.. and this was 4.10.29 ) Best Regards, Justin
What's the current consensus on vpopmail + OpenLDAP + qmail-ldap?
Hi! New to the list. Like a good newbie I searched the archives before posting and saw this post. http://www.mail-archive.com/vchkpw%40inter7.com/msg04733.html And later some others... I had been blithely assuming that qmail-ldap + vpopmail + OpenLDAP work together. It was only after extensive RTFMing this afternoon and evening that it started to seem to me that the LDAP support for these isn't integrated. For what I'm trying to do I do need virtual domains and accounts. I already use qmail + vpopmail in this way, but I'd like to use LDAP as the backend database for user management, virtual domains management, etc. Is this possible without writing new code at present? Cheers, Adam. Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: What's the current consensus on vpopmail + OpenLDAP + qmail-ldap?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Adam, Saturday, September 29, 2001, 11:50:28 PM, you wrote: For what I'm trying to do I do need virtual domains and accounts. I already use qmail + vpopmail in this way, but I'd like to use LDAP as the backend database for user management, virtual domains management, etc. Is this possible without writing new code at present? I don't think so. MySQL is in place, though. I know it is off topic, but I'd really be interested what advantages you (and anyone else) see in running LDAP for email accounts (and the rest of the vhosting stuff, for that matter) compared to saving the stuff in a simple SQL setup. To me, SQL appears to be much easier to setup and maintain, especially as most vhost setups got MySQL up and running anyhow, but OpenLDAP is a beast that won't do what you want without some good amount of work... Comments? Best regards, Gabriel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQEVAwUBO7ZBiMZa2WpymlDxAQGGcAgAtIEvlQG3lM2fdijx4JLejNG9zEOpn0Lp 45N588vcbc+7u13+VZmpPEfhPgzXIrILo+Ru3fcQtRd4WsJTsa7R4cExNmdqzug8 qarODIX0q/LmRPUQI10T9ZfBGkNSqvJtCmb+TwgBbqFDOETmuYlozvOs8372Ceff lz5HoJXHlz2PA6Nsdabcdl1EI3vXwPOfof/laTRT/Y6OvIG/nr64ye+T6Adha9/o FJVNk/yTjtBJ6a2CDYrbBgd6B24TKm1Y3KJ9K229pOjVzpEbKWnLTmGforz/6wM0 Zbw3smCpNmw+wrARpVWVCU0gQGh/yYPhTLM6UwajDOQNDLxu8Of4qg== =wL/a -END PGP SIGNATURE-
